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The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS)

Started bykenseto <setoken@att.net>
First post2018-07-21 05:44 -0700
Last post2018-08-03 10:45 -0700
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  The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 05:44 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:25 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-21 06:35 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-21 08:56 -0500
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 07:08 -0700
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 10:01 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 17:15 +0000
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 17:15 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 10:23 -0700
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 12:56 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 20:23 +0000
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 13:31 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 23:13 -0700
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-22 08:01 -0700
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-22 15:25 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:40 +0100
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-23 05:38 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-23 14:29 +0000
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-23 12:48 -0500
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-23 19:04 +0000
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-27 12:04 +0000
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 14:47 -0700
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 00:07 -0700
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 02:19 -0700
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:20 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 13:08 -0500
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 18:30 +0000
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 11:46 -0700
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 19:04 +0000
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 12:09 -0700
                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 20:56 +0000
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 15:46 -0700
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:20 -0700
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 23:39 -0700
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 09:36 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 16:08 -0700
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:21 -0700
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 23:42 -0700
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 09:40 -0700
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 11:42 -0700
                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 12:46 -0700
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 20:21 -0700
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 22:20 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 23:49 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 08:37 -0700
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendm.dp> - 2018-07-26 11:11 +0000
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:24 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:39 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-27 11:52 +0000
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 04:39 +0100
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-23 20:55 -0700
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 04:46 +0000
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 00:52 -0500
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:27 -0700
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:49 +0000
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:50 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 13:17 -0500
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 18:27 +0000
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 13:24 +0100
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 12:52 +0000
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 06:14 -0700
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:46 +0000
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 12:27 -0700
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 05:34 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 15:29 -0700
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-25 07:58 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-21 23:59 -0500
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-22 13:46 +0000
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-22 17:59 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-22 18:25 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-22 07:48 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-22 18:01 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 07:29 -0700
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-23 21:35 +0000
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 12:15 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 19:30 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 16:20 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-21 21:40 +0200
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 19:50 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 00:46 +0200
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-22 13:42 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 16:25 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 02:41 +0200
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 00:30 -0500
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 23:08 -0700
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 09:03 -0500
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-22 18:29 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-22 11:51 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:05 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-23 09:25 -0500
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:08 +0000
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 22:30 -0700
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 23:36 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 09:29 -0700
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-23 23:48 +0200
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 09:46 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 09:21 -0500
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:15 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-04 13:55 +0200
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ap> - 2018-08-04 13:05 +0000
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-04 15:30 +0200
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimde.as> - 2018-08-04 13:45 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-21 07:08 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-21 14:21 +0000
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-21 16:47 +0200
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 02:01 +0100
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-22 01:24 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 08:23 +0100
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 10:30 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 13:55 +0100
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 21:30 +0200
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 02:07 +0100
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 03:19 +0200
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 06:40 -0700
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-23 14:13 +0000
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-23 16:55 +0200
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 08:16 +0100
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 11:30 +0200
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultane, the ball reaches me,> in about 4 units of time, while it reaches me in about 8 units of time if I,> run away at 1 unit of length per unit time, while the ball is traveling at 2,> units of length per unit time (twice as fast as me). (All as measured by you.),> ,> And if I run towards the ball, it reaches me earlier than if I stay put.,> (Drawing the corresponding diagram is left as an exercise to the reader.),> ,>>> While traveling, the signal also has to catch up with the destination in the,>>> first case,,>>,>> Indeed it does, which is why the light path is r_AB + v*(t_B - t_A) and,>> not just r_AB as represented in Einstein equations above.ity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 08:52 +0100
                    Relativity of simultaneity (RoS) (was: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS)) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 12:34 +0200
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:10 +0100
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 12:50 +0200
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 12:37 +0100
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 14:24 +0200
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 18:34 +0100
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 20:09 +0200
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:17 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 20:28 +0100
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 03:22 +0100
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-24 04:38 +0200
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 01:02 -0500
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-23 23:23 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 09:11 +0100
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 06:04 -0700
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 01:54 +0100
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 06:52 -0700
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:14 +0000
                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 13:24 -0700
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 13:34 -0700
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 13:47 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:04 +0000
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:08 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 07:46 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 16:53 +0200
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:33 +0000
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-26 13:39 -0700
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 21:13 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 05:36 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 07:40 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:28 +0000
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 09:14 -0700
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 01:03 +0000
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 21:20 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 12:13 +0000
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 05:27 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 07:29 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 07:41 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:21 +0000
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:36 +0000
                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 09:19 -0700
                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 17:20 +0000
                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 17:49 +0000
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 20:13 +0200
                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 15:00 -0700
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:25 -0700
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:39 +0000
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 06:37 -0700
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 14:05 +0000
                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 09:25 -0700
                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 17:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 14:30 -0700
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 22:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-29 08:06 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 02:38 +0000
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-30 06:00 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 01:47 +0000
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:39 +0000
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 16:05 -0700
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:32 +0000
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:29 +0000
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 20:29 -0500
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:35 -0700
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:13 +0100
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-26 04:54 -0700
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:49 +0100
                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-26 09:56 -0700
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:01 +0100
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-26 16:16 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:44 +0100
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 05:42 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:26 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 07:44 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 16:51 +0100
                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:00 -0700
                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 14:53 -0700
                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:39 +0000
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 16:00 -0700
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:23 +0000
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 02:35 +0000
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 06:22 -0700
                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 14:00 +0000
                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 09:20 -0700
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 17:36 +0000
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 14:33 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 22:44 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 10:11 +0100
