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Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light

Started byEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
First post2018-08-15 09:48 -0700
Last post2018-08-28 17:05 -0700
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  Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-15 09:48 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-15 19:17 +0200
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-15 11:58 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-16 13:18 +0200
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-16 10:27 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-16 10:30 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-15 19:51 +0200
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-16 04:38 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-16 07:13 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-16 07:21 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-16 07:24 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-16 16:44 +0200
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-16 22:42 +0200
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-17 07:14 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-17 07:43 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-17 16:57 +0200
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-17 08:59 -0700
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-17 09:22 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-17 11:23 -0700
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-17 14:06 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-17 14:26 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-17 23:39 +0200
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-17 22:44 +0000
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-17 18:04 -0700
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-22 14:55 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-17 22:45 +0000
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-18 06:48 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-17 22:42 +0000
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-18 06:54 -0700
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-18 16:45 +0200
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-18 08:05 -0700
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Sushika Imaki <kukih@wkkss.ki> - 2018-08-18 17:52 +0000
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-18 12:46 -0700
                                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-19 00:32 +0200
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-17 19:08 +0200
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-17 19:07 +0000
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-17 08:04 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light egas@pacbell.net - 2018-08-17 09:20 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-22 14:44 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:53 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-22 15:07 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-22 23:40 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 00:35 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-08-15 12:14 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 20:55 +0000
    Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-15 17:26 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 20:44 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 21:59 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 13:33 +0000
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-19 19:15 +0000
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-08-20 14:09 +0200
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-16 07:07 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-16 17:11 +0200
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-17 18:48 +0200
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-17 10:02 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-17 19:11 +0200
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-16 00:18 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-16 00:40 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-16 00:56 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-16 07:09 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-16 10:20 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-16 13:18 -0700
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-16 13:36 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-16 09:58 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-16 13:03 -0500
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-16 18:24 +0000
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-16 13:37 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-17 13:13 -0500
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-17 14:01 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-08-17 14:45 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-22 10:47 -0500
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 09:44 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-16 10:14 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-17 09:46 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-17 13:47 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-17 14:08 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-17 14:49 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-17 15:55 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-18 06:57 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-18 06:51 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-18 13:49 +0200
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-17 19:28 -0500
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-18 07:55 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-22 10:46 -0500
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 09:37 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 17:45 +0000
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 11:21 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:20 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-23 05:52 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-19 15:51 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-19 16:09 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-19 19:59 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-20 06:52 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-20 08:03 -0700
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-20 22:01 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 05:09 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 05:29 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-21 17:01 +0000
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-20 10:54 -0500
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 18:06 +0200
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-20 17:23 +0000
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-20 09:12 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 09:30 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-20 17:24 +0000
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 13:03 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-20 20:51 +0000
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-20 23:22 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-21 07:05 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-21 16:59 +0200
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-21 01:04 +0200
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-20 21:54 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:04 +0000
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-21 16:55 +0200
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-22 07:21 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:39 +0000
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-22 10:48 -0500
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 09:48 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 09:54 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 10:13 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-22 11:46 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-22 10:09 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 10:16 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-22 11:39 -0700
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 12:54 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 13:02 -0700
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 13:06 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 13:07 -0700
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 13:28 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 13:31 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 13:39 -0700
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 13:57 -0700
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:11 -0700
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 14:35 -0700
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 15:47 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-22 13:55 -0700
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 14:31 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-22 14:46 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-23 07:38 -0700
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-23 10:00 -0700
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-23 13:54 -0700
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-23 15:51 -0700
                                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-23 21:20 -0700
                                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-24 07:49 -0700
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 20:16 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 16:28 -0700
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 20:20 -0700
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-23 08:00 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 10:34 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-22 11:41 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:24 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-21 21:17 +0200
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-21 22:05 +0200
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-22 15:12 +0200
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-22 15:20 +0200
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-23 10:44 +0200
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-23 20:12 +0200
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-23 11:19 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 11:24 +0100
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-24 22:53 +0200
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-19 10:36 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 20:51 +0200
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-19 12:47 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 23:15 +0200
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-21 17:04 +0000
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-20 01:15 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 12:54 +0200
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 07:28 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 16:48 +0200
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-20 08:12 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 08:39 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 17:51 +0200
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-20 09:02 -0700
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 09:45 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-20 12:53 -0500
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 13:22 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 13:41 -0700
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-20 21:21 +0000
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-22 11:11 -0500
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 10:01 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-22 20:23 -0500
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-23 08:20 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-23 11:52 -0500
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-23 13:37 -0700
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-23 15:15 -0700
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-23 21:13 -0700
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-24 06:20 -0700
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Eters Beckenbauer <lrrif@dnewrersd.ne> - 2018-08-24 13:25 +0000
                                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-25 03:33 -0700
