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What Happened to Seto?

Started by"HGW..." <hgw@....>
First post2017-06-12 20:18 +1000
Last post2017-06-23 21:14 -0700
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  What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 20:18 +1000
    Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-12 15:43 +0000
      Re: What Happened to Seto? Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 17:43 +0000
      Re: What Happened to Seto? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-12 21:57 +0200
    Re: What Happened to Seto? Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-06-12 18:03 +0200
      Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-12 09:34 -0700
        Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 04:39 +1000
          Re: What Happened to Seto? Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 18:40 +0000
            Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 05:26 +1000
    Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:57 -0500
      Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 05:28 +1000
        Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 15:14 -0500
    Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-13 07:17 -0700
      Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 15:16 -0500
        Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-14 08:58 +1000
          Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 10:45 -0500
        Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-14 07:26 -0700
          Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-14 15:00 +0000
          Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 11:30 -0500
            Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-15 06:15 +1000
              Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 15:48 -0500
                Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-15 06:54 +1000
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 15:56 -0500
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 01:55 +0000
                    Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-15 20:54 +1000
                      Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 13:01 +0000
                        Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-16 03:41 +1000
                          Re: What Happened to Seto? Kotovanich Nzerovu <ivhvruo@wovewvw.ev> - 2017-06-15 17:49 +0000
                            Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-16 04:28 +1000
                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 16:44 -0500
                                Re: What Happened to Seto? Nými Icelulózy <ejienm@wzsfwe.ul> - 2017-06-16 11:28 +0000
                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Nými Icelulózy <ejienm@wzsfwe.ul> - 2017-06-16 18:27 +0000
                          Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 16:37 -0500
                            Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 07:23 +0000
                          Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 07:21 +0000
                Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-15 07:25 -0700
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 10:24 -0500
                    Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-16 06:08 -0700
                      Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:23 -0500
                        Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-16 06:28 -0700
                          Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:37 -0500
                            Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-16 06:47 -0700
                              Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 15:25 +0000
                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 15:02 -0500
                                Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-17 07:35 -0700
                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 11:48 -0500
                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-17 12:03 -0700
                                      Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 22:21 +0000
                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-18 04:27 -0700
                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-06-18 13:52 +0200
                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-19 05:09 -0700
                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Rhett Doucet <ttdh@etoe.ee> - 2017-06-19 12:42 +0000
                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-06-19 17:26 +0200
                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 12:32 +0000
                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-19 05:16 -0700
                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-19 12:38 +0000
                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 13:03 -0500
                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-19 11:24 -0700
                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 13:30 -0500
                                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-21 06:16 -0700
                                                      Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:08 -0500
                                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-22 07:45 -0700
                                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 15:28 -0500
                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-24 05:46 -0700
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-24 17:05 +0000
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 15:49 -0500
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 16:06 -0700
                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-05 02:50 +0000
                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-04 22:58 -0500
                                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-07-05 20:22 +1000
                                                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? Oveho Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-05 11:08 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Oveho Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-05 11:06 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-05 04:26 -0700
                                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Oveho Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-06 13:19 +0000
                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? Oveho Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-05 11:05 +0000
                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-05 04:20 -0700
                                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 12:44 -0500
                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-19 11:25 -0700
                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-19 20:26 +0000
                                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 16:12 -0500
                                                      Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-21 06:23 -0700
                                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:10 -0500
                                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-22 09:00 +1000
                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-22 01:16 +0000
                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 15:29 -0500
                                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-22 01:56 +0000
                                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:43 +0000
                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 05:49 -0700
                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-22 06:54 -0700
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-22 15:58 +0000
                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-23 09:30 +1000
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-23 09:18 +0200
                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-23 23:34 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 09:26 +1000
                                                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-25 00:55 +0000
                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? Julianna Eliason <nujasenea@wiwnwajau.nc> - 2017-06-18 14:20 +0000
                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-18 08:45 -0700
                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Julianna Eliason <nujasenea@wiwnwajau.nc> - 2017-06-18 15:47 +0000
                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-18 16:10 +0000
                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-18 16:08 +0000
                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Julianna Eliason <nujasenea@wiwnwajau.nc> - 2017-06-18 16:54 +0000
                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-18 03:15 +0000
                          Re: What Happened to Seto? Nými Icelulózy <ejienm@wzsfwe.ul> - 2017-06-16 13:52 +0000
            Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-15 07:21 -0700
              Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 10:23 -0500
                Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-16 06:05 -0700
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:21 -0500
                    Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 15:44 +0000
              Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 11:14 -0500
                Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-16 06:23 -0700
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:26 -0500
                    Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-16 08:11 -0700
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-17 15:02 +1000
                    Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-17 11:56 -0700
      Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-14 09:21 +1000
        Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-14 07:12 -0700
        Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-15 06:34 +1000
      Re: What Happened to Seto? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 10:17 -0700
      Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-13 23:47 -0700
        Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-15 08:49 -0700
          Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-16 00:57 +0000
        Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-15 08:51 -0700
      Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-13 23:59 -0700
        Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-15 08:23 +1000
          Re: What Happened to Seto? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-14 18:50 -0700
          Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-15 08:38 -0700
            Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-17 08:25 +1000
              Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-17 02:10 +0000
              Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-17 07:11 -0700
                Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-18 08:53 +1000
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-18 05:52 -0700
                    Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-18 14:50 +0000
                      Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 09:48 +1000
                        Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-19 01:42 +0000
                          Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 19:33 +1000
                            Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-19 19:45 +0000
                              Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-20 08:14 +1000
                                Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-20 08:42 +0000
                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-21 14:37 +1000
                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-21 19:18 +0000
                                      Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-22 08:15 +1000
                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 15:47 -0700
                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 21:18 -0700
                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-22 03:16 -0700
                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-23 07:00 -0700
                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 02:16 +0000
                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 20:07 -0700
                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 20:39 -0700
                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 10:19 -0500
                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-26 12:12 +1000
                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 13:21 -0500
                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-27 19:58 +1000
                                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 10:39 -0500
                                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-27 16:25 +0000
                                                      Re: What Happened to Seto? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 10:11 -0700
                                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 13:01 -0500
                                                      Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 11:53 -0700
                                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 19:35 +0000
                                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 13:11 -0700
                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 19:38 -0700
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-28 03:54 -0700
                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 19:35 -0700
                                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-04 00:04 -0700
                                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-28 09:48 +1000
                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-28 13:54 +0000
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-29 00:46 -0700
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 09:04 +1000
                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-30 23:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-31 10:40 +1000
                                                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 10:08 -0500
                                                                      Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-01 09:57 +1000
                                                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-01 03:11 +0000
                                                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-02 08:31 +1000
                                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? Jeèným Ludnými <hovae@ieuuio.org> - 2017-08-02 09:04 +0000
                                                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 11:00 -0500
                                                                          Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-03 07:15 +1000
                                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:27 -0500
                                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-04 11:48 +1000
                                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 02:34 +0000
                                                            Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 09:01 -0500
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 14:42 -0700
                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-01 03:02 -0700
                                                                  Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-01 13:57 +0000
                                                                    Re: What Happened to Seto? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-01 10:43 -0700
                                                              Re: What Happened to Seto? "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-01 09:56 +1000
                                                                Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:08 -0500
                                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 19:33 -0700
                                        Re: What Happened to Seto? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-22 02:49 +0000
                    Re: What Happened to Seto? shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 08:43 -0700
        Re: What Happened to Seto? shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 19:46 -0700
          Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-15 02:12 -0700
            Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-15 02:14 -0700
              Re: What Happened to Seto? Garfield Dieter <igdle@rdlge.rf> - 2017-07-15 10:41 +0000
          Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-15 08:27 -0700
        Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-15 09:05 -0700
          Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-16 21:39 -0700
            Re: What Happened to Seto? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-16 22:16 -0700
              Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-17 00:08 -0700
                Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-17 08:00 -0700
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-17 09:39 -0700
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-18 21:18 -0700
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 14:47 -0700
                    Re: What Happened to Seto? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-20 19:16 -0400
                    Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-21 12:59 -0700
              Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-17 07:51 -0700
            Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-17 07:45 -0700
              Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-17 20:02 -0700
                Re: What Happened to Seto? gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-17 20:19 -0700
    Re: What Happened to Seto? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-20 11:39 +1000
      Re: What Happened to Seto? Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-21 11:43 +0000
        Re: What Happened to Seto? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-21 23:10 +1000
          Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-21 06:28 -0700
            Re: What Happened to Seto? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:06 -0500
              Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-22 07:50 -0700
                Re: What Happened to Seto? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-24 11:11 +1000
                  Re: What Happened to Seto? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-23 21:14 -0700

