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| Started by | kenseto <setoken@att.net> |
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| First post | 2018-04-24 08:24 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-05-07 14:15 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 195 — 18 participants |
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EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 08:24 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-24 09:07 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 09:27 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 16:30 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 10:19 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 18:13 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-24 11:30 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 13:55 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-24 09:31 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 10:22 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-24 19:25 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-24 10:31 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 18:13 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-24 11:31 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-24 18:34 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 10:39 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-24 19:42 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-04-24 21:40 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 14:22 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 16:27 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 10:14 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-24 19:21 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 18:13 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 13:50 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 00:43 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-24 21:29 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 04:44 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-25 06:12 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-25 15:21 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-25 06:38 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 07:17 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 08:33 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 11:36 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 16:34 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-25 21:36 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-25 11:47 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-25 09:39 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 11:35 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-25 15:50 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 14:06 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-25 17:21 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-26 16:38 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-26 21:07 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-25 12:56 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-25 14:02 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 14:28 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-25 15:34 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-25 21:34 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-26 16:50 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-26 18:04 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-28 05:55 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-28 13:10 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-28 07:56 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-28 08:53 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-29 06:03 -0700
Re: Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-28 16:22 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 13:23 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 14:04 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-28 16:50 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-29 06:11 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 18:40 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-30 05:53 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-30 09:09 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-30 06:24 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-30 16:08 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-30 11:46 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-30 15:04 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-30 22:06 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-01 05:03 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 12:39 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-01 14:57 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-02 08:02 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-02 17:42 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-02 17:45 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 10:09 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-03 14:53 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-03 06:17 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-03 15:48 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-03 07:13 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-03 16:16 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-03 08:04 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-03 07:08 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-03 16:15 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 15:32 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-03 10:59 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-03 14:33 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-04 06:26 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-04 07:18 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-05 05:50 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-05 15:27 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-05 06:55 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-05 07:29 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-05 16:40 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-06 06:40 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-06 16:49 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-05 09:17 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-06 06:50 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 17:33 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-07 05:20 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 07:26 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-07 18:07 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 12:01 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-07 12:15 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 12:50 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-07 13:22 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 13:52 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:08 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:12 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:22 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-07 21:18 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-08 04:53 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-08 10:37 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-08 09:45 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-08 13:21 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 23:35 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-09 05:46 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 06:48 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-09 11:29 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-09 14:33 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-09 17:56 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-10 05:38 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-10 08:49 -0400
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 06:06 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 06:09 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-10 08:19 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 08:34 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-11 07:36 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Adam Stefaniak <adam.stefaniak@hotmail.co.uk> - 2018-05-11 07:51 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-11 08:15 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Adam Stefaniak <adam.stefaniak@hotmail.co.uk> - 2018-05-11 08:38 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-11 08:47 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Adam Stefaniak <adam.stefaniak@hotmail.co.uk> - 2018-05-11 08:52 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-11 08:58 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Adam Stefaniak <adam.stefaniak@hotmail.co.uk> - 2018-05-11 09:02 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-11 15:18 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 20:00 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-12 10:52 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-12 05:39 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 07:05 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-12 07:16 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 08:07 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-12 10:48 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 07:57 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:53 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-08 04:58 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 04:48 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-06 07:02 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 07:22 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 16:42 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 10:04 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-05 10:54 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:01 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 12:21 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:06 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:12 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 20:25 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-06 07:31 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-06 07:54 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-06 09:05 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-06 06:30 -0700
Re: Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-02 15:46 +0000
Re: Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-01 16:24 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-30 13:12 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-01 05:17 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-01 09:48 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-02 08:07 -0700
Re: Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-30 15:37 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 13:29 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-30 09:09 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-25 11:42 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 13:35 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 07:22 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 14:29 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 07:52 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 15:08 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 11:41 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 19:59 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-25 11:44 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 13:51 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 00:47 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-24 21:29 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 04:56 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 13:35 +0000
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 14:31 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-04-24 21:20 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-04-24 21:17 +0200
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-24 14:13 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 17:09 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 05:25 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 17:10 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 17:20 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 17:27 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 05:33 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-25 04:49 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTANEITY IS ABSOLUTE letitside1234@gmail.com - 2018-05-07 14:15 -0700
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| From | rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-12 08:07 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <e20e003b-c8f7-4277-927c-f89f1a42eca7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457827 |
On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 10:16:39 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote: > On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 10:05:41 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote: > > No, because there is no moon. Remember, you posed that > > there is ONLY the attractive force and NOTHING else. You are > > putting two contradictory statements in a same sentence. Do > > you realize that? > > David, go suck egg. So I cornered you and now you cry. Typical idiot ken.
