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Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates

Started bykenseto <setoken@att.net>
First post2018-04-06 09:37 -0700
Last post2018-04-24 21:31 -0700
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  Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-06 09:37 -0700
    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-04-06 19:30 +0200
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-06 13:28 -0700
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 14:57 -0700
        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-07 07:15 -0700
          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 18:49 -0700
            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-09 06:29 -0700
        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Ovské Bezvýjimeènì <obe@cwkawns.na> - 2018-04-07 17:42 +0000
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-07 08:50 -0700
    Re:Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-04-06 19:40 +0200
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-04-06 19:52 +0200
      Re:Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Ovské Bezvýjimeènì <obe@cwkawns.na> - 2018-04-06 18:47 +0000
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 23:51 -0700
    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-06 14:43 -0400
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-06 13:32 -0700
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-04-06 22:37 +0200
    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 15:01 -0700
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-07 07:19 -0700
        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 12:24 -0700
          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-07 12:38 -0700
            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 16:48 -0700
              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-08 04:12 -0700
                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 06:50 -0700
                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-09 06:26 -0700
                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 06:36 -0700
                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 18:06 +0000
              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-08 04:50 -0700
            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-08 16:42 +0000
              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-08 14:00 -0700
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 10:52 +0100
        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-18 05:41 -0700
          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 18:37 +0100
            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-19 07:55 -0700
              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 10:49 +0100
                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-20 05:13 -0700
                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-20 05:27 -0700
                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-20 06:59 -0700
                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-20 07:11 -0700
                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-20 20:17 -0700
                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-20 20:53 -0700
                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-21 07:02 -0700
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 08:09 -0700
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-21 10:26 -0700
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-21 18:37 +0000
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 12:37 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-21 21:46 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-22 05:54 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 06:53 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-22 07:50 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 08:27 -0700
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-23 08:35 -0700
                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 10:04 -0700
                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates, Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-23 18:00 +0000
                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-20 11:45 -0400
                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-20 20:29 -0700
                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-21 10:27 -0400
                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-22 06:19 -0700
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-22 10:35 -0400
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-22 08:19 -0700
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-22 15:35 -0400
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-23 13:00 +0000
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-23 08:32 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-23 12:27 -0400
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-23 16:38 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 16:59 -0700
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-23 21:20 -0400
                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 07:07 -0700
                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-24 10:50 -0400
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-23 20:50 -0400
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 07:19 -0700
                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-24 10:57 -0400
                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 09:37 -0700
                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-24 13:30 -0400
                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:26 -0700
                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-20 20:51 -0700
                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-21 05:52 -0700
                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-21 06:59 -0700
                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 10:03 -0700
                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 13:29 -0700
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-24 15:16 -0700
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 00:47 +0000
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 09:18 -0700
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-25 11:38 -0700
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 11:49 -0700
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 19:59 +0000
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-25 14:04 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 21:45 +0000
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-25 21:33 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 13:01 +0000
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-26 07:04 -0700
                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 14:32 +0000
                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-26 16:36 +0200
                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-26 09:28 -0700
                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-26 09:28 -0700
                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 16:49 +0000
                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-26 10:28 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-26 16:54 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 17:23 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 01:04 +0000
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 09:54 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-29 05:32 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-29 14:01 +0000
            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 08:48 -0700
              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 11:15 +0100
                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:26 -0700
                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 10:34 +0100
                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 10:53 -0700
                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 21:52 +0100
                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-27 21:30 +0000
                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 05:31 +0100
                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-28 11:02 +0000
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 09:22 +0100
                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-28 08:59 -0500
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-28 19:19 +0000
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-28 13:37 -0700
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 10:14 +0100
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 11:46 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-30 19:20 +0000
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 13:36 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-05-01 10:55 +0000
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-30 12:30 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 19:58 +0000
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 14:01 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-05-01 11:00 +0000
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-30 21:13 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-05-01 10:57 +0000
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 10:01 +0100
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-29 11:11 -0500
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 18:25 +0100
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-02 15:35 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 22:08 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-03 05:47 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 09:41 +0100
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 17:16 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-08 09:38 -0500
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 18:41 +0100
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-10 10:23 -0500
                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 10:20 -0700
                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 19:19 +0100
                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 11:36 -0700
                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 21:27 +0100
                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 14:45 -0700
                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 14:04 +0100
                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 15:07 -0700
                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-13 20:49 -0700
                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-13 20:57 -0700
                                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-14 00:35 -0700
                                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-14 03:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> - 2018-05-14 16:58 +0000
