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Re: Newton and Galilean relativity

Started byRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
First post2018-06-04 16:46 -0700
Last post2018-07-16 15:44 -0700
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  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 16:46 -0700
    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-04 17:49 -0700
      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 18:54 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 22:06 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-05 05:02 -0700
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 05:24 -0700
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-05 19:31 -0700
                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 23:47 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-06 08:11 -0700
                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-06 15:17 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 09:12 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-06 13:34 -0700
                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:44 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-06 17:39 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:16 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-06 22:43 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 00:00 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 12:29 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 06:41 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 13:53 +0000
                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 12:32 -0700
                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:57 +0000
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-07 08:07 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 12:59 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-07 14:06 -0700
                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 15:21 -0700
                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-07 16:48 -0700
                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 22:10 -0700
                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-07 23:53 -0700
                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 01:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 12:40 +0000
                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:35 -0700
                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-08 18:43 +0200
                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:22 -0700
                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:40 +0000
                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-08 17:52 +0000
                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 22:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:12 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 21:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:30 -0700
                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-08 09:19 -0700
                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 12:46 -0700
                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-08 13:38 -0700
                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:47 -0700
                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 22:33 +0000
                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:24 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:16 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:52 -0700
                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:43 +0000
                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:09 -0700
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 14:13 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 08:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 15:38 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 09:19 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-11 18:24 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 09:39 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 16:43 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 12:38 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 20:45 +0000
                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-08 16:13 -0700
                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:42 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-08 18:32 -0700
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 21:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-08 23:55 -0700
                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 05:06 -0700
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-09 16:17 +0200
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 08:24 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-09 17:28 +0200
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 12:06 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-10 01:56 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-09 10:26 -0700
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 12:24 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-09 14:46 -0700
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:20 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-10 08:45 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:41 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-10 16:53 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 20:13 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-10 20:53 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 21:48 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-10 22:33 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 23:29 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-11 08:16 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 07:21 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-11 10:30 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 08:31 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 07:14 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 08:27 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 09:54 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 12:53 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 20:49 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 15:12 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 22:31 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 15:53 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 12:27 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 16:40 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 12:27 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 14:15 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-11 23:23 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-12 01:45 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 15:48 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 19:14 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 21:03 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 21:12 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 12:27 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 06:09 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 13:42 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 19:30 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 21:21 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 23:04 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 05:02 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 05:58 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-12 15:03 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-16 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 13:37 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 19:24 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 05:52 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 13:37 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 19:22 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 19:34 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 07:15 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 15:03 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-06-13 08:46 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 16:43 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 16:40 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 13:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 07:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 16:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 16:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-15 01:27 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 16:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-15 01:48 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 17:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 14:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 08:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 16:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-15 10:11 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 10:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-15 11:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 12:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-15 13:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 16:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-15 17:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 18:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-15 20:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 21:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 21:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-15 23:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 00:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-16 01:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 01:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-16 13:15 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 08:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-16 18:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 10:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 12:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 02:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-16 10:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-16 10:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 11:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-16 15:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 03:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-17 09:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-18 01:17 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 16:58 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 17:34 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 18:02 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 18:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-18 04:05 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 19:59 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-17 20:23 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-17 23:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 06:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-18 15:37 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 07:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-18 22:49 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 16:57 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-06-18 08:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 08:36 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 09:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 16:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 19:05 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 19:44 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 06:02 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 08:58 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gerald Kelleher <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 23:11 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 00:49 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 01:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 23:34 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-15 10:28 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-15 11:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-15 18:11 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-15 21:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-17 07:00 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-16 23:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 12:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 14:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-15 18:04 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 17:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 06:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-16 06:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 07:44 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-16 17:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 10:35 -0700
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#463654