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| From | Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> |
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| Date | 2018-05-12 10:48 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <pd6gp6$18oh$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #457804 |
kenseto wrote: > On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 12:02:35 PM UTC-4, Adam Stefaniak wrote: >> Why the umbrage? Have I offended you? >> To answer your question - With the benefit of the doubt I tend to give >> to strangers, I though you were interested in knowing what people were >> objecting to in the quoted post. > > I have no interested in your uninformed objection. That's a right discernment. He obviously is not aware of the basics in IRT. He is miles away from my Divergent Matter of the Moving Bodies Model.
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| From | rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-11 07:57 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <0409e3be-b82b-4b01-b870-5b1851012522@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457784 |
On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 10:36:03 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote: > On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 11:34:02 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote: > If there is only attractive force then the system is not stable. > > No, Moron, That’s exactly what I said. Exactly. YOU said the above. YOU said " If there is only attractive force then the system is not stable." We are asking you to prove your claims. You then turn around and change the subject to something that does NOT have a *only* attractive force. > There is more than just the attractive force between the moon > and the earth Maybe yes, maybe no, but that is NOT the topic. The topic is if there is ONLY an attractive force. Again, YOU said: " If there is only attractive force..." > “If there is only attractive force then the system is not stable.”. > > That’s exactly what I said. Yes. > There is more than just the attractive force Irrelevant to the topic. > > If F = 1/r², then there are no stable solutions. > > We want you to prove this. No answer? So you make void claims and refuse to support your claims, and then you change the topic. How dishonest of you.
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| From | Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-07 14:53 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <992ca7e4-a9d5-4099-80b3-e170d1a629dc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457626 |
On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 12:15:24 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 3:01:25 PM UTC-4, Steve BH wrote:
> > The LT are spacetime transforms. When you move from O to O’ coordinates moving at v, only the event at the origin (x,t ) =( x’, t’ ) = ( 0,0) remains unchanged. In relativity all other coordinates change in instant of transform, including all places (distances) and times (clock settings) away from (0,0) *before* anything moves or time passes.
>
> You can use the LT to transform an interval of time such as Delta(t). No coordinates are needed.
> Delta(t’)=gamma{Delta(t)-vdx/c^2)}
> Set dx=0 then you are comparing the rate of the t’ clock with the rate of the primed clock as if they were side by side or adjacent to each other.
