Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > sci.physics.relativity > #430206 > unrolled thread

Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887

Started byHGW <HW@home.net>
First post2017-08-28 09:10 +1000
Last post2017-09-04 04:08 -0700
Articles 20 on this page of 320 — 23 participants

Back to article view | Back to sci.physics.relativity

This discussion starts older than the indexed window; earlier articles aren't shown. The article labeled Started by below is the oldest one visible, not the original post.


Contents

  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-28 09:10 +1000
    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-27 17:24 -0700
    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-28 13:33 +0200
      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-29 08:51 +1000
        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-29 01:52 +0200
          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-29 11:15 +1000
            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-29 10:32 +0200
              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-29 19:47 +1000
                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-29 13:31 +0200
                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-30 10:19 +1000
                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:34 -0700
                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-30 06:08 +0200
                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-30 19:49 +1000
                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-30 19:21 +0200
                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-31 09:13 +1000
                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-31 02:11 +0200
                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-02 08:47 +1000
                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-02 02:14 +0200
                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-03 08:59 +1000
                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-03 18:01 +0200
                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 09:06 +1000
                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-04 02:05 +0200
                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 20:38 +1000
                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-04 21:03 +0200
                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 10:05 +1000
                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-05 13:58 +0200
                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-05 06:04 -0700
                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-05 21:15 +0200
                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-06 09:18 +1000
                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-06 03:43 +0200
                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 00:45 +1000
                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-06 22:21 +0200
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-07 09:37 +1000
                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-07 09:51 +1000
                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-07 13:48 +0200
                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 09:55 +1000
                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-08 11:20 +0200
                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-08 19:51 +1000
                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-08 14:14 +0200
                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-09 06:56 +1000
                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-07 10:57 -0500
                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Erika Milling <kak@kiilwgil.lc> - 2017-09-07 16:00 +0000
                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 09:58 +1000
                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-07 13:15 +0200
                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 10:13 +1000
                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-08 13:28 +0200
                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-09 07:14 +1000
                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-09 19:51 +0200
                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-10 12:27 +1000
                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-10 12:30 +0200
                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-11 07:32 +1000
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-07 18:35 -0700
                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-07 10:50 -0500
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Erika Milling <kak@kiilwgil.lc> - 2017-09-07 15:57 +0000
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 15:43 -0500
                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 10:20 +1000
                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-06 01:24 -0700
                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-06 15:08 +0200
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-09-06 12:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-07 19:54 +0200
                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-06 22:36 +0200
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-06 13:50 -0700
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-07 06:21 -0700
                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-07 11:08 -0500
                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 11:58 +1000
                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-07 19:55 +0200
                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-07 20:11 +0200
                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-07 17:48 -0700
                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-08 07:17 +0200
                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-08 01:01 -0700
                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-08 10:56 +0200
                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-08 10:37 -0700
                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-08 21:51 +0200
                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-08 15:57 -0700
                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-09 01:15 +0200
                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-09-08 16:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-09 06:39 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-09 07:08 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-09 18:41 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Utorských Vitelé <hue@svwor.hh> - 2017-09-09 17:03 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-10 19:15 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-10 11:37 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-10 19:54 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-10 13:14 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-11 07:49 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-10 16:32 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-10 18:14 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.nett> - 2017-09-11 11:34 +1000
                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-10 21:02 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.nett> - 2017-09-11 19:42 +1000
                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-10 18:21 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-11 20:38 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-12 12:50 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-12 14:50 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-13 09:42 +1000
                                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-13 17:32 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-14 08:16 +1000
                                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-14 15:29 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-15 03:38 +1000
                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-10 06:58 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-10 16:54 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-11 04:07 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-11 13:50 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Utorských Vitelé <hue@svwor.hh> - 2017-09-11 16:52 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-11 10:30 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-11 19:57 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-11 13:53 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-11 14:23 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-11 14:27 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-11 14:33 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-12 07:11 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-12 05:47 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-12 15:51 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-12 11:55 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-12 21:04 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-09-13 01:04 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-13 05:02 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-13 14:16 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-13 05:46 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-12 18:57 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-13 00:17 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-13 09:50 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-13 15:10 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-13 01:03 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-13 12:07 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-13 23:48 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-14 08:35 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-14 02:16 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-14 21:07 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-15 06:03 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-15 08:50 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-15 10:59 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-15 15:10 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-15 20:16 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-15 16:49 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-15 17:03 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-15 20:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-16 17:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-16 18:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-19 07:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-19 08:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 18:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 13:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 20:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 16:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 22:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 18:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 02:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-21 20:09 +1000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 12:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 09:21 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 15:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 16:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 03:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-22 09:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 22:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-22 18:44 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-15 15:26 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-15 20:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-15 20:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-15 23:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-16 04:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-16 09:08 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-15 21:20 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-16 06:57 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-17 09:24 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-17 15:53 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-18 08:39 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-10 20:34 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-11 07:58 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-10 23:15 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.nett> - 2017-09-11 19:44 +1000
