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The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS)

Started bykenseto <setoken@att.net>
First post2018-07-21 05:44 -0700
Last post2018-08-03 10:45 -0700
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  The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 05:44 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:25 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-21 06:35 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-21 08:56 -0500
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 07:08 -0700
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 10:01 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 17:15 +0000
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 17:15 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 10:23 -0700
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 12:56 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 20:23 +0000
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 13:31 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 23:13 -0700
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-22 08:01 -0700
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-22 15:25 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:40 +0100
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-23 05:38 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-23 14:29 +0000
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-23 12:48 -0500
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-23 19:04 +0000
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-27 12:04 +0000
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 14:47 -0700
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 00:07 -0700
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 02:19 -0700
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:20 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 13:08 -0500
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 18:30 +0000
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 11:46 -0700
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 19:04 +0000
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 12:09 -0700
                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 20:56 +0000
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 15:46 -0700
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:20 -0700
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 23:39 -0700
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 09:36 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 16:08 -0700
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:21 -0700
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 23:42 -0700
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 09:40 -0700
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 11:42 -0700
                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 12:46 -0700
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 20:21 -0700
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 22:20 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 23:49 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 08:37 -0700
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendm.dp> - 2018-07-26 11:11 +0000
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:24 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:39 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-27 11:52 +0000
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 04:39 +0100
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-23 20:55 -0700
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 04:46 +0000
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 00:52 -0500
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:27 -0700
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:49 +0000
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:50 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 13:17 -0500
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 18:27 +0000
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 13:24 +0100
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 12:52 +0000
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 06:14 -0700
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:46 +0000
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 12:27 -0700
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 05:34 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 15:29 -0700
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-25 07:58 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-21 23:59 -0500
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-22 13:46 +0000
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-22 17:59 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-22 18:25 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-22 07:48 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-22 18:01 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 07:29 -0700
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-23 21:35 +0000
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 12:15 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 19:30 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 16:20 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-21 21:40 +0200
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 19:50 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 00:46 +0200
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-22 13:42 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 16:25 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 02:41 +0200
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 00:30 -0500
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 23:08 -0700
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 09:03 -0500
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-22 18:29 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-22 11:51 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:05 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-23 09:25 -0500
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:08 +0000
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 22:30 -0700
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 23:36 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 09:29 -0700
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-23 23:48 +0200
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 09:46 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 09:21 -0500
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:15 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-04 13:55 +0200
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ap> - 2018-08-04 13:05 +0000
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-04 15:30 +0200
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimde.as> - 2018-08-04 13:45 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-21 07:08 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-21 14:21 +0000
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-21 16:47 +0200
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 02:01 +0100
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-22 01:24 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 08:23 +0100
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 10:30 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 13:55 +0100
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 21:30 +0200
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 02:07 +0100
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 03:19 +0200
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 06:40 -0700
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-23 14:13 +0000
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-23 16:55 +0200
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 08:16 +0100
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 11:30 +0200
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultane, the ball reaches me,> in about 4 units of time, while it reaches me in about 8 units of time if I,> run away at 1 unit of length per unit time, while the ball is traveling at 2,> units of length per unit time (twice as fast as me). (All as measured by you.),> ,> And if I run towards the ball, it reaches me earlier than if I stay put.,> (Drawing the corresponding diagram is left as an exercise to the reader.),> ,>>> While traveling, the signal also has to catch up with the destination in the,>>> first case,,>>,>> Indeed it does, which is why the light path is r_AB + v*(t_B - t_A) and,>> not just r_AB as represented in Einstein equations above.ity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 08:52 +0100
                    Relativity of simultaneity (RoS) (was: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS)) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 12:34 +0200
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:10 +0100
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 12:50 +0200
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 12:37 +0100
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 14:24 +0200
                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 18:34 +0100
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 20:09 +0200
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:17 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 20:28 +0100
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 03:22 +0100
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-24 04:38 +0200
                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 01:02 -0500
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-23 23:23 -0700
                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 09:11 +0100
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 06:04 -0700
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 01:54 +0100
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 06:52 -0700
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:14 +0000
