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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

Started byRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
First post2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
Last post2018-12-07 09:49 +0000
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  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:46 +0000
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 10:00 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 17:22 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 11:09 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:40 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:22 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 21:52 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 14:01 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-01 09:58 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 11:23 -0400
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 09:13 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 14:44 -0400
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 11:58 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 15:57 -0400
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 13:14 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 14:45 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 19:51 -0400
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 22:33 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-31 20:37 +0200
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:15 -0700
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 12:52 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:50 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 16:27 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-01 00:51 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:21 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:48 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:18 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 03:51 -0700
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:41 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Fattore Nzavecchia <avcir@valecw.ba> - 2018-09-01 12:46 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:31 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 06:33 -0700
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:37 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 11:32 -0700
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:54 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:44 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:02 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 16:01 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:08 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 04:30 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 05:24 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 05:30 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 06:16 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Jeanclaude Erald <urdu@iufienv.vu> - 2018-09-02 12:36 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:47 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:29 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:37 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 20:46 +0000
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 19:31 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 21:33 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 03:37 -0700
                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 05:39 -0700
                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 10:40 -0700
                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 18:21 -0700
                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 19:22 -0700
                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 19:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 20:12 -0700
                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 20:26 -0700
                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-04 03:29 -0700
                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 14:50 +0000
                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 23:38 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 00:33 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:34 +0000
                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 08:39 -0700
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 15:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:46 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 14:38 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:00 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 19:06 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 21:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:03 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:10 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:36 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 22:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:54 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 02:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 20:57 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 05:07 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 07:35 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 10:34 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-06 15:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 13:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:59 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:22 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:45 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:01 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 00:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:57 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 17:34 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 00:45 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:54 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 01:04 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:06 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:29 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:43 +0000
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 16:06 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 17:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:21 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:48 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:57 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 22:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:04 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:47 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:22 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-07 05:30 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:59 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:16 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 22:25 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 00:39 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:58 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:20 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:55 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 16:13 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:55 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:19 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 14:47 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:25 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 16:06 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:41 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 20:51 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:49 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 07:41 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 18:53 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 10:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:36 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-08 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 12:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 13:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 10:28 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 13:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 04:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-09 11:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 12:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 21:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 04:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-10 05:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 08:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 08:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 03:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 12:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:28 -0700
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#471711

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 22:35 +0000
Message-ID<pneomn$15v3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471705
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 12:18:16 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 6:04:57 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, but I am not your slave.  I answered your question, and you did not
>>>>> like my answer.  Why don't you go talk to some of these nice scientists
>>>>> who are discussing the length contraction?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well, Robert, because I think it performs some kind of service to those
>>>> future generations you imagine reading this conversation. I’m helping you
>>>> illustrate that you don’t know enough about relativity, Galilean or
>>>> otherwise, to discuss it intelligently. 
>>>> 
>>>> Plus, as you say, it’s politeness to respond to someone when they say
>>>> something, and I’d like to remain polite. 
>>>> 
>>> I think it is wonderful that you are polite, but you never say anything. 
>>> I stated that your mathematics has the circumference of the earth
>>> changing every time an airplane flies overhead.  
>> 
>> I did respond to this. You did not read my response. I told you that the
>> value of the circumference of the earth varies with observer. So it is a
>> little different for someone in the plane than it is for someone on the
>> ground. You replied that you looked up a number on the internet — 24,701
>> miles — though you have no idea how that number was arrived at, and as far
>> as you’re concerned this is the one number true for all observers. Except
>> that it is not true, according to measurements that have nothing to do with
>> a high school circumference formula. You asked for measurement details. I
>> gave you a link with lots of measurement details, which you declined to
>> click on in a momentary passive-aggressive fit. 
>> 
>> So no, you are not discussing relativity intelligently. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> You come back with this irrelevant problem about the rotation of the
>>> earth, which I answered.  Now you claim I am not discussing relativity
>>> intelligently.  So once again, why don't you go talk to some of these
>>> nice scientists who are discussing the length contraction?  You think
>>> they are intelligent.  
> 
> I am discussing relativity intelligently.  The circumference of the earth
> is the same from the airplane as from the earth.  That is what the
> Galilean transformation equations show.  
> 

The Galilean equations don’t show anything about the circumference if the
earth. They may hypothesize something about the circumference if the earth.
But measurements actually decide the matter. Once again, equations do not
determine truth. Measurements do. 

