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Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity?

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First post2018-06-04 16:31 -0700
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  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-04 16:31 -0700
    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-05 00:16 -0400
      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 08:12 -0700
        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 +0000
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 13:56 -0700
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 22:32 +0000
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0400
              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 02:48 +0000
                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 06:10 -0700
              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 05:48 -0700
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 14:19 -0700
        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:24 -0700
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:00 +0000
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 11:04 -0700
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 15:25 -0400
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 14:28 -0700
      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 08:22 -0700
        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-05 12:05 -0400
          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 14:12 -0700
            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-05 19:10 -0400
              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 05:38 -0700
                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 12:45 +0000
                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 06:08 -0700
                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:00 +0000
                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 14:07 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-06 17:22 -0400
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 07:58 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:34 +0000
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 07:40 -0700
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 13:49 -0700
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 21:27 +0000
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 08:39 -0700
                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 12:45 +0000
                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 06:17 -0700
                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:30 +0000
                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-06 14:33 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:38 +0000
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 07:26 -0700
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 16:08 +0000
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 10:02 -0700
                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:51 +0000
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 13:57 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 16:59 -0700
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 06:52 -0700
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 13:38 -0700
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 06:38 -0700
                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:46 +0000
                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 16:50 +0000
                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-08 16:56 +0000
                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 14:21 -0700
                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 22:31 +0000
                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-09 05:17 -0700
                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 13:47 +0000
                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-09 08:00 -0700
                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:39 +0000
                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 06:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-10 09:46 -0400
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 07:32 -0700
                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:59 +0000
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 09:49 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 19:18 +0000
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 04:52 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 05:01 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 18:40 -0700
                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-10 14:04 -0400
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 13:58 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 21:19 +0000
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 08:33 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 08:48 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 16:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 08:26 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-12 12:26 -0400
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 10:28 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-12 12:12 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 12:58 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 15:12 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-13 11:11 -0500
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-12 17:46 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 22:41 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 04:31 -0700
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 14:31 +0000
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 08:37 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 16:13 +0000
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-13 07:14 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 08:52 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-13 12:27 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 13:38 -0700
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Pasquale Broman <lqs@basq.ce> - 2018-06-13 20:43 +0000
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 13:57 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Pasquale Broman <lqs@basq.ce> - 2018-06-13 21:26 +0000
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-14 13:28 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 13:45 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-14 18:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 14:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 08:32 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 15:45 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 14:41 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 14:50 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-14 18:28 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-14 19:15 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 22:46 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 04:30 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 05:12 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 05:41 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:39 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 19:13 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 19:16 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:43 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 05:31 -0700
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-14 11:37 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 11:56 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:40 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-15 13:27 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 15:03 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-16 05:40 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 07:53 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-16 13:18 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-16 17:08 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 18:34 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 02:08 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 06:36 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-17 15:44 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 09:04 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-17 18:16 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 13:33 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-17 16:46 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-17 14:23 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 09:11 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-06-18 09:32 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 17:26 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-18 14:04 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 14:58 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 22:43 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-18 22:47 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 08:10 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:10 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-20 12:12 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:41 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 13:56 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-20 17:18 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:57 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 10:42 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:43 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:48 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 09:31 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 05:46 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 09:02 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 09:17 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-17 17:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 07:30 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-17 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 17:59 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 11:39 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-18 09:08 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 15:49 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 09:18 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-17 17:23 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 13:17 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-17 22:23 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 06:55 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 15:44 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 08:57 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-18 17:39 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 11:57 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 12:27 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 07:05 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:26 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:09 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 13:38 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 18:14 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 15:18 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 11:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 10:26 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 17:44 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 14:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 06:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 06:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 07:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 12:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 04:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 06:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 21:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-23 04:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 05:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 00:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 22:31 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 10:03 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 10:11 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 14:34 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 22:31 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 22:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 02:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 10:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 00:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 01:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 07:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 17:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 06:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 13:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 07:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 15:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:04 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 09:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 10:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 10:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 15:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 16:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 11:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 11:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 22:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 16:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 06:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 14:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 14:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 21:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 14:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-07 15:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 14:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 17:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 20:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-04 06:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-04 09:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 06:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 09:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 15:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 14:21 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 12:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 15:31 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 16:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 21:07 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 09:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-07 17:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-06 14:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 00:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-07 17:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 06:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 06:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 08:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 08:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 09:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 22:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 17:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 17:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 15:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 15:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 05:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 05:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-14 02:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 15:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 09:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-17 10:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 17:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 23:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 00:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 10:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 22:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 23:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 00:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 05:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 00:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 03:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 02:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 07:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 09:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 18:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 02:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 18:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 14:32 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 05:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-06 15:41 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 17:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 17:42 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 02:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 09:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 10:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-23 17:28 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 15:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 15:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 18:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 18:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 22:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 00:52 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 06:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-22 14:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 14:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 08:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 04:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 14:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 04:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-23 14:55 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 06:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 14:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-24 17:50 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 06:05 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 09:14 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 18:10 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 17:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-16 13:12 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-17 06:26 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 13:33 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 17:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-11 12:18 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 07:39 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-12 12:16 -0400