                                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-14 17:41 +0000
                                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> - 2018-05-14 18:05 +0000
                                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 11:26 -0700
                                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-14 11:44 -0700
                                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 11:50 -0700
                                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 20:23 -0700
                                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> - 2018-05-14 19:28 +0000
                                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-14 19:25 +0000
                                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 13:23 -0700
                                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 13:34 -0700
                                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 20:14 +0100
                                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-14 19:41 +0000
                                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 21:18 +0100
                                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-14 20:48 +0000
                                                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-14 21:23 -0700
                                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 15:37 -0700
                                                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 12:20 +0100
                                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 15:22 -0700
                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 07:48 +0100
                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-14 04:07 -0700
                                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 20:45 +0100
                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 12:22 -0700
                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 15:15 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-08 11:00 -0400
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 08:11 +0100
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 22:07 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:31 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 09:01 +0100
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 16:58 -0700
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-29 21:22 -0700
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:22 -0700
                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-29 05:40 -0700
                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-29 14:12 +0000
                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-29 08:35 -0700
                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 18:51 +0100
                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-30 06:14 -0700
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 19:14 +0100
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-30 14:40 -0400
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 20:23 +0100
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-30 16:57 -0400
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 23:04 +0100
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-30 15:24 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 02:40 +0100
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-30 22:35 +0000
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-08 10:19 -0500
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 10:30 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 13:25 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-09 21:05 +0000
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-09 21:07 +0000
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 12:35 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-10 10:25 -0500
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 10:23 -0700
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-01 09:15 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-01 12:50 -0400
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-02 04:57 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-02 08:33 -0400
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 05:54 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-02 07:43 -0700
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-01 08:43 -0700
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-01 09:25 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 17:55 +0100
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-01 14:49 -0400
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-01 11:50 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 20:15 +0100
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 20:34 +0100
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-01 13:01 -0700
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 22:11 +0100
                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-01 14:51 -0700
                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 02:15 +0100
                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-01 19:48 -0700
                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 04:24 +0100
                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-02 05:22 -0700
                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 05:31 -0700
                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 14:50 +0100
                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 17:28 +0100
                                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-02 12:16 -0700
                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-06 19:45 -0700
                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-01 21:21 -0700
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-01 09:56 -0700
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 18:52 +0100
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-02 05:06 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 12:52 +0000
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 05:57 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-02 07:46 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 17:35 +0000
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 11:51 -0700
                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 19:17 +0000
                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 12:40 -0700
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-03 05:56 -0700
                                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 13:16 +0000
                                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-05 05:16 -0700
                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-05 17:40 +0000
                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-06 00:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 17:34 -0700
                                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 15:24 +0000
                                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-09 05:57 -0700
                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-09 11:07 -0400
                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-09 13:43 -0700
                                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-09 17:29 -0400
                                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 15:53 +0000
                                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-09 11:57 -0700
                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 18:57 -0700
                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 10:20 +0100
                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 17:21 -0700
                              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:55 +0100
                                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 07:26 -0700
                                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 06:29 +0100
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-10 10:16 -0500
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 06:27 +0100
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-11 04:51 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 17:48 +0100
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-11 11:25 -0700
                                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 05:36 -0700
                                          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 14:40 +0100
                                            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 05:48 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> - 2018-05-15 19:56 +0000
                                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 05:13 -0700
                                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 08:38 +0100
    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 10:36 -0700
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 18:08 +0000
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-10 04:44 -0700
        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:49 -0700
          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 09:23 -0700
          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-11 15:20 -0700
            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 22:35 +0000
            Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 15:55 -0700
              Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-12 06:31 -0700
                Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-12 14:13 -0700
                  Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-13 05:27 -0700
                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 08:08 -0700
                    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-19 21:54 +0000
                      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-19 20:26 -0700
                        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-20 07:50 +0000
    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 23:41 -0700
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-11 15:01 -0700
        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-04-15 22:26 -0700
          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:21 +0100
    Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 15:21 -0700
      Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-11 15:36 -0700
        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-19 21:35 +0000
        Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 17:48 -0700
          Re: Gedanken proves that clocks in relative motion accumulate clock seconds at different rates mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-24 21:31 -0700