Now you may choose to believe that equations determine truth, and in this
case you then have an arbitrary choice of which equations you want to eeny
-meeny to set that truth for yourself, but this isn’t going to be
interesting or compelling to anyone else and certainly is not the
scientific way to determine truth. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#471719

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 15:48 -0700
Message-ID<8a0ab575-8333-4d8a-8ef1-eb76b64542c7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471711
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 3:35:08 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> > 
> > I am discussing relativity intelligently.  The circumference of the earth
> > is the same from the airplane as from the earth.  That is what the
> > Galilean transformation equations show.  
> > 
> 
> The Galilean equations don’t show anything about the circumference if the
> earth. They may hypothesize something about the circumference if the earth.
> But measurements actually decide the matter. Once again, equations do not
> determine truth. Measurements do. 
> 
> Now you may choose to believe that equations determine truth, and in this
> case you then have an arbitrary choice of which equations you want to eeny
> -meeny to set that truth for yourself, but this isn’t going to be
> interesting or compelling to anyone else and certainly is not the
> scientific way to determine truth. 
> 
Look, if you want to believe that the circumference of the earth changes every time that an airplane flies over, go ahead and believe it.  I use the Galilean transformation equations, which do not have a length contraction.  Therefore, I do not have to believe your nonsense.  You have never seen anyone measure the equator, so you are just pretending that you know something.  

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#471723

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-13 23:15 +0000
Message-ID<pner2g$88g$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#471719
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 3:35:08 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:

>> > I am discussing relativity intelligently.  The circumference of the earth
>> > is the same from the airplane as from the earth.  That is what the
>> > Galilean transformation equations show.

>> The Galilean equations don't show anything about the circumference if the
>> earth. They may hypothesize something about the circumference if the earth.
>> But measurements actually decide the matter. Once again, equations do not
>> determine truth. Measurements do.

>> Now you may choose to believe that equations determine truth, and in this
>> case you then have an arbitrary choice of which equations you want to eeny
>> -meeny to set that truth for yourself, but this isn't going to be
>> interesting or compelling to anyone else and certainly is not the
>> scientific way to determine truth.

>Look, if you want to believe that the circumference of the earth changes 
>every time that an airplane flies over, go ahead and believe it.
>  I use the Galilean transformation equations, which do not have a 
>length contraction.

It's apparent that you can't think these things through that well.
Not a good advertisement that the Galilean equations must be correct,
even if they aren't relevant in this situation.

If the earth's circumference is exactly 24,701 miles at the equator,
how far will an airplane flying at 31,680 feet (exactly 6 miles) have
to fly, to circle the earth exactly once at the equator?

Hint: 24,701 miles is at sea level.

>Therefore, I do not have to believe your nonsense.  You have never seen 
>anyone measure the equator, so you are just pretending that you know 
>something.

I have been at the equator, does that count?

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#471731

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 16:59 -0700
Message-ID<a0194948-0779-4812-8abd-67e017e88669@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471723
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 4:15:30 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 3:35:08 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> >> > I am discussing relativity intelligently.  The circumference of the earth
> >> > is the same from the airplane as from the earth.  That is what the
> >> > Galilean transformation equations show.
> 
> >> The Galilean equations don't show anything about the circumference if the
> >> earth. They may hypothesize something about the circumference if the earth.
> >> But measurements actually decide the matter. Once again, equations do not
> >> determine truth. Measurements do.
> 
> >> Now you may choose to believe that equations determine truth, and in this
> >> case you then have an arbitrary choice of which equations you want to eeny
> >> -meeny to set that truth for yourself, but this isn't going to be
> >> interesting or compelling to anyone else and certainly is not the
> >> scientific way to determine truth.
> 
> >Look, if you want to believe that the circumference of the earth changes 
> >every time that an airplane flies over, go ahead and believe it.
> >  I use the Galilean transformation equations, which do not have a 
> >length contraction.
> 
> It's apparent that you can't think these things through that well.
> Not a good advertisement that the Galilean equations must be correct,
> even if they aren't relevant in this situation.
> 
> If the earth's circumference is exactly 24,701 miles at the equator,
> how far will an airplane flying at 31,680 feet (exactly 6 miles) have
> to fly, to circle the earth exactly once at the equator?
> 
> Hint: 24,701 miles is at sea level.
> 
> >Therefore, I do not have to believe your nonsense.  You have never seen 
> >anyone measure the equator, so you are just pretending that you know 
> >something.
> 
> I have been at the equator, does that count?

So was the circumference of the earth increasing or decreasing while you were there?
Here is what you do.  Take the circumference at the equator and divide it by 6.28, then add your six miles to that.  Then multiply that by 6.28, and you will have the number of miles the plane traveled.  I know this seems difficult, 
but it can be done.  There are schoolchildren in junior high who are working problems like this every day.  You can do it if you try.

