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Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error.

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  Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-09 10:02 +1000
    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 19:02 -0700
      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-07 16:54 -0700
        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 10:03 +1000
          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-09 02:14 +0000
            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Ursler Zilberschlag <ursler@zilbersch.org> - 2017-07-09 09:44 +0000
    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-08 19:14 -0700
      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-08 19:16 -0700
      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-09 12:38 +1000
        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-08 21:09 -0700
          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-09 17:09 +1000
    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-06-08 19:15 -0700
      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-09 12:36 +1000
        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 19:56 -0700
          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Jim Limey <eeug@dnne.ri> - 2017-06-09 15:32 +0000
            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 17:19 -0700
              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Kitubu Nkyaku <akntuu@buwkau.kk> - 2017-06-10 10:46 +0000
                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 10:38 -0700
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Bilového Hlumu <zbuuz@nwtwzwz.lb> - 2017-06-10 18:18 +0000
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Rhett Doucet <ttdh@etoe.ee> - 2017-06-19 13:42 +0000
        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-06-08 21:28 -0700
          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-09 17:06 +1000
            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-06-09 06:25 -0700
              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-09 06:34 -0700
                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 17:20 -0700
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-10 01:43 -0700
              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-10 08:58 +1000
                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-09 16:05 -0700
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-10 20:17 +1000
                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-06-09 17:15 -0700
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 17:41 -0700
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-10 01:44 -0700
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-10 01:45 -0700
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-10 20:44 +1000
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 08:05 -0700
                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-11 05:56 +1000
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 16:18 -0700
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 12:45 -0500
                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-11 05:26 +1000
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 00:44 +0000
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. chanrasjid@gmail.com - 2017-06-23 01:58 -0700
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-23 09:02 -0500
                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. chanrasjid@gmail.com - 2017-06-23 07:46 -0700
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 09:27 +1000
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-25 01:21 +0000
                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 12:43 -0500
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-11 06:08 +1000
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-11 00:49 +0000
            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-09 14:37 +0000
              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-09 08:12 -0700
              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-10 09:03 +1000
                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-10 06:26 +0000
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-10 20:30 +1000
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-10 16:31 +0000
                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-11 06:09 +1000
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-11 01:11 +0000
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-11 14:18 +1000
                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 15:57 -0500
                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-12 01:45 +0200
                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-12 00:22 +0000
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 11:37 +1000
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-12 03:39 +0000
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 20:22 +1000
                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-12 15:38 +0000
                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:45 -0500
                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 05:00 +1000
              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-10 20:28 +1000
                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-10 22:56 -0500
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-11 14:27 +1000
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 11:38 +0000
                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-11 04:42 -0700
                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 05:01 +1000
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-11 16:34 +0200
                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-11 12:57 -0700
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-11 13:03 -0700
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-11 22:41 +0200
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-11 22:40 +0200
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-11 15:30 -0700
                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-12 01:38 +0200
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 10:55 +1000
                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-12 10:45 +0200
                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 20:24 +1000
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 11:01 +0000
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 03:58 +1000
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 18:12 +0000
                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 04:50 +1000
                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 18:55 +0000
                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 05:20 +1000
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:48 -0500
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-13 11:04 +1000
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-13 16:00 +0000
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 15:12 -0500
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-13 16:08 -0500
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Lolek Atoru <oitiruc@rwuca.oa> - 2017-06-13 21:16 +0000
                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-15 17:57 +0200
                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Lolek Atoru <oitiruc@rwuca.oa> - 2017-06-15 16:05 +0000
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-13 21:38 +0000
                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-13 19:14 -0500
                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-14 02:34 +0000
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 02:45 +0000
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-13 23:18 -0500
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-14 17:44 +0000
                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-16 21:06 -0500
                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-20 15:26 +0000
                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-23 09:41 +1000
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-13 21:54 +0000
                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-13 22:46 -0500
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-12 09:28 -0500
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-12 09:28 -0500
                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 04:04 +1000
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-06-12 11:39 -0700
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 18:44 +0000
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:51 -0500
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 05:26 +1000
                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-12 19:51 +0000
                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-13 10:55 +1000
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-13 15:49 +0000
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-14 13:12 +1000
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-14 04:47 +0000
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 11:32 -0500
                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-15 06:09 +1000
                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 02:05 +0000
                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 02:24 +0000
                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 19:41 -0700
                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-15 20:17 +1000
                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 13:14 +0000
                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 15:13 -0500
                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-14 13:14 +1000
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-14 04:52 +0000
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-14 15:44 -0500
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-15 07:37 +1000
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 11:21 -0700
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 15:32 -0700
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-15 09:16 +1000
                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-15 16:12 -0500
                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-16 15:30 +1000
            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-10 00:33 -0500
              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-10 20:36 +1000
    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-06-09 08:28 +0200
    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 07:51 -0500
      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-10 09:14 +1000
        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-10 00:50 -0500
          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-10 17:23 +1000
          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-10 20:58 +1000
            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Kitubu Nkyaku <akntuu@buwkau.kk> - 2017-06-10 11:06 +0000