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 12:03 +0200
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 14:19 +0100
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 17:27 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 18:54 +0100
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 20:08 +0200
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 19:18 +0100
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 20:22 +0200
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 19:54 +0100
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 21:00 +0200
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-07-30 10:45 +0100
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 20:13 +0100
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 22:28 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 20:52 +0100
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-29 08:24 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 17:28 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-29 08:38 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 18:52 +0200
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-29 13:40 -0700
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-28 02:15 +0200
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 11:13 -0500
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-30 14:27 -0700
                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 21:52 +0000
                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-31 15:22 -0700
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 16:57 -0700
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 07:12 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 15:13 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 15:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 12:07 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 21:47 +0000
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 07:49 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:57 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 14:49 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 15:11 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 17:29 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:13 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-02 17:39 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 09:30 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-08-03 12:47 -0400
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 14:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 22:13 +0000
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 07:10 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-08-03 18:40 -0400
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 07:14 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:46 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 14:20 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 16:07 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-03 21:58 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 07:42 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 12:37 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-04 12:55 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 13:32 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tson Ylor <uo@srsysts.ll> - 2018-08-04 21:15 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 17:23 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-04 22:16 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tson Ylor <uo@srsysts.ll> - 2018-08-05 11:43 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 12:45 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 11:29 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 17:11 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 11:25 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-05 05:44 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-05 09:11 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 12:47 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 20:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-05 15:36 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-05 13:59 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.ho> - 2018-08-05 21:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 06:06 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.ho> - 2018-08-10 17:29 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 15:13 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.ho> - 2018-08-11 10:45 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-05 18:49 -0500
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-05 21:30 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 21:32 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-05 21:57 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-06 09:21 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 16:31 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.hp> - 2018-08-06 16:45 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-07 04:17 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-07 04:27 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 12:33 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-07 05:50 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.hp> - 2018-08-06 16:43 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 11:48 -0700
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-06 11:56 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-06 11:39 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 18:55 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-06 12:11 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 12:11 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 21:29 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-06 21:41 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:50 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-07 05:38 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-07 13:16 +0000
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 13:45 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-07 08:09 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-12 16:29 -0700
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 18:29 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 21:49 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 08:07 -0700
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 13:33 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-13 08:01 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 15:42 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-13 12:26 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 20:31 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-13 21:34 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-14 08:24 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-14 10:43 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-15 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-15 15:09 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 07:56 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 15:05 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 13:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-15 08:32 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 07:33 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 14:58 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 08:21 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 09:11 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 14:57 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 08:40 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-17 05:53 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 06:06 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 13:22 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-17 07:56 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 08:41 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 15:53 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-17 09:36 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-17 21:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 21:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 16:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 09:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 16:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 11:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 15:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-18 11:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cc> - 2018-08-18 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 18:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-18 13:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 21:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cc> - 2018-08-19 11:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-19 08:04 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 15:08 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 08:51 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 10:29 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 07:53 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 15:05 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 08:26 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 17:27 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 11:36 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-16 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-16 11:04 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 14:48 -0700
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-13 14:34 +0000
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 17:30 +0000
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 01:45 +0000
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 07:13 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 15:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 12:03 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 21:38 +0000
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 07:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:10 -0700
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-01 13:05 -0700
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 13:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-01 22:49 +0200
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 08:06 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-02 15:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 14:09 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 14:31 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 15:00 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 05:50 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 11:50 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 11:57 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 06:29 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 06:45 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 08:48 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 09:36 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:48 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 14:23 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 14:27 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 06:59 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 08:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 10:10 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 07:56 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 05:56 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:09 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 06:58 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 21:54 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 07:04 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-02 14:44 +0000
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:52 -0700
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-10 18:30 +0200
                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.ho> - 2018-08-10 17:24 +0000
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:13 -0700
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-26 10:25 -0500
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 23:28 +0100
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:20 +0000
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 09:33 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-21 10:09 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 17:15 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 12:32 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 12:58 -0700
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 13:12 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 20:23 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 18:06 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-21 21:06 +0000
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 23:20 -0700
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-22 07:39 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-22 18:00 +0200
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 07:28 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-23 21:36 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 05:46 -0700
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 07:12 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 14:14 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 07:59 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 08:15 -0700
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 08:46 -0700
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 15:56 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 09:24 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 17:32 +0000
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 14:07 -0700
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:18 +0000
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 15:56 +0000
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:41 +0100
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:33 +0000
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 20:35 -0500
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:25 +0100
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-25 05:05 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 09:20 -0700
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 17:25 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 08:20 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 10:45 -0700