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#471745

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-14 01:16 +0000
Message-ID<pnf257$1hn9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471731
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 4:15:30 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 3:35:08 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> 
>>>>> I am discussing relativity intelligently.  The circumference of the earth
>>>>> is the same from the airplane as from the earth.  That is what the
>>>>> Galilean transformation equations show.
>> 
>>>> The Galilean equations don't show anything about the circumference if the
>>>> earth. They may hypothesize something about the circumference if the earth.
>>>> But measurements actually decide the matter. Once again, equations do not
>>>> determine truth. Measurements do.
>> 
>>>> Now you may choose to believe that equations determine truth, and in this
>>>> case you then have an arbitrary choice of which equations you want to eeny
>>>> -meeny to set that truth for yourself, but this isn't going to be
>>>> interesting or compelling to anyone else and certainly is not the
>>>> scientific way to determine truth.
>> 
>>> Look, if you want to believe that the circumference of the earth changes 
>>> every time that an airplane flies over, go ahead and believe it.
>>> I use the Galilean transformation equations, which do not have a 
>>> length contraction.
>> 
>> It's apparent that you can't think these things through that well.
>> Not a good advertisement that the Galilean equations must be correct,
>> even if they aren't relevant in this situation.
>> 
>> If the earth's circumference is exactly 24,701 miles at the equator,
>> how far will an airplane flying at 31,680 feet (exactly 6 miles) have
>> to fly, to circle the earth exactly once at the equator?
>> 
>> Hint: 24,701 miles is at sea level.
>> 
>>> Therefore, I do not have to believe your nonsense.  You have never seen 
>>> anyone measure the equator, so you are just pretending that you know 
>>> something.
>> 
>> I have been at the equator, does that count?
> 
> So was the circumference of the earth increasing or decreasing while you were there?
> Here is what you do.  Take the circumference at the equator and divide it
> by 6.28, then add your six miles to that.  Then multiply that by 6.28,
> and you will have the number of miles the plane traveled.  I know this seems difficult, 
> but it can be done.  There are schoolchildren in junior high who are
> working problems like this every day.  You can do it if you try.
> 

Well of course if you followed your procedure, the plane would be landing
in a completely different place than where it took off. You figured that
out yourself eventually, remember? But then you forgot it again. The mind
slips so quietly, doesn’t it? Pretty soon you’re living in a rented trailer
with a truck you can’t legally drive, doing occasional handyman work at
cut-rate wages. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#471751

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 18:33 -0700
Message-ID<be5ba797-2e96-4948-a06b-ea29fa2bee08@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471745
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 6:16:28 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> > 
> > So was the circumference of the earth increasing or decreasing while you were there?
> > Here is what you do.  Take the circumference at the equator and divide it
> > by 6.28, then add your six miles to that.  Then multiply that by 6.28,
> > and you will have the number of miles the plane traveled.  I know this seems difficult, 
> > but it can be done.  There are schoolchildren in junior high who are
> > working problems like this every day.  You can do it if you try.
> > 
> 
> Well of course if you followed your procedure, the plane would be landing
> in a completely different place than where it took off. You figured that
> out yourself eventually, remember? But then you forgot it again. The mind
> slips so quietly, doesn’t it? Pretty soon you’re living in a rented trailer
> with a truck you can’t legally drive, doing occasional handyman work at
> cut-rate wages. 
> 
I said that the plane was taking off from Quito, Ecuador, and was going to land at Quito, Ecuador.  If you want to pretend something else, of course, you are free to do that.  People who read Harry Potter books always seem to have an idea that they think is better.  

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#471762

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-14 03:49 +0000
Message-ID<pnfb54$1t7p$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471751
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 6:16:28 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> So was the circumference of the earth increasing or decreasing while you were there?
>>> Here is what you do.  Take the circumference at the equator and divide it
>>> by 6.28, then add your six miles to that.  Then multiply that by 6.28,
>>> and you will have the number of miles the plane traveled.  I know this seems difficult, 
>>> but it can be done.  There are schoolchildren in junior high who are
>>> working problems like this every day.  You can do it if you try.
>>> 
>> 
>> Well of course if you followed your procedure, the plane would be landing
>> in a completely different place than where it took off. You figured that
>> out yourself eventually, remember? But then you forgot it again. The mind
>> slips so quietly, doesn’t it? Pretty soon you’re living in a rented trailer
>> with a truck you can’t legally drive, doing occasional handyman work at
>> cut-rate wages. 
>> 
> I said that the plane was taking off from Quito, Ecuador, and was going
> to land at Quito, Ecuador.  