I will add that the dx in your equation:
> Delta(t’)=gamma{Delta(t)-v(dx)/c^2)}
Cannot be arbitrarily set to zero. X must BE zero all that time interval, which means the spot must be at coordinate origin and stay there. Certainly not like lightning strikes at distance D from the origin, moving at v as seen from the train in M'.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2018-05-08 04:58 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <f0303c5a-8ef4-4967-be9e-008788a28426@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457625 |
On Monday, 7 May 2018 21:01:25 UTC+2, Steve BH wrote: > The LT are spacetime transforms. When you move from O to O’ coordinates moving at v, only the event at the origin (x,t ) =( x’, t’ ) = ( 0,0) remains unchanged. In relativity all other coordinates change in instant of transform, including all places (distances) and times (clock settings) away from (0,0) *before* anything moves or time passes. > > Learn Einstein’s theory before you criticize it. How dare you criticize communism, fool! Have you ever read a single book of comerade Lenin?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-09 04:48 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <pctuji$1d70$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #457661 |
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote: > On Monday, 7 May 2018 21:01:25 UTC+2, Steve BH wrote: >> The LT are spacetime transforms. When you move from O to O’ coordinates >> moving at v, only the event at the origin (x,t ) =( x’, t’ ) = ( 0,0) >> remains unchanged. In relativity all other coordinates change in instant >> of transform, including all places (distances) and times (clock >> settings) away from (0,0) *before* anything moves or time passes. >> >> Learn Einstein’s theory before you criticize it. > > > How dare you criticize communism, fool! Have you ever read a single > book of comerade Lenin? > Yes. Have you? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | kenseto <setoken@att.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-06 07:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <59f7463a-4f22-494e-a55e-c51ad1d69d69@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457528 |
On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 9:55:44 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote: > On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 6:50:32 AM UTC-6, stupid imbecile kenseto wrote: > > > > [The usual lies and bleatings as expected from an ignoramus] > > > > t’=gamma*t is designed to compare the clocks directly as if they are > > adjacent to each other (x=0). > > You are stupider than dirt, Seto. > > The LT equations are: > > x' = gamma*(x - v*t) > t' = gamma*(t - v*x/c^2) > > If x = 0, x' = -gamma*v*t, so they are only adjacent at t = 0, and if > t = 0 and x = 0, then t' = 0, too. Go back to sixth grade and retake > all those math classes you slept through. We are interested in when x=0. Then we get the time dilation equation of: t’=gamma*t This equation says that a second on the primed clock is worth gamma seconds on the unprimed clock. IOW, the primed look is accumulating clock seconds at a slower rate than the unprimed clock by a factor of 1/gamma > > If you want to know the CORRECT relationship between t' and t, set x = v*t. > That makes x' = 0 (i.e., you're in the frame where x' is stationary. Then, > > t' = gamma*[t - v*(v*t)/c^2)] = gamma*(1 - v^2/c^)*t = t/gamma > > which is contrary to the stupidity YOU yammered without the least degree > of understanding. Gee you are stupid.
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| From | rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-06 07:22 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <ae271b1f-92b1-459c-8b20-dd964debfce0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457569 |
On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote: > On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 9:55:44 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote: > > The LT equations are: > > > > x' = gamma*(x - v*t) > > t' = gamma*(t - v*x/c^2) > > > > If x = 0, x' = -gamma*v*t, so they are only adjacent at t = 0, and if > > t = 0 and x = 0, then t' = 0, too. Go back to sixth grade and retake > > all those math classes you slept through. > > We are interested in when x=0. You mean AT x=0, not 'when' x=0. > Then we get the time dilation equation of: NO, there is no TD. Stop using words that you do not know their meanings. > t’=gamma*t > This equation says that a second on the primed clock > is worth gamma seconds on the unprimed clock. No idiot ken, it doesnt mean that. You dont even know what the formula and the symbols mean. The t corresponds to which clock idiot ken? The t' corresponds to which clock idiot ken?
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| From | Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-06 16:42 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <4a445e0d-c77e-454a-8416-982964eb973b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457569 |
Look, Dingleberry: You can look at the clock at the coordinate origin and get your formula gamma t, since all space coordinates are zero in the v prime frame at gamma (0,0,0,t=0). It’s now just running slow. But any other clock at a distance x is not only running slow, but with an offset vx/c2. So if one train end is at your origin (0,0,0,0), the train of x length has the other end at (x, 0, 0, 0) and light flashes occur at 0 on both clocks. This is the train frame T. (Pretend a train with clocks and strobes) Now move to T’ where the train is moving, but your coordinate system is still at one end (same place, same time 0, 0, 0, 0). The other end by LT is now at gamma (x,0,0,vx/c2). In the moving frame the x clock is out of sync by vx/d2.