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#468044

FromLovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl>
Date2018-08-16 18:40 +0000
Message-ID<pl4gfr$128e$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#468042
kenseto wrote:

>> > Moron, I picked up the term probability wave from one of Tom’s post.
>> 
>> That’s fine, but he didn’t say that the electron becomes a probability
>> wave, and he didn’t say the probability wave collapses to become a real
>> electron. Only you said that. You heard “probability wave” from Tom
>> without knowing what that means, and the you just threw the term out in
>> a sentence you made up, hoping it would make sense. It didn’t.
> 
> Moron, look up ‘collapse the wave function’ in Wikipedia. Gee you are so
> fucking stupid.

A wave never collapses, but superpositioned by something else to become a 
zero. See Poles and Zeros in s-plane, and probably you learn something. In 
any case, without your own Roy Masters, you'll never change physics.

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#468036

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-08-16 11:04 -0700
Message-ID<07c6c842-0431-4fe3-b23c-8540ed3df0af@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468005
kenseto escrito 

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 1:29:15 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote: 
> On Monday, August 13, 2018 at 3:26:48 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote: 
> > On Monday, August 13, 2018 at 11:42:27 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: 
> 
> > > Yes he did. It doesn’t have to be wholly new, independent of prior work. 
> > > ALL new theories have built on the prior work of others. Newton did that 
> > > and wrote about it. So did Copernicus. So did Planck. So did Bohr. So did 
> > > Einstein. 
> > 
> > 
> > No, he didn’t. He used the existing wave-model to develop 
> > his equation and then he concluded that the electron become 
> > probability waves and these probability waves reconstituted 
> > into a real electron. 
> 
> No one (except perhaps you) claim that the electron becomes a 
> probability wave. 