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#457757

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-10 21:27 +0100
Message-ID<tW1JC.354839$LD3.49145@fx18.am4>
In reply to#457754
On 10/05/2018 19:36, rotchm wrote:
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 2:19:45 PM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
>> On 10/05/2018 16:23, Tom Roberts wrote:
> 
>>> There are two quite different meanings for the symbol 'c':
>>
>> No wonder i'm confused.
> 
> That, you are...
> 
>>>    (1) the vacuum speed of light
>>>    (2) the symmetry speed of geometry, including the Lorentz transform
>>
>> That's not a term i've heard before
> 
> Thats because you are (still?) ignorant. You dont have enough experience and you don not know how to use google.

Google still doesn't seem to know what "SYMMETRY SPEED OF GEOMETRY" is.
                  Maybe i doing it wrong eh!
ANYONE PLEASE HELP - POST ANY RELEVANT LINK from GOOGLE HERE:-


>>   and even Google does not  know what the
>> "symmetry speed of geometry"
> 
> If you knew how to use google, you would find what it means. If you were smart, you would figure out on your own what it means.

I must be very dumb eh!

>> And would i of been correct had i saidL
>>        If the symmetry speed of geometry was infinite
> 
> That would be a different geometry, a different model.
> 
>> then the discrepancy between the clocks would be zero...."

but even a dummy like me can see that if the speed of the signal 
connecting the clocks was infinite, the discrepancy between the clocks 
would be zero eh!

> But actual clocks DO show a discrepancy , hence your proposed
> model (infinite SoL geometry) would not be an appropriate one.
> 
>> And yet you can't show me one experiment were clocks differ
>> by so much as 1 micro second when reunited eh!
> 
> There are zillions of such exps. Google is your friend; learn to use it!

I repeat:

	     "you can't show me one experiment were clocks differ
               by so much as 1 micro second when reunited"

and if you Rotchm, OR INDEED ANYONE, can use google to prove this wrong, 
then please post the relevant link here eh!



> Or, you can do the exp yourself. With modern atomic clocks (that you can loan), do the exp on your own. Are u afraid of the results u would get?

I repeat:

	     "you can't show me one experiment were clocks differ
               by so much as 1 micro second when reunited"

keith stein

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#457759

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-10 14:45 -0700
Message-ID<3652d752-aa98-470c-9738-445fa38b6391@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457757
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:27:07 PM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 10/05/2018 19:36, rotchm wrote:


>                   Maybe i doing it wrong eh!

Yup.

> > If you were smart, you would figure out on your own what it means.
> 
> I must be very dumb eh!

Yes. Now that u agree on that, leave this place, leave us alone, go study for a few years, take math & physics courses, pass them, *then* come back here. Thats the way to proceed. 



> > There are zillions of such exps. Google is your friend; learn to use it!
> 
> I repeat:
> 
> 	     "you can't show me one experiment were clocks differ
>                by so much as 1 micro second when reunited"
> 
> and if you Rotchm, OR INDEED ANYONE,

Tell you what. Send me 100$ and I will provide you with such doc. 

> > Or, you can do the exp yourself. With modern atomic clocks 
> > (that you can loan), do the exp on your own. Are u afraid 
> > of the results u would get?

No answer? So, yes you are afraid of the results. You are a typical reality denier. That, and a troll looking for a fix. 