                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 13:24 -0700
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 13:34 -0700
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 13:47 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:04 +0000
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:08 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 07:46 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 16:53 +0200
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:33 +0000
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-26 13:39 -0700
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 21:13 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 05:36 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 07:40 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:28 +0000
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 09:14 -0700
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 01:03 +0000
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-26 21:20 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 12:13 +0000
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 05:27 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 07:29 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 07:41 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:21 +0000
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:36 +0000
                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 09:19 -0700
                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 17:20 +0000
                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 17:49 +0000
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 20:13 +0200
                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 15:00 -0700
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:25 -0700
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:39 +0000
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 06:37 -0700
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 14:05 +0000
                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 09:25 -0700
                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 17:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 14:30 -0700
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 22:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-29 08:06 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 02:38 +0000
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-30 06:00 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 01:47 +0000
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:39 +0000
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 16:05 -0700
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:32 +0000
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:29 +0000
                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 20:29 -0500
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:35 -0700
                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:13 +0100
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-26 04:54 -0700
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:49 +0100
                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-26 09:56 -0700
                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:01 +0100
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-26 16:16 -0700
                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:44 +0100
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 05:42 -0700
                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:26 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 07:44 -0700
                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 16:51 +0100
                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:00 -0700
                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 14:53 -0700
                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:39 +0000
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-27 16:00 -0700
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:23 +0000
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 02:35 +0000
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 06:22 -0700
                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 14:00 +0000
                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 09:20 -0700
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 17:36 +0000
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-28 14:33 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 22:44 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 10:11 +0100
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 12:03 +0200
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 14:19 +0100
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 17:27 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 18:54 +0100
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 20:08 +0200
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 19:18 +0100
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 20:22 +0200
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 19:54 +0100
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 21:00 +0200
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-07-30 10:45 +0100
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 20:13 +0100
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 22:28 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 20:52 +0100
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-29 08:24 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 17:28 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-29 08:38 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 18:52 +0200
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-29 13:40 -0700
                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-28 02:15 +0200
                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 11:13 -0500
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-30 14:27 -0700
                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 21:52 +0000
                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-31 15:22 -0700
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 16:57 -0700
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 07:12 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 15:13 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 15:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 12:07 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 21:47 +0000
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 07:49 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:57 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 14:49 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 15:11 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 17:29 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:13 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-02 17:39 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 09:30 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-08-03 12:47 -0400
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 14:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 22:13 +0000
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 07:10 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-08-03 18:40 -0400
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 07:14 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:46 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 14:20 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 16:07 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-03 21:58 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 07:42 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 12:37 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-04 12:55 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 13:32 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tson Ylor <uo@srsysts.ll> - 2018-08-04 21:15 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 17:23 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-04 22:16 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tson Ylor <uo@srsysts.ll> - 2018-08-05 11:43 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 12:45 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 11:29 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 17:11 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 11:25 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-05 05:44 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-05 09:11 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 12:47 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 20:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-05 15:36 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-05 13:59 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.ho> - 2018-08-05 21:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 06:06 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.ho> - 2018-08-10 17:29 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 15:13 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.ho> - 2018-08-11 10:45 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-05 18:49 -0500
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-05 21:30 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 21:32 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-05 21:57 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-06 09:21 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 16:31 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.hp> - 2018-08-06 16:45 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-07 04:17 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-07 04:27 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 12:33 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-07 05:50 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.hp> - 2018-08-06 16:43 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 11:48 -0700