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| From | Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-05 10:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <5769ed06-949e-4185-a302-255b0c5e70b5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457523 |
Yes but you are using t’ = gamma t to compare clocks that are separated by distances, such as here the clocks at the ends of the train. The light flashes are not simultaneous unless THOSE clocks read the same time when the strikes hit. They do in Einstein’s gedanken because he starts that way. But then they are not in the middle of a moving train, which is some distance away. They are in the middle of the embankment, but that too is a distance from the train middle when the flashes arrive. In a DIFFERENT gedanken we start at the moment the flashes arrive on the embankment, and we back up the train to arrange for its middle to go by that point at the same instant so it’s M’ sees the flashes simultaneously also NOT like Einstein). Then we ask if they ARE simultaneous (the end train clocks next to them read the same same when they strike). The answer is they are simultaneous in the embankment frame where the strike clocks and their bolts are at rest to the observer M. But they are NOT simultaneous in the moving frame of M’, even though he SEES them to be.
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-05 10:54 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <0a020d3a-f5ed-458f-a103-f906eaa4232e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457537 |
Steve BH Yes but you are using t’ = gamma t to compare clocks that are separated by distances, such as here the clocks at the ends of the train. The light flashes are not simultaneous unless THOSE clocks read the same time when the strikes hit. They do in Einstein’s gedanken because he starts that way. But then they are not in the middle of a moving train, which is some distance away. They are in the middle of the embankment, but that too is a distance from the train middle when the flashes arrive. In a DIFFERENT gedanken we start at the moment the flashes arrive on the embankment, and we back up the train to arrange for its middle to go by that point at the same instant so it’s M’ sees the flashes simultaneously also NOT like Einstein). Then we ask if they ARE simultaneous (the end train clocks next to them read the same same when they strike). The answer is they are simultaneous in the embankment frame where the strike clocks and their bolts are at rest to the observer M. But they are NOT simultaneous in the moving frame of M’, even though he SEES them to be. Because the “XYZT REALITY” is a real time holographic “EMANATION” out of the Aether. Time progressing from the present to the future is “completely controlled by a change in the Total irreversible Entropy of the universe” or as the total system Pressure changes, completely preventing time travel to the past or disconnecting from the present time and jumping to a future that doesn’t exist yet.
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-05 11:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <32e33ab3-d4d9-4a2e-8c62-4e7c0a832e9e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457542 |
Steve BH Yes but you are using t’ = gamma t to compare clocks that are separated by distances, such as here the clocks at the ends of the train. The light flashes are not simultaneous unless THOSE clocks read the same time when the strikes hit. They do in Einstein’s gedanken because he starts that way. But then they are not in the middle of a moving train, which is some distance away. They are in the middle of the embankment, but that too is a distance from the train middle when the flashes arrive. In a DIFFERENT gedanken we start at the moment the flashes arrive on the embankment, and we back up the train to arrange for its middle to go by that point at the same instant so it’s M’ sees the flashes simultaneously also NOT like Einstein). Then we ask if they ARE simultaneous (the end train clocks next to them read the same same when they strike). The answer is they are simultaneous in the embankment frame where the strike clocks and their bolts are at rest to the observer M. But they are NOT simultaneous in the moving frame of M’, even though he SEES them to be. Because the “XYZT REALITY” is a real time holographic “EMANATION” out of the Aether. Time progressing from the present to the future is “completely controlled by a change in the Total irreversible Entropy of the universe” or as the total system Pressure changes, completely preventing time travel to the past or disconnecting from the present time and jumping to a future that doesn’t exist yet. http://vixra.org/pdf/1310.0191vD.pdf As the White Hole merges with the Black Hole.... Time is “PERMITTED” to advance forward in Planck unit steps.
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| From | Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-05 12:21 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <978db792-8f44-4b56-a781-fb18964bc745@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457537 |
Edit: You are improperly using the LT of t’ = gamma t to compare clocks that are separated by distances, such as here the clocks at the ends of the train. The light flashes are not simultaneous unless THOSE clocks read the same time when the strikes hit. They do read the same time in Einstein’s gedanken because he starts that way. But then the flashes do not arrive simultaneously in the middle of a moving train, which is some distance away. They do arrive simultaneously in the middle of the embankment, but that too is a distance from the train middle when the flashes arrive. So results can be different for M and M’ in Einstein’s gedanken when they are no co-located. In a DIFFERENT gedanken we start at the moment the flashes arrive at M in the middle of the embankment (hence use of M = mittel), and we back up the moving train to arrange for its middle M’ to go by that point at the same instant so it’s M’ sees the flashes simultaneously also (NOT like Einstein). Then we ask if the flashes ARE simultaneous (ie, the end train clocks next to them read the same same when the bolts strike). The answer is they ARE simultaneous in the embankment frame where the strike clocks and their bolts are at rest to the observer M. But they are NOT simultaneous in the moving frame of M’, even though M’ on the train SEES them to be.