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-06 17:38 -0700
Message-ID<d656f9a1-9e66-4238-b3d4-46d7f826d7c8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463636
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 1:51:00 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:53:26 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:24:56 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:25:34 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:08:59 AM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 5:12:17 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 10:55:53 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> That's simple algebra. Start with the standard Lorentz transform
> >>>>>>>> t' = (t-vx/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) and substitute x=vt, and you have
> >>>>>>>> t' = (t-v(vt)/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), which becomes
> >>>>>>>> t' = (t-(v^2)t/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).
> >>>>>>>> This further simplifies to t' = t(1-v^2/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
> >>>>>>>> and further to t' = t*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Yes, but I think you are making a mistake in the substitution.
> >>>>>>> With two sets of Galilean transformation equations, we get
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> n' = t-vt/c = t-vx/c^2
> >>>>>>> if and only if x=ct or x = -ct .
> >>>>>>> If you put x=vt into this equation, it is not going to work.
> >>>>>>> The thirty miles per second is shown already by v.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> It appears clear to me that you do not even understand
> >>>>>> the Galilean equations.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'm going back to just lurking on this topic.
> >>>>>> Ed
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I understand the Galilean transformation equations.
> >>>> 
> >>>> No. you really don't.
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I will admit that I do not understand the Lorentz equations,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ah, then we agree on one thing.
> >>>> 
> >>>>> but, then, I do not think anyone else does either.
> >>>> 
> >>>> There you go off the rails again.
> >>>> Oh well.
> >>>> ed
> >>> 
> >>> Well, take relativity of simultaneity, for instance.  I gave halst... a
> >>> problem.  Two bolts of lightning strike the ends of a moving train
> >>> simultaneously as seen by an observer on the ground, leaving marks on the
> >>> train and on the railroad track.  How far apart are the marks on the track?
> >>> The Galilean transformation equations give the obviously correct answer: 
> >>> The marks on the track are the length of the train apart. 
> >> 
> >> As measured by an observer on the ground. But for any other observer for
> >> whom the strikes are not simultaneous then they are obviously not the
> >> length of the train apart. 
> >> 
> > Well, now you are getting out of lockstep with these other SR people. 
> > They all say that the marks on the track will be closer than the length
> > of the train apart, 
> 
> Well that must be a different length measurement, perhaps as measured by an
> observer on the ground. 
> 
> But the marks on the track are the length of the train apart as measured by
> an observer on the ground. 
> 
> If you just say “length of the train” without specifying the frame in which
> the measurement is made, then you are being hopelessly vague. It’d be just
> like you saying that it’s 6pm in the city — what city?
> 
> > and from the frame of reference of the train, they will be even closer
> > together than they are from the frame of reference of the track.  All I
> > can tell you is that I am glad I found out about the 
> > Galilean transformation equations where the marks on the track are the
> > length of the train apart from any frame of reference. 
> > 
The name of the city does not matter as long as the city is within the time zone where it is 6 pm.

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#463668

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 03:47 +0000
Message-ID<phpd4a$ack$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463654
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 1:51:00 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:53:26 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:24:56 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:25:34 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:08:59 AM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 5:12:17 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 10:55:53 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That's simple algebra. Start with the standard Lorentz transform
>>>>>>>>>> t' = (t-vx/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) and substitute x=vt, and you have
>>>>>>>>>> t' = (t-v(vt)/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), which becomes
>>>>>>>>>> t' = (t-(v^2)t/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).
>>>>>>>>>> This further simplifies to t' = t(1-v^2/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
>>>>>>>>>> and further to t' = t*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, but I think you are making a mistake in the substitution.
>>>>>>>>> With two sets of Galilean transformation equations, we get
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> n' = t-vt/c = t-vx/c^2
>>>>>>>>> if and only if x=ct or x = -ct .
>>>>>>>>> If you put x=vt into this equation, it is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>> The thirty miles per second is shown already by v.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It appears clear to me that you do not even understand
>>>>>>>> the Galilean equations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm going back to just lurking on this topic.
>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I understand the Galilean transformation equations.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No. you really don't.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I will admit that I do not understand the Lorentz equations,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, then we agree on one thing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> but, then, I do not think anyone else does either.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There you go off the rails again.
>>>>>> Oh well.
>>>>>> ed
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, take relativity of simultaneity, for instance.  I gave halst... a
>>>>> problem.  Two bolts of lightning strike the ends of a moving train
>>>>> simultaneously as seen by an observer on the ground, leaving marks on the
>>>>> train and on the railroad track.  How far apart are the marks on the track?
>>>>> The Galilean transformation equations give the obviously correct answer: 
>>>>> The marks on the track are the length of the train apart. 
>>>> 
>>>> As measured by an observer on the ground. But for any other observer for
>>>> whom the strikes are not simultaneous then they are obviously not the
>>>> length of the train apart. 
>>>> 
>>> Well, now you are getting out of lockstep with these other SR people. 
>>> They all say that the marks on the track will be closer than the length
>>> of the train apart, 
>> 
>> Well that must be a different length measurement, perhaps as measured by an
>> observer on the ground. 
>> 
>> But the marks on the track are the length of the train apart as measured by
>> an observer on the ground. 
>> 
>> If you just say “length of the train” without specifying the frame in which
>> the measurement is made, then you are being hopelessly vague. It’d be just
>> like you saying that it’s 6pm in the city — what city?
>> 
>>> and from the frame of reference of the train, they will be even closer
>>> together than they are from the frame of reference of the track.  All I
>>> can tell you is that I am glad I found out about the 
>>> Galilean transformation equations where the marks on the track are the
>>> length of the train apart from any frame of reference. 
>>> 
> The name of the city does not matter as long as the city is within the
> time zone where it is 6 pm.
> 