Tom Roberts did. 
If the electron does not become a probabilitistic wave function then you can predict its location on the screen 100% but you can’t. You can only predict the probability of the electron land on a specific location on the screen. 

Copenhagen Interpretation is total Brain Fart Magic Crap

The bulk modulus & wave speed & fluid Solution & pilot wave Theory applies 

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#468298

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-18 14:48 -0700
Message-ID<1b8b270b-d9fa-4eeb-afdd-a90c3ee27302@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468005
On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 10:53:46 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 1:29:15 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> > On Monday, August 13, 2018 at 3:26:48 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> > > No, he didn’t. He used the existing wave-model to develop
> > > his equation and then he concluded that the electron become
> > > probability waves and these probability waves reconstituted
> > > into a real electron.
> > 
> > No one (except perhaps you) claim that the electron becomes a
> > probability wave.
> 
> Tom Roberts did.
Reference please?

> If the electron does not become a probabilitistic wave
> function then you can predict its location on the screen
> 100% but you can’t. You can only predict the probability
> of the electron land on a specific location on the screen.

Just because an electron has a property associated with it
does not mean it becomes theat property, e.g., an electron
also has mass but it is incorrect to say an electron becomes
mass.

> > 
> > > These sound like the old added epicycles invented to
> > >  explain the observed orbit of planets around the sun.
> > 
> > No his discovery was, like the discovery of relativity,
> > something unique.
> > 
> > This might interest readers:
> > 
> >  Scully added that understanding the history of both the
> >  science and the scientists involved can help in providing
> >  a deeper appreciation of the subject. In this way, the
> >  authors of the current paper are building on Schrödinger's
> >  own revolutionary discovery.
> > 
> >  "Schrödinger was breaking new ground and did the heroic
> >  job of getting the right equation," Scully said. "How you
> >  get the right equation, is less important than getting it.
> >  He did such a wonderful job of then deriving the hydrogen
> >  atom wave function and much more. So did he understand
> >  what he had? You bet, he was really right on target.
> >  What we are trying to do is to understand more deeply
> >  the connection between classical and quantum mechanics
> >  by looking at things from different points of view,
> >  getting his result in different ways."
> > 
> > Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2013-04-schrodinger-equation.html#jCp
> > 
[]
> > Still waiting for ANY calculation to come from your theory.
> > Patiently yours,
> >  Ed Prochak

Waiting even longer for you to actually calculate something.
Kindly,
Ed

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#467719

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-08-13 14:34 +0000
Message-ID<pks4ts$va5$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#467662
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> Science doesn't work that way. One doesn't start with the math and say, ok,
>> here is what's going in behind the scenes of the math. One starts with a
>> physical explanation and then develops the math from that. You haven't
>> developed the math from your ideas and so you don't have a physical theory.

>So you think that Schrodinger dreamt up the probability wave for the 
>electron and then sat down and developed his Schrodinger equations based 
>on the the existence of probability waves? I don't think so.

If you actually read up on the history of physics or Schrodinger, you'd
learn that's largely what happened. Schrodinger was a real scientist so he
used observations and the ideas of previous physicists to come up with a
physical description. From this he was able to derive some differential
equations and initial conditions. He found solutions to the differential
equations which are the Schrodinger Wave Equations. (Have you even heard
of differential equations, Stupid Ken?)  The Schrodinger Wave Equations 
can make all kinds of predictions. Meanwhile, you have provided no math
equations at all for your failed Model Mechanics, which will be quickly
forgotten as useless.