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#425093

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-16 00:57 +0000
Message-ID<okedli$ihh$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#425036
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> Reading your book now. Have you got an opinion from scientists on the book?

>I was granted the copyright for my book and the copyright reviewer commented
>that my book contains original ideas on physics and cosmology.

Stupid Ken, you still don't know the difference between "original" and
"good", "scientific", "accurate" etc. ?  And you don't know the difference
between "scientist" and "copyright reviewer"?

Stupid Ken, what do you think would happen if I gave a two-year-old some
paper and crayons, then took the resulting drawing to a fine arts museum
and asked the museum's experts if the drawing was original? They'd say
yes, of course. But then ask if it was worthy of being displayed in the
museum...  Your IRT is "original" the same way a two-year-old's drawing
is, and for the same reason...

Also, you were asked if *scientists* had an opinion on your failed IRT,
not copyright reviewers.  Guess what actual scientists would say....

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#425037

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-15 08:51 -0700
Message-ID<04f5c6ba-dfd1-4e0c-89b7-52e8c2781e93@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#424814
On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 2:47:39 AM UTC-4, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 7:47:16 PM UTC+5:30, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 6:18:33 AM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:
> > > Maybe he died. Maybe he has changed his nickname because he was so 
> > > ashamed of his theory.
> > 
> > I am tired of the low level of the intelligence that exists in this NG. I published a new book of the universe (http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf) that includes the following items......no body in this NG bothers to give any intelligent comment:
> > 
> > _	It offers a realistic origin of the universe. 
> > _	It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters. 
> > _	It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes.
> > _	It provides a mechanism to unify all the forces of nature. 
> > _	It can be validated experimentally. 
> > _	It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT). 
> > _	It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity (DTG)
> > _	It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity as subsets.
> > _	It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics.
> > _	It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force.
> > _	It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle.
> > _      It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum    experiments. 
> > _	It explains the structures of atoms.
> 
> Hi Ken
> 
> Reading your book now. Have you got an opinion from scientists on the book?

Some favorable comments from the people in the FQXi group.

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#424816

Fromgehan.ameresekere@gmail.com
Date2017-07-13 23:59 -0700
Message-ID<c1a2f323-ae47-48e9-9e6f-df8052e1fb22@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#422453
On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 7:47:16 PM UTC+5:30, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 6:18:33 AM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:
> > Maybe he died. Maybe he has changed his nickname because he was so 
> > ashamed of his theory.
> 
> I am tired of the low level of the intelligence that exists in this NG. I published a new book of the universe (http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf) that includes the following items......no body in this NG bothers to give any intelligent comment:
> 
> _	It offers a realistic origin of the universe. 
> _	It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters. 
> _	It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes.
> _	It provides a mechanism to unify all the forces of nature. 
> _	It can be validated experimentally. 
> _	It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT). 
> _	It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity (DTG)
> _	It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity as subsets.
> _	It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics.
> _	It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force.
> _	It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle.
> _      It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum    experiments. 
> _	It explains the structures of atoms.