And in the case of the train length what matters is if you’re in the same
reference frame as the other observer. However in the case at hand that is
not the case. 

Very similar to equivocating about time in the cities when they are not in
the same time zone. The analogy is quite close. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463670

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-06 21:07 -0700
Message-ID<198ad611-22ea-4c6d-9f61-c1a594f45625@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463668
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 8:47:24 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 1:51:00 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:53:26 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:24:56 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:25:34 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:08:59 AM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 5:12:17 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 10:55:53 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> That's simple algebra. Start with the standard Lorentz transform
> >>>>>>>>>> t' = (t-vx/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) and substitute x=vt, and you have
> >>>>>>>>>> t' = (t-v(vt)/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), which becomes
> >>>>>>>>>> t' = (t-(v^2)t/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).
> >>>>>>>>>> This further simplifies to t' = t(1-v^2/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
> >>>>>>>>>> and further to t' = t*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Yes, but I think you are making a mistake in the substitution.
> >>>>>>>>> With two sets of Galilean transformation equations, we get
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> n' = t-vt/c = t-vx/c^2
> >>>>>>>>> if and only if x=ct or x = -ct .
> >>>>>>>>> If you put x=vt into this equation, it is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>> The thirty miles per second is shown already by v.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> It appears clear to me that you do not even understand
> >>>>>>>> the Galilean equations.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I'm going back to just lurking on this topic.
> >>>>>>>> Ed
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I understand the Galilean transformation equations.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> No. you really don't.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I will admit that I do not understand the Lorentz equations,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Ah, then we agree on one thing.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> but, then, I do not think anyone else does either.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> There you go off the rails again.
> >>>>>> Oh well.
> >>>>>> ed
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Well, take relativity of simultaneity, for instance.  I gave halst... a
> >>>>> problem.  Two bolts of lightning strike the ends of a moving train
> >>>>> simultaneously as seen by an observer on the ground, leaving marks on the
> >>>>> train and on the railroad track.  How far apart are the marks on the track?
> >>>>> The Galilean transformation equations give the obviously correct answer: 
> >>>>> The marks on the track are the length of the train apart. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> As measured by an observer on the ground. But for any other observer for
> >>>> whom the strikes are not simultaneous then they are obviously not the
> >>>> length of the train apart. 
> >>>> 
> >>> Well, now you are getting out of lockstep with these other SR people. 
> >>> They all say that the marks on the track will be closer than the length
> >>> of the train apart, 
> >> 
> >> Well that must be a different length measurement, perhaps as measured by an
> >> observer on the ground. 
> >> 
> >> But the marks on the track are the length of the train apart as measured by
> >> an observer on the ground. 
> >> 
> >> If you just say “length of the train” without specifying the frame in which
> >> the measurement is made, then you are being hopelessly vague. It’d be just
> >> like you saying that it’s 6pm in the city — what city?
> >> 
> >>> and from the frame of reference of the train, they will be even closer
> >>> together than they are from the frame of reference of the track.  All I
> >>> can tell you is that I am glad I found out about the 
> >>> Galilean transformation equations where the marks on the track are the
> >>> length of the train apart from any frame of reference. 
> >>> 
> > The name of the city does not matter as long as the city is within the
> > time zone where it is 6 pm.
> > 
> 
> And in the case of the train length what matters is if you’re in the same
> reference frame as the other observer. However in the case at hand that is
> not the case. 
> 
> Very similar to equivocating about time in the cities when they are not in
> the same time zone. The analogy is quite close. 