                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-11 04:08 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.nett> - 2017-09-12 10:50 +1000
                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-11 22:52 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-12 20:34 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-12 03:54 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-13 09:45 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-12 21:59 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-14 08:37 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-13 22:55 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-11 04:08 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-11 04:38 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-11 13:56 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-11 06:13 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-11 17:28 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-11 09:35 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-11 21:25 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-11 22:53 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-12 20:37 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-10 20:43 +0200
                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-09 00:56 +0200
                                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-09 07:20 +1000
                                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-08 22:27 +0000
                                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-10 19:17 +1000
                                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-08 13:46 +0200
                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 12:02 +1000
                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-05 16:19 +0200
                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-06 09:21 +1000
                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-06 03:21 +0200
                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-06 19:31 +1000
                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 05:24 -0700
                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-06 15:12 +0200
                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-06 06:29 -0700
                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 00:57 +1000
                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 04:51 -0700
                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:27 -0500
              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:26 -0500
                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-02 08:51 +1000
            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-29 12:55 +0200
              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-29 17:52 +0200
                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-30 09:36 +1000
                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-31 02:09 +0200
                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-02 08:59 +1000
                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-02 02:00 +0200
                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-03 09:00 +1000
                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-03 18:07 +0200
                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 09:04 +1000
                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-04 03:05 +0200
              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-30 10:14 +1000
                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-29 22:21 -0400
                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-30 05:40 +0200
                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-30 20:26 +1000
                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-30 17:27 +0200
                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-31 09:57 +1000
                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-31 02:18 +0200
                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-02 09:05 +1000
                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-02 02:12 +0200
                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-03 09:18 +1000
                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-03 01:41 +0200
    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-28 04:58 -0700
      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 16:03 +0000
        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 01:05 -0700
          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 19:37 +0000
            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 14:40 -0700
        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-02 09:07 +1000
    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-28 20:43 -0500
      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-29 19:58 +1000
        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-29 13:05 +0200
          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-30 10:16 +1000
            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-29 22:26 -0400
            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-30 05:43 +0200
              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-30 21:07 +1000
                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 09:40 -0700
                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-31 10:07 +1000
                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 22:02 -0700
                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-31 02:00 -0500
                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-08-31 06:53 -0700
                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 07:26 -0700
                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 matt.rush200@outlook.com - 2017-08-31 14:59 -0700
                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 15:15 -0700
                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R. B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-01 01:51 -0700
                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 02:36 -0700
                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-01 04:20 -0700
                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 11:01 -0500
                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-31 22:21 +0200
                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 04:34 -0700
                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-02 09:11 +1000
                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 02:33 -0700
                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 "R.B." <matt.rush200@outlook.com> - 2017-09-02 04:57 -0700
                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 05:51 -0700
                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-03 09:29 +1000
                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 17:24 -0700
                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 01:24 -0700
                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 09:19 +1000
                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 09:18 +1000
                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 20:04 -0700
                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-04 00:47 -0500
                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 20:56 +1000
                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 06:10 -0700
                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 09:22 -0700
                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 10:16 +1000
                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 17:46 -0700
                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 20:07 +1000
                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 03:33 -0700
                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-03 08:13 -0500
                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 09:23 +1000
                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-03 18:13 -0700
                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-04 00:29 -0500
                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 20:59 +1000
                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 15:14 -0500
                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-04 05:59 -0700
                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-04 11:42 -0500
                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-04 10:33 -0700
                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-04 17:43 +0000
                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 20:45 +0000
                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-04 22:31 +0000
                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-04 14:54 -0500
                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-04 19:13 -0700
                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 20:07 +1000
                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-05 11:56 -0500
                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-05 15:14 -0500
                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 19:46 -0700
                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-06 00:41 -0500
                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:52 -0500
                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-06 15:53 -0500
                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 11:50 -0700
                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-06 16:07 -0500
                                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 16:56 -0500
                                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-06 19:27 -0500
                                                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 15:41 -0500
                                                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-07 17:44 -0500
                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-07 21:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 16:49 +1000
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-08 03:27 -0500
                                                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-08 08:04 -0700
                                                              Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-08 14:28 -0500
                                                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 08:12 -0500
                                                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-09 06:48 +1000
                                Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-05 11:40 -0500
                                  Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-06 10:26 +1000
                        Neutrinos (was: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-03 01:22 +0200
                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-22 11:37 -0700
                    Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 10:58 -0500
                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-31 21:56 +0200
                      Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-02 09:19 +1000
                        Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 02:42 +0000
                          Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-03 09:32 +1000
                            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 00:07 +0000
            Re: Constancy of the Speed of Light: Disproved in 1887 JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 04:08 -0700