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-06 11:56 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-06 11:39 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 18:55 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-06 12:11 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 12:11 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 21:29 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-06 21:41 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:50 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-07 05:38 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-07 13:16 +0000
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 13:45 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-07 08:09 -0700
                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-12 16:29 -0700
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 18:29 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 21:49 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 08:07 -0700
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 13:33 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-13 08:01 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 15:42 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-13 12:26 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 20:31 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-13 21:34 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-14 08:24 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-14 10:43 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-15 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-15 15:09 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 07:56 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 15:05 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 13:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-15 08:32 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 07:33 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 14:58 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 08:21 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 09:11 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 14:57 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 08:40 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-17 05:53 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 06:06 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 13:22 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-17 07:56 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 08:41 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 15:53 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-17 09:36 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-17 21:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 21:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 16:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 09:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 16:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 11:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 15:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-18 11:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cc> - 2018-08-18 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 18:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-18 13:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 21:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cc> - 2018-08-19 11:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-19 08:04 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 15:08 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 08:51 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 10:29 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 07:53 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 15:05 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 08:26 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 17:27 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-16 11:36 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-16 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-16 11:04 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 14:48 -0700
                                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-13 14:34 +0000
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 17:30 +0000
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 01:45 +0000
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 07:13 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 15:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 12:03 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 21:38 +0000
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 07:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:10 -0700
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-01 13:05 -0700
                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 13:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-01 22:49 +0200
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 08:06 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-02 15:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 14:09 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 14:31 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 15:00 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 05:50 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 11:50 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 11:57 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 06:29 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 06:45 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 08:48 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 09:36 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:48 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 14:23 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 14:27 -0700
                                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 06:59 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 08:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 10:10 -0700
                                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-04 07:56 -0700
                                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 05:56 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:09 -0700
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 06:58 -0700
                                                                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 21:54 +0000
                                                                          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 07:04 -0700
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-02 14:44 +0000
                                                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:52 -0700
                                                              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-10 18:30 +0200
                                                                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.ho> - 2018-08-10 17:24 +0000
                                            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:13 -0700
                                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-26 10:25 -0500
                                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 23:28 +0100
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:20 +0000
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 09:33 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-21 10:09 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 17:15 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 12:32 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 12:58 -0700
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 13:12 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 20:23 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 18:06 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-21 21:06 +0000
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 23:20 -0700
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-22 07:39 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-22 18:00 +0200
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 07:28 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-23 21:36 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 05:46 -0700
      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 07:12 -0700
        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 14:14 +0000
          Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 07:59 -0700
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 08:15 -0700
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 08:46 -0700
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 15:56 +0000
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 09:24 -0700
                    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 17:32 +0000
                      Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 14:07 -0700
                        Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:18 +0000
            Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 15:56 +0000
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:41 +0100
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:33 +0000
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 20:35 -0500
                  Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:25 +0100
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-25 05:05 +0200
              Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-24 09:20 -0700
                Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 17:25 +0000
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-23 08:20 -0700
    Re: The PoR rejects the bogus concept of Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 10:45 -0700