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 16:30 +0000
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-10 17:26 -0400
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-10 21:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-10 17:47 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-10 21:51 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 18:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-12 18:44 +0000
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 06:41 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-11 10:42 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 08:57 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-11 18:04 +0200
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-11 16:15 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-12 01:47 +0200
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 06:07 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-12 15:10 +0200
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 07:50 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-12 18:20 +0200
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 13:37 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-11 12:37 -0400
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-12 08:28 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-12 12:19 -0400
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 09:44 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 14:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 19:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 05:55 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-12 12:31 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 13:05 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-12 17:50 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 18:39 -0700
                                                                          OT: programming languages in physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-13 12:07 -0500
                                                                            Re: OT: programming languages in physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 15:33 -0700
                                                                              Re: OT: programming languages in physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-14 11:24 -0500
                                                                                Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocowak.br> - 2018-06-14 16:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-14 22:02 +0200
                                                                                    Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-14 20:43 +0000
                                                                                      Re: OT: programming languages in physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-14 23:18 +0200
                                                                                        Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-14 22:11 +0000
                                                                                          Re: OT: programming languages in physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-15 00:32 +0200
                                                                                            Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-15 14:40 +0000
                                                                                              Re: OT: programming languages in physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                Re: OT: programming languages in physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-16 12:40 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-16 13:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 11:48 +0000
                                                                                                Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-16 13:52 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-16 15:59 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-16 14:10 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT: programming languages in physics Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-16 13:00 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-16 17:22 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: OT: programming languages in physics Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-17 03:31 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: OT: programming languages in physics Werner Ballard <db@ocoak.bn> - 2018-06-17 11:41 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: OT: programming languages in physics Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-18 09:05 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: OT: programming languages in physics Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-18 15:56 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT: programming languages in physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 10:58 -0700
                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 18:24 -0700
                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 09:51 -0700
                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 17:55 -0700
                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-18 19:25 +0200
                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-18 11:19 -0700
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 11:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-18 22:33 +0200
                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 14:27 -0700
                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 07:53 -0700
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-20 12:03 -0400
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:16 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-20 17:42 -0400
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 11:16 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-22 10:50 +0200
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 02:27 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zprávn Udoucih <zpnvn@nwinst.ce> - 2018-06-22 11:36 +0000
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-22 13:57 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 08:25 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-22 22:56 +0200
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 04:52 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 00:10 +0000
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 17:26 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-24 18:19 +0200
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-24 12:09 -0700
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-25 19:22 +0200
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-25 11:27 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-25 21:48 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-26 06:08 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-27 20:40 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 06:57 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 14:13 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 01:10 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 06:50 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 08:11 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 09:39 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 09:50 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 13:39 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 14:12 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:41 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 23:21 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 19:17 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 03:42 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-01 07:58 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 15:19 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 13:34 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-01 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 15:24 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-30 16:39 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-30 17:16 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 16:03 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-02 18:46 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-02 10:24 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 18:04 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-03 20:46 +0200
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-06-25 19:40 +0200
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 05:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:28 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 13:39 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 18:25 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 12:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 12:45 -0400
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 17:54 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 09:38 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 17:44 +0000
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 11:22 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 21:02 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 06:59 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 07:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 08:49 -0700
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 08:58 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:12 +0000
                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 05:35 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 14:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-23 16:55 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 00:35 +0000
                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 13:17 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-24 07:36 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 09:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 14:07 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-25 11:10 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 20:44 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-26 06:13 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-26 13:37 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 14:29 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-26 17:32 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 00:45 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-26 17:46 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 01:38 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-27 07:00 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 07:15 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 14:31 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 08:23 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 16:09 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 11:07 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 19:48 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 07:04 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 14:10 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 21:56 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 06:18 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:28 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 16:31 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 13:28 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:52 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-03 15:01 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 22:11 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 22:23 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 09:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 15:47 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 09:33 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 16:51 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 09:58 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-29 13:57 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 21:56 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 06:12 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 17:10 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:15 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 15:05 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 22:08 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 03:44 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 13:34 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-01 09:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-01 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 18:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 14:48 -0400
                                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 00:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 09:59 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 10:42 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 14:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:05 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:10 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 10:34 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:19 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-22 07:03 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 18:31 -0400
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 12:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 12:49 -0400
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 17:54 +0000
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 12:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-20 13:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:02 -0700
                                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 10:20 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 10:26 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-21 14:17 -0700
                                                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:37 -0700
                                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-09 17:26 +0200
                                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 06:45 -0700
                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-10 19:22 +0200
                                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 13:44 -0700
                                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 18:22 -0700
                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:30 -0700
                        Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-07 11:09 -0400
                          Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-07 09:44 -0700
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Zandra Sobczak <acako@raswa.bo> - 2018-06-07 16:49 +0000
                            Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-07 13:23 -0400
                              Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 06:59 -0700
                                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-08 18:40 +0200
                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-08 13:26 -0700
                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:36 -0700
                                  Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-09 05:45 -0700
                                    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-09 17:22 +0200
                                      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-10 06:22 -0700
                Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-06 18:01 +0000
    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 05:51 -0700
    Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 12:55 +0000
      Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-05 08:43 -0700