Page 15 of 16 — ← Prev page 1 … 13 14 [15] 16  Next page →


#431084

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-04 15:14 -0500
Message-ID<ookc7l$1e9t$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#431012
On 9/4/17 5:59 AM, HGW wrote:
> On 04/09/17 15:29, Ned Latham wrote:
>> Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
>>> HGW wrote:
>>
>> ----snip----
>>
>>>> Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
>>>
>>> OPERA did, baloney-boy.
>>
>> And the result they got was FTL.
>>
>> Larf.
>>
>> ----sbip----
> 
> HAHAHHHAHA! but that was quickly hushed up and the fellows who did the 
> measuring are now unemployed............


No, they're not. Propaganda-flinger.

> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431028

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2017-09-04 05:59 -0700
Message-ID<962eb11f-ccbd-4e2c-919b-acd06e6557c6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#431000
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-6, Ned Latham wrote:
>
> And the result they got was FTL.
> 
> Larf.
> 
> ----sbip----

You misspelled "Liar" bull-plop boy.

> > A charged pion has mass 139.57 MeV 
>
> That's a measure of energy, not mass.

Which just goes to show that you are an ignoramus and a dimwit.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431055

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-09-04 11:42 -0500
Message-ID<slrnoqr0k1.4kg.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#431028
Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> >
> > And the result they got was FTL.
> >
> > Larf.
> >
> > ----sbip----
>
> You misspelled "Liar" bull-plop boy.

Wrong again, moron. I wouldn't misspell your name in a pink fit.

> > > A charged pion has mass 139.57 MeV
> >
> > That's a measure of energy, not mass.
>
> Which just goes to show that you are an ignoramus and a dimwit.

Wrong pronoun, moron.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431064

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2017-09-04 10:33 -0700
Message-ID<9c9c833d-1be1-4356-bb13-df6688e677d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#431055
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:42:47 AM UTC-6, Ned Latham wrote:
>
> Wrong pronoun,

Yes, the only pronoun to describe you is "it."