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#466712

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 05:50 -0700
Message-ID<cbfda295-5b35-4447-bf52-8baede449c0d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466665
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 5:00:08 PM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 4:31:20 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 5:09:12 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > > > Since the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
> > > 
> > > Not according to accurate simulations of the Earth-Moon system. There
> > > is literally "no room" for repulsive and/or transverse forces. Any such
> > > added forces would DECREASE the accuracy of the simulations.
> > 
> > That’s because you made some wrong assumptions to construct your simulations.
> 
> Can you write for me an improved simulation that includes your 
> additional terms?
> 
> No, you can't?
> 
> Well, then...

Speaking of Earth-Moon simulations, you also have to include the Sun as
a major contributor. The remaining planets make but a minor contribution.

Here is a simulation that I did a while back. IIRC, when I checked 
against actual data, I got the apsidal precession rate better than 
96% accurate, even though I simplified the Earth-Moon-Sun as orbiting 
in a single plane.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8XIf0XcrpOcMnAzMVNHajZvM2s

Your turn.

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#466867

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-04 11:50 -0700
Message-ID<2c954ee8-84b3-4dc2-b969-05dc3ce2cbbd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466712
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 7:50:25 AM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:

> Speaking of Earth-Moon simulations, you also have to include the Sun as
> a major contributor. The remaining planets make but a minor contribution.
> 
> Here is a simulation that I did a while back. IIRC, when I checked 
> against actual data, I got the apsidal precession rate better than 
> 96% accurate, even though I simplified the Earth-Moon-Sun as orbiting 
> in a single plane.
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8XIf0XcrpOcMnAzMVNHajZvM2s

Hmmm... Some browsers appear to require a different form of the link,
otherwise you get challenged to log in.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XIf0XcrpOcMnAzMVNHajZvM2s/view

The differences between browsers can be very annoying.

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#466869

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-04 11:57 -0700
Message-ID<20cbc5bf-249a-49a0-ad87-8491080e7839@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466867
On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 1:50:58 PM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 7:50:25 AM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> 
> > Speaking of Earth-Moon simulations, you also have to include the Sun as
> > a major contributor. The remaining planets make but a minor contribution.
> > 
> > Here is a simulation that I did a while back. IIRC, when I checked 
> > against actual data, I got the apsidal precession rate better than 
> > 96% accurate, even though I simplified the Earth-Moon-Sun as orbiting 
> > in a single plane.
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8XIf0XcrpOcMnAzMVNHajZvM2s
> 
> Hmmm... Some browsers appear to require a different form of the link,
> otherwise you get challenged to log in.
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XIf0XcrpOcMnAzMVNHajZvM2s/view
> 
> The differences between browsers can be very annoying.

(Groan) In Safari on an iPhone, the animation does not animate directly
from Google Drive. You have to download first, and then it animates.

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#466715

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-03 06:29 -0700
Message-ID<aef24565-5521-4008-8c50-344061aa4960@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466665
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 6:00:08 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 4:31:20 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 5:09:12 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > > > Since the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
> > > 
> > > Not according to accurate simulations of the Earth-Moon system. There
> > > is literally "no room" for repulsive and/or transverse forces. Any such
> > > added forces would DECREASE the accuracy of the simulations.
> > 
> > That’s because you made some wrong assumptions to construct your simulations.
> 
> Can you write for me an improved simulation that includes your 
> additional terms?

You assumed that only an attractive force is able the moon to maintain a stable orbit....it can’t. Gravity as defined by current physics is a composite force and that’s why the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit.
> 
> No, you can't?
> 
> Well, then...

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#466718

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 06:45 -0700
Message-ID<c0beb778-1a6a-4f9a-86f2-1d87f7494b64@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466715
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 8:29:30 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 6:00:08 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 4:31:20 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 5:09:12 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Since the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
> > > > 
> > > > Not according to accurate simulations of the Earth-Moon system. There
> > > > is literally "no room" for repulsive and/or transverse forces. Any such
> > > > added forces would DECREASE the accuracy of the simulations.
> > > 
> > > That’s because you made some wrong assumptions to construct your simulations.
> > 
> > Can you write for me an improved simulation that includes your 
> > additional terms?
> 
> You assumed that only an attractive force is able the moon to maintain a stable orbit....it can’t. Gravity as defined by current physics is a composite force and that’s why the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit.

So improve on my simulation of the Earth-Moon-Sun system.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8XIf0XcrpOcMnAzMVNHajZvM2s 

As I stated in my other post, my recollection is that my calculation of
the apsidal precession was only about 96% accurate, due to my treating
the Earth-Moon-Sun orbits as all lying in a single plane. 

With your theory, you ought to be able to improve on my results...

...if it is any good, that is...

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#466729

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 08:48 -0700
Message-ID<3152a6f7-4796-4587-bbc4-dc2ae3cfd0bb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466718
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 8:45:12 AM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 8:29:30 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:

> > You assumed that only an attractive force is able the moon to maintain a stable orbit....it can’t. Gravity as defined by current physics is a composite force and that’s why the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit.
> 
> So improve on my simulation of the Earth-Moon-Sun system.
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8XIf0XcrpOcMnAzMVNHajZvM2s 
> 
> As I stated in my other post, my recollection is that my calculation of
> the apsidal precession was only about 96% accurate, due to my treating
> the Earth-Moon-Sun orbits as all lying in a single plane. 
> 
> With your theory, you ought to be able to improve on my results...
> 
> ...if it is any good, that is...