              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-11 06:18 +1000
        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 12:49 -0500
          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-10 21:13 +0200
            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-10 13:01 -0700
            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-11 06:58 +1000
              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-11 21:53 +0200
                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-11 14:39 -0700
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 11:22 +1000
                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 11:32 +1000
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-11 18:53 -0700
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 20:28 +1000
                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-12 21:51 +0200
                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-14 21:57 +1000
                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-14 22:30 +0200
                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-15 07:31 +1000
                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 16:19 -0700
                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-15 10:39 +1000
                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 18:01 -0700
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. xxein1x1@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 18:54 -0700
                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-15 00:04 -0500
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-15 20:07 +1000
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-15 15:14 +0200
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-16 04:16 +1000
                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-16 09:59 +0200
                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-17 08:40 +1000
                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 11:44 -0500
                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-18 14:30 +0000
                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-22 14:02 +0200
                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 06:21 -0700
                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-27 19:43 +0200
                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-28 09:03 +1000
                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-28 03:47 +0000
                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-28 15:54 +0200
                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-29 09:43 +1000
                                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-29 12:29 +0200
                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-01 09:47 +1000
                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-01 21:10 +0200
                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-02 11:58 +1000
                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-02 03:33 +0000
                                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Buck Millard <uiidbm@apsuw.dl> - 2017-07-02 10:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-02 14:31 +0200
                                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-03 11:34 +1000
                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-03 20:59 +0200
                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-04 09:39 +1000
                                                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-04 15:10 +0200
                                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-05 09:28 +1000
                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 00:04 +0000
                                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-05 12:22 +1000
                                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-04 20:45 -0700
                                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-05 03:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 12:37 -0500
                                                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-06 10:27 +1000
                                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 00:44 +0000
                                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-06 03:03 +0000
                                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 12:38 -0500
                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-05 02:59 +0000
                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-07-04 04:08 +1000
                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-03 22:11 +0200
                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-04 08:32 +1000
                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-04 14:40 +0200
                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-05 09:36 +1000
                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-05 23:10 +0200
                                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-06 10:39 +1000
                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-06 09:47 +0200
                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-06 20:09 +1000
                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-06 14:06 +0000
                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-06 22:20 +0200
                                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-07 09:55 +1000
                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-07 16:16 +0200
                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-08 09:28 +1000
                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-07 15:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-08 09:37 +1000
                                                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-08 07:35 +0000
                                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 10:01 +1000
                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-09 02:12 +0000
                                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Ursler Zilberschlag <ursler@zilbersch.org> - 2017-07-09 09:34 +0000
                                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-09 14:08 +0000
                                                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Ursler Zilberschlag <ursler@zilbersch.org> - 2017-07-09 14:17 +0000
                                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-09 16:53 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Ursler Zilberschlag <ursler@zilbersch.org> - 2017-07-09 17:23 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Ursler Zilberschlag <ursler@zilbersch.org> - 2017-07-09 17:31 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Vern Garriott <verg@entweoe.te> - 2017-07-09 19:44 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-10 02:24 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-11 10:44 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-10 20:09 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-11 19:25 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Laverne Chandler <unvnh@ednawe.ee> - 2017-07-13 13:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-11 14:11 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-11 14:39 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-12 08:16 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-12 03:17 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-11 23:43 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-15 11:04 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-16 03:45 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-16 13:55 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-17 08:42 +1000
                                                                                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-17 14:49 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-18 08:56 +1000
                                                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-18 05:08 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 09:33 +1000
                                                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-18 20:18 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 10:25 +1000
                                                                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-17 08:40 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-17 02:28 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-18 08:58 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-17 09:53 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-18 09:01 +1000
                                                                                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-18 16:25 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-18 15:18 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-18 21:14 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 09:45 +1000
                                                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-19 15:05 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-20 08:51 +1000
                                                                                                            Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-20 22:22 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-21 14:30 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-21 15:04 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-22 08:53 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-22 14:47 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-23 16:51 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-23 14:46 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-24 12:04 +1000
                                                                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Vern Garriott <verg@entweoe.te> - 2017-07-12 17:04 +0000
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:57 -0500
                                  Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 17:56 +0200
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Lolek Atoru <oitiruc@rwuca.oa> - 2017-06-15 16:01 +0000
                                    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-17 08:46 +1000
                                      Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 11:41 -0500
                                Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. Nými Icelulózy <ejienm@wzsfwe.ul> - 2017-06-15 21:59 +0000
          Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-11 06:14 +1000
    Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error. khrapko_ri@hotmail.com - 2017-06-11 05:24 -0700
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#423726