>  moron.

Don't be so hard on yourself, your at least a couple of points above moron.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431065

FromEthel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag>
Date2017-09-04 17:43 +0000
Message-ID<ook3cd$usp$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#431064
Gary Harnagel wrote:

> On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:42:47 AM UTC-6, Ned Latham wrote:
>>
>> Wrong pronoun,
> 
> Yes, the only pronoun to describe you is "it."
> 
>>  moron.
> 
> Don't be so hard on yourself, your at least a couple of points above
> moron.

Uncertain. A couple bellow idiot, for sure. Think again.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431087

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-09-04 20:45 +0000
Message-ID<ooke0d$gq3$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#431065
The nymshifting troll <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> writes:

>Uncertain. A couple bellow idiot, for sure. Think again.
                     ^^^^^^

Aha! The nymshifting troll actually is He who should Not be Named, a.k.a.
the Spamtard!!!

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431102

FromEthel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag>
Date2017-09-04 22:31 +0000
Message-ID<ookk88$1roo$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#431087
Michael Moroney wrote:

> The nymshifting troll <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> writes:
> 
>>Uncertain. A couple bellow idiot, for sure. Think again.
>                      ^^^^^^
> Aha! The nymshifting troll actually is He who should Not be Named,
> a.k.a. the Spamtard!!!

"idiot" as a level, not title. I don't insult anybody. I don't know those 
posters. Why so angry at them?? Keep calm, my friend, and be happy.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431082

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-09-04 14:54 -0500
Message-ID<slrnoqrbre.8q1.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#431064
Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> > > > > HGW wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ----snip----
> > > >
> > > > > > Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
> > > > >
> > > > > OPERA did, baloney-boy.
> > > >
> > > > And the result they got was FTL.
> > > >
> > > > Larf.
> > > >
> > > > ----sbip----
> > >
> > > You misspelled "Liar" bull-plop boy.
> >
> > Wrong again, moron. I wouldn't misspell your name in a pink fit.
> >
> > > > Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > A charged pion has mass 139.57 MeV
> > > >
> > > > That's a measure of energy, not mass.
> > >
> > > Which just goes to show that you are an ignoramus and a dimwit.
> >
> > Wrong pronoun, moron.
>
> Yes, the only pronoun to describe you is "it."

But you just used "you". Pretty fuckin' stupid, ain'cha?

> >  moron.
>
> Don't be so hard on yourself,

Showing up your pathetic stupidity isn't hard, Gawy.

> your

That's "you're", moron. Is your subliteracy one of the reasons
for your inadequacy as a physicist? I ask because your evasion
of the issues makes it plain that physics is not your forté.

> at least a couple of points above moron.

No you're not.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431121

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2017-09-04 19:13 -0700
Message-ID<ddcb1240-e72b-4937-af08-5e801b171c0e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#431082
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 1:54:28 PM UTC-6, Ned Latham wrote:
>
> [Abysmally-stupid bull plop]

Nothing more need be said.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431140

FromHGW <HW@home.net>
Date2017-09-05 20:07 +1000
Message-ID<oolt1m$1m33$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#431121
On 05/09/17 12:13, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 1:54:28 PM UTC-6, Ned Latham wrote:
>>
>> [Abysmally-stupid bull plop]
> 
> Nothing more need be said.
> 

Let your little god thing say it for you....
-- 

    HGW, DSc.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431216

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2017-09-05 11:56 -0500
Message-ID<s-Odnbb1CMzFSjPEnZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#431000
On 9/4/17 12:29 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
>>> Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
>> OPERA did
> 
> And the result they got was FTL.

No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly) faster than light. 
They corrected that and their ACTUAL result was consistent with c, to within 
their resolution of a few parts per million.

Both MINOS and Super-K also measured neutrino speeds of c, within their 
resolutions of a few parts per million. All three measurements involve distances 
of several hundred kilometers and clock synchronization via GPS; all 
measurements are relative to the ECI coordinates of the GPS.