Here is another simulation that I worked out a while back that you could
try out with your theory: The total _Newtonian_ contribution to the 
perihelion precession of Mercury.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8XIf0XcrpOcSmdrY0VUVXh3dkE

If your theory is any good, you should be able to demonstrate the anomalous
contribution to the perihelion precession that is usually accounted for
using general relativity.

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#466736

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-03 09:36 -0700
Message-ID<15bfc6ea-01cf-4b51-85f4-65596f5353cf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466665
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 6:00:08 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 4:31:20 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 5:09:12 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > > > Since the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
> > > 
> > > Not according to accurate simulations of the Earth-Moon system. There
> > > is literally "no room" for repulsive and/or transverse forces. Any such
> > > added forces would DECREASE the accuracy of the simulations.
> > 
> > That’s because you made some wrong assumptions to construct your simulations.
> 
> Can you write for me an improved simulation that includes your 
> additional terms?

Include a term that the moon and the earth are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix--this give rise to a repulsive effect. And gravity as shown in the Newtonian equation is a composite force of an EM attractive force and this repulsive effect.

> 
> No, you can't?
> 
> Well, then...

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#466740

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 09:48 -0700
Message-ID<c404072f-aa8a-48cd-b790-93eaa750bc61@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466736
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:36:12 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 6:00:08 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:

> > Can you write for me an improved simulation that includes your 
> > additional terms?
> 
> Include a term that the moon and the earth are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix--this give rise to a repulsive effect. And gravity as shown in the Newtonian equation is a composite force of an EM attractive force and this repulsive effect.

That's for ***you*** to do. 

I'm not wasting my time on a failed theory.

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#466770

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-03 14:23 -0700
Message-ID<d111dce3-6165-4ce3-a6b9-19eb65ed77ce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466740
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:48:04 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:36:12 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 6:00:08 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> 
> > > Can you write for me an improved simulation that includes your 
> > > additional terms?
> > 
> > Include a term that the moon and the earth are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix--this give rise to a repulsive effect. And gravity as shown in the Newtonian equation is a composite force of an EM attractive force and this repulsive effect.
> 
> That's for ***you*** to do. 

You asked me for an improved simulation and I told you. 

> 
> I'm not wasting my time on a failed theory.

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#466771

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 14:27 -0700
Message-ID<87e98d9d-12ff-438b-9621-76ca4c2ed3f2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466770
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:23:13 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:48:04 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:36:12 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:

> > > Include a term that the moon and the earth are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix--this give rise to a repulsive effect. And gravity as shown in the Newtonian equation is a composite force of an EM attractive force and this repulsive effect.
> > 
> > That's for ***you*** to do. 
> 
> You asked me for an improved simulation and I told you. 

What are your results?

No predictions = no viable theory.

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#466830

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-04 06:59 -0700
Message-ID<48fb25ec-229e-41cc-a78d-93e6c4c8d737@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466771
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 5:27:16 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:23:13 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:48:04 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:36:12 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > > > Include a term that the moon and the earth are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix--this give rise to a repulsive effect. And gravity as shown in the Newtonian equation is a composite force of an EM attractive force and this repulsive effect.
> > > 
> > > That's for ***you*** to do. 
> > 
> > You asked me for an improved simulation and I told you. 
> 
> What are your results?
> 
> No predictions = no viable theory.

The prediction is: If you include the repulsive effect in your simulation you will get stable orbit. I told you I have no clue how to do simulation.

