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Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer?

Started bygehan.ameresekere@gmail.com
First post2017-07-28 00:30 -0700
Last post2017-08-20 15:21 -0700
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  Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-28 00:30 -0700
    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-07-28 10:02 +0200
      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-28 01:49 -0700
        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-28 01:52 -0700
        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-28 01:55 -0700
          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-28 06:58 -0700
            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-28 17:08 +0000
              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-29 07:34 -0700
                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-30 04:20 +0000
                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-30 06:11 -0700
                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Jeèným Ludnými <hovae@ieuuio.org> - 2017-07-30 13:16 +0000
                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-30 17:58 +0000
                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 06:41 -0700
                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-30 10:24 -0700
                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-30 18:09 +0000
                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-31 05:04 -0700
              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 10:30 -0500
                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-31 12:05 -0700
                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:58 -0500
                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-02 13:43 -0700
                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 13:01 -0500
                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-02 14:11 -0700
            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-31 16:19 -0400
              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-01 05:09 -0700
                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-01 14:12 +0000
                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-01 11:40 -0400
                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-01 10:01 -0700
                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:18 -0500
                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-02 13:46 -0700
                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 09:56 -0500
                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-03 08:07 -0700
                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-03 08:48 -0700
                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 09:51 -0700
                                Imbecile Stephane Baune hard at work. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-03 09:57 -0700
                                  Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune hard at work. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:30 -0700
                                    Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune hard at work. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-03 11:31 -0700
                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:31 -0700
                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 13:01 -0500
                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-03 11:33 -0700
                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 13:45 -0500
                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-03 12:20 -0700
                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-03 21:28 -0400
                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-03 19:33 -0700
                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-08-03 22:16 -0700
                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-04 09:55 -0400
                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-03 19:24 -0700
                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 02:38 +0000
                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-04 05:58 -0700
                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-04 07:09 -0700
                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-05 05:54 -0700
                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 14:05 +0000
                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-05 15:17 -0700
                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 03:03 +0000
                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-06 06:51 -0700
                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-06 07:05 -0700
                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-06 07:51 -0700
                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-06 08:50 -0700
                                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-06 10:54 -0700
                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 19:23 +0000
                                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-07 14:12 -0700
                                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 16:53 -0500
                                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 17:20 -0500
                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 16:29 -0700
                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 01:41 -0700
                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 09:12 -0700
                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-11 12:05 -0500
                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-11 10:59 -0700
                                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-13 22:40 -0500
                                                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-14 07:05 -0700
                                                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-14 07:12 -0700
                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 07:54 -0500
                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-08 07:38 -0700
                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-08 07:45 -0700
                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-08 07:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-08 14:24 +0000
                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:20 -0500
                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-09 07:59 -0700
                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 12:13 -0500
                                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-09 13:37 -0700
                                                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:50 -0500
                                                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-09 14:16 -0700
                                                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 16:17 -0500
                                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-10 08:21 -0700
                                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 10:30 -0500
                                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-10 08:40 -0700
                                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-18 08:12 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 14:01 -0500
                                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-07 23:12 -0700
                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 11:26 +0000
                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-08 06:55 -0700
                                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-08 07:23 -0700
                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:20 -0500
                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-09 07:34 -0700
                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 12:14 -0500
                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-09 13:35 -0700
                                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:50 -0500
                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 19:23 +0000
                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-07 14:08 -0700
                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 16:52 -0500
                                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-08 06:25 -0700
                                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:20 -0500
                                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-09 07:46 -0700
                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 12:11 -0500
                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-09 13:33 -0700
                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:49 -0500
                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-09 14:11 -0700
                                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 16:16 -0500
                                                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 22:15 -0700
                                                                        Cretin Stephane Baune ("rotchm") resurfaces from his shithole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-10 06:51 -0700
                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-09 23:21 -0700
                                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 12:42 -0700
                                                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-10 13:05 -0700
                                                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 13:23 -0700
                                                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-10 13:41 -0700
                                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 13:53 -0700
                                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-10 23:25 -0700
                                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 23:59 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-11 00:23 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:09 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-11 13:14 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 20:18 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-11 13:24 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 13:40 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-11 14:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 14:37 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 21:12 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-11 14:36 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 13:41 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 21:12 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-11 14:37 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 15:21 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Prudence Oppenheimer <phow@innfldo.sp> - 2017-08-11 22:31 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 15:40 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-13 23:11 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 14:39 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 13:36 -0700
                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-05 07:22 -0700
                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 07:38 -0700
                                            Cretin Stephane Baune intervenes in favor of fellow antirelativity crackpot, Ken Shito "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-05 07:43 -0700
                                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 11:41 -0500
                                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-05 09:53 -0700
                                        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 12:04 -0500
                                          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-05 15:24 -0700
                                            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 03:03 +0000
                                              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-05 21:39 -0700
                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-01 23:15 -0700
                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 02:46 -0700
                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-04 11:08 -0400
        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-07-28 11:12 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-28 15:34 -0700
          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-07-29 00:59 +0200
            Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 16:06 -0700
              Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-07-29 01:07 +0200
                Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-28 19:06 -0700
                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-07-29 14:14 +0200
                  Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Aolf Göbel <adolf.goebel@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 15:26 +0200
                    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 15:21 -0700
                      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-04 16:21 +0000
      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-28 01:51 -0700
        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 14:56 -0700
          Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-29 01:03 -0700
    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 06:11 -0700
      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-30 20:23 -0700
        Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-07-30 20:48 -0700
    Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-28 08:21 -0500
      Re: Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer? Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-28 19:58 +0000
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#426413 — Is it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer?