                                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Brandi Hofmann <ohifu@awdwf.nr> - 2018-08-28 11:09 +0000
                                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-28 08:37 -0700
                                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-28 09:00 -0700
                                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Brandi Hofmann <ohifu@awdwf.nr> - 2018-08-28 16:07 +0000
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-24 07:30 -0700
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-24 08:12 -0700
                                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-24 08:47 -0700
                                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-24 09:02 -0700
                                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-24 09:12 -0700
                                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-25 23:29 -0700
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 08:53 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-20 13:11 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 13:55 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-20 15:29 +0000
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 09:02 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-20 09:13 -0700
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 09:50 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-20 12:57 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 13:28 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-20 13:38 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-20 13:56 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-08-21 09:54 +0200
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-21 07:09 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-21 07:10 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-21 07:18 -0700
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-21 07:51 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-21 09:55 -0700
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-21 13:51 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 14:02 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-21 23:29 +0200
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:05 -0700
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:37 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-08-21 14:48 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 15:22 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 10:28 -0700
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 08:52 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-21 07:39 -0700
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-08-22 10:51 +0200
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 02:17 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-22 07:13 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-21 17:10 +0000
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-21 14:07 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-22 11:36 +0000
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 10:51 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-21 17:09 +0000
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-21 14:01 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-22 11:45 +0000
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-20 23:24 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-21 20:33 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-22 15:04 +0200
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 07:18 -0700
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-22 10:45 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-22 12:08 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-22 18:25 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-23 04:46 +0200
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 20:18 -0700
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-22 23:36 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 09:23 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-23 19:55 +0200
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-23 15:17 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-24 03:48 +0200
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-23 08:24 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-23 00:39 +0200
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 17:06 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-25 01:03 +0200
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 16:18 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-25 02:01 +0200
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:51 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 18:06 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-25 11:39 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-25 03:33 +0200
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-24 16:41 -0700
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-25 02:45 +0200
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-25 09:49 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-26 23:27 -0500
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-27 12:38 -0700
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-28 11:01 -0500
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-28 09:59 -0700
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 14:25 -0700
                                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-30 08:58 -0700
                                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 10:45 -0700
                                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-30 12:19 -0700
                                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 13:14 -0700
                                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-30 13:26 -0700
                                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 13:58 -0700
                                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-30 14:36 -0700
                                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 14:52 -0700
                                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-30 13:18 -0700
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-30 07:56 -0500
                                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-30 09:21 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-27 15:43 +0200
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-27 11:22 -0500
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Toloni D'antonio <uut@gwrroei.ta> - 2018-08-27 16:37 +0000
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 10:24 -0700
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 17:20 -0700
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 17:43 -0700
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 10:51 -0700
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 18:01 +0000
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-27 18:13 -0700
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 19:30 -0700
                                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 21:53 +0200
                                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 15:10 -0700
                                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-27 18:31 -0500
                                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 19:13 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 09:39 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-27 12:40 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Eters Beckenbauer <lrrif@dnewrersd.ne> - 2018-08-23 14:43 +0000
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-25 23:39 -0700
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-26 22:53 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-27 23:37 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-24 15:22 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 07:11 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-22 14:46 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-23 07:50 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 08:50 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-23 13:34 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-23 13:37 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 14:25 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 15:29 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-24 06:10 +0200
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-25 23:24 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-25 23:37 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 06:40 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-26 08:48 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 15:53 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 15:57 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 16:12 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 16:25 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 16:45 -0700
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 17:50 -0700
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 01:24 -0700
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-24 02:04 -0700
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 08:16 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 17:14 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 18:36 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-24 17:04 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 11:41 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 18:54 +0000
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 12:32 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-27 23:08 +0200
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 13:11 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 13:13 -0700
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 00:47 +0200
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 20:28 +0000
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 00:59 +0200
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 01:37 +0000
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 21:51 +0200
              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 13:05 -0700
                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 23:46 +0200
                  Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 16:12 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 16:41 -0700
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 17:00 -0700
                    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 17:51 +0200
                      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-29 10:46 -0700
                        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 20:04 +0200
                          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-29 11:22 -0700
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 20:42 +0200
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 13:06 -0700
                                Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 22:10 +0200
                            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 15:35 -0700
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-30 22:48 +0200
                              Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-30 15:36 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-27 13:59 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-27 23:19 +0200
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 16:10 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 01:18 +0200
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 16:27 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 02:06 +0200
        Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 09:19 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 16:52 +0000
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 10:32 -0700
          Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 22:09 +0200
            Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 13:25 -0700
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 17:10 -0700
      Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 21:47 +0200
    Re: Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 11:17 -0700
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#467924 — Variable Time and the Variable Speed of Light