This is an example of good science at work: OPERA had an interesting preliminary 
result, and the other experiments worked quickly to confirm or deny it. They 
ended up denying it; the OPERA team found a problem in their equipment, which 
they fixed and then confirmed the results of the other experiments. All three 
measurements are consistent with the predictions of SR.

Your fantasies of some vast "conspiracy" are just that -- FANTASIES.

Tom Roberts

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431232

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-09-05 15:14 -0500
Message-ID<slrnoqu1ct.d4i.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#431216
Tom Roberts wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> > > HGW wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
> > > OPERA did
> >
> > And the result they got was FTL.
>
> No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly)
> faster than light.

No. Their experimental result was FTL neutrinoes. They spent
months trying to find a way to deny that, then they published,
asking for help to find a way to deny it.

> They corrected that

Yair, yair. "Corrected". Right.

> and their ACTUAL result was consistent with c, to within
> their resolution of a few parts per million.
>
> Both MINOS and Super-K also measured neutrino speeds of c,
> within their resolutions of a few parts per million. All
> three measurements involve distances of several hundred
> kilometers and clock synchronization via GPS; all
> measurements are relative to the ECI coordinates of the GPS.

Which is to say, the coordination of the clocks imposes
the assumption of constabt c on the whole procedure.

> This is an example of good science at work:

Pig's arse. It's an example of invalidity.

> OPERA had an interesting preliminary result, and the other
> experiments worked quickly to confirm or deny it. They
> ended up denying it;

As they were set up to di.

> the OPERA team found a problem in their equipment,

That is about as believeable as the green cheese hypothesis.

----snip----

> Your fantasies of some vast "conspiracy" are just that --

Get your hand off it, Roberts. My opinion is that the problem
is the grants system, not some wilful conspiracy.

> FANTASIES.

You wish.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431282

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-05 19:46 -0700
Message-ID<448fb484-bb9a-4d84-b56e-8b98fa33b844@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#431232
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 1:14:27 PM UTC-7, Ned Latham wrote:
> Tom Roberts wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> > > > HGW wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
> > > > OPERA did
> > >
> > > And the result they got was FTL.
> >
> > No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly)
> > faster than light.
> 
> No. Their experimental result was FTL neutrinoes. They spent
> months trying to find a way to deny that, then they published,
> asking for help to find a way to deny it.
> 
> > They corrected that
> 
> Yair, yair. "Corrected". Right.

Yes. There was an equipment problem. Things like this happen, you know. Do you
invent elaborate fantasies every time your kitchen sink get clogged too?

--
Jan

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431290

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-09-06 00:41 -0500
Message-ID<slrnoqv2kn.rp1.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#431282
JanPB wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > Tom Roberts wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> > > > > HGW wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
> > > > >
> > > > > OPERA did
> > > >
> > > > And the result they got was FTL.
> > >
> > > No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly)
> > > faster than light.
> > 
> > No. Their experimental result was FTL neutrinoes. They spent
> > months trying to find a way to deny that, then they published,
> > asking for help to find a way to deny it.
> > 
> > > They corrected that
> > 
> > Yair, yair. "Corrected". Right.
>
> Yes. There was an equipment problem.

I've heard the story. A loose connection. This in a place where
*everyone* is highly qualified and utterly obsessed with precision
and procedural integrity.

> Things like this happen, you know.

At CERN? And it took half a bloody year to find it? That sort of
incompetence would be considered unacceptable in an auto repair
shop. And you accept that it's the *real* story at CERN?

Get your hand off it.

> Do you invent elaborate fantasies every time your kitchen sink
> get clogged too?

Do you believe every hare-brained excuse that people make up to
explain their failures?