Fromgehan.ameresekere@gmail.com
Date2017-07-28 00:30 -0700
SubjectIs it possible to test the second postulate of Special Relativity using a laser pointer?
Message-ID<c0a71bb9-f9d2-4001-a3ba-7a03ba6583a1@googlegroups.com>
Rotating a laser pointer mounted on a turntable - can it be used to test the constancy of the speed of light?

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#426414

FromPoutnik <poutnik@privacy.net>
Date2017-07-28 10:02 +0200
Message-ID<oleqr0$fst$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#426413
Dne 28/07/2017 v 09:30 gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com napsal(a):
> Rotating a laser pointer mounted on a turntable - can it be used to test the constancy of the speed of light?
> 
It can, but ..  good luck.

The light speed constancy was tested in very high accuracy
by many people who need not to ask such a question
and who also knew such a scenario is highly inconvenient.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#426416

Fromgehan.ameresekere@gmail.com
Date2017-07-28 01:49 -0700
Message-ID<60af34bf-d12c-4ba7-aea6-6ee4c1d2fb85@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426414
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 1:32:30 PM UTC+5:30, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 28/07/2017 v 09:30 g.......com napsal(a):
> > Rotating a laser pointer mounted on a turntable - can it be used to test the constancy of the speed of light?
> > 
> It can, but ..  good luck.
> 
> The light speed constancy was tested in very high accuracy
> by many people who need not to ask such a question
> and who also knew such a scenario is highly inconvenient.
> 
> -- 
> Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
> 
> A wise man guards words he says,
> as they say about him more,
> than he says about the subject.

Of course. There are may here who disagree with the second postulate, so if there is a way to settle the issue we could save a lot of ink.

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#426418

Fromgehan.ameresekere@gmail.com
Date2017-07-28 01:52 -0700
Message-ID<9530c804-6519-451e-8702-e76b0cb94134@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426416
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:19:22 PM UTC+5:30, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 1:32:30 PM UTC+5:30, Poutnik wrote:
> > Dne 28/07/2017 v 09:30 g.......com napsal(a):
> > > Rotating a laser pointer mounted on a turntable - can it be used to test the constancy of the speed of light?
> > > 
> > It can, but ..  good luck.
> > 
> > The light speed constancy was tested in very high accuracy
> > by many people who need not to ask such a question
> > and who also knew such a scenario is highly inconvenient.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
> > 
> > A wise man guards words he says,
> > as they say about him more,
> > than he says about the subject.
> 
> Of course. There are may here who disagree with the second postulate, so if there is a way to settle the issue we could save a lot of ink.

"Kennedy–Thorndike experiment, by which the dependence of the speed of light on the velocity of the measuring device can be tested. It establishes the relation between longitudinal lengths and the duration of time of moving bodies."

How will anti-relativists explain this result:

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#426419

Fromgehan.ameresekere@gmail.com
Date2017-07-28 01:55 -0700
Message-ID<56afb2da-cabd-4ea5-8d9d-1e506dad42f2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426416
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:19:22 PM UTC+5:30, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 1:32:30 PM UTC+5:30, Poutnik wrote:
> > Dne 28/07/2017 v 09:30 g.......com napsal(a):
> > > Rotating a laser pointer mounted on a turntable - can it be used to test the constancy of the speed of light?
> > > 
> > It can, but ..  good luck.
> > 
> > The light speed constancy was tested in very high accuracy
> > by many people who need not to ask such a question
> > and who also knew such a scenario is highly inconvenient.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
> > 
> > A wise man guards words he says,
> > as they say about him more,
> > than he says about the subject.
> 
> Of course. There are may here who disagree with the second postulate, so if there is a way to settle the issue we could save a lot of ink.