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-01 09:47 +1000
Message-ID<oj6nuj$ke1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423595
On 29/06/17 20:29, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 29.06.2017 01.43, skrev HGW...:
>> On 28/06/17 23:54, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>> Den 28.06.2017 01.03, skrev HGW...:

>>
>> Paul, Did you notice that the selected stars had a wide range of 
>> 'angular distances' from the sun? That is very important and offers a 
>> simple way to fake the results.
> 
> Can you elaborate on that, please?
> Which data are easy to fake, and why are they easy to fake because
> the stars had a wide range of angular distances from the sun?
> 
>> If you knew anything about the deflection of starlight, you would know
>> that most of it occurs when the light is in the vicinity of the sun.
>> Quite likely, light coming from -45 deg might deviate about ten times
>> more than that coming from +45 degree. So it isn't hard to select the
>> right angular distribution of stars that will exaggerate the answer by 
>> the desired factor of 2.
> 
> The angular distribution was: (Sun at 0 degrees)
> degrees
>   40-49      3.8%    16568 stars
>   50-59     12.6%    54936 stars
>   60-69     10.6%    46216 stars
>   70-79     10.8%    47088 stars
>   80-89        9.8%    42728 stars
>   90-99     10.9%    47524 stars
> 100-109     9.8%    42728 stars
> 110-110    10.4%    45344 stars
> 120-129    11.3%    49268 stars
> 130-139     9.4%    40984 stars
> 140-145     0.6%     2616 stars
> 
> 21.6 million measurements were made, which
> on average is about 50 measurements of each star.
> 
> The predictions of the deflection by GR and Newton are:
> Angle from Sun      GR        Newton
>   45 degrees        9.83 mas     4.91 mas
>   90 degrees        4.07 mas     2.04 mas
> 135 degrees        1.69 mas     0.84 mas
> 
> The precision of the measurements was ~= 0.004 mas
> 
> The result of all the measurements was that
> gamma = (0.997+/-0.003)
> 
> Can you please explain why this choice of angular distribution
> make it easy to "exaggerate the answer by the desired factor of 2"?
> 
>> You might have noticed that 'troublesome stars' were omitted from the 
>> analysis. Obviously they were the ones that caused trouble for 
>> Einstein's silly theory.
> 
> And which stars might that be?
> 
> Stars closer to the Sun than 40 degrees were not used
> because the solar corona make the measurements less precise.
> (So Hipparcos probably didn't measure them)

What nonsense! Do you think the corona disappears during an eclipse?
Apparently Eddington and others must have..
You really are funny Paul. The plain fact is, the only reliable 
measurement would have come from stars less than <40 deg. ...and thhese 
would have obviouslty refuted GR.