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#466753

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 17:30 +0000
Message-ID<pk23ft$1gn5$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#466735
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 5:49:56 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 7:12:08 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 7:57:03 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 3:22:06 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
>>>>>>>> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
>>>>>>>> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
>>>>>> decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
>>>>>> What’s the excuse for not doing that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
>>>> 
>>>> This is not mystique, it's just a description of the relevant object
>>>> done in a metaphoric English. If you want the full truth, you need to
>>>> study QFT. There is no other way.
>>>> 
>>>> You'll remain endlessly puzzled unless you learn the subject.
>>> 
>>> Physicists become mathematicians.....they invented equations and then
>>> invented mystique processes or objects to explain their equations.
>> 
>> You are talking like all the carckpots here: "I don't understand this,
>> therefore it's irrelevant".
>> 
>> This ludicrous attitude is common around here, as it's really the only
>> way for you guys to obtain the ticket to play: simply DEFINE any obstacles
>> to understanding as unimportant. 
> 
> Idiot I did nothing of the sort. I pointed out that mathematic without
> physical constraint will lead to abstract situations that will, in turn,
> lead to an abstract  universe that is not accord to our current universe.
> It’s time for physicists and mathematicians to wake up and realize that
> physical constraint in combination with math is the best way to do
> frontier physics development. 

Lol. Someone completely uneducated in physics is telling physicists to wake
up and realize that an uneducated person’s preferences are the best way to
do physics. 

> I did that and the result is Model Mechanics. A book on Model Mechanics
> is available in the following link:
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> 
> 
>> One beloved trick in that vein is to
>> start using the word "mathematics" as a... pejorative. Ed Lake does
>> the same thing, as did countless people posting relativity "critiques"
>> here over the years.
>> 
>> It's all junk. All of it.
>> 
>> --
>> Jan
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466402

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-01 01:45 +0000
Message-ID<pjr3bu$3uu$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#466377
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
>>>> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
>>>> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
>>>> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
>>> 
>>> You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
>> 
>> What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
>> decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
>> What’s the excuse for not doing that?
> 
> Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:

There’s no mystique in what he said. It follows what’s written in tons of
books. 

Are you expecting to be able to understand what he says without reading
background material? Why?

> 
>> One can say that a photon is a wave packet, but the wave of which it is a packet 
>> is NOT light, it is a packet of a probability wave. The photon itself is the 
>> light. Note this is still speaking rather loosely. 
> 
>> More importantly, photons (and other quantum objects) also exhibit properties 
>> that NEITHER (classical) waves nor (classical) particles have, such as spin, 
>> coherence, and entanglement. 
> 
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466440

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-01 07:13 -0700
Message-ID<9b4dfe5d-e66e-42cc-aa34-bd9c0ca6e0cf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466402
On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 9:45:38 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
> >>>> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> >>>>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
> >>>> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
> >>>> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
> >>> 
> >>> You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
> >> 
> >> What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
> >> decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
> >> What’s the excuse for not doing that?
> > 
> > Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
> 
> There’s no mystique in what he said. It follows what’s written in tons of
> books. 
> 
> Are you expecting to be able to understand what he says without reading
> background material? Why?

Read my post answering Jan’s post.

> 
> > 
> >> One can say that a photon is a wave packet, but the wave of which it is a packet 
> >> is NOT light, it is a packet of a probability wave. The photon itself is the 
> >> light. Note this is still speaking rather loosely. 
> > 
> >> More importantly, photons (and other quantum objects) also exhibit properties 
> >> that NEITHER (classical) waves nor (classical) particles have, such as spin, 
> >> coherence, and entanglement. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466453

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-01 15:14 +0000
Message-ID<pjsino$gue$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#466440
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 9:45:38 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
>>>>>> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
>>>>>> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
>>>> 
>>>> What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
>>>> decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
>>>> What’s the excuse for not doing that?
>>> 
>>> Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
>> 
>> There’s no mystique in what he said. It follows what’s written in tons of
>> books. 
>> 
>> Are you expecting to be able to understand what he says without reading
>> background material? Why?
> 
> Read my post answering Jan’s post.