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#463261

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-02 08:28 -0700
Message-ID<260c9c61-331a-451e-ad73-6e54e7b8efb5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463258
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 10:10:57 AM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 8:31:41 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 8:37:25 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> 
> > > 1) I aim to show that it is possible to set up a magnet and orbiting ball
> > >    system that will maintain itself for hundreds of orbits.
> > 
> > Cut the string to the ball and see what happens. If the ball still maintaining orbit around the magnet then you got something..
> 
> That was a pretty silly comment. By using as long a pendulum line as
> possible, I can keep the gravitational contribution to one that is as 
> close to right angles to the path of the pendulum bob as possible.

Take a look at this illustration:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=11B-lx3At_ewGVmMUmKtwRylJJGAr_Osc 

Each tick mark on the horizontal axis represents 10 cm.

The pendulum line substitutes for a mildly curved, nearly frictionless 
table the shape of the red line, along which I can set a metal ball rolling.
At distances less than 10 cm, it would be rather hard for you to tell that
the table is not flat.

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#463265

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-02 16:07 +0000
Message-ID<phdik6$ucu$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463261
Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 10:10:57 AM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 8:31:41 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 8:37:25 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>> 
>>>> 1) I aim to show that it is possible to set up a magnet and orbiting ball
>>>> system that will maintain itself for hundreds of orbits.
>>> 
>>> Cut the string to the ball and see what happens. If the ball still
>>> maintaining orbit around the magnet then you got something..
>> 
>> That was a pretty silly comment. By using as long a pendulum line as
>> possible, I can keep the gravitational contribution to one that is as 
>> close to right angles to the path of the pendulum bob as possible.
> 
> Take a look at this illustration:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=11B-lx3At_ewGVmMUmKtwRylJJGAr_Osc 
> 
> Each tick mark on the horizontal axis represents 10 cm.
> 
> The pendulum line substitutes for a mildly curved, nearly frictionless 
> table the shape of the red line, along which I can set a metal ball rolling.
> At distances less than 10 cm, it would be rather hard for you to tell that
> the table is not flat.
> 

And if you’re concerned about the ferromagnetic effects in the pendulum
bob, you could consider using a paramagnetic material instead. Iron bearing
common minerals are decent, like siderite. The downside is that the
susceptibility is down by a factor of 10 or 20. This will also almost
completely kill energy losses due to eddy currents. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463281

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-02 11:05 -0700
Message-ID<b13a9b9c-4bb7-40c1-bee0-b6b884be751f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463258
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 11:10:57 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 8:31:41 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 8:37:25 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> 
> > > 1) I aim to show that it is possible to set up a magnet and orbiting ball
> > >    system that will maintain itself for hundreds of orbits.
> > 
> > Cut the string to the ball and see what happens. If the ball still maintaining orbit around the magnet then you got something..
> 
> That was a pretty silly comment. By using as long a pendulum line as
> possible, I can keep the gravitational contribution to one that is as 
> close to right angles to the path of the pendulum bob as possible.

At tall lobby of the physics building of a local university they have a heavy pendulum hanging from the ceiling and the pendulum swing back and forth without loosing any periodicity. Is that what you are trying to duplicate? 
In your experiment you introduced the magnet with washers...is this designed to provide a repulsive force to the pendulum so that it go around the magnet in circular orbits?
How is your experiment demonstrates that a single force of attractive gravity can make the moon to have stable orbit around the earth?

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#463284

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-02 11:30 -0700
Message-ID<2453edc1-1cb6-42e2-b8f4-522e5d958bbe@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463281
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 1:05:43 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 11:10:57 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 8:31:41 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 8:37:25 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > 
> > > > 1) I aim to show that it is possible to set up a magnet and orbiting ball
> > > >    system that will maintain itself for hundreds of orbits.
> > > 
> > > Cut the string to the ball and see what happens. If the ball still maintaining orbit around the magnet then you got something..
> > 
> > That was a pretty silly comment. By using as long a pendulum line as
> > possible, I can keep the gravitational contribution to one that is as 
> > close to right angles to the path of the pendulum bob as possible.
> 
> At tall lobby of the physics building of a local university they have a heavy pendulum hanging from the ceiling and the pendulum swing back and forth without loosing any periodicity. Is that what you are trying to duplicate? 

No.

> In your experiment you introduced the magnet with washers...is this designed to provide a repulsive force to the pendulum so that it go around the magnet in circular orbits?

No.

> How is your experiment demonstrates that a single force of attractive gravity can make the moon to have stable orbit around the earth?

It will demonstrate that the attractive force of a magnet can support
stable orbits, despite your claim of June 18.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.relativity/A_X409P-bz0/w24-oVmHBQAJ 

The pendulum line substitutes for a smooth, nearly frictionless table.