> Stars further from the Sun than 140 degrees were not used
> because the deflection is so small that the precision is poorer.
> 
>>>> It is typical of the way in which the dingleberry machine has 
>>>> managed to fabricate masses of false support for their favorite god.
>>>>
>>>> The only part that might be worth noting is the paragraph which 
>>>> virtually admits that all the experiments involving solar eclipses 
>>>> did NOT support GR.
>>>
>>> There is no such paragraph.
>>
>> That's what you would like to believe.
> 
> That's what we both know.
> 
>>> Quite the contrary, in fig.3 the result of the eclipse
>>> measurements made 1973 by "Texas Mauritanian Eclipse Team"
>>> is drawn.
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ybm5vlw5
>>> http://tinyurl.com/y8goroaz
>>> gamma = (0.95 ± 0.11)
>>> Poor precision, but not worthless. It falsifies Newton!
> 
> 


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#423765

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2017-07-01 21:10 +0200
Message-ID<oj8s33$a12$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#423726
Den 01.07.2017 01.47, skrev HGW...:
> On 29/06/17 20:29, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> Den 29.06.2017 01.43, skrev HGW...:
>>> On 28/06/17 23:54, Paul B. Andersen wrote >>>> Ralph, the challenge is still to explain in detail which estimates,
>>>> misinterpretations, vagaries and educated guesses is contained
>>>> in the paper:
>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
>>>
>>> Paul, Did you notice that the selected stars had a wide range of 
>>> 'angular distances' from the sun? That is very important and offers a 
>>> simple way to fake the results.
>>
>> Can you elaborate on that, please?
>> Which data are easy to fake, and why are they easy to fake because
>> the stars had a wide range of angular distances from the sun?

No? :-D

>>
>>> If you knew anything about the deflection of starlight, you would know
>>> that most of it occurs when the light is in the vicinity of the sun.
>>> Quite likely, light coming from -45 deg might deviate about ten times
>>> more than that coming from +45 degree. So it isn't hard to select the
>>> right angular distribution of stars that will exaggerate the answer 
>>> by the desired factor of 2.
>>
>> The angular distribution was: (Sun at 0 degrees)
>> degrees
>>   40-49      3.8%    16568 stars
>>   50-59     12.6%    54936 stars
>>   60-69     10.6%    46216 stars
>>   70-79     10.8%    47088 stars
>>   80-89      9.8%    42728 stars
>>   90-99     10.9%    47524 stars
>> 100-109      9.8%    42728 stars
>> 110-110     10.4%    45344 stars
>> 120-129     11.3%    49268 stars
>> 130-139      9.4%    40984 stars
>> 140-145      0.6%     2616 stars
>>
>> 21.6 million measurements were made, which
>> on average is about 50 measurements of each star.
>>
>> The predictions of the deflection by GR and Newton are:
>> Angle from Sun      GR        Newton
>>   45 degrees        9.83 mas     4.91 mas
>>   90 degrees        4.07 mas     2.04 mas
>> 135 degrees        1.69 mas     0.84 mas
>>
>> The precision of the measurements was ~= 0.004 mas
>>
>> The result of all the measurements was that
>> gamma = (0.997+/-0.003)
>>
>> Can you please explain why this choice of angular distribution
>> make it easy to "exaggerate the answer by the desired factor of 2"?

So you can't explain it? :-D

>>
>>> You might have noticed that 'troublesome stars' were omitted from the 
>>> analysis. Obviously they were the ones that caused trouble for 
>>> Einstein's silly theory.
>>
>> And which stars might that be?
>>
>> Stars closer to the Sun than 40 degrees were not used
>> because the solar corona make the measurements less precise.
>> (So Hipparcos probably didn't measure them)
> 
> What nonsense! Do you think the corona disappears during an eclipse? > Apparently Eddington and others must have..
> You really are funny Paul. The plain fact is, the only reliable 
> measurement would have come from stars less than <40 deg. ...and thhese 
> would have obviouslty refuted GR.

Confused, Ralph? :-D

>> Stars further from the Sun than 140 degrees were not used
>> because the deflection is so small that the precision is poorer.

Giving up, Ralph?