I don't equivocate.  Observers in both frames of reference see the same thing.  The marks on the railroad are the length of the train apart.

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#463671

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 04:18 +0000
Message-ID<phpeu8$cpi$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463670
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 8:47:24 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 1:51:00 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:53:26 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:24:56 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:25:34 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:08:59 AM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 5:12:17 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 10:55:53 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's simple algebra. Start with the standard Lorentz transform
>>>>>>>>>>>> t' = (t-vx/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) and substitute x=vt, and you have
>>>>>>>>>>>> t' = (t-v(vt)/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), which becomes
>>>>>>>>>>>> t' = (t-(v^2)t/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).
>>>>>>>>>>>> This further simplifies to t' = t(1-v^2/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and further to t' = t*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but I think you are making a mistake in the substitution.
>>>>>>>>>>> With two sets of Galilean transformation equations, we get
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> n' = t-vt/c = t-vx/c^2
>>>>>>>>>>> if and only if x=ct or x = -ct .
>>>>>>>>>>> If you put x=vt into this equation, it is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>> The thirty miles per second is shown already by v.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It appears clear to me that you do not even understand
>>>>>>>>>> the Galilean equations.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm going back to just lurking on this topic.
>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I understand the Galilean transformation equations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No. you really don't.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I will admit that I do not understand the Lorentz equations,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ah, then we agree on one thing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> but, then, I do not think anyone else does either.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There you go off the rails again.
>>>>>>>> Oh well.
>>>>>>>> ed
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, take relativity of simultaneity, for instance.  I gave halst... a
>>>>>>> problem.  Two bolts of lightning strike the ends of a moving train
>>>>>>> simultaneously as seen by an observer on the ground, leaving marks on the
>>>>>>> train and on the railroad track.  How far apart are the marks on the track?
>>>>>>> The Galilean transformation equations give the obviously correct answer: 
>>>>>>> The marks on the track are the length of the train apart. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As measured by an observer on the ground. But for any other observer for
>>>>>> whom the strikes are not simultaneous then they are obviously not the
>>>>>> length of the train apart. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, now you are getting out of lockstep with these other SR people. 
>>>>> They all say that the marks on the track will be closer than the length
>>>>> of the train apart, 
>>>> 
>>>> Well that must be a different length measurement, perhaps as measured by an
>>>> observer on the ground. 
>>>> 
>>>> But the marks on the track are the length of the train apart as measured by
>>>> an observer on the ground. 
>>>> 
>>>> If you just say “length of the train” without specifying the frame in which
>>>> the measurement is made, then you are being hopelessly vague. It’d be just
>>>> like you saying that it’s 6pm in the city — what city?
>>>> 
>>>>> and from the frame of reference of the train, they will be even closer
>>>>> together than they are from the frame of reference of the track.  All I
>>>>> can tell you is that I am glad I found out about the 
>>>>> Galilean transformation equations where the marks on the track are the
>>>>> length of the train apart from any frame of reference. 
>>>>> 
>>> The name of the city does not matter as long as the city is within the
>>> time zone where it is 6 pm.
>>> 
>> 
>> And in the case of the train length what matters is if you’re in the same
>> reference frame as the other observer. However in the case at hand that is
>> not the case. 
>> 
>> Very similar to equivocating about time in the cities when they are not in
>> the same time zone. The analogy is quite close. 
> 
> I don't equivocate.  Observers in both frames of reference see the same thing.  

No they don’t. What they see has been settled by equivalent experiments,
not what your internal convictions say. 