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#463301

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-02 15:50 -0700
Message-ID<80150b33-e00c-4e62-b18a-0c0289842f72@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463284
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:30:59 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 1:05:43 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 11:10:57 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 8:31:41 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 8:37:25 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > 1) I aim to show that it is possible to set up a magnet and orbiting ball
> > > > >    system that will maintain itself for hundreds of orbits.
> > > > 
> > > > Cut the string to the ball and see what happens. If the ball still maintaining orbit around the magnet then you got something..
> > > 
> > > That was a pretty silly comment. By using as long a pendulum line as
> > > possible, I can keep the gravitational contribution to one that is as 
> > > close to right angles to the path of the pendulum bob as possible.
> > 
> > At tall lobby of the physics building of a local university they have a heavy pendulum hanging from the ceiling and the pendulum swing back and forth without loosing any periodicity. Is that what you are trying to duplicate? 
> 
> No.
> 
> > In your experiment you introduced the magnet with washers...is this designed to provide a repulsive force to the pendulum so that it go around the magnet in circular orbits?
> 
> No.
> 
> > How is your experiment demonstrates that a single force of attractive gravity can make the moon to have stable orbit around the earth?
> 
> It will demonstrate that the attractive force of a magnet can support
> stable orbits, despite your claim of June 18.
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.relativity/A_X409P-bz0/w24-oVmHBQAJ 
> 
> The pendulum line substitutes for a smooth, nearly frictionless table.

No the heavy pendulum have momentum. That’s why the heavy pendulum at the university can swing back and forth without loosing any momentum. It is likely hat the magnet have little or no effect on your experiment.

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#463303

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-02 22:55 +0000
Message-ID<pheagj$9tg$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463301
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:30:59 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 1:05:43 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 11:10:57 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>>>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 8:31:41 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 8:37:25 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> 1) I aim to show that it is possible to set up a magnet and orbiting ball
>>>>>> system that will maintain itself for hundreds of orbits.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cut the string to the ball and see what happens. If the ball still
>>>>> maintaining orbit around the magnet then you got something..
>>>> 
>>>> That was a pretty silly comment. By using as long a pendulum line as
>>>> possible, I can keep the gravitational contribution to one that is as 
>>>> close to right angles to the path of the pendulum bob as possible.
>>> 
>>> At tall lobby of the physics building of a local university they have a
>>> heavy pendulum hanging from the ceiling and the pendulum swing back and
>>> forth without loosing any periodicity. Is that what you are trying to duplicate? 
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>>> In your experiment you introduced the magnet with washers...is this
>>> designed to provide a repulsive force to the pendulum so that it go
>>> around the magnet in circular orbits?
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>>> How is your experiment demonstrates that a single force of attractive
>>> gravity can make the moon to have stable orbit around the earth?
>> 
>> It will demonstrate that the attractive force of a magnet can support
>> stable orbits, despite your claim of June 18.
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.relativity/A_X409P-bz0/w24-oVmHBQAJ 
>> 
>> The pendulum line substitutes for a smooth, nearly frictionless table.
> 
> No the heavy pendulum have momentum. That’s why the heavy pendulum at the
> university can swing back and forth without loosing any momentum. It is
> likely hat the magnet have little or no effect on your experiment.
> 

Ken is just babbling. He has NO idea. 

He wants his babbling indulged. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463307

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-02 16:10 -0700
Message-ID<74a04d05-3f88-4afe-8c93-292a9d1f09dc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463301
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 5:50:44 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:30:59 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 1:05:43 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:

> > > How is your experiment demonstrates that a single force of attractive gravity can make the moon to have stable orbit around the earth?
> > 
> > It will demonstrate that the attractive force of a magnet can support
> > stable orbits, despite your claim of June 18.
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.relativity/A_X409P-bz0/w24-oVmHBQAJ 
> > 
> > The pendulum line substitutes for a smooth, nearly frictionless table.
> 
> No the heavy pendulum have momentum. That’s why the heavy pendulum at the university can swing back and forth without loosing any momentum. It is likely hat the magnet have little or no effect on your experiment.

You misread my answer. By "pendulum line", I meant the strand of fishing
line that will support the pendulum bob.

The pendulum line will substitute for an almost flat, nearly frictionless
table by restricting the motions of the pendulum bob to a section of a 
very shallow sphere.

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#463332

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-03 06:45 -0700
Message-ID<1942464e-69bf-4ae6-9522-f84774758d65@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463307
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 7:10:18 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 5:50:44 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:30:59 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 1:05:43 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > > > How is your experiment demonstrates that a single force of attractive gravity can make the moon to have stable orbit around the earth?
> > > 
> > > It will demonstrate that the attractive force of a magnet can support
> > > stable orbits, despite your claim of June 18.
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.relativity/A_X409P-bz0/w24-oVmHBQAJ 
> > > 
> > > The pendulum line substitutes for a smooth, nearly frictionless table.
> > 
> > No the heavy pendulum have momentum. That’s why the heavy pendulum at the university can swing back and forth without loosing any momentum. It is likely hat the magnet have little or no effect on your experiment.
> 
> You misread my answer. By "pendulum line", I meant the strand of fishing
> line that will support the pendulum bob.