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-05 13:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <e99f0ab0-2175-42d3-8eca-666457804d99@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457547 |
Because the “XYZT REALITY” is a real time holographic “EMANATION” out of the Aether. Time progressing from the present to the future is “completely controlled by a change in the Total irreversible Entropy of the universe” or as the total system Pressure changes, completely preventing time travel to the past or disconnecting from the present time and jumping to a future that doesn’t exist yet. http://vixra.org/pdf/1310.0191vD.pdf As the White Hole merges with the Black Hole.... Time is “PERMITTED” to advance forward in Planck unit steps. As the universe becomes more mass like and the arrow of time presses forward .. Mass is replacing (the (kinetic energy) of the volume of space time) leaving E = mc^2 & .... ((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2)))^0.5 = c Or E = m*((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2))) http://vixra.org/pdf/1310.0191vD.pdf = ((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2)))
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-05 13:12 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <aa76e6cd-d9ad-4784-91e7-6103519902fe@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457549 |
Because the “XYZT REALITY” is a real time holographic “EMANATION” out of the Aether. Time progressing from the present to the future is “completely controlled by a change in the Total irreversible Entropy of the universe” or as the total system Pressure changes, completely preventing time travel to the past or disconnecting from the present time and jumping to a future that doesn’t exist yet. http://vixra.org/pdf/1310.0191vD.pdf As the White Hole merges with the Black Hole.... Time is “PERMITTED” to advance forward in Planck unit steps. As the universe becomes more mass like and the arrow of time presses forward .. Mass is replacing (the (kinetic energy) of the volume of space time) leaving E = mc^2 & .... ((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2)))^0.5 = c Or E = m*((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2))) http://vixra.org/pdf/1310.0191vD.pdf = ((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2))) (((((c^5) / (hbar * (G^2))) / G) * 3) / 8)^0.5 = 1.70193199e+53 kg s / m^3 = mass universe
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| From | Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-05 20:25 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
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| In reply to | #457550 |
On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 1:12:21 PM UTC-7, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > Because the “XYZT REALITY” is a real time holographic “EMANATION” out of the Aether. > > Time progressing from the present to the future is “completely controlled by a change in the Total irreversible Entropy of the universe” or as the total system Pressure changes, completely preventing time travel to the past or disconnecting from the present time and jumping to a future that doesn’t exist yet. > > http://vixra.org/pdf/1310.0191vD.pdf > > As the White Hole merges with the Black Hole.... > > Time is “PERMITTED” to advance forward in Planck unit steps. > > As the universe becomes more mass like and the arrow of time presses forward .. > > Mass is replacing (the (kinetic energy) of the volume of space time) leaving E = mc^2 & .... > > ((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2)))^0.5 = c > > Or E = m*((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2))) > > > http://vixra.org/pdf/1310.0191vD.pdf = ((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2))) > > > (((((c^5) / (hbar * (G^2))) / G) * 3) / 8)^0.5 = 1.70193199e+53 kg s / m^3 = mass universe You think "mass" has units of kg s/m^3 ???