> The marks on the railroad are the length of the train apart.
> 

That statement is not true in all frames of reference. Experiment has shown
otherwise. And it really doesn’t matter whether you believe experiment or
not. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463682

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 03:57 -0700
Message-ID<0e8e5ad0-0a7f-4527-9a2e-ba773dba1d32@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463671
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 9:18:18 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.
> >> 
> >> Very similar to equivocating about time in the cities when they are not in
> >> the same time zone. The analogy is quite close. 
> > 
> > I don't equivocate.  Observers in both frames of reference see the same thing.  
> 
> No they don’t. What they see has been settled by equivalent experiments,
> not what your internal convictions say. 
> 
> > The marks on the railroad are the length of the train apart.
> > 
> 
> That statement is not true in all frames of reference. Experiment has shown
> otherwise. And it really doesn’t matter whether you believe experiment or
> not. 
> 

No, none of this matters. 

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#463685

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 11:27 +0000
Message-ID<phq82c$1inr$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463682
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 9:18:18 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.
>>>> 
>>>> Very similar to equivocating about time in the cities when they are not in
>>>> the same time zone. The analogy is quite close. 
>>> 
>>> I don't equivocate.  Observers in both frames of reference see the same thing.  
>> 
>> No they don’t. What they see has been settled by equivalent experiments,
>> not what your internal convictions say. 
>> 
>>> The marks on the railroad are the length of the train apart.
>>> 
>> 
>> That statement is not true in all frames of reference. Experiment has shown
>> otherwise. And it really doesn’t matter whether you believe experiment or
>> not. 
>> 
> 
> No, none of this matters. 
> 

That is true. This conversation will soon enough vaporize into meaningless
nothingness as the servers that temporarily house it become reclaimed. I
know that in the past you’ve expressed some hope that a future generation,
perhaps centuries from now, will read the common sense words of a welder
and realize that Robert Winn was right. But now it is becoming clearer that
that isn’t really going to happen, isn’t it?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463693

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 06:09 -0700
Message-ID<433c7bf9-c48e-426b-8f7a-5e28de7f5aa9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463685
On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 4:27:10 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 9:18:18 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Very similar to equivocating about time in the cities when they are not in
> >>>> the same time zone. The analogy is quite close. 
> >>> 
> >>> I don't equivocate.  Observers in both frames of reference see the same thing.  
> >> 
> >> No they don’t. What they see has been settled by equivalent experiments,
> >> not what your internal convictions say. 
> >> 
> >>> The marks on the railroad are the length of the train apart.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> That statement is not true in all frames of reference. Experiment has shown
> >> otherwise. And it really doesn’t matter whether you believe experiment or
> >> not. 
> >> 
> > 
> > No, none of this matters. 
> > 
> 
> That is true. This conversation will soon enough vaporize into meaningless
> nothingness as the servers that temporarily house it become reclaimed. I
> know that in the past you’ve expressed some hope that a future generation,
> perhaps centuries from now, will read the common sense words of a welder
> and realize that Robert Winn was right. But now it is becoming clearer that
> that isn’t really going to happen, isn’t it?
> 
What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly is not up to me to correct you.

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#463703

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 15:35 +0000
Message-ID<phqmke$ap6$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463693
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 4:27:10 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 9:18:18 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Very similar to equivocating about time in the cities when they are not in
>>>>>> the same time zone. The analogy is quite close. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't equivocate.  Observers in both frames of reference see the same thing.  
>>>> 
>>>> No they don’t. What they see has been settled by equivalent experiments,
>>>> not what your internal convictions say. 
>>>> 
>>>>> The marks on the railroad are the length of the train apart.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That statement is not true in all frames of reference. Experiment has shown
>>>> otherwise. And it really doesn’t matter whether you believe experiment or
>>>> not. 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> No, none of this matters. 
>>> 
>> 
>> That is true. This conversation will soon enough vaporize into meaningless
>> nothingness as the servers that temporarily house it become reclaimed. I
>> know that in the past you’ve expressed some hope that a future generation,
>> perhaps centuries from now, will read the common sense words of a welder
>> and realize that Robert Winn was right. But now it is becoming clearer that
>> that isn’t really going to happen, isn’t it?
>> 
> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
> is not up to me to correct you.
> 

Same goes for you. 

Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
false. I use data. You use your own beliefs. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463716

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 09:37 -0700
Message-ID<f074f693-b8f4-4e92-92b9-e64d46ee0d76@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463703
On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:

> > What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
> > certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
> > can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
> > others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
> > something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
> > is not up to me to correct you.
> > 
> 
> Same goes for you. 
> 
> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs. 
> 

Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.