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#466844

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-04 08:34 -0700
Message-ID<de94ef22-57dd-492f-b40a-5c18a201746a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466830
On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 8:59:54 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 5:27:16 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:23:13 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:48:04 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:36:12 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Include a term that the moon and the earth are confined to the divergent structure of the E-Matrix--this give rise to a repulsive effect. And gravity as shown in the Newtonian equation is a composite force of an EM attractive force and this repulsive effect.
> > > > 
> > > > That's for ***you*** to do. 
> > > 
> > > You asked me for an improved simulation and I told you. 
> > 
> > What are your results?
> > 
> > No predictions = no viable theory.
> 
> The prediction is: If you include the repulsive effect in your simulation you will get stable orbit. I told you I have no clue how to do simulation.

I get stable orbits without repulsive effects.

If I add repulsive effects, the orbits will be destabilized.

Your proposed repulsive effects absolutely do not work.

If you want to contradict me on this, try learning to do simulations.

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#466747

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 10:10 -0700
Message-ID<a839d822-de05-47a4-a357-744f53924a90@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466629
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:07:01 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:49:47 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> > Senile kook kenseto wrote:
> > > What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.
> > > In any case, it is beneath me to do anything that you asked me to do.
> > 
> > In any case you have never done ONE SINGLE calculation from your
> > so-called theory in more than twenty years, NOT ONE.
> 
> Moron, my equations call for data that are not available readily.

You mean you do not know everything? Good to know.

Ah, so my attempts to figure out your force of gravity equations
did not fail because I did not understand the equation?
There is more data needed? More parameters to the equation?
What's missing?


> 
> > 
> > > In any case, physical description is more important than math.
> > 
> > Sensible theories provide BOTH. You provide no calculation at all
> > and a utterly fallacious model, as you've shown when you completely
> > goofed about the idiotic “tangential force" keeping the Moon in orbit.
> 
> Moron if gravity is a single attractive force alone then the
> moon is not able to maintain a stable orbit. Since the moon
> is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply
> an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an
> attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
> 1.  An attractive force derived from that the earth and the
> moon are expanding in the same direction in the E-Matrix
> as the universe expands.

Uh, which direction is that? Right? North? Up? Stage left?

> 
> 2. A repulsive effect derive from that the earth and
> the moon are confined to the divergent structure of
> the E-Matrix.

Meaning the matrix does not expand? Or it's expansion
changes direction (diverges)?

> 
> 3. Gravity as we know it is the combined result of
> the above opposing forces.

You need more support before coming to this conclusion.
How does this lead to your reformulated force of
gravity equation?

I'm still trying to give you the benefit of the doubt,
but you aren't helping matters.

Ed

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#466839

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-04 07:56 -0700
Message-ID<b1089715-ac4a-4f6d-8ac0-e420f36d06f5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466747
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 1:10:06 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:07:01 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:49:47 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> > > Senile kook kenseto wrote:
> > > > What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.
> > > > In any case, it is beneath me to do anything that you asked me to do.
> > > 
> > > In any case you have never done ONE SINGLE calculation from your
> > > so-called theory in more than twenty years, NOT ONE.
> > 
> > Moron, my equations call for data that are not available readily.
> 
> You mean you do not know everything? Good to know.
> 
> Ah, so my attempts to figure out your force of gravity equations
> did not fail because I did not understand the equation?
> There is more data needed? More parameters to the equation?
> What’s missing?

What is the specific about my equation that you don’t understand?

> 
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > In any case, physical description is more important than math.
> > > 
> > > Sensible theories provide BOTH. You provide no calculation at all
> > > and a utterly fallacious model, as you've shown when you completely
> > > goofed about the idiotic “tangential force" keeping the Moon in orbit.
> > 
> > Moron if gravity is a single attractive force alone then the
> > moon is not able to maintain a stable orbit. Since the moon
> > is able to maintain a stable orbit then gravity if not simply
> > an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an
> > attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
> > 1.  An attractive force derived from that the earth and the
> > moon are expanding in the same direction in the E-Matrix
> > as the universe expands.
> 
> Uh, which direction is that? Right? North? Up? Stage left?

In the direction of the Big Bang expansion.

> 
> > 
> > 2. A repulsive effect derive from that the earth and
> > the moon are confined to the divergent structure of
> > the E-Matrix.
> 
> Meaning the matrix does not expand? Or it's expansion
> changes direction (diverges)?