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-08-15 09:48 -0700
SubjectVariable Time and the Variable Speed of Light
Message-ID<6fceaded-718d-4c9b-ba23-577dd41380ec@googlegroups.com>
Hey guys, I'm baaaack.

I just put a new paper on vixra.org.  It is titled "Variable Time and the
Variable Speed of Light."  Here is the link: http://vixra.org/pdf/1607.0289v6.pdf

And here is the opening paragraph:

"The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost every day. No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you measure it correctly, you will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per second. Does this mean that the speed of light is the same everywhere? No. It means the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere. And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special and General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in one location, and if you also measure it to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in another location, if the length of a second is different at those two locations, then the speed of light is also different."

Since the facts in that paragraph are undeniable, I assume everyone here fully agrees with it.  Nevertheless, I'd be interested in your thoughts. :-)

Ed

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#467926

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2018-08-15 19:17 +0200
Message-ID<ftj5goFr4b3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#467924
Am 15.08.2018 um 18:48 schrieb Ed Lake:
> Hey guys, I'm baaaack.
> 
> I just put a new paper on vixra.org.  It is titled "Variable Time and the
> Variable Speed of Light."  Here is the link: http://vixra.org/pdf/1607.0289v6.pdf
> 
> And here is the opening paragraph:
> 
> "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost every day. No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you measure it correctly, you will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per second. Does this mean that the speed of light is the same everywhere? No. It means the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere. And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special and General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in one location, and if you also measure it to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in another location, if the length of a second is different at those two locations, then the speed of light is also different."
> 
> Since the facts in that paragraph are undeniable, I assume everyone here fully agrees with it.  Nevertheless, I'd be interested in your thoughts. :-)

Sure, there is circular reasoning in the definition of space and time.

But that doesn't help that much, since with what shall we measure the 
length of a second if not with a clock? And for the creation of clocks 
we need to know the length of a second.

Similar with distance:

speed of light in vacuum is always constant, hence we can define the 
length of a meter by the fraction of a second and the speed of light in 
vacuum.

But how fast is actually light, if you have no meter defined?

TH


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#467934

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-08-15 11:58 -0700
Message-ID<630f2bdc-7c12-45e0-9375-4b858a1fd6aa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#467926
On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 12:17:15 PM UTC-5, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 15.08.2018 um 18:48 schrieb Ed Lake:
> > Hey guys, I'm baaaack.
> > 
> > I just put a new paper on vixra.org.  It is titled "Variable Time and the
> > Variable Speed of Light."  Here is the link: http://vixra.org/pdf/1607.0289v6.pdf
> > 
> > And here is the opening paragraph:
> > 
> > "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost every day. No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you measure it correctly, you will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per second. Does this mean that the speed of light is the same everywhere? No. It means the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere. And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special and General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in one location, and if you also measure it to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in another location, if the length of a second is different at those two locations, then the speed of light is also different."
> > 
> > Since the facts in that paragraph are undeniable, I assume everyone here fully agrees with it.  Nevertheless, I'd be interested in your thoughts. :-)
> 
> Sure, there is circular reasoning in the definition of space and time.

The issue is time and the speed of light, not space and time.

> 
> But that doesn't help that much, since with what shall we measure the 
> length of a second if not with a clock? And for the creation of clocks 
> we need to know the length of a second.

The length of a second was arbitrarily determined.  They arbitrarily divided the solar day into 24 hours, an hour into 60 minutes and minutes into 60 seconds.  Then they built clocks to measure time that way. 

Later, as it it became more important to be able to compare measurements of time, they arbitrarily decided that one second is defined as “the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium-133 atom.”  

The point is: A second defined that way is longer when you are at the bottom of a mountain than when you are at the top, because atoms spin faster when they are farther away from a gravitational mass.
 
> 
> Similar with distance:
> 
> speed of light in vacuum is always constant, hence we can define the 
> length of a meter by the fraction of a second and the speed of light in 
> vacuum.
> 
> But how fast is actually light, if you have no meter defined?

They define a meter as 100 centimeters, but the whole scheme of measuring distances was arbitrarily defined, too.  Again, the point is: Using the same definition of a meter and the same definition of a second, when you measure the speed of light at the top of a mountain it will be faster than the speed of light measured at the bottom of a mountain.  That is because clocks tick faster at the top of the mountain and thus a second that consists of 9,192,631,770 "ticks" is shorter. 

Ed

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#467983

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2018-08-16 13:18 +0200
Message-ID<ftl4rnFa5q3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#467934
Am 15.08.2018 um 20:58 schrieb Ed Lake:
> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 12:17:15 PM UTC-5, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 15.08.2018 um 18:48 schrieb Ed Lake:
>>> Hey guys, I'm baaaack.
>>>
>>> I just put a new paper on vixra.org.  It is titled "Variable Time and the
>>> Variable Speed of Light."  Here is the link: http://vixra.org/pdf/1607.0289v6.pdf
>>>
>>> And here is the opening paragraph:
>>>
>>> "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost every day. No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you measure it correctly, you will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per second. Does this mean that the speed of light is the same everywhere? No. It means the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere. And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special and General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in one location, and if you also measure it to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in another location, if the length of a second is different at those two locations, then the speed of light is also different."
>>>
>>> Since the facts in that paragraph are undeniable, I assume everyone here fully agrees with it.  Nevertheless, I'd be interested in your thoughts. :-)
>>
>> Sure, there is circular reasoning in the definition of space and time.
> 
> The issue is time and the speed of light, not space and time.