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#463722

FromVolney <volney@volney.invalid>
Date2018-07-07 12:56 -0400
Message-ID<phqrap$b42$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#463716
On 7/7/2018 12:37 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
>>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
>>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
>>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
>>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
>>> is not up to me to correct you.
>>>
>>
>> Same goes for you.
>>
>> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
>> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs.
>>
> 
> Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.

He did, and he uses both real data and teaching exercises like 
Einstein's train gedanken.

I use real data as well, such as the MESSENGER spacecraft from Mercury, 
which shows the Lorentz transform is consistent and the Galilean 
transform and the Winn transform are both incorrect.

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#463752

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 13:53 -0700
Message-ID<dc105a35-d681-4d3a-acf9-b59c7b782c1c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463722
On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 7/7/2018 12:37 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
> >>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
> >>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
> >>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
> >>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
> >>> is not up to me to correct you.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Same goes for you.
> >>
> >> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
> >> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs.
> >>
> > 
> > Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
> 
> He did, and he uses both real data and teaching exercises like 
> Einstein's train gedanken.
> 
> I use real data as well, such as the MESSENGER spacecraft from Mercury, 
> which shows the Lorentz transform is consistent and the Galilean 
> transform and the Winn transform are both incorrect.

How would it have done that?  

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#463763

FromVolney <volney@volney.invalid>
Date2018-07-07 19:21 -0400
Message-ID<phrhrp$i22$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#463752
On 7/7/2018 4:53 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>> On 7/7/2018 12:37 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
>>>>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
>>>>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
>>>>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
>>>>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
>>>>> is not up to me to correct you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Same goes for you.
>>>>
>>>> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
>>>> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
>>
>> He did, and he uses both real data and teaching exercises like
>> Einstein's train gedanken.
>>
>> I use real data as well, such as the MESSENGER spacecraft from Mercury,
>> which shows the Lorentz transform is consistent and the Galilean
>> transform and the Winn transform are both incorrect.
> 
> How would it have done that?

I already told you. They brought a super accurate clock to Mercury, in 
the form of a super accurate radio transmitter, so that they can detect 
mascons from the Doppler shift of the super accurate transmitter signal 
when MESSENGER orbited Mercury. While doing that, they had to compensate 
for the GR transform shift from the effects of the orbital motion of 
Mercury as well as the gravitational fields from both the Sun and Mercury.

They would have noticed if the signal obeyed the Galilean transform or 
the Winn transform rather than the Lorentz transform (strictly speaking, 
GR effects). It would have been huge news. Huge.

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#463795

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 04:48 -0700
Message-ID<eb10a0a0-6d23-4089-b83d-11057dede0ff@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463763
On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 4:20:26 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 7/7/2018 4:53 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> >> On 7/7/2018 12:37 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
> >>>>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
> >>>>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
> >>>>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
> >>>>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
> >>>>> is not up to me to correct you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Same goes for you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
> >>>> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
> >>
> >> He did, and he uses both real data and teaching exercises like
> >> Einstein's train gedanken.
> >>
> >> I use real data as well, such as the MESSENGER spacecraft from Mercury,
> >> which shows the Lorentz transform is consistent and the Galilean
> >> transform and the Winn transform are both incorrect.
> > 
> > How would it have done that?
> 
> I already told you. They brought a super accurate clock to Mercury, in 
> the form of a super accurate radio transmitter, so that they can detect 
> mascons from the Doppler shift of the super accurate transmitter signal 
> when MESSENGER orbited Mercury. While doing that, they had to compensate 
> for the GR transform shift from the effects of the orbital motion of 
> Mercury as well as the gravitational fields from both the Sun and Mercury.
> 
> They would have noticed if the signal obeyed the Galilean transform or 
> the Winn transform rather than the Lorentz transform (strictly speaking, 
> GR effects). It would have been huge news. Huge.