Yes, the E-Matrix is not expanding. The earth and the moon are expanding in the E-Matrix in the same direction that causes an attractive force between them. 

 
> > 3. Gravity as we know it is the combined result of
> > the above opposing forces.
> 
> You need more support before coming to this conclusion.
> How does this lead to your reformulated force of
> gravity equation?

Why? My conclusion is based on my proposed physical model.

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#467497

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-10 05:56 -0700
Message-ID<fbd05b63-8076-4185-a4fe-a1fad06d05b9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466839
On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 1:10:06 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:

> > 
> > You mean you do not know everything? Good to know.
> > 
> > Ah, so my attempts to figure out your force of gravity equations
> > did not fail because I did not understand the equation?
> > There is more data needed? More parameters to the equation?
> > What’s missing?
> 
> What is the specific about my equation that you don’t understand?

You do not define all the variables. What goes in for those
 J variables for a start. In place of that you could do
just a sample calculation, which I have asked you to do many times.
A simple example like what does your gravity equation calculate
for a 100 gram ball 1 m from a 10,000 gram ball?

> > > an attractive force alone. It is a combined result of an
> > > attractive force and a repulsive effect as follows:
> > > 1.  An attractive force derived from that the earth and the
> > > moon are expanding in the same direction in the E-Matrix
> > > as the universe expands.
> > 
> > Uh, which direction is that? Right? North? Up? Stage left?
> 
> In the direction of the Big Bang expansion.

Not really an answer.
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 2. A repulsive effect derive from that the earth and
> > > the moon are confined to the divergent structure of
> > > the E-Matrix.
> > 
> > Meaning the matrix does not expand? Or it's expansion
> > changes direction (diverges)?
> 
> Yes, the E-Matrix is not expanding. The earth and the moon are expanding in the E-Matrix in the same direction that causes an attractive force between them. 

That doesn't answer the question: what is the
"divergent structure of the E-matrix"?????
> 
>  
> > > 3. Gravity as we know it is the combined result of
> > > the above opposing forces.
> > 
> > You need more support before coming to this conclusion.
> > How does this lead to your reformulated force of
> > gravity equation?
> 
> Why? My conclusion is based on my proposed physical model.


you seem to think so, but you haven't demonstrated that
conclusion, not here and not in you paper.

So a sample calculation. then maybe you might make some progress
in showing where your theory actually works. Remember that
all theories are wrong, but some are useful.  You have not yet
shown your theory to be useful in any domain.

Ed

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#466520

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-01 14:09 -0700
Message-ID<c3fc8e0b-862e-4767-9007-cd79ac5a0ef8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466514
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:42:05 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:

> What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.

I could start off with a basic particle-in-a-box. It's not at all 
realistic, but realistic examples do not have analytical solutions
to them, but _always_ require numerical solution. That means writing
computer programs, and I'm already busy enough working on the
magnetic orbit experiment. Have you been following my progress?

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#466621

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-02 06:58 -0700
Message-ID<879133c1-aee7-4b77-9f6f-5905238dc96d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466520
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:09:31 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:42:05 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.
> 
> I could start off with a basic particle-in-a-box. It's not at all 
> realistic, but realistic examples do not have analytical solutions
> to them, but _always_ require numerical solution. That means writing
> computer programs, and I'm already busy enough working on the
> magnetic orbit experiment. Have you been following my progress?

I was not talking to you.