Well, 'space' and 'length' are related concepts.

You only need to multiply 'length' by three and order the axis in mutual 
perpendicular directions.

>>
>> But that doesn't help that much, since with what shall we measure the
>> length of a second if not with a clock? And for the creation of clocks
>> we need to know the length of a second.
> 
> The length of a second was arbitrarily determined.  They arbitrarily divided the solar day into 24 hours, an hour into 60 minutes and minutes into 60 seconds.  Then they built clocks to measure time that way.

Actually the length of a second was derived from the rotation of planet 
Earth.

But that doesn't tell, how long a second is 'in real'.

IOW we are not certain, whether or not other beings from other 
dimensions would regard a second as long or short and if their second 
would be similar to ours.

> Later, as it it became more important to be able to compare measurements of time, they arbitrarily decided that one second is defined as “the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium-133 atom.”
> 
> The point is: A second defined that way is longer when you are at the bottom of a mountain than when you are at the top, because atoms spin faster when they are farther away from a gravitational mass.
>   
>>
>> Similar with distance:
>>
>> speed of light in vacuum is always constant, hence we can define the
>> length of a meter by the fraction of a second and the speed of light in
>> vacuum.
>>
>> But how fast is actually light, if you have no meter defined?
> 
> They define a meter as 100 centimeters, but the whole scheme of measuring distances was arbitrarily defined, too.  Again, the point is: Using the same definition of a meter and the same definition of a second, when you measure the speed of light at the top of a mountain it will be faster than the speed of light measured at the bottom of a mountain.  That is because clocks tick faster at the top of the mountain and thus a second that consists of 9,192,631,770 "ticks" is shorter.

Length was first defined over the length of the Emperors foot.

But with aging of the monarch or by loss of the foot, the system of 
measurement needed to be changed.

So other means were considered and speed of light in vacuum was one 
possibility.

But imho that system is not much better than the system with the 
Emperor's feet.

TH

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#468028

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2018-08-16 10:27 -0700
Message-ID<738a35c3-a53c-4e8a-8997-82444067c3bc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#467926
W dniu środa, 15 sierpnia 2018 19:17:15 UTC+2 użytkownik Thomas Heger napisał:

> But how fast is actually light, if you have no meter defined?

This is irrelevant - the base speed is arbitrarily always.

But unfortunately: people prefer 'natural units' of measure - always!,
thus the 'light speed' is automatically fixed,
because these 'natural units' are varying in the same way
like the nature itself varries;

namely: the units of measure are varying perfectly in the same way,
how the light speed varies, because the light speed determines these units.

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#468031

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-08-16 10:30 -0700
Message-ID<66d286d9-868f-4777-833a-2ce60bee3bea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468028
Eduardo Del Lago = TARD


((((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) * ((((1 kg) * G) / (c^2))^4)) / ((c * (4e-7 * pi))^2)) / (1 - (1 / 137.035999)) = 1.000013 m kg

(((1 - (1 / 137.035999)) * m kg) / ((((c^7) / hbar) * (((1 kg) / (c^2))^4)) / ((c * (4e-7 * pi))^2)))^0.5 = 6.67403662 × 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2

((((1 - (1 / 137.035999)) * m kg) / ((((c^7) / hbar) * (((1 kg) / (c^2))^4)) / ((c * (4e-7 * pi))^2)))^0.5) / G = 0.999993501

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#467927

FromDirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com>
Date2018-08-15 19:51 +0200
Message-ID<pl1p77$1075$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#467924
Op 15-aug-2018 om 18:48 schreef Ed Lake:
> Hey guys, I'm baaaack.
> 
> I just put a new paper on vixra.org.  It is titled "Variable Time and
> the Variable Speed of Light."  Here is the link:
> http://vixra.org/pdf/1607.0289v6.pdf
> 
> And here is the opening paragraph:
> 
> "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost
> every day. 

HAHAHAHAHA!