Well, so they compensated.  If the transitions in the cesium atoms in a clock in the space probe were slower than the transitions of a clock on earth, how did it prove two sets of Galilean transformation equations wrong?
For example, we say that 

                 x'=x-vt
                 y'=y
                 z'=z
                 t'=t

represents the frame of reference of an observer on earth.  

                 x = x' - v'n'
                 y = y'
                 z = z'
                 n = n'

represents the frame of reference of the space probe.  n' is the time of the clock in the space probe. I already showed that the transitions of the cesium atoms in the space probe clock are slower than the transitions of the cesium atoms in the clock on earth. So now the super accurate transmitter emits a signal that is received by the observer on earth.  Show how compensating for the effects of the orbital motion of Mercury as well as the gravitational fields from both the Sun and Mercury proves either set of Galilean transformation equations wrong. 

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#463803

FromVolney <volney@volney.invalid>
Date2018-07-08 09:47 -0400
Message-ID<pht4kj$65s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#463795
On 7/8/2018 7:48 AM, Robert Winn wrote:
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 4:20:26 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>> On 7/7/2018 4:53 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>>>> On 7/7/2018 12:37 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
>>>>>>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
>>>>>>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
>>>>>>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
>>>>>>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
>>>>>>> is not up to me to correct you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same goes for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
>>>>>> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
>>>>
>>>> He did, and he uses both real data and teaching exercises like
>>>> Einstein's train gedanken.
>>>>
>>>> I use real data as well, such as the MESSENGER spacecraft from Mercury,
>>>> which shows the Lorentz transform is consistent and the Galilean
>>>> transform and the Winn transform are both incorrect.
>>>
>>> How would it have done that?
>>
>> I already told you. They brought a super accurate clock to Mercury, in
>> the form of a super accurate radio transmitter, so that they can detect
>> mascons from the Doppler shift of the super accurate transmitter signal
>> when MESSENGER orbited Mercury. While doing that, they had to compensate
>> for the GR transform shift from the effects of the orbital motion of
>> Mercury as well as the gravitational fields from both the Sun and Mercury.
>>
>> They would have noticed if the signal obeyed the Galilean transform or
>> the Winn transform rather than the Lorentz transform (strictly speaking,
>> GR effects). It would have been huge news. Huge.
> 
> Well, so they compensated.  If the transitions in the cesium atoms in a clock in the space probe were slower than the transitions of a clock on earth,

I deliberately excluded the use of broken clocks. NASA did not use a 
broken clock on MESSENGER.

> how did it prove two sets of Galilean transformation equations wrong?

With the use of non-broken clocks, t'=t according to the Galilean 
transform. NASA noticed the received frequency matched the predictions 
of GR, including the Lorentz transform of Mercury orbiting at 30 
miles/sec plus the gravitational effects of the Sun and Mercury, meaning 
that t' was not equal to t.

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#463819

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 13:09 -0700
Message-ID<587f6103-1692-43f5-87c2-4e6de6389b8f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463803
On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 6:47:01 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 7/8/2018 7:48 AM, Robert Winn wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 4:20:26 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> >> On 7/7/2018 4:53 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> >>>> On 7/7/2018 12:37 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
> >>>>>>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
> >>>>>>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
> >>>>>>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
> >>>>>>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
> >>>>>>> is not up to me to correct you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Same goes for you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
> >>>>>> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
> >>>>
> >>>> He did, and he uses both real data and teaching exercises like
> >>>> Einstein's train gedanken.
> >>>>
> >>>> I use real data as well, such as the MESSENGER spacecraft from Mercury,
> >>>> which shows the Lorentz transform is consistent and the Galilean
> >>>> transform and the Winn transform are both incorrect.
> >>>
> >>> How would it have done that?
> >>
> >> I already told you. They brought a super accurate clock to Mercury, in
> >> the form of a super accurate radio transmitter, so that they can detect
> >> mascons from the Doppler shift of the super accurate transmitter signal
> >> when MESSENGER orbited Mercury. While doing that, they had to compensate
> >> for the GR transform shift from the effects of the orbital motion of
> >> Mercury as well as the gravitational fields from both the Sun and Mercury.
> >>
> >> They would have noticed if the signal obeyed the Galilean transform or
> >> the Winn transform rather than the Lorentz transform (strictly speaking,
> >> GR effects). It would have been huge news. Huge.
> > 
> > Well, so they compensated.  If the transitions in the cesium atoms in a clock in the space probe were slower than the transitions of a clo...