Well if you’re going to do that, then you won’t have flown 24,701 miles
because Quito, Ecuador will have moved to a different place while you were
flying. This happens because Quito is attached to the ground and the ground
is moving. Thus is what causes the sun to appear to rise and set. I think
you may have heard this. 

> If you want to pretend something else, of course, you are free to do
> that.  People who read Harry Potter books always seem to have an idea
> that they think is better.  
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#471743

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-14 01:09 +0000
Message-ID<pnf1no$1h7d$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471719
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 3:35:08 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> I am discussing relativity intelligently.  The circumference of the earth
>>> is the same from the airplane as from the earth.  That is what the
>>> Galilean transformation equations show.  
>>> 
>> 
>> The Galilean equations don’t show anything about the circumference if the
>> earth. They may hypothesize something about the circumference if the earth.
>> But measurements actually decide the matter. Once again, equations do not
>> determine truth. Measurements do. 
>> 
>> Now you may choose to believe that equations determine truth, and in this
>> case you then have an arbitrary choice of which equations you want to eeny
>> -meeny to set that truth for yourself, but this isn’t going to be
>> interesting or compelling to anyone else and certainly is not the
>> scientific way to determine truth. 
>> 
> Look, if you want to believe that the circumference of the earth changes
> every time that an airplane flies over, go ahead and believe it.  

I believe what measurements say, not what some arbitrarily selected
equations say. I’ll do this just about every time. And if equations
disagree with corroborated measurements, then the equation is wrong, every
time. 

> I use the Galilean transformation equations, which do not have a length
> contraction.  Therefore, I do not have to believe your nonsense.  You
> have never seen anyone measure the equator, so you are just pretending
> that you know something.  
> 
> 

Oh but Robert, I’ve looked up the method actual people actually made to
come up with that number that you stumbled upon on the internet. You, you
couldn’t be bothered. 

And ok, so you’ve decided there are some equations you like because they
don’t feature something you don’t like. So just on the basis of what you
like and don’t like, you say these equations will represent reality for
you. That’s fine. Nobody else in their right mind would go about things
that way, but you go right ahead, as it affects no one. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#471748

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 18:25 -0700
Message-ID<f6ba6b80-1eec-404a-8c0a-0b82bcd6c7e8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471743
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 6:09:17 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 3:35:08 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > 
> >>> 
> >>> I am discussing relativity intelligently.  The circumference of the earth
> >>> is the same from the airplane as from the earth.  That is what the
> >>> Galilean transformation equations show.  
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> The Galilean equations don’t show anything about the circumference if the
> >> earth. They may hypothesize something about the circumference if the earth.
> >> But measurements actually decide the matter. Once again, equations do not
> >> determine truth. Measurements do. 
> >> 
> >> Now you may choose to believe that equations determine truth, and in this
> >> case you then have an arbitrary choice of which equations you want to eeny
> >> -meeny to set that truth for yourself, but this isn’t going to be
> >> interesting or compelling to anyone else and certainly is not the
> >> scientific way to determine truth. 
> >> 
> > Look, if you want to believe that the circumference of the earth changes
> > every time that an airplane flies over, go ahead and believe it.  
> 
> I believe what measurements say, not what some arbitrarily selected
> equations say. I’ll do this just about every time. And if equations
> disagree with corroborated measurements, then the equation is wrong, every
> time. 
> 
> > I use the Galilean transformation equations, which do not have a length
> > contraction.  Therefore, I do not have to believe your nonsense.  You
> > have never seen anyone measure the equator, so you are just pretending
> > that you know something.  
> > 
> > 
> 
> Oh but Robert, I’ve looked up the method actual people actually made to
> come up with that number that you stumbled upon on the internet. You, you
> couldn’t be bothered. 
> 
> And ok, so you’ve decided there are some equations you like because they
> don’t feature something you don’t like. So just on the basis of what you
> like and don’t like, you say these equations will represent reality for
> you. That’s fine. Nobody else in their right mind would go about things
> that way, but you go right ahead, as it affects no one. 
> 
I don't care what method actual people made to come up with that number.  If they could have done better, why don't you show them how?
As far as I am concerned, I might use 24,000 miles like I learned in grade school.  What I look for is what the equations say.  Your equations say that the circumference of the earth changes whenever an airplane passes overhead.  The Galilean transformation equations say the circumference of the earth is the same from either frame of reference.  So the Galilean transformation equations are right. 

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#471758

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2018-09-13 20:32 -0700
Message-ID<e6483f26-77be-46ab-9cc4-5b60335b84fa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471748
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:25:11 PM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
>
> As far as I am concerned, I might use 24,000 miles like I learned in
> grade school.