And Henry was right about this:

"A series of one-way measurements were undertaken, all of them confirming the isotropy of the speed of light.[5] However, it should be noted that only the two-way speed of light (from A to B back to A) can unambiguously be measured, since the one-way speed depends on the definition of simultaneity and therefore on the method of synchronization"

All Wikipedia quotes.

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#426440

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-28 06:58 -0700
Message-ID<eee06f50-a70f-4014-8dbf-1cb4a7cdb7d0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426419
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 4:55:24 AM UTC-4, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:19:22 PM UTC+5:30, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 1:32:30 PM UTC+5:30, Poutnik wrote:
> > > Dne 28/07/2017 v 09:30 g.......com napsal(a):
> > > > Rotating a laser pointer mounted on a turntable - can it be used to test the constancy of the speed of light?
> > > > 
> > > It can, but ..  good luck.
> > > 
> > > The light speed constancy was tested in very high accuracy
> > > by many people who need not to ask such a question
> > > and who also knew such a scenario is highly inconvenient.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
> > > 
> > > A wise man guards words he says,
> > > as they say about him more,
> > > than he says about the subject.
> > 
> > Of course. There are may here who disagree with the second postulate, so if there is a way to settle the issue we could save a lot of ink.
> 
> And Henry was right about this:
> 
> "A series of one-way measurements were undertaken, all of them confirming the isotropy of the speed of light.[5] However, it should be noted that only the two-way speed of light (from A to B back to A) can unambiguously be measured, since the one-way speed depends on the definition of simultaneity and therefore on the method of synchronization"
> 
> All Wikipedia quotes.

ONE-WAY OR TWO-WAYS isotropy can be tested. But actual value of one way speed of light is not testable.....Why? physicists claim that it is not possible to absolute synchronize two spatially separated clocks. 

Although this is a false claim. Why? Because they measure the speed of neutrino with two spatially separated clocks. Question: Why can they use the same procedure to measure the one-way speed of light?

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#426453

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-28 17:08 +0000
Message-ID<olfr2j$vth$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#426440
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>ONE-WAY OR TWO-WAYS isotropy can be tested. But actual value of one way speed
>of light is not testable.....Why? physicists claim that it is not possible to
>absolute synchronize two spatially separated clocks.

>Although this is a false claim. Why? Because they measure the speed of neutrino
>with two spatially separated clocks. Question: Why can they use the same 
>procedure to measure the one-way speed of light?

Because what they get when they measure neutrino speed actually is the ratio of
neutrino speed to the speed of light.  That way they can tell if neutrinos move
at the speed of light (the ratio is 1:1) or slower (ratio is less than 1:1).
Or even faster. Some cable error initially produced that result at one time.

Use the same procedure to try to measure the one way speed of light and you
will get the ratio of the speed of light to the speed of light. The ratio
will always be 1:1, of course, and that tells you exactly nothing.

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#426541

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-29 07:34 -0700
Message-ID<040a3d01-0d68-4efb-8676-96e89364fac6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426453
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
> >ONE-WAY OR TWO-WAYS isotropy can be tested. But actual value of one way speed
> >of light is not testable.....Why? physicists claim that it is not possible to
> >absolute synchronize two spatially separated clocks.
> 
> >Although this is a false claim. Why? Because they measure the speed of neutrino
> >with two spatially separated clocks. Question: Why can they use the same 
> >procedure to measure the one-way speed of light?
> 
> Because what they get when they measure neutrino speed actually is the ratio of
> neutrino speed to the speed of light.  That way they can tell if neutrinos move
> at the speed of light (the ratio is 1:1) or slower (ratio is less than 1:1).
> Or even faster. Some cable error initially produced that result at one time.

No, they measured the actual  value of one-way speed of neutrino and compare it to the defined value of the one-way speed of light. 
My question was: why don’t they use the same neutrino procedure to measure the actual value of the one-way speed of light.
> 
> Use the same procedure to try to measure the one way speed of light and you
> will get the ratio of the speed of light to the speed of light. The ratio
> will always be 1:1, of course, and that tells you exactly nothing.