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431334

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 08:52 -0500
Message-ID<ooouig$10bh$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#431290
On 9/6/17 12:41 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>> Tom Roberts wrote:
>>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>>> Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
>>>>>> HGW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OPERA did
>>>>>
>>>>> And the result they got was FTL.
>>>>
>>>> No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly)
>>>> faster than light.
>>>
>>> No. Their experimental result was FTL neutrinoes. They spent
>>> months trying to find a way to deny that, then they published,
>>> asking for help to find a way to deny it.
>>>
>>>> They corrected that
>>>
>>> Yair, yair. "Corrected". Right.
>>
>> Yes. There was an equipment problem.
> 
> I've heard the story. A loose connection. This in a place where
> *everyone* is highly qualified and utterly obsessed with precision
> and procedural integrity.

And working with a VERY complex apparatus.

> 
>> Things like this happen, you know.
> 
> At CERN? And it took half a bloody year to find it? That sort of
> incompetence would be considered unacceptable in an auto repair
> shop. And you accept that it's the *real* story at CERN?
> 
> Get your hand off it.
> 
>> Do you invent elaborate fantasies every time your kitchen sink
>> get clogged too?
> 
> Do you believe every hare-brained excuse that people make up to
> explain their failures?

So let's see. First you say that the possibility of the loose connection 
is dismissed because "*everyone* is highly qualified and utterly 
obsessed with precision and procedural integrity". Then you say that 
they followed up that result with a broad conspiracy to deceive and 
falsify data. Some obsession with precision and procedural integrity there!

People who are determined to find a conspiracy are guaranteed to succeed.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431393

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-09-06 15:53 -0500
Message-ID<slrnor0o2p.igk.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#431334
Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > Tom Roberts wrote:
> > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> > > > > > > HGW wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OPERA did
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the result they got was FTL.
> > > > >
> > > > > No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly)
> > > > > faster than light.
> > > >
> > > > No. Their experimental result was FTL neutrinoes. They spent
> > > > months trying to find a way to deny that, then they published,
> > > > asking for help to find a way to deny it.
> > > >
> > > > > They corrected that
> > > >
> > > > Yair, yair. "Corrected". Right.
> > >
> > > Yes. There was an equipment problem.
> > 
> > I've heard the story. A loose connection. This in a place where
> > *everyone* is highly qualified and utterly obsessed with precision
> > and procedural integrity.
>
> And working with a VERY complex apparatus.

Aw boo hoo.

> > > Things like this happen, you know.
> > 
> > At CERN? And it took half a bloody year to find it? That sort of
> > incompetence would be considered unacceptable in an auto repair
> > shop. And you accept that it's the *real* story at CERN?
> > 
> > Get your hand off it.
> > 
> > > Do you invent elaborate fantasies every time your kitchen sink
> > > get clogged too?
> > 
> > Do you believe every hare-brained excuse that people make up to
> > explain their failures?
>
> So let's see. First you say that the possibility of the loose
> connection is dismissed because "*everyone* is highly qualified
> and utterly obsessed with precision and procedural integrity".

...and it took many months to find. Why do you ignore the fact
that *every* connection is some highly trained individual's
responsibility?

> Then you say that they followed up that result with a broad
> conspiracy

No, I do not.

> to deceive and falsify data.

Reset the paramters of the experiment to "correct" the oh so
obvious error in the original setup.

> Some obsession with precision and procedural integrity there!

You can stick your straw man up your arse, Slow Boy.

> People who are determined to find a conspiracy are guaranteed
> to succeed.

What you found, Slow Boy, is your own delusions.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431373

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 11:50 -0700
Message-ID<93ac129e-c970-4907-ac51-7f94378882d8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#431290
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 10:41:50 PM UTC-7, Ned Latham wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > Tom Roberts wrote:
> > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> > > > > > HGW wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OPERA did
> > > > >
> > > > > And the result they got was FTL.
> > > >
> > > > No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly)
> > > > faster than light.
> > > 
> > > No. Their experimental result was FTL neutrinoes. They spent
> > > months trying to find a way to deny that, then they published,
> > > asking for help to find a way to deny it.
> > > 
> > > > They corrected that
> > > 
> > > Yair, yair. "Corrected". Right.
> >
> > Yes. There was an equipment problem.
> 
> I've heard the story. A loose connection. This in a place where
> *everyone* is highly qualified and utterly obsessed with precision
> and procedural integrity.