Well, I learned 25,000 miles, so there's length contraction right there :-)

> What I look for is what the equations say.  Your equations say that
> the circumference of the earth changes whenever an airplane passes
> overhead.

This is a straw-man assertion and is totally false.  Just goes to show
that you are a liar.

> The Galilean transformation equations say the circumference of the earth
> is the same from either frame of reference.

But your n' = n asininity says that you see the plane going 500 MPH but
the plane sees YOU going faster than that.  DUMB!

> So the Galilean transformation equations are right.

But they can't explain experiments which confirm time dilation; hence,
they are wrong.

> I said that the plane was taking off from Quito, Ecuador, and was going
> to land at Quito, Ecuador.  If you want to pretend something else, of
> course, you are free to do that.

If you want to pretend that the earth is not rotating, maybe you'd like
to join the Flat-Earth Society.

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#471769

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 21:06 -0700
Message-ID<f7213471-e0e3-419c-af0e-e03e895874d6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471758
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 8:32:15 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:25:11 PM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
> >
> > As far as I am concerned, I might use 24,000 miles like I learned in
> > grade school.
> 
> Well, I learned 25,000 miles, so there's length contraction right there :-)
> 
> > What I look for is what the equations say.  Your equations say that
> > the circumference of the earth changes whenever an airplane passes
> > overhead.
> 
> This is a straw-man assertion and is totally false.  Just goes to show
> that you are a liar.
> 
> > The Galilean transformation equations say the circumference of the earth
> > is the same from either frame of reference.
> 
> But your n' = n asininity says that you see the plane going 500 MPH but
> the plane sees YOU going faster than that.  DUMB!

Well, actually, the pilot of the plane sees the plane going faster than 500 mph.  I know how complicated this must seem to you.  It is called reality.  If you get tired of reading Harry Potter books, you might want to consider reality some time.   
> 
> > So the Galilean transformation equations are right.
> 
> But they can't explain experiments which confirm time dilation; hence,
> they are wrong.
> 

What do you mean they can't explain experiments.  If a clock is faster or slower than another clock, you use two different sets of Galilean transformation
equations.
If you want to use the time of a clock in the other set of equations, you have to convert its time to the time of the other clock.  It is not difficult.  Students in junior high work problems like this.  

> > I said that the plane was taking off from Quito, Ecuador, and was going
> > to land at Quito, Ecuador.  If you want to pretend something else, of
> > course, you are free to do that.
> 
> If you want to pretend that the earth is not rotating, maybe you'd like
> to join the Flat-Earth Society.


I don't pretend anything.  If you are circumnavigating the globe, you start and stop in the same place.  If you want to pretend that is complicated, go ahead and pretend it is complicated.  

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#471799

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2018-09-14 05:59 -0700
Message-ID<de909b39-43f5-47ed-a5ae-35c2202454b7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471769
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 10:06:29 PM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 8:32:15 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:25:11 PM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
> > >
> > > As far as I am concerned, I might use 24,000 miles like I learned in
> > > grade school.
> > 
> > Well, I learned 25,000 miles, so there's length contraction right
> > there :-)
> > 
> > > What I look for is what the equations say.  Your equations say that
> > > the circumference of the earth changes whenever an airplane passes
> > > overhead.
> > 
> > This is a straw-man assertion and is totally false.  Just goes to show
> > that you are a liar.
> > 
> > > The Galilean transformation equations say the circumference of the
> > > earth is the same from either frame of reference.
> > 
> > But your n' = n asininity says that you see the plane going 500 MPH but
> > the plane sees YOU going faster than that.  DUMB!
> 
> Well, actually, the pilot of the plane sees the plane going faster than
> 500 mph.

No, he doesn't.  You better tighten up those loose screws in your brain.

> [Condescending lies deleted]
>
> > > So the Galilean transformation equations are right.
> > 
> > But they can't explain experiments which confirm time dilation; hence,
> > they are wrong.
> > 
> 
> What do you mean they can't explain experiments.  If a clock is faster
> or slower than another clock, you use two different sets of Galilean
> transformation equations.

Only if you want to deny reality, like you stupidly did with the pilot.
You can't keep regurgitating crap without consequences.

> [Regurgitated lies deleted]  
> 
> > > I said that the plane was taking off from Quito, Ecuador, and was
> > > going to land at Quito, Ecuador.  If you want to pretend something
> > > else, of course, you are free to do that. 
> >
> > If you want to pretend that the earth is not rotating, maybe you'd like 
> > to join the Flat-Earth Society. 
>
> I don't pretend anything.

Of COURSE you do.  You pretend broken clocks actually work.  You pretend
the earth doesn't rotate.  You pretend the GT is correct and the LT is
wrong.  It's called LYING.