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#457778

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-11 14:04 +0100
Message-ID<yxgJC.259113$sl2.90938@fx46.am4>
In reply to#457759
  A.EINSTEIN (1905) wrote:
 >>  "If one of two synchronous clocks at A is moved in a closed curve
 >>   with a constant velocity until it returns to A, the journey lasting
 >>   t seconds,then by the clock which has remained at rest the traveled
 >>   clock on its arrival at A will be (1/2)(tv^2/c^2) seconds slow"


K.STEIN (2005 ish) wrote:
    "ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCHRONIZED CLOCKS,
     WHICH CAN BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE SPEED OF THE SIGNAL
     CONNECTING THE CLOCKS, MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER THE CLOCKS
     ARE BROUGHT TO ANY COMMON LOCATION."


On 10/05/2018 16:16, Tom Roberts wrote:
 > Today is not 1905, and we have learned A LOT since then. You should do
 > some learning too, instead of wasting your time posting nonsense to
 > the 'net.

And with all your modern knowledge what exactly would you predict for 
the outcome of this simple experiment, Mr.Roberts ?

 >>>>>>>>       >> 1. SYNCHRONIZE TWO CLOCKS.
 >>>>>>>>       >> 2. FLY ONE TO THE ISS.
 >>>>>>>>       >> 3. NEXT FLIGHT UP TAKE UP THE OTHER.
 >>>>>>>>       >> 4. COMPARE THE 2 CLOCKS ON THE ISS.


On 10/05/2018 22:45, rotchm wrote:
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:27:07 PM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:

>> I repeat:
>>
>> 	     "you can't show me one experiment were clocks differ
>>                 by so much as 1 micro second when reunited"

> No answer? So, yes you are afraid of the results. You are a 
> typical reality denier. That, and a troll looking for a fix.

I have made it very clear that i think there would be no discrepancy
between the clocks when compared on the ISS, but i am not at all sure
what you would predict Mr.Rotchm ?

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#457862

FromSteve BH <sbharris@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-13 15:07 -0700
Message-ID<da0b905d-06ad-4b6e-8144-6207a3341464@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457757
What’s the point of a microsecond = 1000 ns? If the caliladed and observed effect of going up a mountain is 18 ns a day and your 6 atomic clocks are accurate an stand to 2 ns a day, then you only have to be up the mountain a day before your signal is 9 times your error. That’s enough.

http://www.leapsecond.com/great2016a/

No point in staying up there two months just to please YOU. You’d just pick some other arbitrary goal.

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#457865

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-13 20:49 -0700
Message-ID<58086734-5970-42c0-9191-1befa6aa6ae9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457862
On Monday, 14 May 2018 00:07:38 UTC+2, Steve BH  wrote:
> What’s the point of a microsecond = 1000 ns? If the caliladed and observed effect of going up a mountain is 18 ns a day and your 6 atomic clocks are accurate


They are accurate enough for your moronic games, but not
for a serious measurement system. Anyone can check at GPS.

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#457867

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2018-05-13 20:57 -0700
Message-ID<11d79051-e7d1-4041-a9c1-7ce6e8d61265@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457865
On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 9:49:30 PM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>
> On Monday, 14 May 2018 00:07:38 UTC+2, Steve BH  wrote:
> >
> > What’s the point of a microsecond = 1000 ns? If the caliladed and
> > observed effect of going up a mountain is 18 ns a day and your 6
> > atomic clocks are accurate
> 
> 
> They are accurate enough for your moronic games, but not
> for a serious measurement system. Anyone can check at GPS.

Oh, stop all the raving and spitting.  After all, you can't do anything
more than that and it doesn't change anything.  The truth is that you'll
lie about anything.