So we can conclude that Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge is unable
to point out any misinterpretations, vagaries and educated
guesses in this paper:
https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf

But Ralph's down under upside down logic is indeed funny! :-D
21.6 million measurements of 460 thousand stars are done,
and the stars are distributed from 40 degrees to 140 degrees
from the Sun, and partly because the light from none of these
stars have passed through the solar corona, the precision is
vastly better (gamma = 0.997+/-0.003) than can be achieved
with measurements of stars close to the Sun.

And yet Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge says:
"The plain fact (SIC) is, the only reliable measurement would
  have come from stars less than < 40 deg. ...and these
  would have obviously refuted GR."

But measurements of stars less than 40 deg from the Sun
did not refute GR even if the precision is 37 times poorer
than the Hipparcos measurements:

>>>> Quite the contrary, in fig.3 the result of the eclipse
>>>> measurements made 1973 by "Texas Mauritanian Eclipse Team"
>>>> is drawn.
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ybm5vlw5
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/y8goroaz
>>>> gamma = (0.95 ± 0.11)
>>>> Poor precision, but not worthless. It falsifies Newton!
-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#423784

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-02 11:58 +1000
Message-ID<oj9k10$12j6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423765
On 02/07/17 05:10, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 01.07.2017 01.47, skrev HGW...:

> 
>>>
>>>> If you knew anything about the deflection of starlight, you would know
>>>> that most of it occurs when the light is in the vicinity of the sun.
>>>> Quite likely, light coming from -45 deg might deviate about ten times
>>>> more than that coming from +45 degree. So it isn't hard to select the
>>>> right angular distribution of stars that will exaggerate the answer 
>>>> by the desired factor of 2.
>>>
>>> The angular distribution was: (Sun at 0 degrees)
>>> degrees
>>>   40-49      3.8%    16568 stars
>>>   50-59     12.6%    54936 stars
>>>   60-69     10.6%    46216 stars
>>>   70-79     10.8%    47088 stars
>>>   80-89      9.8%    42728 stars
>>>   90-99     10.9%    47524 stars
>>> 100-109      9.8%    42728 stars
>>> 110-110     10.4%    45344 stars
>>> 120-129     11.3%    49268 stars
>>> 130-139      9.4%    40984 stars
>>> 140-145      0.6%     2616 stars
>>>
>>> 21.6 million measurements were made, which
>>> on average is about 50 measurements of each star.
>>>
>>> The predictions of the deflection by GR and Newton are:
>>> Angle from Sun      GR        Newton
>>>   45 degrees        9.83 mas     4.91 mas
>>>   90 degrees        4.07 mas     2.04 mas
>>> 135 degrees        1.69 mas     0.84 mas
>>>
>>> The precision of the measurements was ~= 0.004 mas
>>>
>>> The result of all the measurements was that
>>> gamma = (0.997+/-0.003)
>>>
>>> Can you please explain why this choice of angular distribution
>>> make it easy to "exaggerate the answer by the desired factor of 2"?
> 
> So you can't explain it? :-D
> 
>>>
>>>> You might have noticed that 'troublesome stars' were omitted from 
>>>> the analysis. Obviously they were the ones that caused trouble for 
>>>> Einstein's silly theory.
>>>
>>> And which stars might that be?
>>>
>>> Stars closer to the Sun than 40 degrees were not used
>>> because the solar corona make the measurements less precise.
>>> (So Hipparcos probably didn't measure them)
>>
>> What nonsense! Do you think the corona disappears during an eclipse? > 
>> Apparently Eddington and others must have..
>> You really are funny Paul. The plain fact is, the only reliable 
>> measurement would have come from stars less than <40 deg. ...and 
>> thhese would have obviouslty refuted GR.
> 
> Confused, Henry? :-D

How bloody far do you think the corona extends?

>>> Stars further from the Sun than 140 degrees were not used
>>> because the deflection is so small that the precision is poorer.
> 
> Giving up, Henry?

Even at 45 deg the deflections are too small to be accurately measured.