I didn’t misread your answer. The pendulum bob at the university is supported by a long thin steel line.

> 
> The pendulum line will substitute for an almost flat, nearly frictionless
> table by restricting the motions of the pendulum bob to a section of a 
> very shallow sphere.

No, the pendulum bob’s momentum will allow it to maintain its motion.....so it is not due to the attractive force of the center magnet.

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#463334

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-03 14:55 +0000
Message-ID<phg2or$4ir$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#463332
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 7:10:18 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>> > > The pendulum line substitutes for a smooth, nearly frictionless table.

>> > No the heavy pendulum have momentum. That's why the heavy pendulum 
at the university can swing back and forth without loosing any momentum.
>It is likely hat the magnet have little or no effect on your experiment.

>> You misread my answer. By "pendulum line", I meant the strand of fishing
>> line that will support the pendulum bob.

>I didn't misread your answer. The pendulum bob at the university is
> supported by a long thin steel line.

Looks like you did misread it, Ken.

>> The pendulum line will substitute for an almost flat, nearly frictionless
>> table by restricting the motions of the pendulum bob to a section of a
>> very shallow sphere.

>No, the pendulum bob's momentum will allow it to maintain its 
>motion.....so it is not due to the attractive force of the center magnet.

That's the whole point, Ken. Eliminate friction as much as possible so
the only effects are the central force and momentum. Momentum is the
reason the Moon doesn't crash into the Earth even though there is only
a single attractive force of gravity, as Newton proved long ago.
The experiment being described has only a single attractive magnetic
force and momentum of the bob, with friction eliminated as much as 
possible.

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#463367

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-03 14:00 -0700
Message-ID<69380652-a6f4-4fc6-8322-19058005646c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463334
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:55:25 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
> >On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 7:10:18 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> >> > > The pendulum line substitutes for a smooth, nearly frictionless table.
> 
> >> > No the heavy pendulum have momentum. That's why the heavy pendulum 
> at the university can swing back and forth without loosing any momentum.
> >It is likely hat the magnet have little or no effect on your experiment.
> 
> >> You misread my answer. By "pendulum line", I meant the strand of fishing
> >> line that will support the pendulum bob.
> 
> >I didn't misread your answer. The pendulum bob at the university is
> > supported by a long thin steel line.
> 
> Looks like you did misread it, Ken.
> 
> >> The pendulum line will substitute for an almost flat, nearly frictionless
> >> table by restricting the motions of the pendulum bob to a section of a
> >> very shallow sphere.
> 
> >No, the pendulum bob's momentum will allow it to maintain its 
> >motion.....so it is not due to the attractive force of the center magnet.
> 
> That's the whole point, Ken. Eliminate friction as much as possible so
> the only effects are the central force and momentum. Momentum is the
> reason the Moon doesn't crash into the Earth even though there is only
> a single attractive force of gravity, as Newton proved long ago.
> The experiment being described has only a single attractive magnetic
> force and momentum of the bob, with friction eliminated as much as 
> possible.

Sigh.....if there is no force to maintain the momentum the moon will gradually crash into the earth. Similarly if there is no force to maintain the momentum, the pendulum bob will gradually crash into the magnet.

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#463369

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-03 21:37 +0000
Message-ID<phgqa6$old$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#463367
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:55:25 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> >No, the pendulum bob's momentum will allow it to maintain its 
>> >motion.....so it is not due to the attractive force of the center magnet.
>> 
>> That's the whole point, Ken. Eliminate friction as much as possible so
>> the only effects are the central force and momentum. Momentum is the
>> reason the Moon doesn't crash into the Earth even though there is only
>> a single attractive force of gravity, as Newton proved long ago.
>> The experiment being described has only a single attractive magnetic
>> force and momentum of the bob, with friction eliminated as much as 
>> possible.

>Sigh.....if there is no force to maintain the momentum the moon will 
>gradually crash into the earth.

Ken, do you even know Newton's Laws?  What will cause the moon to lose
momentum if not "maintained"?  Who "maintains" it, God?  Don't you know
that momentum is a conserved quantity and there is no friction in space?  
This is basic high school stuff!

> Similarly if there is no force to 
>maintain the momentum, the pendulum bob will gradually crash into the 
>magnet.

That's the whole point of minimizing the friction (by using a long line
so there is only minimal air resistance). The moon is outside the 
atmosphere and there is no friction.

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#463370

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-03 14:42 -0700
Message-ID<851083a2-32f6-443e-94d9-d24c3bcd2bba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463367
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 4:00:52 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:55:25 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:

> > That's the whole point, Ken. Eliminate friction as much as possible so
> > the only effects are the central force and momentum. Momentum is the
> > reason the Moon doesn't crash into the Earth even though there is only
> > a single attractive force of gravity, as Newton proved long ago.
> > The experiment being described has only a single attractive magnetic
> > force and momentum of the bob, with friction eliminated as much as 
> > possible.
> 
> Sigh.....if there is no force to maintain the momentum the moon will gradually crash into the earth. Similarly if there is no force to maintain the momentum, the pendulum bob will gradually crash into the magnet.