> If you are circumnavigating the globe, you start and stop in the same
> place.

Is your head solid bone?  If you want to pretend that the earth doesn't
rotate, go ahead and pretend it doesn't, but there are consequences to
lying.

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#471805

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-14 07:00 -0700
Message-ID<8bdd9256-ec7f-4fea-bf32-8a8c4cd6f0d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471799
On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 5:59:42 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:

> > > 
> > > But your n' = n asininity says that you see the plane going 500 MPH but
> > > the plane sees YOU going faster than that.  DUMB!
> > 
> > Well, actually, the pilot of the plane sees the plane going faster than
> > 500 mph.
> 
> No, he doesn't.  You better tighten up those loose screws in your brain.
> 
> > [Condescending lies deleted]


Wonderful to see you making some actual statements, Gary.  The problem you have is that if the clock on the plane is slower than the clock on the ground, which it is, the pilot is going to believe that the plane is going faster than 500 miles per hour.  
> >

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#471812

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-14 14:34 +0000
Message-ID<pnggtc$s5k$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#471805
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>Wonderful to see you making some actual statements, Gary.  The problem
>you have is that if the clock on the plane is slower than the clock on
>the ground, which it is, the pilot is going to believe that the plane is
>going faster than 500 miles per hour.

Why would you have the pilot fly with a broken clock? It is irresponsible
at best and could potentially be a safety issue. If the clock is broken
as you say, the airspeed reading will be garbage so the pilot may slow
the plane below the stall speed, for example.

Also, scientists investigating relativity such as the Galilean or Lorentz
transforms, or anything else for that matter, would NEVER use a broken
clock like that. It will ruin all measurements that depend on it.

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#471819

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-14 10:46 -0700
Message-ID<ce1f2bc9-5f8d-47b3-a90b-dc1807fdb703@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471812
On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 7:34:22 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >Wonderful to see you making some actual statements, Gary.  The problem
> >you have is that if the clock on the plane is slower than the clock on
> >the ground, which it is, the pilot is going to believe that the plane is
> >going faster than 500 miles per hour.
> 
> Why would you have the pilot fly with a broken clock? It is irresponsible
> at best and could potentially be a safety issue. If the clock is broken
> as you say, the airspeed reading will be garbage so the pilot may slow
> the plane below the stall speed, for example.
> 
> Also, scientists investigating relativity such as the Galilean or Lorentz
> transforms, or anything else for that matter, would NEVER use a broken
> clock like that. It will ruin all measurements that depend on it.

Scientists are the ones who said that the clock on the airplane did not agree with the amount of time on the clock on the ground after the experiment.  Argue with Hafele and Keating.  They were the ones who reported the results of the experiment.  

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#471841

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-14 20:19 +0000
Message-ID<pnh54s$gam$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#471819
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 7:34:22 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>> >Wonderful to see you making some actual statements, Gary.  The problem
>> >you have is that if the clock on the plane is slower than the clock on
>> >the ground, which it is, the pilot is going to believe that the plane is
>> >going faster than 500 miles per hour.
>> 
>> Why would you have the pilot fly with a broken clock? It is irresponsible
>> at best and could potentially be a safety issue. If the clock is broken
>> as you say, the airspeed reading will be garbage so the pilot may slow
>> the plane below the stall speed, for example.
>> 
>> Also, scientists investigating relativity such as the Galilean or Lorentz
>> transforms, or anything else for that matter, would NEVER use a broken
>> clock like that. It will ruin all measurements that depend on it.

>Scientists are the ones who said that the clock on the airplane did not 
>agree with the amount of time on the clock on the ground after the 
>experiment.

That's right. But "scientists" did not use a broken clock. They started
with extremely precise atomic clocks that kept perfect lockstep with each
other on the ground. In other words, Einstein's ideal clocks. But when
flown on the planes, they differed. And when back together, once again
they ticked in perfect lockstep with each other.

>Argue with Hafele and Keating.  They were the ones who reported the 
>results of the experiment.  

It is you who would argue with them. I agree with them. They would tell
you that the experiment proves t' != t, and therefore the Galilean
transform doesn't work.