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#463746

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 19:57 +0000
Message-ID<phr5ul$15ms$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463716
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
>>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
>>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
>>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
>>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
>>> is not up to me to correct you.
>>> 
>> 
>> Same goes for you. 
>> 
>> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
>> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs. 
>> 
> 
> Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you
> were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
> 

Heck no. Gedankens prove nothing, never have. The gedanken was never
intended by Einstein to convince anyone of length contraction. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463755

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 14:15 -0700
Message-ID<b817cc63-c0bc-4aa6-949d-4c27e2cb099e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463746
On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:57:12 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
> >>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
> >>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
> >>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
> >>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
> >>> is not up to me to correct you.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Same goes for you. 
> >> 
> >> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
> >> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs. 
> >> 
> > 
> > Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you
> > were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
> > 
> 
> Heck no. Gedankens prove nothing, never have. The gedanken was never
> intended by Einstein to convince anyone of length contraction. 
> 
Well, but that is what it does.  Scientists will all tell you that that the marks on the track are less than the length of the train apart because the length of the train is contracted.  

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#463769

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 00:20 +0000
Message-ID<phrlcj$1sd6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463755
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:57:12 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
>>>>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
>>>>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
>>>>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
>>>>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
>>>>> is not up to me to correct you.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Same goes for you. 
>>>> 
>>>> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
>>>> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs. 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you
>>> were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
>>> 
>> 
>> Heck no. Gedankens prove nothing, never have. The gedanken was never
>> intended by Einstein to convince anyone of length contraction. 
>> 
> Well, but that is what it does.  Scientists will all tell you that that
> the marks on the track are less than the length of the train apart
> because the length of the train is contracted.  
> 

Not because of the gedanken. The gedanken proves nothing. Experimental data
show the principles of special relativity are correct. The gedankens serve
to show how those principles (correct by observational data) work in a
simple, hypothetical example. The gedankens serve to explain the conceptual
development of the theory, but its data — always data — that establish
correctness. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463783

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-07-07 22:23 -0700
Message-ID<89e97afe-119e-4ff2-b02b-e6b000326eda@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463769
On Sunday, 8 July 2018 02:20:39 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:57:12 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
> >>>>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
> >>>>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
> >>>>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
> >>>>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
> >>>>> is not up to me to correct you.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Same goes for you. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
> >>>> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs. 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you
> >>> were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Heck no. Gedankens prove nothing, never have. The gedanken was never
> >> intended by Einstein to convince anyone of length contraction. 
> >> 
> > Well, but that is what it does.  Scientists will all tell you that that
> > the marks on the track are less than the length of the train apart
> > because the length of the train is contracted.  
> > 
> 
> Not because of the gedanken. The gedanken proves nothing. Experimental data
> show the principles of special relativity are correct. 

A lie, as expected from fanatic trash believing in gedankens
more than in real indications of real clocks.

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#463790

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 10:12 +0000
Message-ID<phso1u$1b6k$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463783
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Sunday, 8 July 2018 02:20:39 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:57:12 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:45 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What difference would it make?  The people of this world are locked into
>>>>>>> certain false beliefs that they are going to cling to as long as they
>>>>>>> can.  One of those is their belief in a length contraction.  They have
>>>>>>> others.  I have to go on with my life.  If you want to believe in
>>>>>>> something that is not true, you should be free to do that.  It certainly
>>>>>>> is not up to me to correct you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same goes for you. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Where the difference lies is what you and me use to establish which one is
>>>>>> false. I use data. You use your own beliefs. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Data?  Well why didn't you tell me you were using data?  I thought you
>>>>> were using Einstein's train and lightning idea.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Heck no. Gedankens prove nothing, never have. The gedanken was never
>>>> intended by Einstein to convince anyone of length contraction. 
>>>> 
>>> Well, but that is what it does.  Scientists will all tell you that that
>>> the marks on the track are less than the length of the train apart
>>> because the length of the train is contracted.  
>>> 
>> 
>> Not because of the gedanken. The gedanken proves nothing. Experimental data
>> show the principles of special relativity are correct. 
> 
> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash believing in gedankens
> more than in real indications of real clocks.
> 
> 

Sorry, but you don’t know the experimental basis for relativity’s validity,
obviously. Your ignorance of the subject matter is noted, but is your
problem. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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