> No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you
> measure it correctly, you will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per
> second. Does this mean that the speed of light is the same
> everywhere? No. It means the speed of light PER SECOND is the same
> everywhere. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

> And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special and
> General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost
> everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be
> 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in one location, and if you also
> measure it to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in another location,
> if the length of a second is different at those two locations, then
> the speed of light is also different."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

> 
> Since the facts in that paragraph are undeniable, I assume everyone
> here fully agrees with it.  Nevertheless, I'd be interested in your
> thoughts. :-)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

> 
> Ed
> 

Here we go for another round of Lake bashing :-)

Dirk Vdm

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#467986

FromPaparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl>
Date2018-08-16 04:38 -0700
Message-ID<e2fd7720-cf49-4c43-b136-e7a06df58554@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#467927
El miércoles, 15 de agosto de 2018, 14:51:39 (UTC-3), Dirk Van de moortel  escribió:
> Op 15-aug-2018 om 18:48 schreef Ed Lake:
> > Hey guys, I'm baaaack.
> > 
> > I just put a new paper on vixra.org.  It is titled "Variable Time and
> > the Variable Speed of Light."  Here is the link:
> > http://vixra.org/pdf/1607.0289v6.pdf
> > 
> > And here is the opening paragraph:
> > 
> > "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost
> > every day. 
> 
> HAHAHAHAHA!
> 
> > No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you
> > measure it correctly, you will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per
> > second. Does this mean that the speed of light is the same
> > everywhere? No. It means the speed of light PER SECOND is the same
> > everywhere. 
> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> 
> > And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special and
> > General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost
> > everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be
> > 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in one location, and if you also
> > measure it to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in another location,
> > if the length of a second is different at those two locations, then
> > the speed of light is also different."
> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> 
> > 
> > Since the facts in that paragraph are undeniable, I assume everyone
> > here fully agrees with it.  Nevertheless, I'd be interested in your
> > thoughts. :-)
> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> 
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> 
> Here we go for another round of Lake bashing :-)
> 
> Dirk Vdm

Lake writes this nonsense in his "paper":

"The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost every day.
No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you measure it correctly, you
will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per second. Does this mean that the
speed of light is the same everywhere? No. It means the speed of light per
second is the same everywhere. And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special
and General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost
everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be 299,792,458
meters per second in one location, and if you also measure it to be 299,792,458
meters per second in another location, if the length of a second is different at
those two locations, then the speed of light is also different."

Note "It means the ***speed of light per second*** is the same everywhere"

Ha Ha Ha!!!!

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#468000

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-08-16 07:13 -0700
Message-ID<8636176b-d6c6-42cd-8cd3-f5be15cf91f6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#467986
On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 6:38:19 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:
> El miércoles, 15 de agosto de 2018, 14:51:39 (UTC-3), Dirk Van de moortel  escribió:
> > Op 15-aug-2018 om 18:48 schreef Ed Lake:
> > > Hey guys, I'm baaaack.
> > > 
> > > I just put a new paper on vixra.org.  It is titled "Variable Time and
> > > the Variable Speed of Light."  Here is the link:
> > > http://vixra.org/pdf/1607.0289v6.pdf
> > > 
> > > And here is the opening paragraph:
> > > 
> > > "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost
> > > every day. 
> > 
> > HAHAHAHAHA!
> > 
> > > No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you
> > > measure it correctly, you will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per
> > > second. Does this mean that the speed of light is the same
> > > everywhere? No. It means the speed of light PER SECOND is the same
> > > everywhere. 
> > 
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> > 
> > > And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special and
> > > General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost
> > > everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be
> > > 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in one location, and if you also
> > > measure it to be 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND in another location,
> > > if the length of a second is different at those two locations, then
> > > the speed of light is also different."
> > 
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> > 
> > > 
> > > Since the facts in that paragraph are undeniable, I assume everyone
> > > here fully agrees with it.  Nevertheless, I'd be interested in your
> > > thoughts. :-)
> > 
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> > 
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > 
> > Here we go for another round of Lake bashing :-)
> > 
> > Dirk Vdm
> 
> Lake writes this nonsense in his "paper":
> 
> "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost every day.
> No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you measure it correctly, you
> will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per second. Does this mean that the
> speed of light is the same everywhere? No. It means the speed of light per
> second is the same everywhere. And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special
> and General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost
> everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be 299,792,458
> meters per second in one location, and if you also measure it to be 299,792,458
> meters per second in another location, if the length of a second is different at
> those two locations, then the speed of light is also different."
> 
> Note "It means the ***speed of light per second*** is the same everywhere"
> 
> Ha Ha Ha!!!!

Can you provide an example of a location where the speed of light was MEASURED to be less than or greather than 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND?