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#471844

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-14 13:31 -0700
Message-ID<50eb0ce8-aa3a-4026-88c9-bfa10bf97f72@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471841
On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 1:19:42 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 7:34:22 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> >Wonderful to see you making some actual statements, Gary.  The problem
> >> >you have is that if the clock on the plane is slower than the clock on
> >> >the ground, which it is, the pilot is going to believe that the plane is
> >> >going faster than 500 miles per hour.
> >> 
> >> Why would you have the pilot fly with a broken clock? It is irresponsible
> >> at best and could potentially be a safety issue. If the clock is broken
> >> as you say, the airspeed reading will be garbage so the pilot may slow
> >> the plane below the stall speed, for example.
> >> 
> >> Also, scientists investigating relativity such as the Galilean or Lorentz
> >> transforms, or anything else for that matter, would NEVER use a broken
> >> clock like that. It will ruin all measurements that depend on it.
> 
> >Scientists are the ones who said that the clock on the airplane did not 
> >agree with the amount of time on the clock on the ground after the 
> >experiment.
> 
> That's right. But "scientists" did not use a broken clock. They started
> with extremely precise atomic clocks that kept perfect lockstep with each
> other on the ground. In other words, Einstein's ideal clocks. But when
> flown on the planes, they differed. And when back together, once again
> they ticked in perfect lockstep with each other.
> 
> >Argue with Hafele and Keating.  They were the ones who reported the 
> >results of the experiment.  
> 
> It is you who would argue with them. I agree with them. They would tell
> you that the experiment proves t' != t, and therefore the Galilean
> transform doesn't work.

Well, see, what you do with the Galilean transformation equations if you have two rates of time that are different is to put them in separate sets of Galilean transformation equations.  So suppose that the clock on the airplane shows 49 hours after the flight, and the clock on the ground shows 49.5 hours after the flight, then an observer on the ground would calculate that the airplane was traveling 500 miles per hour, and the pilot of the plane, while he is still on the runway after landing, divides the distance traveled by the time on his clock and gets a faster velocity.  How do you explain it?
Well, of course, if you are a scientist and read a lot of Harry Potter books, you are going to believe that there was a length contraction.  Common people like me would believe that he got a faster speed for the airplane because his clock was slower than the clock on the ground. 

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#471850

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-14 20:56 +0000
Message-ID<pnh7a2$v71$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#471844
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 1:19:42 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>> >Scientists are the ones who said that the clock on the airplane did not
>> >agree with the amount of time on the clock on the ground after the
>> >experiment.

>> That's right. But "scientists" did not use a broken clock. They started
>> with extremely precise atomic clocks that kept perfect lockstep with each
>> other on the ground. In other words, Einstein's ideal clocks. But when
>> flown on the planes, they differed. And when back together, once again
>> they ticked in perfect lockstep with each other.

>> >Argue with Hafele and Keating.  They were the ones who reported the
>> >results of the experiment. 

>> It is you who would argue with them. I agree with them. They would tell
>> you that the experiment proves t' != t, and therefore the Galilean
>> transform doesn't work.

>Well, see, what you do with the Galilean transformation equations if you 
>have two rates of time that are different is to put them in separate sets 
>of Galilean transformation equations.

Now why would I do that? I already told you these are ideal clocks, they
keep perfect lockstep when sitting next to each other. I know there must
be some other explanation, because the Galilean transform states t'=t,
while I already see t' != t.

>  So suppose that the clock on the airplane shows 49 hours after the 
>flight, and the clock on the ground shows 49.5 hours after the flight, 
>then an observer on the ground would calculate that the airplane was 
>traveling 500 miles per hour, and the pilot of the plane, while he is 
still on the runway after landing, divides the distance traveled by the 
time on his clock and gets a faster velocity.  How do you explain it?

I investigate further, of course.  Let's call the two ideal clocks A and
B. As I said, when sitting next to each other at the airport, they tick in
perfect lockstep with each other. I repeat the experiment, first with A on
the plane and B stays on the ground, and A records 49 hours, while B
records 49.5 hours. I repeat with B on the plane and A on the ground. This
time B records 49 hours, while A records 49.5 hours.  I repeat several
more times, some times I have A on the plane with B on the ground, and
sometimes B on the plane with A on the ground. It turns out each time the
clock on the plane records 49 hours, while the ground clock records 49.5
hours, no matter which clock is on the plane/ground respectively. And
between flights I check to be sure they tick in lockstep, and they do.

So how do you explain that?