> So we can conclude that Henry George Wilson is unable
> to point out any misinterpretations, vagaries and educated
> guesses in this paper:
> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
> 
> But Henry's down under upside down logic is indeed funny! :-D
> 21.6 million measurements of 460 thousand stars are done,
> and the stars are distributed from 40 degrees to 140 degrees
> from the Sun, and partly because the light from none of these
> stars have passed through the solar corona, the precision is
> vastly better (gamma = 0.997+/-0.003) than can be achieved
> with measurements of stars close to the Sun.

I don't believe the experiment was actually performed at all.

> And yet Henry George Wilson says:
> "The plain fact (SIC) is, the only reliable measurement would
>   have come from stars less than < 40 deg. ...and these
>   would have obviously refuted GR."
> 
> But measurements of stars less than 40 deg from the Sun
> did not refute GR even if the precision is 37 times poorer
> than the Hipparcos measurements:
> 
>>>>> Quite the contrary, in fig.3 the result of the eclipse
>>>>> measurements made 1973 by "Texas Mauritanian Eclipse Team"
>>>>> is drawn.
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ybm5vlw5
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/y8goroaz
>>>>> gamma = (0.95 ± 0.11)
>>>>> Poor precision, but not worthless. It falsifies Newton!

Look Paul, this whole experiment is just another hilarious dingleberry 
joke. The Newtonian deflections are considerably smaller than your above 
figures and are impossible to measure accurately even with Hipparcos.

it is typical of an experiment that can be easily manipulated to produce 
just about any desired answer. I'm quite sure that they would have found 
gamma to be 1 even if hte GR prediction was 10 times the claimed one.


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#423786

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-02 03:33 +0000
Message-ID<oj9pif$p7e$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#423784
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes:

>On 02/07/17 05:10, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> Den 01.07.2017 01.47, skrev HGW...:

>>>> Stars further from the Sun than 140 degrees were not used
>>>> because the deflection is so small that the precision is poorer.
>> 
>> Giving up, Ralph?

>Even at 45 deg the deflections are too small to be accurately measured.

No, Ralph, if that were the case, then they would have measured
(gamma+1)=0, or gamma= -1, or no deflection, agreeing with neither
Newton nor GR.

And don't forget, Ralph. Just because you can't figure out how to measure
such small deflections accurately doesn't mean that nobody else can, Ralph.

>I don't believe the experiment was actually performed at all.

The people who actually perform such experiments don't care what you
believe, Ralph.

>I'm quite sure that they would have found 
>gamma to be 1

So you agree with GR after all, Ralph? That's great!

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#423793

FromBuck Millard <uiidbm@apsuw.dl>
Date2017-07-02 10:21 +0000
Message-ID<ojahff$5d0$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423786
W dniu piątek, 30 czerwca 2017 10:52:05 UTC-4 użytkownik Michael Moroney
napisał:

> "HGW..." <hgw@....> writes:
>>>>> Stars further from the Sun than 140 degrees were not used because
>>>>> the deflection is so small that the precision is poorer.
>>> 
>>> Giving up, Ralph?
> 
>>Even at 45 deg the deflections are too small to be accurately measured.
> 
> No, Ralph, if that were the case, then they would have measured
> (gamma+1)=0, or gamma= -1, or no deflection, agreeing with neither
> Newton nor GR.

Nevermind this shit. Answer your own question, morony. Let me requote

>>Morony, what gives your (-6/-2)!

Hello world, the said morony is incapable to answer his own question! He 
is a capitalist.