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#426586

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-30 04:20 +0000
Message-ID<oljmql$5n7$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#426541
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> >with two spatially separated clocks. Question: Why can they use the same
>> >procedure to measure the one-way speed of light?

>> Because what they get when they measure neutrino speed actually is the ratio of
>> neutrino speed to the speed of light.  That way they can tell if neutrinos move
>> at the speed of light (the ratio is 1:1) or slower (ratio is less than 1:1).
>> Or even faster. Some cable error initially produced that result at one ti=
>me.

>No, they measured the actual  value of one-way speed of neutrino and compare
>it to the defined value of the one-way speed of light.

And you have a ratio of the neutrino speed and c.

>My question was: why don't they use the same neutrino procedure to
>measure the actual value of the one-way speed of light.

Again, Stupid Ken, that would mean comparing the speed of light to the
speed of light, and that isn't going to produce a useful answer. They will
find that light moves at the speed of light, which tells them exactly
nothing.  You can't compare something to itself.

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#426612

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-30 06:11 -0700
Message-ID<6f19d54b-4f71-4b28-9c60-0b28641efed6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426586
On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 12:20:40 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
> >> >with two spatially separated clocks. Question: Why can they use the same
> >> >procedure to measure the one-way speed of light?
> 
> >> Because what they get when they measure neutrino speed actually is the ratio of
> >> neutrino speed to the speed of light.  That way they can tell if neutrinos move
> >> at the speed of light (the ratio is 1:1) or slower (ratio is less than 1:1).
> >> Or even faster. Some cable error initially produced that result at one ti=
> >me.
> 
> >No, they measured the actual  value of one-way speed of neutrino and compare
> >it to the defined value of the one-way speed of light.
> 
> And you have a ratio of the neutrino speed and c.
> 
> >My question was: why don't they use the same neutrino procedure to
> >measure the actual value of the one-way speed of light.
> 
> Again, Stupid Ken, that would mean comparing the speed of light to the
> speed of light, and that isn't going to produce a useful answer. They will
> find that light moves at the speed of light, which tells them exactly
> nothing.  You can't compare something to itself.

Hey moron.....such measurement would confirm that the defined value of OWLS is correct or not. Gee you are so fucking stupid. No wonder your name is Moron-y

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#426613

FromJeèným Ludnými <hovae@ieuuio.org>
Date2017-07-30 13:16 +0000
Message-ID<olkm6k$l44$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#426612
Dne 28.7.2017 v 12:11 kenseto napsal(a):

> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 12:20:40 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Again, Stupid Ken, that would mean comparing the speed of light to the
>> speed of light, and that isn't going to produce a useful answer. They
>> will find that light moves at the speed of light, which tells them
>> exactly nothing.  You can't compare something to itself.
> 
> Hey moron.....such measurement would confirm that the defined value of
> OWLS is correct or not. Gee you are so fucking stupid. No wonder your
> name is Moron-y

I couldn't agree more.

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#426631

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-30 17:58 +0000
Message-ID<oll6oh$r5s$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#426613
The nymshifting troll <hovae@ieuuio.org> writes:

>I couldn't agree

Of course you can't agree, nymshifter. You can't even agree on a nym to
post under.

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#426617

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-30 06:41 -0700
Message-ID<5de7f2c9-225c-40f7-855c-d8a272613c35@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426541
On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 10:34:29 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:

> My question was: why don’t they use the same neutrino procedure to
>  measure the actual value of the one-way speed of light.

They do. And they get that c = c. Of course they will get that because the setup is built (the synch procedure) so that the "OWLS" is c. 

And BTW, even when measuring the  "owls" of a neutrino, they are using a TWLS procedure (because of the sync procedure). 

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#426626

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-30 10:24 -0700
Message-ID<3bf56cf3-0e9b-42a6-a33c-01891ca74281@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426617
On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 9:41:09 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
> On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 10:34:29 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > My question was: why don’t they use the same neutrino procedure to
> >  measure the actual value of the one-way speed of light.
> 
> They do. And they get that c = c. Of course they will get that because the setup is built (the synch procedure) so that the "OWLS" is c. 

Assertions are not valid argument.....the synch procedure got nothing to do with it.

> 
> And BTW, even when measuring the  "owls" of a neutrino, they are using a TWLS procedure (because of the sync procedure).

Nope.