It happens. Life is not perfect.

> > Things like this happen, you know.
> 
> At CERN?

Yes.

> And it took half a bloody year to find it?

Yes.

> That sort of
> incompetence would be considered unacceptable in an auto repair
> shop.

No. The system is orders of magnitude more subtle.

> And you accept that it's the *real* story at CERN?

Yes, of course. What's with that veritable MANIA of seeking totally absurd
conspiracies where a simple explanation involving human error suffices?

> Get your hand off it.
> 
> > Do you invent elaborate fantasies every time your kitchen sink
> > get clogged too?
> 
> Do you believe every hare-brained excuse that people make up to
> explain their failures?

No, you missed the point. It's simply NOT at all unusual to have
equipment failure in a very complex system. Why is it so hard to
accept this and replace a perfectly sensible explanation with some
idiotic conspiracy? Who would benefit from it? How could such
conspiracy remain undetected and unpunished? It's ludicrous from get-go.

--
Jan

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431396

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-09-06 16:07 -0500
Message-ID<slrnor0ot6.igk.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#431373
JanPB wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > Tom Roberts wrote:
> > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> > > > > > > HGW wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OPERA did
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the result they got was FTL.
> > > > >
> > > > > No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly)
> > > > > faster than light.
> > > > 
> > > > No. Their experimental result was FTL neutrinoes. They spent
> > > > months trying to find a way to deny that, then they published,
> > > > asking for help to find a way to deny it.
> > > > 
> > > > > They corrected that
> > > > 
> > > > Yair, yair. "Corrected". Right.
> > >
> > > Yes. There was an equipment problem.
> > 
> > I've heard the story. A loose connection. This in a place where
> > *everyone* is highly qualified and utterly obsessed with precision
> > and procedural integrity.
>
> It happens. Life is not perfect.
>
> > > Things like this happen, you know.
> > 
> > At CERN?
>
> Yes.
>
> > And it took half a bloody year to find it?
>
> Yes.

Bullshit. If such a thing had occurred, it would have been
discoberable in the same day that the equipment inspection
was ordered.

> > That sort of incompetence would be considered unacceptable
> > in an auto repair shop.
>
> No. The system is orders of magnitude more subtle.

Irrelevant. The Technicians are more highly trained, more highly
organised, and more numerous. The whole setip is designed to
prevent such errors.

> > And you accept that it's the *real* story at CERN?
>
> Yes, of course. What's with that veritable MANIA of seeking
> totally absurd conspiracies where a simple explanation
> involving human error suffices?

What is it with that mania you dogmatising dimwits have of
accusing critics of harbouring conspiracy theories when
they're pointing up a perfectly ordinary case of self-deception?

----further insane accusations snipped----

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431400

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 16:56 -0500
Message-ID<oopqu2$p1l$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#431396
On 9/6/17 4:07 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>> JanPB wrote:
>>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>>> Tom Roberts wrote:
>>>>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>>>>> Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>> HGW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OPERA did
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the result they got was FTL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly)
>>>>>> faster than light.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. Their experimental result was FTL neutrinoes. They spent
>>>>> months trying to find a way to deny that, then they published,
>>>>> asking for help to find a way to deny it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> They corrected that
>>>>>
>>>>> Yair, yair. "Corrected". Right.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. There was an equipment problem.
>>>
>>> I've heard the story. A loose connection. This in a place where
>>> *everyone* is highly qualified and utterly obsessed with precision
>>> and procedural integrity.
>>
>> It happens. Life is not perfect.
>>
>>>> Things like this happen, you know.
>>>
>>> At CERN?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> And it took half a bloody year to find it?
>>
>> Yes.
> 
> Bullshit. If such a thing had occurred, it would have been
> discoberable in the same day that the equipment inspection
> was ordered.
> 
>>> That sort of incompetence would be considered unacceptable
>>> in an auto repair shop.
>>
>> No. The system is orders of magnitude more subtle.
> 
> Irrelevant. The Technicians are more highly trained, more highly
> organised, and more numerous. The whole setip is designed to
> prevent such errors.