I did. Doesn’t address my question. Why are you expecting to understand
something you’re not educated about?

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> One can say that a photon is a wave packet, but the wave of which it is a packet 
>>>> is NOT light, it is a packet of a probability wave. The photon itself is the 
>>>> light. Note this is still speaking rather loosely. 
>>> 
>>>> More importantly, photons (and other quantum objects) also exhibit properties 
>>>> that NEITHER (classical) waves nor (classical) particles have, such as spin, 
>>>> coherence, and entanglement. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466491

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-01 12:03 -0700
Message-ID<d535d72e-827a-4867-b5d3-7814efa3d7e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466453
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:14:03 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 9:45:38 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
> >>>>>> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> >>>>>>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
> >>>>>> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
> >>>>>> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
> >>>> decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
> >>>> What’s the excuse for not doing that?
> >>> 
> >>> Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
> >> 
> >> There’s no mystique in what he said. It follows what’s written in tons of
> >> books. 
> >> 
> >> Are you expecting to be able to understand what he says without reading
> >> background material? Why?
> > 
> > Read my post answering Jan’s post.
> 
> I did. Doesn’t address my question. Why are you expecting to understand
> something you’re not educated about?

You are a moron....wasting my time.
> 
> > 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>>> One can say that a photon is a wave packet, but the wave of which it is a packet 
> >>>> is NOT light, it is a packet of a probability wave. The photon itself is the 
> >>>> light. Note this is still speaking rather loosely. 
> >>> 
> >>>> More importantly, photons (and other quantum objects) also exhibit properties 
> >>>> that NEITHER (classical) waves nor (classical) particles have, such as spin, 
> >>>> coherence, and entanglement. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466530

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-01 21:38 +0000
Message-ID<pjt99e$1ogd$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#466491
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:14:03 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 9:45:38 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
>>>>>>>> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
>>>>>>>> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
>>>>>> decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
>>>>>> What’s the excuse for not doing that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
>>>> 
>>>> There’s no mystique in what he said. It follows what’s written in tons of
>>>> books. 
>>>> 
>>>> Are you expecting to be able to understand what he says without reading
>>>> background material? Why?
>>> 
>>> Read my post answering Jan’s post.
>> 
>> I did. Doesn’t address my question. Why are you expecting to understand
>> something you’re not educated about?
> 
> You are a moron....wasting my time.

Standard response that you give when you realize what a fool you’re being?

>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> One can say that a photon is a wave packet, but the wave of which it is a packet 
>>>>>> is NOT light, it is a packet of a probability wave. The photon itself is the 
>>>>>> light. Note this is still speaking rather loosely. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> More importantly, photons (and other quantum objects) also exhibit properties 
>>>>>> that NEITHER (classical) waves nor (classical) particles have, such as spin, 
>>>>>> coherence, and entanglement. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> 



-- 
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#466622

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-02 07:00 -0700
Message-ID<036738b8-f9f9-4b9d-a27f-1b779b39ba8d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466530
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:38:57 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:14:03 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 9:45:38 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
> >>>>>>>> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
> >>>>>>>> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
> >>>>>> decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
> >>>>>> What’s the excuse for not doing that?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
> >>>> 
> >>>> There’s no mystique in what he said. It follows what’s written in tons of
> >>>> books. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Are you expecting to be able to understand what he says without reading
> >>>> background material? Why?
> >>> 
> >>> Read my post answering Jan’s post.
> >> 
> >> I did. Doesn’t address my question. Why are you expecting to understand
> >> something you’re not educated about?
> > 
> > You are a moron....wasting my time.
> 
> Standard response that you give when you realize what a fool you’re being?

All your posts are content free......so there is nothing to response to.