Intriguing. Several comments:

1.  I do not have the expertise to evaluate your theory
2.  There are several possible objections to the theory: 

a) Philosophical objections
b) Objections based on mathematical inconsistencies
c) Objections based on logic
d) Objects based on negative experimental results.

In my opinion, you do not have to worry about (a), or (c). Previous theories have survived without these problems.

Have you got your theory peer-reviewed for the mathematics? What experimental results does it predict?

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#424930

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-15 08:23 +1000
Message-ID<okbg8f$17g2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#424816
On 14/07/17 16:59, gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 7:47:16 PM UTC+5:30, kenseto wrote:

> Intriguing. Several comments:
> 
> 1.  I do not have the expertise to evaluate your theory
> 2.  There are several possible objections to the theory:
> 
> a) Philosophical objections
> b) Objections based on mathematical inconsistencies
> c) Objections based on logic
> d) Objects based on negative experimental results.
> 
> In my opinion, you do not have to worry about (a), or (c). Previous theories have survived without these problems.
> 
> Have you got your theory peer-reviewed for the mathematics? What experimental results does it predict?

You're wasting your time reading Ken's paper. It is just another aether 
theory. You should read my thesis on Ballistic Light. 
http://www.scisite.info/books/bath/bath.html


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#424942

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2017-07-14 18:50 -0700
Message-ID<626b3885-1026-44c2-8639-263081f2f797@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#424930
On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 4:23:17 PM UTC-6, HGW... wrote:
>
> On 14/07/17 16:59, gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Intriguing. Several comments:
> > 
> > 1.  I do not have the expertise to evaluate your theory
> > 2.  There are several possible objections to the theory:
> > 
> > a) Philosophical objections
> > b) Objections based on mathematical inconsistencies
> > c) Objections based on logic
> > d) Objects based on negative experimental results.
> > 
> > In my opinion, you do not have to worry about (a), or (c). Previous
> > theories have survived without these problems.
> > 
> > Have you got your theory peer-reviewed for the mathematics?

No, he doesn't.

> > What experimental results does it predict?

None.

> You're wasting your time reading Ken's paper. It is just another aether 
> theory. You should read my thesis on Ballistic Light. 
> http://www.scisite.info/books/bath/bath.html

That's a waste of time, too.  Both have been refuted by copious experimental
evidence.

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#425033

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-15 08:38 -0700
Message-ID<94dbe94a-e502-4491-9b7b-8a4ebef3f5fe@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#424930
On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 6:23:17 PM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:
> On 14/07/17 16:59, gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 7:47:16 PM UTC+5:30, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > Intriguing. Several comments:
> > 
> > 1.  I do not have the expertise to evaluate your theory
> > 2.  There are several possible objections to the theory:
> > 
> > a) Philosophical objections
> > b) Objections based on mathematical inconsistencies
> > c) Objections based on logic
> > d) Objects based on negative experimental results.
> > 
> > In my opinion, you do not have to worry about (a), or (c). Previous theories have survived without these problems.
> > 
> > Have you got your theory peer-reviewed for the mathematics? What experimental results does it predict?
> 
> You're wasting your time reading Ken's paper. It is just another aether 
> theory. You should read my thesis on Ballistic Light. 
> http://www.scisite.info/books/bath/bath.html
> 

ROTFLOL your claim is laughable.....Your ballistic light theory is just a subset of Model Mechanics’ wave-packet and Einstein’s photon. You have no idea why light comes in the form of ballistic (wave-packet). Model Mechanics explains that a wave-packet is formed due to the absolute motion of the source in the E-Matrix (see page 33 of my book).