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#423809

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2017-07-02 14:31 +0200
Message-ID<ojap2o$boe$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#423784
Den 02.07.2017 03.58, skrev HGW...:
>>>On 29/06/17 20:29, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>> >>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> The angular distribution was: (Sun at 0 degrees)
>>>> degrees
>>>>   40-49      3.8%    16568 stars
>>>>   50-59     12.6%    54936 stars
>>>>   60-69     10.6%    46216 stars
>>>>   70-79     10.8%    47088 stars
>>>>   80-89      9.8%    42728 stars
>>>>   90-99     10.9%    47524 stars
>>>> 100-109      9.8%    42728 stars
>>>> 110-110     10.4%    45344 stars
>>>> 120-129     11.3%    49268 stars
>>>> 130-139      9.4%    40984 stars
>>>> 140-145      0.6%     2616 stars
>>>> 
>>>> 21.6 million measurements were made, which
>>>> on average is about 50 measurements of each star.
>>>> 
>>>> The predictions of the deflection by GR and Newton are:
>>>> Angle from Sun      GR        Newton
>>>>   45 degrees        9.83 mas     4.91 mas
>>>>   90 degrees        4.07 mas     2.04 mas
>>>>  135 degrees        1.69 mas     0.84 mas
>>>>
>>>> The precision of the measurements was ~= 0.004 mas
>>>> 
>>>> The result of all the measurements was that
>>>> gamma = (0.997+/-0.003)
> 
> Even at 45 deg the deflections are too small to be accurately measured.
Is too! Is too! :-D

> The Newtonian deflections are considerably smaller than your above 
> figures and are impossible to measure accurately even with Hipparcos.

I challenge you to prove your claim by showing
that the Newtonian predictions are considerably
smaller than my above figures.

(Don't bother, Ralph. Everybody, including you,
  will understand that my figures are correct.)


Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge has convincingly demonstrated
his inability to point out any misinterpretations,
vagaries and educated guesses in this paper:
https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf

I can but admire Ralph's ability to not believe
what he knows is true:

> I don't believe the experiment was actually performed at all.

And with this giant stupidity we close the case.

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#423842

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-03 11:34 +1000
Message-ID<ojc6vh$iod$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423809
On 02/07/17 22:31, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 02.07.2017 03.58, skrev HGW...:
>>>> On 29/06/17 20:29, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>>> >>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> The angular distribution was: (Sun at 0 degrees)
>>>>> degrees
>>>>>   40-49      3.8%    16568 stars
>>>>>   50-59     12.6%    54936 stars
>>>>>   60-69     10.6%    46216 stars
>>>>>   70-79     10.8%    47088 stars
>>>>>   80-89      9.8%    42728 stars
>>>>>   90-99     10.9%    47524 stars
>>>>> 100-109      9.8%    42728 stars
>>>>> 110-110     10.4%    45344 stars
>>>>> 120-129     11.3%    49268 stars
>>>>> 130-139      9.4%    40984 stars
>>>>> 140-145      0.6%     2616 stars
>>>>>
>>>>> 21.6 million measurements were made, which
>>>>> on average is about 50 measurements of each star.
>>>>>
     No magnetic field
     Slow rotating stars

	DC (reconnection) 	AC (waves)


>>>>> The predictions of the deflection by GR and Newton are:
>>>>> Angle from Sun      GR        Newton
>>>>>   45 degrees        9.83 mas     4.91 mas
>>>>>   90 degrees        4.07 mas     2.04 mas
>>>>>  135 degrees        1.69 mas     0.84 mas
>>>>>
>>>>> The precision of the measurements was ~= 0.004 mas
>>>>>
>>>>> The result of all the measurements was that
>>>>> gamma = (0.997+/-0.003)
>>
>> Even at 45 deg the deflections are too small to be accurately measured.
> Is too! Is too! :-D
> 
     No magnetic field
     Slow rotating stars

	DC (reconnection) 	AC (waves)

So all the previous 'GR conformations' about the bending of light by the 
sun are worthless.
Thank you Paul.


>> The Newtonian deflections are considerably smaller than your above 
>> figures and are impossible to measure accurately even with Hipparcos.
> 
> I challenge you to prove your claim by showing
> that the Newtonian predictions are considerably
> smaller than my above figures.
> 
> (Don't bother, Henry. Everybody, including you,
>   will understand that my figures are correct.)
> 
     No magnetic field
     Slow rotating stars

	DC (reconnection) 	AC (waves)


> 

> 
>> I don't believe the experiment was actually performed at all.
> 
> And with this giant stupidity we close the case.

Oh no we wont..You have by now realized your stupidity in believing this 
was a genuine experiment.
Quite obviously stars closer to the sun were deleted because they proved 
GR wrong.