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#466493

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-01 12:10 -0700
Message-ID<269af2c6-a135-4bab-8b97-1af09ea73f9c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466377
On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 6:22:06 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
> > >> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > >>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
> > >> 
> > >> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
> > >> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
> > >> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
> > > 
> > > You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
> > 
> > What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
> > decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
> > What’s the excuse for not doing that?
> 
> Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
> 
> >One can say that a photon is a wave packet, but the wave of which it is a packet 
> >is NOT light, it is a packet of a probability wave. The photon itself is the 
> >light. Note this is still speaking rather loosely. 
> 
> >More importantly, photons (and other quantum objects) also exhibit properties 
> >that NEITHER (classical) waves nor (classical) particles have, such as spin, 
> >coherence, and entanglement.

Only mysterious to the uninformed. Unfortunately, some
higher level mathematics is required. I think, Mr. Seto,
that since you prefer not to do any mathematics, this
must seem mystical to you.

Ed

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#466502

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-08-01 13:05 -0700
Message-ID<c9503fec-d921-4b7f-a949-912e464b663e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466493
On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:10:29 UTC+2, Edward Prochak  wrote:

> Only mysterious to the uninformed. Unfortunately, some
> higher level mathematics is required. 

Speaking of mathematics, it's always good to remind
that your idiot guru had to reject its oldest,
very important part, as id didn't want to cooperate
with his madness.

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#466514

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-01 13:42 -0700
Message-ID<69f3a98d-b4ef-412f-a2ab-92245ced26a2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466493
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:10:29 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 6:22:06 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > > kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
> > > >> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > > >>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
> > > >> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
> > > >> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
> > > > 
> > > > You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
> > > 
> > > What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
> > > decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
> > > What’s the excuse for not doing that?
> > 
> > Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
> > 
> > >One can say that a photon is a wave packet, but the wave of which it is a packet 
> > >is NOT light, it is a packet of a probability wave. The photon itself is the 
> > >light. Note this is still speaking rather loosely. 
> > 
> > >More importantly, photons (and other quantum objects) also exhibit properties 
> > >that NEITHER (classical) waves nor (classical) particles have, such as spin, 
> > >coherence, and entanglement.
> 
> Only mysterious to the uninformed. Unfortunately, some
> higher level mathematics is required. I think, Mr. Seto,
> that since you prefer not to do any mathematics, this
> must seem mystical to you.
> 
> Ed

What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.
In any case, it is beneath me to do anything that you asked me to do.
In any case, physical description is more important than math. 

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#466516

FromPython <python@python.invalid>
Date2018-08-01 22:49 +0200
Message-ID<5b621ce9$0$15162$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#466514
Senile kook kenseto wrote:
> What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.
> In any case, it is beneath me to do anything that you asked me to do.

In any case you have never done ONE SINGLE calculation from your
so-called theory in more than twenty years, NOT ONE.

> In any case, physical description is more important than math.

Sensible theories provide BOTH. You provide no calculation at all
and a utterly fallacious model, as you've shown when you completely
goofed about the idiotic "tangential force" keeping the Moon in orbit.

You are a huge failure, Mr Seto, a complete failure.

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#466629

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-02 08:06 -0700
Message-ID<4695cada-1b76-495b-8ed0-a27cac9e3157@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466516
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:49:47 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> Senile kook kenseto wrote:
> > What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.
> > In any case, it is beneath me to do anything that you asked me to do.
> 
> In any case you have never done ONE SINGLE calculation from your
> so-called theory in more than twenty years, NOT ONE.

Moron, my equations call for data that are not available readily.

> 
> > In any case, physical description is more important than math.
> 
> Sensible theories provide BOTH. You provide no calculation at all
> and a utterly fallacious model, as you've shown when you completely
> goofed about the idiotic “tangential force" keeping the Moon in orbit.

Moron if gravity is a single attractive force alone then the moon is not able to maintain a stable orbit. Since the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
1.  An attractive force derived from that the earth and the moon are expanding in the same direction in the E-Matrix as the universe expands.

2. A repulsive effect derive from that the earth and the moon are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix.