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#471857

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-14 14:24 -0700
Message-ID<036fe751-13ff-47ad-89a9-c8d01943396d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#471850
On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 1:56:36 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 1:19:42 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> >> >Scientists are the ones who said that the clock on the airplane did not
> >> >agree with the amount of time on the clock on the ground after the
> >> >experiment.
> 
> >> That's right. But "scientists" did not use a broken clock. They started
> >> with extremely precise atomic clocks that kept perfect lockstep with each
> >> other on the ground. In other words, Einstein's ideal clocks. But when
> >> flown on the planes, they differed. And when back together, once again
> >> they ticked in perfect lockstep with each other.
> 
> >> >Argue with Hafele and Keating.  They were the ones who reported the
> >> >results of the experiment. 
> 
> >> It is you who would argue with them. I agree with them. They would tell
> >> you that the experiment proves t' != t, and therefore the Galilean
> >> transform doesn't work.
> 
> >Well, see, what you do with the Galilean transformation equations if you 
> >have two rates of time that are different is to put them in separate sets 
> >of Galilean transformation equations.
> 
> Now why would I do that? I already told you these are ideal clocks, they
> keep perfect lockstep when sitting next to each other. I know there must
> be some other explanation, because the Galilean transform states t'=t,
> while I already see t' != t.
> 
> >  So suppose that the clock on the airplane shows 49 hours after the 
> >flight, and the clock on the ground shows 49.5 hours after the flight, 
> >then an observer on the ground would calculate that the airplane was 
> >traveling 500 miles per hour, and the pilot of the plane, while he is 
> still on the runway after landing, divides the distance traveled by the 
> time on his clock and gets a faster velocity.  How do you explain it?
> 
> I investigate further, of course.  Let's call the two ideal clocks A and
> B. As I said, when sitting next to each other at the airport, they tick in
> perfect lockstep with each other. I repeat the experiment, first with A on
> the plane and B stays on the ground, and A records 49 hours, while B
> records 49.5 hours. I repeat with B on the plane and A on the ground. This
> time B records 49 hours, while A records 49.5 hours.  I repeat several
> more times, some times I have A on the plane with B on the ground, and
> sometimes B on the plane with A on the ground. It turns out each time the
> clock on the plane records 49 hours, while the ground clock records 49.5
> hours, no matter which clock is on the plane/ground respectively. And
> between flights I check to be sure they tick in lockstep, and they do.
> 
> So how do you explain that?

The transitions of the cesium atoms in the clock on the airplane are slower than the transitions of the cesium atoms in the clock on the ground.  

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#471863

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-14 21:53 +0000
Message-ID<pnhakq$1d4e$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#471857
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 1:56:36 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 1:19:42 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> Scientists are the ones who said that the clock on the airplane did not
>>>>> agree with the amount of time on the clock on the ground after the
>>>>> experiment.
>> 
>>>> That's right. But "scientists" did not use a broken clock. They started
>>>> with extremely precise atomic clocks that kept perfect lockstep with each
>>>> other on the ground. In other words, Einstein's ideal clocks. But when
>>>> flown on the planes, they differed. And when back together, once again
>>>> they ticked in perfect lockstep with each other.
>> 
>>>>> Argue with Hafele and Keating.  They were the ones who reported the
>>>>> results of the experiment. 
>> 
>>>> It is you who would argue with them. I agree with them. They would tell
>>>> you that the experiment proves t' != t, and therefore the Galilean
>>>> transform doesn't work.
>> 
>>> Well, see, what you do with the Galilean transformation equations if you 
>>> have two rates of time that are different is to put them in separate sets 
>>> of Galilean transformation equations.
>> 
>> Now why would I do that? I already told you these are ideal clocks, they
>> keep perfect lockstep when sitting next to each other. I know there must
>> be some other explanation, because the Galilean transform states t'=t,
>> while I already see t' != t.
>> 
>>> So suppose that the clock on the airplane shows 49 hours after the 
>>> flight, and the clock on the ground shows 49.5 hours after the flight, 
>>> then an observer on the ground would calculate that the airplane was 
>>> traveling 500 miles per hour, and the pilot of the plane, while he is 
>> still on the runway after landing, divides the distance traveled by the 
>> time on his clock and gets a faster velocity.  How do you explain it?
>> 
>> I investigate further, of course.  Let's call the two ideal clocks A and
>> B. As I said, when sitting next to each other at the airport, they tick in
>> perfect lockstep with each other. I repeat the experiment, first with A on
>> the plane and B stays on the ground, and A records 49 hours, while B
>> records 49.5 hours. I repeat with B on the plane and A on the ground. This
>> time B records 49 hours, while A records 49.5 hours.  I repeat several
>> more times, some times I have A on the plane with B on the ground, and
>> sometimes B on the plane with A on the ground. It turns out each time the
>> clock on the plane records 49 hours, while the ground clock records 49.5
>> hours, no matter which clock is on the plane/ground respectively. And
>> between flights I check to be sure they tick in lockstep, and they do.
>> 
>> So how do you explain that?
> 
> The transitions of the cesium atoms in the clock on the airplane are
> slower than the transitions of the cesium atoms in the clock on the ground.  
> 

That would mean that the laws of physics in the airplane are different than
on the ground. In conflict with Galileo’s statement that the laws of
physics are the same in all inertial frames. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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