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#426632

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-30 18:09 +0000
Message-ID<oll7d3$r5s$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#426626
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 9:41:09 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 10:34:29 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>
>> > My question was: why don't they use the same neutrino procedure to
>> >  measure the actual value of the one-way speed of light.
>>
>> They do. And they get that c = c. Of course they will get that because
>the setup is built (the synch procedure) so that the "OWLS" is c.

>Assertions are not valid argument.....

So you are stating that "c = c" is an assertion and not a simple 
tautology, Stupid Ken?

Anyway, if you say "Assertions are not valid argument" why do you make
so many unsupported assertions, Ken?

>> And BTW, even when measuring the  "owls" of a neutrino, they are using a
>>TWLS procedure (because of the sync procedure).

>Nope.

Assertions are not valid argument, Ken. That's the only way to measure the 
neutrino speed. Read the papers.

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#426680

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-31 05:04 -0700
Message-ID<3dbc547e-6fd4-4ae2-ae52-101117049f23@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426632
On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 2:09:42 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
> >On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 9:41:09 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
> >> On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 10:34:29 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>
> >> > My question was: why don't they use the same neutrino procedure to
> >> >  measure the actual value of the one-way speed of light.
> >>
> >> They do. And they get that c = c. Of course they will get that because
> >the setup is built (the synch procedure) so that the "OWLS" is c.
> 
> >Assertions are not valid argument.....
> 
> So you are stating that "c = c" is an assertion and not a simple 
> tautology, Stupid Ken?

Moron, one of the c is a defined constant and the other is a measured value. If the defined constant is equal to the measured value then the claim of c=c is a valid claim. Gee you are so fucking stupid. No wonder your name is Moron-y.

> 
> Anyway, if you say "Assertions are not valid argument" why do you make
> so many unsupported assertions, Ken?
> 
> >> And BTW, even when measuring the  "owls" of a neutrino, they are using a
> >>TWLS procedure (because of the sync procedure).
> 
> >Nope.
> 
> Assertions are not valid argument, Ken. That's the only way to measure the 
> neutrino speed. Read the papers.

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#426705

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-31 10:30 -0500
Message-ID<olnie6$1a7d$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#426453
On 7/28/17 12:08 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
>> ONE-WAY OR TWO-WAYS isotropy can be tested. But actual value of one way speed
>> of light is not testable.....Why? physicists claim that it is not possible to
>> absolute synchronize two spatially separated clocks.
> 
>> Although this is a false claim. Why? Because they measure the speed of neutrino
>> with two spatially separated clocks. Question: Why can they use the same
>> procedure to measure the one-way speed of light?
> 
> Because what they get when they measure neutrino speed actually is the ratio of
> neutrino speed to the speed of light.  That way they can tell if neutrinos move
> at the speed of light (the ratio is 1:1) or slower (ratio is less than 1:1).
> Or even faster. Some cable error initially produced that result at one time.
> 
> Use the same procedure to try to measure the one way speed of light and you
> will get the ratio of the speed of light to the speed of light. The ratio
> will always be 1:1, of course, and that tells you exactly nothing.
> 

Ken has zero experimental skills. He has no idea that making a 
measurement using the same procedure used to calibrate your instrument 
is a scientific no-no. This suggestion alone will result in him getting 
laughed out of any experimental physicist's office.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#426720

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-31 12:05 -0700
Message-ID<b287adde-23c2-4b20-a769-09d242fbe3f0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426705
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 11:30:18 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/28/17 12:08 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> > 
> >> ONE-WAY OR TWO-WAYS isotropy can be tested. But actual value of one way speed
> >> of light is not testable.....Why? physicists claim that it is not possible to
> >> absolute synchronize two spatially separated clocks.
> > 
> >> Although this is a false claim. Why? Because they measure the speed of neutrino
> >> with two spatially separated clocks. Question: Why can they use the same
> >> procedure to measure the one-way speed of light?
> > 
> > Because what they get when they measure neutrino speed actually is the ratio of
> > neutrino speed to the speed of light.  That way they can tell if neutrinos move
> > at the speed of light (the ratio is 1:1) or slower (ratio is less than 1:1).
> > Or even faster. Some cable error initially produced that result at one time.
> > 
> > Use the same procedure to try to measure the one way speed of light and you
> > will get the ratio of the speed of light to the speed of light. The ratio
> > will always be 1:1, of course, and that tells you exactly nothing.
> > 
> 
> Ken has zero experimental skills. He has no idea that making a 
> measurement using the same procedure used to calibrate your instrument 
> is a scientific no-no. This suggestion alone will result in him getting 
> laughed out of any experimental physicist's office.