Fascinating that you speak as though you were there and were familiar 
with the procedures. Are you listed on the collaboration manifest?

No?

Then out of what orifice are you speaking?

> 
>>> And you accept that it's the *real* story at CERN?
>>
>> Yes, of course. What's with that veritable MANIA of seeking
>> totally absurd conspiracies where a simple explanation
>> involving human error suffices?
> 
> What is it with that mania you dogmatising dimwits have of
> accusing critics of harbouring conspiracy theories when
> they're pointing up a perfectly ordinary case of self-deception?
> 
> ----further insane accusations snipped----
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#431413

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-09-06 19:27 -0500
Message-ID<slrnor14jk.mp2.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#431400
Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > JanPB wrote:
> > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > > Tom Roberts wrote:
> > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > > > > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote:
> > > > > > > > > HGW wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nobody has directly measured the speed of a neutrino.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > OPERA did
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And the result they got was FTL.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No. Their PRELIMINARY result was slightly (but significantly)
> > > > > > > faster than light.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No. Their experimental result was FTL neutrinoes. They spent
> > > > > > months trying to find a way to deny that, then they published,
> > > > > > asking for help to find a way to deny it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > They corrected that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yair, yair. "Corrected". Right.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes. There was an equipment problem.
> > > >
> > > > I've heard the story. A loose connection. This in a place where
> > > > *everyone* is highly qualified and utterly obsessed with precision
> > > > and procedural integrity.
> > >
> > > It happens. Life is not perfect.
> > >
> > > > > Things like this happen, you know.
> > > >
> > > > At CERN?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > > And it took half a bloody year to find it?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > 
> > Bullshit. If such a thing had occurred, it would have been
> > discoverable in the same day that the equipment inspection
> > was ordered.
> > 
> > > > That sort of incompetence would be considered unacceptable
> > > > in an auto repair shop.
> > >
> > > No. The system is orders of magnitude more subtle.
> > 
> > Irrelevant. The Technicians are more highly trained, more highly
> > organised, and more numerous. The whole setip is designed to
> > prevent such errors.
>
> Fascinating that you speak as though you were there and were

That's "are", moron.

> familiar with the procedures.

Laboratories everywhere have much in common, moron. One of them
is careful attention to detail. Another is the assignment of
particular areas of responsibility to particular individuals.
Another is the institution of failsafe procedures wherever
possibke.

I'd be interested to see your link to a laboratory somewhere
in respected of which it is reliably documented that "loose
connections" occurred and took months to find.

> Are you listed on the collaboration manifest?

Nope.

> No?

Yes.

> Then out of what orifice are you speaking?

Try addressing the points made, moron. Your attempts at abuse
are pathetic.

> > > > And you accept that it's the *real* story at CERN?
> > >
> > > Yes, of course. What's with that veritable MANIA of seeking
> > > totally absurd conspiracies where a simple explanation
> > > involving human error suffices?
> > 
> > What is it with that mania you dogmatising dimwits have of
> > accusing critics of harbouring conspiracy theories when
> > they're pointing up a perfectly ordinary case of self-deception?
> > 
> > ----further insane accusations snipped----

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


Page 15 of 16 — ← Prev page 1 … 13 14 [15] 16  Next page →

Back to top | Article view | sci.physics.relativity


csiph-web