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#466536

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-01 21:54 +0000
Message-ID<pjta73$1pn8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#466514
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:10:29 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 6:22:06 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
>>>>>> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
>>>>>> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
>>>> 
>>>> What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
>>>> decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
>>>> What’s the excuse for not doing that?
>>> 
>>> Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
>>> 
>>>> One can say that a photon is a wave packet, but the wave of which it is a packet 
>>>> is NOT light, it is a packet of a probability wave. The photon itself is the 
>>>> light. Note this is still speaking rather loosely. 
>>> 
>>>> More importantly, photons (and other quantum objects) also exhibit properties 
>>>> that NEITHER (classical) waves nor (classical) particles have, such as spin, 
>>>> coherence, and entanglement.
>> 
>> Only mysterious to the uninformed. Unfortunately, some
>> higher level mathematics is required. I think, Mr. Seto,
>> that since you prefer not to do any mathematics, this
>> must seem mystical to you.
>> 
>> Ed
> 
> What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.

Oodles and oodles. Have you picked up a textbook? FILLED with calculations.
What world do you live on where current theory has no calculations?

> In any case, it is beneath me to do anything that you asked me to do.

It is beneath you to do what all scientists do? 

> In any case, physical description is more important than math. 

Not to physicists. If you don’t do the math, then you haven’t got a theory.




-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466623

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-08-02 07:04 -0700
Message-ID<1a5b4da9-abcb-4df6-91d4-cc543777e7cd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466536
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:54:47 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:10:29 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 6:22:06 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
> >>>>>> On 7/27/18 7:15 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> >>>>>>> The photon is a *quantum* particle. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Yes. IMHO this is better stated as "quantum object" (avoids misconstruing what 
> >>>>>> "particle" means). The definitive definition of a photon is given by its 
> >>>>>> propagator and vertex functions in the perturbation approximation to QED.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> You can get rid of the quantum object mystique. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> What mystique?? This has been figured out since the 1950’s. That’s SIX
> >>>> decades ago. All it takes to wipe out ignorance (not mystique) is reading.
> >>>> What’s the excuse for not doing that?
> >>> 
> >>> Note the following mystique properties of a photon according to Tom:
> >>> 
> >>>> One can say that a photon is a wave packet, but the wave of which it is a packet 
> >>>> is NOT light, it is a packet of a probability wave. The photon itself is the 
> >>>> light. Note this is still speaking rather loosely. 
> >>> 
> >>>> More importantly, photons (and other quantum objects) also exhibit properties 
> >>>> that NEITHER (classical) waves nor (classical) particles have, such as spin, 
> >>>> coherence, and entanglement.
> >> 
> >> Only mysterious to the uninformed. Unfortunately, some
> >> higher level mathematics is required. I think, Mr. Seto,
> >> that since you prefer not to do any mathematics, this
> >> must seem mystical to you.
> >> 
> >> Ed
> > 
> > What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.
> 
> Oodles and oodles. Have you picked up a textbook? FILLED with calculations.
> What world do you live on where current theory has no calculations?

Moron, I was talking to ED/

> 
> > In any case, it is beneath me to do anything that you asked me to do.
> 
> It is beneath you to do what all scientists do? 
> 
> > In any case, physical description is more important than math. 
> 
> Not to physicists. If you don’t do the math, then you haven’t got a theory.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-08-02 14:44 +0000
Message-ID<pjv5d8$cp8$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#466623
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:54:47 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:10:29 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:

>> >> Only mysterious to the uninformed. Unfortunately, some
>> >> higher level mathematics is required. I think, Mr. Seto,
>> >> that since you prefer not to do any mathematics, this
>> >> must seem mystical to you.

>> >> Ed

>> > What calculations do you have for your theory?....nothing.

>> Oodles and oodles. Have you picked up a textbook? FILLED with calculations.
>> What world do you live on where current theory has no calculations?

>Moron, I was talking to ED/

Stupid Ken, Ed does not own the theory. Ed, Odd and PCH all use the same
theory so it is perfectly valid for any of them to answer for Ed or each
other.

Of course, the _creator_ of the theory had the obligation to do the
calculations when the theory was submitted to science, but he already did
so, many decades ago.  Odd/PCH were just directing you to them.  Of
course, you haven't done ONE SINGLE CALCULATION for your failed IRT, which
means you are no scientist. (Of course, we all know you don't because you
just can't!) You claim that doing that part of science is "beneath you",
something no real scientist would EVER say!

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