ROTFLOL.....it is you who have zero experimental skill. The GPS was used to synch two spatially separate clocks to measure the speed of neutrino the same procedure can be used to synch two clocks to measure the OWLS. Gee you are stupid.

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#426914

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-02 10:58 -0500
Message-ID<olssrn$1pa0$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#426720
On 7/31/17 2:05 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 11:30:18 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/28/17 12:08 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> ONE-WAY OR TWO-WAYS isotropy can be tested. But actual value of one way speed
>>>> of light is not testable.....Why? physicists claim that it is not possible to
>>>> absolute synchronize two spatially separated clocks.
>>>
>>>> Although this is a false claim. Why? Because they measure the speed of neutrino
>>>> with two spatially separated clocks. Question: Why can they use the same
>>>> procedure to measure the one-way speed of light?
>>>
>>> Because what they get when they measure neutrino speed actually is the ratio of
>>> neutrino speed to the speed of light.  That way they can tell if neutrinos move
>>> at the speed of light (the ratio is 1:1) or slower (ratio is less than 1:1).
>>> Or even faster. Some cable error initially produced that result at one time.
>>>
>>> Use the same procedure to try to measure the one way speed of light and you
>>> will get the ratio of the speed of light to the speed of light. The ratio
>>> will always be 1:1, of course, and that tells you exactly nothing.
>>>
>>
>> Ken has zero experimental skills. He has no idea that making a
>> measurement using the same procedure used to calibrate your instrument
>> is a scientific no-no. This suggestion alone will result in him getting
>> laughed out of any experimental physicist's office.
> 
> ROTFLOL.....it is you who have zero experimental skill. The GPS was used to synch two spatially separate clocks to measure the speed of neutrino the same procedure can be used to synch two clocks to measure the OWLS. Gee you are stupid.
> 

Yes, and that's allowed because the system used to measure the speed of 
neutrinos was calibrated with light (that's what the GPS system uses). 
If you use a system calibrated with light to measure the speed of light, 
you are committing the scientific boo-boo. It'd be like trying to 
measure the weight of a watermelon with a scale calibrated with watermelons.

You are an experimental ninny.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#426960

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-08-02 13:43 -0700
Message-ID<bf65bf24-5d8e-4466-af80-0ca040476f8c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426914
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 11:58:52 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/31/17 2:05 PM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 11:30:18 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 7/28/17 12:08 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> ONE-WAY OR TWO-WAYS isotropy can be tested. But actual value of one way speed
> >>>> of light is not testable.....Why? physicists claim that it is not possible to
> >>>> absolute synchronize two spatially separated clocks.
> >>>
> >>>> Although this is a false claim. Why? Because they measure the speed of neutrino
> >>>> with two spatially separated clocks. Question: Why can they use the same
> >>>> procedure to measure the one-way speed of light?
> >>>
> >>> Because what they get when they measure neutrino speed actually is the ratio of
> >>> neutrino speed to the speed of light.  That way they can tell if neutrinos move
> >>> at the speed of light (the ratio is 1:1) or slower (ratio is less than 1:1).
> >>> Or even faster. Some cable error initially produced that result at one time.
> >>>
> >>> Use the same procedure to try to measure the one way speed of light and you
> >>> will get the ratio of the speed of light to the speed of light. The ratio
> >>> will always be 1:1, of course, and that tells you exactly nothing.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ken has zero experimental skills. He has no idea that making a
> >> measurement using the same procedure used to calibrate your instrument
> >> is a scientific no-no. This suggestion alone will result in him getting
> >> laughed out of any experimental physicist's office.
> > 
> > ROTFLOL.....it is you who have zero experimental skill. The GPS was used to synch two spatially separate clocks to measure the speed of neutrino the same procedure can be used to synch two clocks to measure the OWLS. Gee you are stupid.
> > 
> 
> Yes, and that's allowed because the system used to measure the speed of 
> neutrinos was calibrated with light (that's what the GPS system uses). 
> If you use a system calibrated with light to measure the speed of light, 
> you are committing the scientific boo-boo. It'd be like trying to 
> measure the weight of a watermelon with a scale calibrated with watermelons.

Idiot,..We do that with weights all the time. A scale is calibrated by place a kg wt. on the scale and it is adjusted to read 1 kg. After calibration you put the watermelon to measure its weight. from time to time you recalibrate the scale by putting the standard wt on it to make sure it remains calibrated.

> 
> You are an experimental ninny.
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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