I am working on an (almost) full computer simulation that will include
magnetic, gravitational, and air friction contributions to the pendulum motions.

I am programming in C# because Javascript isn't fast enough. 

C# can come close to C++ in speed if one avoids using fancy constructs,
and C++ can likewise come close to C in speed.

   (However, it has long been untrue that C's virtual machine model can 
    be considered a near-perfect match to modern hardware design. But 
    discussing that is completely off-topic.)

The only factors that I can't yet include are losses through inelastic 
bending of the fishing line and losses through eddy current generation
in the washers, because I don't have any good data on those losses.

Yes, the pendulum will inevitably crash. But the reason will primarily be
air friction. I imagine that if I could set up a vacuum chamber, that the
experiment could run for several hours.

But I don't have a vacuum chamber. So I will have to settle for much
shorter experimental runs. 

The point is, I can MODEL these different effects and compare with 
experiment.

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#463381

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-03 15:49 -0700
Message-ID<5a205254-535c-48b1-94e9-effc0f0e76ac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463370
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 4:42:28 PM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:

> The only factors that I can't yet include are losses through inelastic 
> bending of the fishing line and losses through eddy current generation
> in the washers, 

... and the lead ball

> because I don't have any good data on those losses.

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#463761

FromRichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
Date2018-07-07 15:31 -0700
Message-ID<d4ad9ca5-002a-47bb-a427-cc08474a1702@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463370
On July 3, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> I am working on an (almost) full computer simulation that will include
> magnetic, gravitational, and air friction contributions to the pendulum motions.

Problem:  can you design a pendulum whose center of mass 
moves only vertically?

--
Rich

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#463336

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-03 08:03 -0700
Message-ID<f417a53c-621e-4234-a215-b452efe01bf7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463332
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 8:45:40 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 7:10:18 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 5:50:44 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:30:59 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 1:05:43 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > 
> > > > > How is your experiment demonstrates that a single force of attractive gravity can make the moon to have stable orbit around the earth?
> > > > 
> > > > It will demonstrate that the attractive force of a magnet can support
> > > > stable orbits, despite your claim of June 18.
> > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.relativity/A_X409P-bz0/w24-oVmHBQAJ 
> > > > 
> > > > The pendulum line substitutes for a smooth, nearly frictionless table.
> > > 
> > > No the heavy pendulum have momentum. That’s why the heavy pendulum at the university can swing back and forth without loosing any momentum. It is likely hat the magnet have little or no effect on your experiment.
> > 
> > You misread my answer. By "pendulum line", I meant the strand of fishing
> > line that will support the pendulum bob.
> 
> I didn’t misread your answer. The pendulum bob at the university is supported by a long thin steel line.
> 
> > 
> > The pendulum line will substitute for an almost flat, nearly frictionless
> > table by restricting the motions of the pendulum bob to a section of a 
> > very shallow sphere.
> 
> No, the pendulum bob’s momentum will allow it to maintain its motion.....so it is not due to the attractive force of the center magnet.

You forget that I have ***MEASURED*** the attractive force of the magnet 
at different distances.

Because of the roughly inverse fifth power fall-off of magnetic attraction
versus distance, I know that I will have to work at close distances for
the force of magnetic attraction to dominate over gravitation, even with
a 5 meter fishing line. Using a magnet poking through the table arrangement
and a 1 kg weight, the force of magnetic attraction at 5 cm will be 3 times
that of the radial force of gravity. Using the stacked washers alone,
magnetic attraction at that distance will be 35 times that of gravity. 

The magnets underneath arrangement does not allow as much magnetic 
attraction, but I can work with arbitrarily small orbital radii, and the
pendulum radial attractive force ***goes down*** with decreasing radius.

Plus, I can perform measurements both ***with and without*** the magnets. 
I presume that you know about "controlled experiments"? Or maybe you don't.   

There is no way that I can freehand launch pendulums with sufficient 
accuracy to achieve reproducible results, so I will be building calibrated
rubber band slingshots over the July 4 holiday.

I just finished this morning drilling an acrylic sheet for the magnet poking
through the table arrangement. I haven't removed the protective facing
plastic, accounting for the frosted appearance. But it will be clear after
I remove the facing sheets. There is one magnet poking above the sheet
resting on a spacer, and three magnets below the sheet.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1T17gNN-BNUqwtDROBC7VkwtcjULfF1n1

Another thing that I need to build is an open table to lay the sheet on so
that I can photograph from below. Since the sheet is only 18" x 24", the
legs of the table will need to be splayed out for me to crawl in and out
easily without fear of knocking into one of the legs. I have a fair amount
of waste wood in the garage. I won't have to spend much on new lumber.
  _____
 /     \
/  -o-  \  (me underneath the table)

Unfortunately, building the table will test my woodworking skills to the
limit. Up to now, my woodworking has been limited to regularly replacing
sections of fence that have gotten rotten over the years and/or blown down
by thunderstorm winds. 