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-06 07:31 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
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| In reply to | #457558 |
Steve BH > (((((c^5) / (hbar * (G^2))) / G) * 3) / 8)^0.5 = 1.70193199e+53 kg s / m^3 = mass universe You think "mass" has units of kg s/m^3 ??? Where do you think Space & Time comes from? Matter is Relativistic Ballast Bekenstein-Hawking_entropy (((m^2) * c) / (((Planck length * 0.5)^3) / ((Planck Time) * 0.5))) / (c^2) = 1.70377849e+53 kg
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-06 07:54 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <134f8958-453a-4c0a-b7df-ca017b57179d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457573 |
Steve BH > (((((c^5) / (hbar * (G^2))) / G) * 3) / 8)^0.5 = 1.70193199e+53 kg s / m^3 = mass universe You think "mass" has units of kg s/m^3 ??? Where do you think Space & Time comes from? Matter is Relativistic Ballast Bekenstein-Hawking_entropy (((m^2) * c) / (((Planck length * 0.5)^3) / ((Planck Time) * 0.5))) / (c^2) = 1.70377849e+53 kg ((1.70193199e+53/2)^2 kg *G*(planck length)^2)*(6.52489/tau) = ( 13.8579569 billion light years) m1*m2*G/radius^2 = Force ((1.702e+53/2 kg)^2 *G*(pi planck length/m^2)^2)*(6.52489/tau)/kgf = 13.9480336 billion light years
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-06 09:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <63484dfa-5c4d-4b52-a7ac-f499fcd444ee@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457576 |
Steve BH > (((((c^5) / (hbar * (G^2))) / G) * 3) / 8)^0.5 = 1.70193199e+53 kg s / m^3 = mass universe You think "mass" has units of kg s/m^3 ??? Where do you think Space & Time comes from? Matter is Relativistic Ballast Bekenstein-Hawking_entropy (((m^2) * c) / (((Planck length * 0.5)^3) / ((Planck Time) * 0.5))) / (c^2) = 1.70377849e+53 kg ((1.70193199e+53/2)^2 kg *G*(planck length)^2)*(6.52489/tau) = ( 13.8579569 billion light years) m1*m2*G/radius^2 = Force ((1.702e+53/2 kg)^2 *G*(pi planck length/m^2)^2)*(6.52489/tau)/kgf = 13.9480336 billion light years m1*m2*G/radius^2 = Force = https://photos.app.goo.gl/vcsw9gNZnE3UX30F3
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| From | kenseto <setoken@att.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-06 06:30 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EINSTEIN’S TRAIN GEDANKEN PROVED THAT SIMULTAN EITY IS ABSOLUTE |
| Message-ID | <9c0585bc-bc01-4a71-83c0-e8566a1b37e2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #457547 |
On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 3:21:32 PM UTC-4, Steve BH wrote: > Edit: > > You are improperly using the LT of t’ = gamma t to compare clocks that are separated by distances, such as here the clocks at the ends of the train. The light flashes are not simultaneous unless THOSE clocks read the same time when the strikes hit. There is no clocks at the ends of the train. M determined the time of simultaneity of the flashes in his frame to be t and he transforms this time to the train frame and the result is: M’ sees the flashes to be simultaneous at t’=gamma*t or t=t'/gamma. The distance of separation between M and M’ is irrelevant. These equations say that if there were similar strikes happened at the ends of the train the track observer M detected the flashes to be simultaneous at time t then he (M) Predicts that train observer M’ will see the flashes arrive at him at time gamma*t on the track clock or t’/gamma on the train clock.. > > They do read the same time in Einstein’s gedanken because he starts that way. But then the flashes do not arrive simultaneously in the middle of a moving train, which is some distance away. They do arrive simultaneously in the middle of the embankment, but that too is a distance from the train middle when the flashes arrive. So results can be different for M and M’ in Einstein’s gedanken when they are no co-located. > > In a DIFFERENT gedanken we start at the moment the flashes arrive at M in the middle of the embankment (hence use of M = mittel), and we back up the moving train to arrange for its middle M’ to go by that point at the same instant so it’s M’ sees the flashes simultaneously also (NOT like Einstein). > > Then we ask if the flashes ARE simultaneous (ie, the end train clocks next to them read the same same when the bolts strike). The answer is they ARE simultaneous in the embankment frame where the strike clocks and their bolts are at rest to the observer M. But they are NOT simultaneous in the moving frame of M’, even though M’ on the train SEES them to be.
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