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#425230

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-17 08:25 +1000
Message-ID<okgp5h$cmr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#425033
On 16/07/17 01:38, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 6:23:17 PM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:

>>> In my opinion, you do not have to worry about (a), or (c).
>>> Previous theories have survived without these problems.
>>> 
>>> Have you got your theory peer-reviewed for the mathematics? What
>>> experimental results does it predict?
>> 
>> You're wasting your time reading Ken's paper. It is just another
>> aether theory. You should read my thesis on Ballistic Light. 
>> http://www.scisite.info/books/bath/bath.html
>> 
> 
> ROTFLOL your claim is laughable.....Your ballistic light theory is
> just a subset of Model Mechanics’ wave-packet and Einstein’s photon.
> You have no idea why light comes in the form of ballistic
> (wave-packet). Model Mechanics explains that a wave-packet is formed
> due to the absolute motion of the source in the E-Matrix (see page 33
> of my book).

You E-matrix is just another version of classical aether. Light is not a
wave in any bloody E-Matrix. It is particulate and ballistic in empty
space, ie., in 'nothing'.


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#425249

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-17 02:10 +0000
Message-ID<okh6a6$a9a$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#425230
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes:

>On 16/07/17 01:38, kenseto wrote:
>> On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 6:23:17 PM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:

...

Kookfight!!! In this corner, with his failed Model Mechanics, is Ken Seto
.... And in this corner, with his DirtyBaThWater, is Ralph M. Rabbidge!
Who will come out as Kook Champion!?!? The Biggest Relativity Kook of All?

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#425300

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-17 07:11 -0700
Message-ID<b41f8208-3fec-4aa4-b4b3-748bd5531ea8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#425230
On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 6:25:58 PM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:
> On 16/07/17 01:38, kenseto wrote:
> > On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 6:23:17 PM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:
> 
> >>> In my opinion, you do not have to worry about (a), or (c).
> >>> Previous theories have survived without these problems.
> >>> 
> >>> Have you got your theory peer-reviewed for the mathematics? What
> >>> experimental results does it predict?
> >> 
> >> You're wasting your time reading Ken's paper. It is just another
> >> aether theory. You should read my thesis on Ballistic Light. 
> >> http://www.scisite.info/books/bath/bath.html
> >> 
> > 
> > ROTFLOL your claim is laughable.....Your ballistic light theory is
> > just a subset of Model Mechanics’ wave-packet and Einstein’s photon.
> > You have no idea why light comes in the form of ballistic
> > (wave-packet). Model Mechanics explains that a wave-packet is formed
> > due to the absolute motion of the source in the E-Matrix (see page 33
> > of my book).
> 
> You E-matrix is just another version of classical aether. Light is not a
> wave in any bloody E-Matrix. It is particulate and ballistic in empty
> space, ie., in 'nothing'.
> 

No......can’t you read? The E-Matrix is not just another classical aether. It is a unique aether that has the following unique features:
_	It offers a realistic origin of the universe. 
_	It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters. 
_	It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes.
_	It provides a mechanism to unify all the forces of nature. 
_	It can be validated experimentally. 
_	It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT). 
_	It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity
         (DTG)
_	It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity 
         as subsets.
_	It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics.
_	It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force.
_	It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle.
_	It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum 
         experiments. 
-       It explains the structures of atoms

Can your ballistic light explain all these unique properties? Guess not.

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#425398

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-18 08:53 +1000
Message-ID<okjf4p$jlf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#425300
On 18/07/17 00:11, kenseto wrote:
> On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 6:25:58 PM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:

>>>>
>>>> You're wasting your time reading Ken's paper. It is just another
>>>> aether theory. You should read my thesis on Ballistic Light.
>>>> http://www.scisite.info/books/bath/bath.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> ROTFLOL your claim is laughable.....Your ballistic light theory is
>>> just a subset of Model Mechanics’ wave-packet and Einstein’s photon.
>>> You have no idea why light comes in the form of ballistic
>>> (wave-packet). Model Mechanics explains that a wave-packet is formed
>>> due to the absolute motion of the source in the E-Matrix (see page 33
>>> of my book).
>>
>> You E-matrix is just another version of classical aether. Light is not a
>> wave in any bloody E-Matrix. It is particulate and ballistic in empty
>> space, ie., in 'nothing'.
>>
> 
> No......can’t you read? The E-Matrix is not just another classical aether. It is a unique aether that has the following unique features:
> _	It offers a realistic origin of the universe.
> _	It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters.
> _	It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes.
> _	It provides a mechanism to unify all the forces of nature.
> _	It can be validated experimentally.
> _	It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT).
> _	It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity
>           (DTG)
> _	It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity
>           as subsets.

That proves it must be wrong. Both SR and GR are plain bullshit from 
start to finish.

> _	It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics.
> _	It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force.
> _	It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle.
> _	It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum
>           experiments.
> -       It explains the structures of atoms
> 
> Can your ballistic light explain all these unique properties? Guess not.

BaTh deals with light in transit. It is the only theory that does that 
successfully.



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#425454

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-07-18 05:52 -0700
Message-ID<eaea8cf1-5bac-47d9-b79e-af83d8a34cec@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#425398
On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 6:53:18 PM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:
> On 18/07/17 00:11, kenseto wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 6:25:58 PM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:
> 
> >>>>
> >>>> You're wasting your time reading Ken's paper. It is just another
> >>>> aether theory. You should read my thesis on Ballistic Light.
> >>>> http://www.scisite.info/books/bath/bath.html
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ROTFLOL your claim is laughable.....Your ballistic light theory is
> >>> just a subset of Model Mechanics’ wave-packet and Einstein’s photon.
> >>> You have no idea why light comes in the form of ballistic
> >>> (wave-packet). Model Mechanics explains that a wave-packet is formed
> >>> due to the absolute motion of the source in the E-Matrix (see page 33
> >>> of my book).
> >>
> >> You E-matrix is just another version of classical aether. Light is not a
> >> wave in any bloody E-Matrix. It is particulate and ballistic in empty
> >> space, ie., in 'nothing'.
> >>
> > 
> > No......can’t you read? The E-Matrix is not just another classical aether. It is a unique aether that has the following unique features:
> > _	It offers a realistic origin of the universe.
> > _	It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters.
> > _	It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes.
> > _	It provides a mechanism to unify all the forces of nature.
> > _	It can be validated experimentally.
> > _	It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT).
> > _	It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity
> >           (DTG)
> > _	It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity
> >           as subsets.
> 
> That proves it must be wrong. Both SR and GR are plain bullshit from 
> start to finish.

Assertions are not valid argument.

> 
> > _	It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics.
> > _	It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force.
> > _	It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle.
> > _	It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum
> >           experiments.
> > -       It explains the structures of atoms
> > 
> > Can your ballistic light explain all these unique properties? Guess not.
> 
> BaTh deals with light in transit. It is the only theory that does that 
> successfully.

This claim is bogus......Model Mechanics describes the transit of light successfully.

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#425471

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-18 14:50 +0000
Message-ID<okl78b$301$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#425454
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>Assertions are not valid argument.

So why do you repeatedly make these invalid assertions, Stupid Ken?

You assert that it offers a realistic origin of the universe.
You assert that it provides a mechanism to unify all the forces of nature.
You assert that it can be validated experimentally.
You assert that it gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity
You assert that it includes Special Theory of Relativity and General
Theory of Relativity as subsets.

If, as you state, assertions are not valid arguments, why do you make those
assertions, repeatedly?

>> BaTh deals with light in transit. It is the only theory that does that
>> successfully.

>This claim is bogus......Model Mechanics describes the transit of light 
>successfully.

Which kook theory is the bigger failure...DirtyBathWater or Model Mechanics?
Can one or the other be more wrong if they are both completely wrong?
Is either a bigger disaster than the other?
We need a professional kookologist to investigate which is the biggest
failure.