3. Gravity as we know it is the combined result of the above opposing forces.

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#466630

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-08-02 15:16 +0000
Message-ID<pjv78e$2bp$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#466629
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:49:47 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
>> Senile kook kenseto wrote:
>> > What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.
>> > In any case, it is beneath me to do anything that you asked me to do.
>>
>> In any case you have never done ONE SINGLE calculation from your
>> so-called theory in more than twenty years, NOT ONE.

>Moron, my equations call for data that are not available readily.

So you admit that you have NO data to support your claims!
How can you call it a "theory" if it has no data to support it? Remember,
science is all about the data!

>> Sensible theories provide BOTH. You provide no calculation at all
>> and a utterly fallacious model, as you've shown when you completely
>> goofed about the idiotic "tangential force" keeping the Moon in orbit.

>Moron if gravity is a single attractive force alone then the moon is not 
>able to maintain a stable orbit. Since the moon is able to maintain a 
>stable orbit then gravity if not simply an attractive force alone.

So show us the math calculations that demonstrates this for the earth and
moon!

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#466659

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-02 14:09 -0700
Message-ID<8860d424-811a-415f-8519-efd824e89ce0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466629
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:

> Moron if gravity is a single attractive force alone then the moon is not able to maintain a stable orbit. 

Not according to Newton's laws.

In the days of mechanical clocks, arguably the best were the Shortt 
Synchronome series of clocks. A master pendulum swinging in vacuum
would control the operation of a slave, which controlled the actual
mechanical operation of the clock mechanism. In vacuum, the master
pendulum could swing for days, as opposed to mere minutes for the
slave pendulum.

Friction made all the difference.

> Since the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:

Not according to accurate simulations of the Earth-Moon system. There
is literally "no room" for repulsive and/or transverse forces. Any such
added forces would DECREASE the accuracy of the simulations.

> 1.  An attractive force derived from that the earth and the moon are expanding in the same direction in the E-Matrix as the universe expands.
> 
> 2. A repulsive effect derive from that the earth and the moon are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix.
> 
> 3. Gravity as we know it is the combined result of the above opposing forces.

No.

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#466662

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-02 14:31 -0700
Message-ID<5070aeb0-5806-44b4-b754-2dac18ff3c0e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466659
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 5:09:12 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > Moron if gravity is a single attractive force alone then the moon is not able to maintain a stable orbit. 
> 
> Not according to Newton's laws.
> 
> In the days of mechanical clocks, arguably the best were the Shortt 
> Synchronome series of clocks. A master pendulum swinging in vacuum
> would control the operation of a slave, which controlled the actual
> mechanical operation of the clock mechanism. In vacuum, the master
> pendulum could swing for days, as opposed to mere minutes for the
> slave pendulum.
> 
> Friction made all the difference.
> 
> > Since the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
> 
> Not according to accurate simulations of the Earth-Moon system. There
> is literally "no room" for repulsive and/or transverse forces. Any such
> added forces would DECREASE the accuracy of the simulations.

That’s because you made some wrong assumptions to construct your simulations.

> 
> > 1.  An attractive force derived from that the earth and the moon are expanding in the same direction in the E-Matrix as the universe expands.
> > 
> > 2. A repulsive effect derive from that the earth and the moon are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix.
> > 
> > 3. Gravity as we know it is the combined result of the above opposing forces.
> 
> No.

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#466665

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-02 15:00 -0700
Message-ID<fe88c06b-09ad-445e-a485-b270e10f77d8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466662
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 4:31:20 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 5:09:12 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:

> > > Since the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
> > 
> > Not according to accurate simulations of the Earth-Moon system. There
> > is literally "no room" for repulsive and/or transverse forces. Any such
> > added forces would DECREASE the accuracy of the simulations.
> 
> That’s because you made some wrong assumptions to construct your simulations.

Can you write for me an improved simulation that includes your 
additional terms?

No, you can't?

Well, then...

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