I don't know if I will want to post a photograph of my table. We have
a professional woodworker here who might have some mean things to say of
my amateur efforts... :-)

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#463342

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-03 15:32 +0000
Message-ID<phg4um$18mf$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463336
Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 8:45:40 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 7:10:18 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 5:50:44 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
>>>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:30:59 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 1:05:43 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>> How is your experiment demonstrates that a single force of
>>>>>> attractive gravity can make the moon to have stable orbit around the earth?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It will demonstrate that the attractive force of a magnet can support
>>>>> stable orbits, despite your claim of June 18.
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.relativity/A_X409P-bz0/w24-oVmHBQAJ 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The pendulum line substitutes for a smooth, nearly frictionless table.
>>>> 
>>>> No the heavy pendulum have momentum. That’s why the heavy pendulum at
>>>> the university can swing back and forth without loosing any momentum.
>>>> It is likely hat the magnet have little or no effect on your experiment.
>>> 
>>> You misread my answer. By "pendulum line", I meant the strand of fishing
>>> line that will support the pendulum bob.
>> 
>> I didn’t misread your answer. The pendulum bob at the university is
>> supported by a long thin steel line.
>> 
>>> 
>>> The pendulum line will substitute for an almost flat, nearly frictionless
>>> table by restricting the motions of the pendulum bob to a section of a 
>>> very shallow sphere.
>> 
>> No, the pendulum bob’s momentum will allow it to maintain its
>> motion.....so it is not due to the attractive force of the center magnet.
> 
> You forget that I have ***MEASURED*** the attractive force of the magnet 
> at different distances.
> 
> Because of the roughly inverse fifth power fall-off of magnetic attraction
> versus distance, I know that I will have to work at close distances for
> the force of magnetic attraction to dominate over gravitation, even with
> a 5 meter fishing line. Using a magnet poking through the table arrangement
> and a 1 kg weight, the force of magnetic attraction at 5 cm will be 3 times
> that of the radial force of gravity. Using the stacked washers alone,
> magnetic attraction at that distance will be 35 times that of gravity. 
> 
> The magnets underneath arrangement does not allow as much magnetic 
> attraction, but I can work with arbitrarily small orbital radii, and the
> pendulum radial attractive force ***goes down*** with decreasing radius.
> 
> Plus, I can perform measurements both ***with and without*** the magnets. 
> I presume that you know about "controlled experiments"? Or maybe you don't.   
> 
> There is no way that I can freehand launch pendulums with sufficient 
> accuracy to achieve reproducible results, so I will be building calibrated
> rubber band slingshots over the July 4 holiday.
> 
> I just finished this morning drilling an acrylic sheet for the magnet poking
> through the table arrangement. I haven't removed the protective facing
> plastic, accounting for the frosted appearance. But it will be clear after
> I remove the facing sheets. There is one magnet poking above the sheet
> resting on a spacer, and three magnets below the sheet.
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1T17gNN-BNUqwtDROBC7VkwtcjULfF1n1
> 
> Another thing that I need to build is an open table to lay the sheet on so
> that I can photograph from below. Since the sheet is only 18" x 24", the
> legs of the table will need to be splayed out for me to crawl in and out
> easily without fear of knocking into one of the legs. I have a fair amount
> of waste wood in the garage. I won't have to spend much on new lumber.
>   _____
>  /     \
> /  -o-  \  (me underneath the table)
> 
> Unfortunately, building the table will test my woodworking skills to the
> limit. Up to now, my woodworking has been limited to regularly replacing
> sections of fence that have gotten rotten over the years and/or blown down
> by thunderstorm winds. 
> 
> I don't know if I will want to post a photograph of my table. We have
> a professional woodworker here who might have some mean things to say of
> my amateur efforts... :-)
> 

Don’t splay the legs. It makes the whole thing harder. Make a table wide
enough the you can fit comfortably between the legs. I presume that you
will have an open box frame at the top that is perhaps 36”x24”. Then just
put in a couple of joists 24” long spaced 18” apart. This is small enough
that 2x4s will make it plenty stiff, and you can buy rubber 2x4 caps for
about 75 cents each to make nonslip feet. This will consume three 8’ 2x4
boards and take about 20 minutes to hammer together. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463345

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-03 08:49 -0700
Message-ID<75e9a796-f02a-49e3-823b-8b82fc1f468b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463342
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:32:42 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> Don’t splay the legs. It makes the whole thing harder. Make a table wide
> enough the you can fit comfortably between the legs. I presume that you
> will have an open box frame at the top that is perhaps 36”x24”. Then just
> put in a couple of joists 24” long spaced 18” apart. This is small enough
> that 2x4s will make it plenty stiff, and you can buy rubber 2x4 caps for
> about 75 cents each to make nonslip feet. This will consume three 8’ 2x4
> boards and take about 20 minutes to hammer together. 

Thanks. I'll gladly take the advice of a professional! :-)

As I've stated before, Ken: "...the collective insights of a group in 
general vastly exceed the intelligence that a lone individual can bear 
on a problem."