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#425545

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-19 09:48 +1000
Message-ID<okm6nm$vlg$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#425471
On 19/07/17 00:50, Michael Moroney wrote: "My theory about country shit 
houses is the only correct one. It is my only claim to fame".



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#425556

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-19 01:42 +0000
Message-ID<okmder$qt0$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#425545
>>Which kook theory is the bigger failure...DirtyBathWater or Model Mechanics?
>>Can one or the other be more wrong if they are both completely wrong?
>>Is either a bigger disaster than the other?
>>We need a professional kookologist to investigate which is the biggest
>>failure.

"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes:

>On 19/07/17 00:50, Michael Moroney wrote: "My theory about country shit 
>houses is the only correct one. It is my only claim to fame".

What's that, Ralph? You say that your DirtyBaThWater is worthy only of a
country shithouse? Really, Mr. Rabbidge? So your DirtyBaThWater is an
even bigger failure than Ken's failed Model Mechanics? That's a rather
big claim, since it is well known that Model Mechanics is a complete,
total, absolute failure, Ralph.

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#425585

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-19 19:33 +1000
Message-ID<okn916$eeo$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#425556
On 19/07/17 11:42, Michael Moroney wrote "anyone who reads my messages 
is wasting his time".

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#425618

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-19 19:45 +0000
Message-ID<okocti$4s3$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#425585
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes:

>"anyone who reads my messages is wasting his time".

So Ralph, you are now admiting that you are merely a troll, and not
an actual kook who thinks he has found the secrets of the universe
in c+v and DirtyBathWater?  And Ralph, you don't really believe that
you become an outstanding physicist by photoshopping together a
diploma?  All you have been doing is wasting everyone's time, Ralph?

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#425631

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-20 08:14 +1000
Message-ID<okoll1$ui6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#425618
On 20/07/17 05:45, Michael Moroney wrote: "I wish I could be a real 
physicist like Henry Wilson".

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#425662

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-20 08:42 +0000
Message-ID<okpqdq$e71$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#425631
Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge <hgw@....> writes:

> "I wish I could be a real physicist like Henry Wilson".

So Ralph, who is this physicist 'Henry Wilson' that you wish you were
like, Ralph?  Obviously this 'Henry Wilson' physicist never posts here,
since nobody has ever seen any actual physics here by any 'Henry Wilson',
Ralph.  Does this Mr. Wilson know that you are ruining his good name by
posting as him, Ralph?  I doubt he'd appreciate that you drag his name
through the mud by blaming DirtyBaThWater on him, Ralph.  Mr. Wilson
likely does have a reputation to defend, after all, even if he does have
an Irish surname, Ralph.

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#425732

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-21 14:37 +1000
Message-ID<oks0e1$5lr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#425662
On 20/07/17 18:42, Michael Moron-y wrote: "I wish I was clever like 
physicist Henry Wilson but I can't be because I was born plainly stupid. 
All I can do is insult him...but at least he doesn't own a country 
shithouse in N. Ireland like I do".

> 


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#425777

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-21 19:18 +0000
Message-ID<oktk26$uha$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#425732
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes:

>On 20/07/17 18:42, Michael Moron-y wrote: "I wish I was clever like 
>physicist Henry Wilson

So Ralph, who is this "physicist Henry Wilson"? I never heard of him.
It is obvious that "physicist Henry Wilson" never posts here since
there has never been any actual physics posted by anyone calling himself
Henry Wilson, Ralph.

Ralph, does this "physicist Henry Wilson" know you are ruining his
reputation here by pretending to be him, Ralph? Or is "physicist Henry
Wilson" completely ficticious, Ralph?  Perhaps Odd Bodkin is really
named Henry Wilson, Ralph?  We know that Odd Bodkin is a pseudonym and
we don't know what his actual name is.

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