Ed

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#468001

FromPaparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl>
Date2018-08-16 07:21 -0700
Message-ID<1e7f1139-6d15-4a1e-8584-eb3220ca6f3c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468000
El jueves, 16 de agosto de 2018, 11:13:54 (UTC-3), Ed Lake  escribió:
> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 6:38:19 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:

> > 
> > Lake writes this nonsense in his "paper":
> > 
> > "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost every day.
> > No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you measure it correctly, you
> > will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per second. Does this mean that the
> > speed of light is the same everywhere? No. It means the speed of light per
> > second is the same everywhere. And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special
> > and General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost
> > everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be 299,792,458
> > meters per second in one location, and if you also measure it to be 299,792,458
> > meters per second in another location, if the length of a second is different at
> > those two locations, then the speed of light is also different."
> > 
> > Note "It means the ***speed of light per second*** is the same everywhere"
> > 
> > Ha Ha Ha!!!!
> 
> Can you provide an example of a location where the speed of light was MEASURED to be less than or greather than 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND?
> 
> Ed

It was you who wrote ***speed of light per second***. Do you not realize how
nonsensical that is?

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#468002

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-08-16 07:24 -0700
Message-ID<cd4e8dea-ba17-4be3-820f-a96c5c2b2c0b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468001
On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 9:21:58 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:
> El jueves, 16 de agosto de 2018, 11:13:54 (UTC-3), Ed Lake  escribió:
> > On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 6:38:19 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > Lake writes this nonsense in his "paper":
> > > 
> > > "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost every day.
> > > No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you measure it correctly, you
> > > will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per second. Does this mean that the
> > > speed of light is the same everywhere? No. It means the speed of light per
> > > second is the same everywhere. And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special
> > > and General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost
> > > everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be 299,792,458
> > > meters per second in one location, and if you also measure it to be 299,792,458
> > > meters per second in another location, if the length of a second is different at
> > > those two locations, then the speed of light is also different."
> > > 
> > > Note "It means the ***speed of light per second*** is the same everywhere"
> > > 
> > > Ha Ha Ha!!!!
> > 
> > Can you provide an example of a location where the speed of light was MEASURED to be less than or greather than 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND?
> > 
> > Ed
> 
> It was you who wrote ***speed of light per second***. Do you not realize how
> nonsensical that is?

Nope.  Explain the problem to me.

Ed 

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#468004

FromDirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com>
Date2018-08-16 16:44 +0200
Message-ID<pl42ko$efd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#468002
Op 16-aug-2018 om 16:24 schreef Ed Lake:
> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 9:21:58 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:
>> El jueves, 16 de agosto de 2018, 11:13:54 (UTC-3), Ed Lake  escribió:
>>> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 6:38:19 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Lake writes this nonsense in his "paper":
>>>>
>>>> "The fact that the speed of light is variable is demonstrated almost every day.
>>>> No matter where you measure the speed of light, if you measure it correctly, you
>>>> will get a result of 299,792,458 meters per second. Does this mean that the
>>>> speed of light is the same everywhere? No. It means the speed of light per
>>>> second is the same everywhere. And, according to Einstein’s Theories of Special
>>>> and General Relativity, the length of a second can be different almost
>>>> everywhere. That means that if you measure the speed of light to be 299,792,458
>>>> meters per second in one location, and if you also measure it to be 299,792,458
>>>> meters per second in another location, if the length of a second is different at
>>>> those two locations, then the speed of light is also different."
>>>>
>>>> Note "It means the ***speed of light per second*** is the same everywhere"
>>>>
>>>> Ha Ha Ha!!!!
>>>
>>> Can you provide an example of a location where the speed of light was MEASURED to be less than or greather than 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND?
>>>
>>> Ed
>>
>> It was you who wrote ***speed of light per second***. Do you not realize how
>> nonsensical that is?
> 
> Nope.  Explain the problem to me.

I really hope that nobody will try to explain that.
You would then go and make a little change to the
"paper", and thus make it less obviously nonsensical
for other ignorami who might read it.

But I'm sure that *someone* will be daft enough to
explain it :-|

Dirk Vdm


> 
> Ed
> 

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#468071

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2018-08-16 22:42 +0200
Message-ID<ftm5tkFhq6bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#468002
Am 16.08.2018 um 16:24 schrieb Ed Lake:
...
>>>> Note "It means the ***speed of light per second*** is the same everywhere"
>>>>
>>>> Ha Ha Ha!!!!
>>>
>>> Can you provide an example of a location where the speed of light was MEASURED to be less than or greather than 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND?
>>>
>>> Ed
>>
>> It was you who wrote ***speed of light per second***. Do you not realize how
>> nonsensical that is?
> 
> Nope.  Explain the problem to me.

Well :

v = ds /dt

if you write 'speed per second' you have time twice below the line of 
the fraction.