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#457871

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-14 00:35 -0700
Message-ID<25278564-692c-48f5-920e-799528244947@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457867
On Monday, 14 May 2018 05:57:39 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel  wrote:
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 9:49:30 PM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, 14 May 2018 00:07:38 UTC+2, Steve BH  wrote:
> > >
> > > What’s the point of a microsecond = 1000 ns? If the caliladed and
> > > observed effect of going up a mountain is 18 ns a day and your 6
> > > atomic clocks are accurate
> > 
> > 
> > They are accurate enough for your moronic games, but not
> > for a serious measurement system. Anyone can check at GPS.
> 
> Oh, stop all the raving and spitting.  After all, you can't do anything
> more than that and it doesn't change anything.  The truth is that you'll
> lie about anything.

Oh, stop all the raving and spitting.  After all, you can't do anything
more than that and it doesn't change anything.  Your moronic cult of 
"proper" desynchronizing clocks didn't establish.

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#457875

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2018-05-14 03:31 -0700
Message-ID<6cacf340-0bc9-4eba-9f17-d62a42f25f97@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457871
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:35:57 AM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>
> On Monday, 14 May 2018 05:57:39 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel  wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 9:49:30 PM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, 14 May 2018 00:07:38 UTC+2, Steve BH  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What’s the point of a microsecond = 1000 ns? If the caliladed and
> > > > observed effect of going up a mountain is 18 ns a day and your 6
> > > > atomic clocks are accurate
> > > 
> > > 
> > > They are accurate enough for your moronic games, but not
> > > for a serious measurement system. Anyone can check at GPS.
> > 
> > Oh, stop all the raving and spitting.  After all, you can't do anything
> > more than that and it doesn't change anything.  The truth is that you'll
> > lie about anything.
> 
> Oh, stop all the raving and spitting.  After all, you can't do anything
> more than that and it doesn't change anything.

All your empty head can do is repeat what others have said? 

> A  Your moronic cult of "proper" desynchronizing clocks didn't establish.

Didn't "establish" what?  You can't even write a complete sentence unless
you're copying someone else?  How sad!

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#457889

FromUrsula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id>
Date2018-05-14 16:58 +0000
Message-ID<pdcf85$120o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#457875
Gary Harnagel wrote:

>> Oh, stop all the raving and spitting.  After all, you can't do anything
>> more than that and it doesn't change anything.
> 
> All your empty head can do is repeat what others have said?
> 
>> A  Your moronic cult of "proper" desynchronizing clocks didn't
>> establish.
> 
> Didn't "establish" what?  You can't even write a complete sentence
> unless you're copying someone else?  How sad!

Rave and spit, moren, what can you do. GPS doesn't need that accuracy, nor 
synchronous clocks, nor relativity corrections. GLONASS works with no 
relativity corrections aT all.

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#457892

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-05-14 17:41 +0000
Message-ID<pdchp1$e5j$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#457889
The nymshifting troll, trolling as Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> trolled:

>Gary Harnagel wrote:

>>> Oh, stop all the raving and spitting.  After all, you can't do anything
>>> more than that and it doesn't change anything.
>> 
>> All your empty head can do is repeat what others have said?
>> 
>>> A  Your moronic cult of "proper" desynchronizing clocks didn't
>>> establish.
>> 
>> Didn't "establish" what?  You can't even write a complete sentence
>> unless you're copying someone else?  How sad!

>Rave and spit, moren, what can you do. GPS doesn't need that accuracy, nor 
>synchronous clocks, nor relativity corrections. GLONASS works with no 
>relativity corrections aT all.

Wrong. GLONASS has a different correction value from being in a different orbit
but it is still necessary.

GLONASS transmits at 4.99999999782 MHz and the signal is received on the ground
at 5.0 MHz.

One difference is that the GPS system has to account for orbital eccentricity
while GLONASS simply broadcasts its current eccentricity so the receiver
doesn't have to calculate it.

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#457895

FromUrsula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id>
Date2018-05-14 18:05 +0000
Message-ID<pdcj4g$1e17$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#457892
> Wrong. GLONASS has a different correction value from being in a
> different orbit but it is still necessary.

Okay, but the chinese system, say its name, doesn't need any of whatever 
you are implying inthere.