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#463373

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-03 14:56 -0700
Message-ID<595e3612-5e77-4cf6-b5d9-c99dd6e43268@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463345
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 11:49:11 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:32:42 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> > Don’t splay the legs. It makes the whole thing harder. Make a table wide
> > enough the you can fit comfortably between the legs. I presume that you
> > will have an open box frame at the top that is perhaps 36”x24”. Then just
> > put in a couple of joists 24” long spaced 18” apart. This is small enough
> > that 2x4s will make it plenty stiff, and you can buy rubber 2x4 caps for
> > about 75 cents each to make nonslip feet. This will consume three 8’ 2x4
> > boards and take about 20 minutes to hammer together. 
> 
> Thanks. I'll gladly take the advice of a professional! :-)
> 
> As I've stated before, Ken: "...the collective insights of a group in 
> general vastly exceed the intelligence that a lone individual can bear 
> on a problem."

Clearly your device will not be able to maintain a stable orbit for a long time. The continuous attractive force of the magnet will gradually overcome the momentum of the pendulum bob and cause it to crash into the magnet. Furthermore, there are more than one attractive force of the magnet.....the fish line have an attractive component on the pendulum bob and cause it to move toward the magnet.  In addition even if you were able to maintain a stable orbit, it is not the same as the moon orbiting the earth....the moon is not attached to any fish line and it is able to maintain stable orbit. This means that the moon must be subjected  to a continuous force that enables it to maintain its momentum that enables it to have a stable orbit. 

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#463375

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-03 15:02 -0700
Message-ID<fae51665-3a13-40e5-9c4b-35f2506b77bd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463373
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 4:56:52 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 11:49:11 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:32:42 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > 
> > > Don’t splay the legs. It makes the whole thing harder. Make a table wide
> > > enough the you can fit comfortably between the legs. I presume that you
> > > will have an open box frame at the top that is perhaps 36”x24”. Then just
> > > put in a couple of joists 24” long spaced 18” apart. This is small enough
> > > that 2x4s will make it plenty stiff, and you can buy rubber 2x4 caps for
> > > about 75 cents each to make nonslip feet. This will consume three 8’ 2x4
> > > boards and take about 20 minutes to hammer together. 
> > 
> > Thanks. I'll gladly take the advice of a professional! :-)
> > 
> > As I've stated before, Ken: "...the collective insights of a group in 
> > general vastly exceed the intelligence that a lone individual can bear 
> > on a problem."
> 
> Clearly your device will not be able to maintain a stable orbit for a long time. The continuous attractive force of the magnet will gradually overcome the momentum of the pendulum bob and cause it to crash into the magnet. 

No, the long term issue will primarily be AIR FRICTION.

AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!
AIR FRICTION!!!

> Furthermore, there are more than one attractive force of the magnet.....the fish line have an attractive component on the pendulum bob and cause it to move toward the magnet.  In addition even if you were able to maintain a stable orbit, it is not the same as the moon orbiting the earth....the moon is not attached to any fish line and it is able to maintain stable orbit. This means that the moon must be subjected  to a continuous force that enables it to maintain its momentum that enables it to have a stable orbit.

You are pretty hopeless, you know that?

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#463387

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-03 17:45 -0700
Message-ID<05471cba-bd77-49f0-8133-790e102a9410@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463375
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 6:02:06 PM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 4:56:52 PM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 11:49:11 AM UTC-4, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:32:42 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Don’t splay the legs. It makes the whole thing harder. Make a table wide
> > > > enough the you can fit comfortably between the legs. I presume that you
> > > > will have an open box frame at the top that is perhaps 36”x24”. Then just
> > > > put in a couple of joists 24” long spaced 18” apart. This is small enough
> > > > that 2x4s will make it plenty stiff, and you can buy rubber 2x4 caps for
> > > > about 75 cents each to make nonslip feet. This will consume three 8’ 2x4
> > > > boards and take about 20 minutes to hammer together. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks. I'll gladly take the advice of a professional! :-)
> > > 
> > > As I've stated before, Ken: "...the collective insights of a group in 
> > > general vastly exceed the intelligence that a lone individual can bear 
> > > on a problem."
> > 
> > Clearly your device will not be able to maintain a stable orbit for a long time. The continuous attractive force of the magnet will gradually overcome the momentum of the pendulum bob and cause it to crash into the magnet. 
> 
> No, the long term issue will primarily be AIR FRICTION.
> 
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!
> AIR FRICTION!!!

No, not just air friction. The attractive magnetic force is continuous and the attractive component of the fish line is continuous. The momentum of the pendulum bob is not continuously maintained at full strength because of the attractive force of the magnet and the fishline are continuously pulling on it.

> 
> > Furthermore, there are more than one attractive force: the attractive magnetic.....the fish line have an attractive component on the pendulum bob and cause it to move toward the magnet.  In addition even if you were able to maintain a stable orbit, it is not the same as the moon orbiting the earth....the moon is not attached to any fish line and it is able to maintain stable orbit. This means that the moon must be subjected  to a continuous force that enables it to maintain its momentum that enables it to have a stable orbit.
> 
> You are pretty hopeless, you know that?

I say the same to you bunch naive physicists.

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