TH

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#468126

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-08-17 07:14 -0700
Message-ID<f5e1a222-6b68-49c2-86bc-dd362b28d0c7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468071
On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 3:42:31 PM UTC-5, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 16.08.2018 um 16:24 schrieb Ed Lake:
> ...
> >>>> Note "It means the ***speed of light per second*** is the same everywhere"
> >>>>
> >>>> Ha Ha Ha!!!!
> >>>
> >>> Can you provide an example of a location where the speed of light was MEASURED to be less than or greather than 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND?
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>
> >> It was you who wrote ***speed of light per second***. Do you not realize how
> >> nonsensical that is?
> > 
> > Nope.  Explain the problem to me.
> 
> Well :
> 
> v = ds /dt
> 
> if you write 'speed per second' you have time twice below the line of 
> the fraction.
> 
> 
> TH

So, you're saying I should have written "velocity of light per second" instead of "speed of light per second" because that is the only way mathematicians can understand it?  

"Speed" is defined as: "the rate at which someone or something is able to move or operate."

"Velocity" is defined as: "the speed of something in a given direction."

I wrote "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere."

If I look up the SPEED of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.

If I look up the VELOCITY of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.

Is it only mathematicians who cannot understand that "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere"?

Ed 

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#468128

FromPaparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl>
Date2018-08-17 07:43 -0700
Message-ID<00732213-255a-4f49-b216-142e714646c6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468126
El viernes, 17 de agosto de 2018, 11:14:43 (UTC-3), Ed Lake  escribió:

> 
> So, you're saying I should have written "velocity of light per second" instead of "speed of light per second" because that is the only way mathematicians can understand it?  
> 
> "Speed" is defined as: "the rate at which someone or something is able to move or operate."
> 
> "Velocity" is defined as: "the speed of something in a given direction."
> 
> I wrote "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere."
> 
> If I look up the SPEED of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.
> 
> If I look up the VELOCITY of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.
> 
> Is it only mathematicians who cannot understand that "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere"?
> 
> Ed

Edward:

1) Speed of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND!!!
2) Your "speed of light per second" is read by any normal person as
299,792,458 meters PER SECOND per second. Don't you realized how dumb 
that is?
3) Because of this your so called "paper" is wrong!

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#468131

FromDirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com>
Date2018-08-17 16:57 +0200
Message-ID<pl6no4$nrl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#468128
Op 17-aug-2018 om 16:43 schreef Paparios:
> El viernes, 17 de agosto de 2018, 11:14:43 (UTC-3), Ed Lake  escribió:
> 
>>
>> So, you're saying I should have written "velocity of light per second" instead of "speed of light per second" because that is the only way mathematicians can understand it?
>>
>> "Speed" is defined as: "the rate at which someone or something is able to move or operate."
>>
>> "Velocity" is defined as: "the speed of something in a given direction."
>>
>> I wrote "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere."
>>
>> If I look up the SPEED of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.
>>
>> If I look up the VELOCITY of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.
>>
>> Is it only mathematicians who cannot understand that "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere"?
>>
>> Ed
> 
> Edward:
> 
> 1) Speed of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND!!!
> 2) Your "speed of light per second" is read by any normal person as
> 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND per second. Don't you realized how dumb
> that is?
> 3) Because of this your so called "paper" is wrong!
> 

You are spoiling the fun :-(

Dirk Vdm

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#468140

FromPaparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl>
Date2018-08-17 08:59 -0700
Message-ID<6ff30bfc-4aea-4347-92c5-711b6649ea72@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468131
El viernes, 17 de agosto de 2018, 11:57:11 (UTC-3), Dirk Van de moortel  escribió:
> Op 17-aug-2018 om 16:43 schreef Paparios:
> > El viernes, 17 de agosto de 2018, 11:14:43 (UTC-3), Ed Lake  escribió:
> > 
> >>
> >> So, you're saying I should have written "velocity of light per second" instead of "speed of light per second" because that is the only way mathematicians can understand it?
> >>
> >> "Speed" is defined as: "the rate at which someone or something is able to move or operate."
> >>
> >> "Velocity" is defined as: "the speed of something in a given direction."
> >>
> >> I wrote "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere."
> >>
> >> If I look up the SPEED of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.
> >>
> >> If I look up the VELOCITY of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.
> >>
> >> Is it only mathematicians who cannot understand that "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere"?
> >>
> >> Ed
> > 
> > Edward:
> > 
> > 1) Speed of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND!!!
> > 2) Your "speed of light per second" is read by any normal person as
> > 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND per second. Don't you realized how dumb
> > that is?
> > 3) Because of this your so called "paper" is wrong!
> > 
> 
> You are spoiling the fun :-(
> 
> Dirk Vdm

But, as you can see, he will not understand a bit of this....