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#457896

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-14 11:26 -0700
Message-ID<2dbee9bb-b4aa-4b9b-b1b6-c0bac709d1bd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457895
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-5, Ursula Vankeuren wrote:
> > Wrong. GLONASS has a different correction value from being in a
> > different orbit but it is still necessary.
> 
> Okay, but the chinese system, say its name, doesn't need any of whatever 
> you are implying inthere.

Are you referring to the OLD Beidou or the NEW Beidou?

The OLD Beidou used two-way communications between the portable units and 
the satellites. The portable units needed to be carried in backpacks. The
system was not designed for general consumer use, but was specialized for
use by the army, agricultural applications, etc. The two-way protocol
allowed the system to get away without using accurate clocks.

Satellites in the NEW Beidou system carry atomic clocks, and yes, the 
satellite clocks are corrected for GR effects.

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#457897

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-14 11:44 -0700
Message-ID<639ce8c1-45fb-4520-9ffa-454181705b48@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457896
On Monday, 14 May 2018 20:26:57 UTC+2, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog  wrote:

> Satellites in the NEW Beidou system carry atomic clocks, and yes, the 
> satellite clocks are corrected for GR effects.

A lie, of course, as expected from relativistic trash. 
Your Shit's MAIN assumption is - atomic clocks don't 
need any corrections.

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#457898

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-14 11:50 -0700
Message-ID<a981135e-60a1-408e-a7d3-46d2a302e35e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457896
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:26:57 PM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-5, Ursula Vankeuren wrote:
> > > Wrong. GLONASS has a different correction value from being in a
> > > different orbit but it is still necessary.
> > 
> > Okay, but the chinese system, say its name, doesn't need any of whatever 
> > you are implying inthere.
> 
> Are you referring to the OLD Beidou or the NEW Beidou?
> 
> The OLD Beidou used two-way communications between the portable units and 
> the satellites. The portable units needed to be carried in backpacks. The
> system was not designed for general consumer use, but was specialized for
> use by the army, agricultural applications, etc. The two-way protocol
> allowed the system to get away without using accurate clocks.
> 
> Satellites in the NEW Beidou system carry atomic clocks, and yes, the 
> satellite clocks are corrected for GR effects.

I looked up some of my old notes. Beidou-1 used two geostationary satellites
above China. The satellites acted as active transponders for the portable
unit. The portable units also carried topographic maps of China. With 
accurate radar ranging information to the two satellites, the portable unit 
could locate the user on the topographic map. 

As a two-way system, Beidou-1 could support a maximum of 150 concurrent 
users. 

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#457950

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-14 20:23 -0700
Message-ID<8557a0ba-86df-4c32-b0b5-0a95bacd93b8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457898
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:50:09 PM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:

> I looked up some of my old notes. Beidou-1 used two geostationary satellites
> above China. The satellites acted as active transponders for the portable
> unit. The portable units also carried topographic maps of China. With 
> accurate radar ranging information to the two satellites, the portable unit 
> could locate the user on the topographic map. 
> 
> As a two-way system, Beidou-1 could support a maximum of 150 concurrent 
> users.

Whoops! I made a big boo-boo. The "portable" units did not carry topographic
maps. Also involved in the ranging system was a *ground station*, which the
satellites were in communications with. From the two-way ranging information
between a portable unit and the satellites, the ground station would 
pinpoint the user's location on a topographic map of China, and would
transmit the information back to the user, relaying through the satellites.

I can't find on the internet any current photograph of a "portable" unit.
I remember a photograph of a Chinese infantryman carrying a portable unit in
his backpack... 

 

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#457902

FromUrsula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id>
Date2018-05-14 19:28 +0000
Message-ID<pdco0a$1mee$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#457896
Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:

> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-5, Ursula Vankeuren wrote:
>> > Wrong. GLONASS has a different correction value from being in a
>> > different orbit but it is still necessary.
>> 
>> Okay, but the chinese system, say its name, doesn't need any of
>> whatever you are implying inthere.
> 
> Satellites in the NEW Beidou system carry atomic clocks, and yes, the
> satellite clocks are corrected for GR effects.