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#468143

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-08-17 09:22 -0700
Message-ID<e17b96c6-8f30-429d-adad-7067881475a7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468140
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:59:03 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:
> El viernes, 17 de agosto de 2018, 11:57:11 (UTC-3), Dirk Van de moortel  escribió:
> > Op 17-aug-2018 om 16:43 schreef Paparios:
> > > El viernes, 17 de agosto de 2018, 11:14:43 (UTC-3), Ed Lake  escribió:
> > > 
> > >>
> > >> So, you're saying I should have written "velocity of light per second" instead of "speed of light per second" because that is the only way mathematicians can understand it?
> > >>
> > >> "Speed" is defined as: "the rate at which someone or something is able to move or operate."
> > >>
> > >> "Velocity" is defined as: "the speed of something in a given direction."
> > >>
> > >> I wrote "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere."
> > >>
> > >> If I look up the SPEED of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.
> > >>
> > >> If I look up the VELOCITY of light, the answer I get is that the SPEED of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND.
> > >>
> > >> Is it only mathematicians who cannot understand that "the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere"?
> > >>
> > >> Ed
> > > 
> > > Edward:
> > > 
> > > 1) Speed of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND!!!
> > > 2) Your "speed of light per second" is read by any normal person as
> > > 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND per second. Don't you realized how dumb
> > > that is?
> > > 3) Because of this your so called "paper" is wrong!
> > > 
> > 
> > You are spoiling the fun :-(
> > 
> > Dirk Vdm
> 
> But, as you can see, he will not understand a bit of this....

What I'm seeing, Paparios, is that you appear to understand nothing but mathematics, and you therefore cannot explain anything except mathematics.

Ed

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#468161

FromPaparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl>
Date2018-08-17 11:23 -0700
Message-ID<f7732f6c-4a60-4e68-904f-8b966660508b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468143
El viernes, 17 de agosto de 2018, 13:22:46 (UTC-3), Ed Lake  escribió:
> On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:59:03 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:

> > > > Edward:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) Speed of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND!!!
> > > > 2) Your "speed of light per second" is read by any normal person as
> > > > 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND per second. Don't you realized how dumb
> > > > that is?
> > > > 3) Because of this your so called "paper" is wrong!
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > You are spoiling the fun :-(
> > > 
> > > Dirk Vdm
> > 
> > But, as you can see, he will not understand a bit of this....
> 
> What I'm seeing, Paparios, is that you appear to understand nothing but mathematics, and you therefore cannot explain anything except mathematics.
> 
> Ed

What we are seeing is that you DO NOT KNOW or UNDERSTAND any of math or physics.

You wrote, again and again, at the begining of your "paper" the following text:

..."No. It means the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere."

The speed of light has units meters/second, right?

When you, again and again, write "speed of light PER SECOND" you are
expressing something that has units meters/second/PER SECOND, that is meters/second^2 (which are the units of acceleration).

This is a childist mistake of yours, and worse one that you apparently
can't see....

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#468172

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-08-17 14:06 -0700
Message-ID<74a48565-f968-4199-9821-16750120b404@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468161
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 1:23:24 PM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:
> El viernes, 17 de agosto de 2018, 13:22:46 (UTC-3), Ed Lake  escribió:
> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:59:03 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:
> 
> > > > > Edward:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1) Speed of light is 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND!!!
> > > > > 2) Your "speed of light per second" is read by any normal person as
> > > > > 299,792,458 meters PER SECOND per second. Don't you realized how dumb
> > > > > that is?
> > > > > 3) Because of this your so called "paper" is wrong!
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > You are spoiling the fun :-(
> > > > 
> > > > Dirk Vdm
> > > 
> > > But, as you can see, he will not understand a bit of this....
> > 
> > What I'm seeing, Paparios, is that you appear to understand nothing but mathematics, and you therefore cannot explain anything except mathematics.
> > 
> > Ed
> 
> What we are seeing is that you DO NOT KNOW or UNDERSTAND any of math or physics.
> 
> You wrote, again and again, at the begining of your "paper" the following text:
> 
> ..."No. It means the speed of light PER SECOND is the same everywhere."
> 
> The speed of light has units meters/second, right?
> 
> When you, again and again, write "speed of light PER SECOND" you are
> expressing something that has units meters/second/PER SECOND, that is meters/second^2 (which are the units of acceleration).
> 
> This is a childist mistake of yours, and worse one that you apparently
> can't see....

Why did you cut out all the links to places that say the same thing I say?

Is it because you cannot admit it is a childish mistake of YOURS due to the fact that you cannot understand English?

Here are the links again:

"The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics. Its exact value is 299,792,458 metres PER SECOND (approximately 300,000 km/s (186,000 mi/s)."  Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light

"The speed of light in a vacuum is 186,282 miles PER SECOND (299,792 kilometers PER SECOND), and in theory nothing can travel faster than light." Source: https://www.space.com/15830-light-speed.html

"The speed of light in a vacuum is 299,792,458 metres PER SECOND, a figure scientists finally agreed on in 1975." Source: https://www.sciencealert.com/why-is-the-speed-of-light-the-speed-of-light

Why don't you contact those sources (and thousands more) to tell them they are wrong? 

Do you believe they are also wrong?  Then how can you suggest it is only me?

Ed

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