That would potentially start the biggest scandal in the history of Modern 
Science, since those corrections are not needed because of that.

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#457901

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-05-14 19:25 +0000
Message-ID<pdcnrg$6vd$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#457895
The nymshifting troll, trolling as Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> trolls:

>> Wrong. GLONASS has a different correction value from being in a
>> different orbit but it is still necessary.

>Okay, but the chinese system, say its name, doesn't need any of whatever 
>you are implying inthere.

The EU system (Galileo) and the new Chinese system (Beidou-2) use a
different algorithm based on a different model. Their system is pure GR
while GLONASS and GPS assume a Newtonian model with GR corrections tacked
on.

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#457910

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-14 13:23 -0700
Message-ID<e87b2ed6-4e00-4d82-b529-b61c70044c55@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457901
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
> The nymshifting troll, trolling as Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> trolls:
> 
> >> Wrong. GLONASS has a different correction value from being in a
> >> different orbit but it is still necessary.
> 
> >Okay, but the chinese system, say its name, doesn't need any of whatever 
> >you are implying inthere.
> 
> The EU system (Galileo) and the new Chinese system (Beidou-2) use a
> different algorithm based on a different model. Their system is pure GR
> while GLONASS and GPS assume a Newtonian model with GR corrections tacked
> on.

Not exactly. The reason why you do not see hardcoded correction values 
in Interface Control Documents for Galileo and Beidou is that
1) They are intended to be *more precise* than older GNSS systems.
2) A hardcoded GR correction will not be sufficiently precise to meet newer,
   more stringent specs.
3) This is because satellite insertions are not exact. 
4) A typical satellite will be inserted into an orbit a few hundred
   meters above or below nominal. Why waste valuable fuel maneuvering a
   satellite to an exact altitude when you can adjust the clock frequency?
5) Also, rubidium gas cell clocks suffer glitches due to the stress of
   launch, and their frequencies drift slightly as the clocks age.

Unlike the digital PLL frequency synthesizers used in older generation
satellites, current GNSS satellites can perform fine tuning of the clock
frequency.



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#457912

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-14 13:34 -0700
Message-ID<4f1d0132-9ccc-4b58-a884-342a075d2458@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#457910
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 3:23:49 PM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:

> Unlike the digital PLL frequency synthesizers used in older generation
> satellites, current GNSS satellites can perform fine tuning of the clock
> frequency.

The amazing thing, is that they can do so without introducing jitter!!!

Oh, sure, with older dual divisor digital PLL frequency synthesizers, you
could *conceivably* have adjusted the frequencies from the ground by
reprogramming the divisors, but the satellites would have had to be taken
out of service while being reprogrammed.

Technology is always improving... :-)

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#457899

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-14 20:14 +0100
Message-ID<MelKC.272545$yN1.12271@fx28.am4>
In reply to#457892
On 14/05/2018 18:41, Michael Moroney wrote:
> The nymshifting troll, trolling as Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> trolled:
> 
>> Rave and spit, moren, what can you do. GPS doesn't need that accuracy, nor
>> synchronous clocks, nor relativity corrections. GLONASS works with no
>> relativity corrections aT all.

I don't doubt you are right Ursula. All satellite navigation systems 
employ a feedback mechanism, so that if the measured coordinates of, for 
example, Greenwich observatory are measured as anything other than where
it where it is known to be, they simply adjust the clocks to bring the 
measure coordinates back to what they should be eh!

> Wrong. GLONASS has a different correction value from being in a different orbit
> but it is still necessary.
> 
> GLONASS transmits at 4.99999999782 MHz and the signal is received on the ground
> at 5.0 MHz.

Bull shit. As the satellite is approaching the signal will be Doppler 
shifted to a higher frequency. As the satellite is receding the signal
will be Doppler shifted to a lower frequency, and somewhere roughly
overhead, the received signal must be exactly the same as that 
transmitted eh!

keith stein

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