The Newtonian predictions AT THE TELESCOPE are approx:

45 degrees        9.83 mas     3.7 mas
90 degrees        4.07 mas     1.56 mas
135 degrees        1.69 mas     0.61 mas

-- 

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#423883

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2017-07-03 20:59 +0200
Message-ID<oje46t$gp0$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#423842
Den 03.07.2017 03.34, skrev HGW...:
> On 02/07/17 22:31, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> Den 02.07.2017 03.58, skrev HGW...:

https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf

According to equation (1) the predictions of
the deflections by GR and Newton are:

  Angle from Sun      GR             Newton
    45 degrees        9.7896 mas     4.8948 mas
    90 degrees        4.0550 mas     2.0275 mas
   135 degrees        1.6796 mas     0.8398 mas

The angles are obviously as measured "at the telescope".

(Recalculated with better precision)

>>> The Newtonian deflections are considerably smaller than your above 
>>
>> I challenge you to prove your claim by showing
>> that the Newtonian predictions are considerably
>> smaller than my above figures.
>>
> 
> The Newtonian predictions AT THE TELESCOPE are approx: 
> 45 degrees        9.83 mas     3.7 mas
> 90 degrees        4.07 mas     1.56 mas
> 135 degrees        1.69 mas     0.61 mas

I suppose the second row is your calculation of
the Newtonian prediction.

You are bluffing, Ralph.
I accuse you of having pulled these angles out of thin air,
and not calculated anything at all.

Prove me wrong!

----------------------------------

For lurkers:
(Not for you, Ralph. It's simple maths and thus beyond you.)

Equation (1) (with gamma = 1) is:
   delta theta_1 = 2GM/rc^2 X sin(chi)/(1-cos(chi)  (1)
where
G is the gravitational constant,
c is the speed of light,
M   is the mass of the Sun,
r   is the distance from the centre of Sun to the Earth,
chi is the angular distance between the Sun and the star.

delta theta_1 is the deflection angle as measured on the Earth.

The GR equation for the total gravitational deflection by the Sun is:
   theta = 4GM/ro.c^2                                 (2)
where ro is the shortest distance between the light beam and the Sun.
(Note that ro = r.sin(chi) )

Comparing (1) and (2) yields:
delta theta_1 = (4GM/ro.c^2) X (sin^2(chi)/2(1-cos(chi)))

The first term is the total deflection of the beam,
the second term is the reduction of the angle because
at the Earth we are somewhere in the bend.

Angle    Total_deflection  Reduction    deflection from Earth
  45 deg    11.4693 mas      0.8536 mas    9.7896 mas
  90 deg     8.1100 mas      0.5000 mas    4.0550 mas
135 deg    11.4693 mas      0.1464 mas    1.6796 mas

The 90 degrees can be used as a sanity check.
Since we are in the middle of the bend, we will see
half of the total deflection.

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#423908

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-04 09:39 +1000
Message-ID<ojekjo$61h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423883
On 04/07/17 04:59, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 03.07.2017 03.34, skrev HGW...:
>> On 02/07/17 22:31, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>> Den 02.07.2017 03.58, skrev HGW...:
> 
> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
> 
> According to equation (1) the predictions of
> the deflections by GR and Newton are:
> 
>   Angle from Sun      GR             Newton
>     45 degrees        9.7896 mas     4.8948 mas
>     90 degrees        4.0550 mas     2.0275 mas
>    135 degrees        1.6796 mas     0.8398 mas
> 

> 
> I suppose the second row is your calculation of
> the Newtonian prediction.
> 
> You are bluffing, Henry.
> I accuse you of having pulled these angles out of thin air,
> and not calculated anything at all.

The numbers were produced by direct iteration of Newton's equation. They 
were wrong because I had set the number of iterations too low. I 
realized the mistake soon after but didn't have time to post the 
corrections.

> Prove me wrong!

You were right on this occasion...a very rare event...
I accept the fact that I made a temporary mistake...which is something 
the dingleberry cannot do.

> > ----------------------------------

My corrected predictions are
4.89
2.04
0.839

...But this is of little importance in light of my other revelation....
-- 

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#423928

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2017-07-04 15:10 +0200
Message-ID<ojg43u$dmf$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#423908
Den 04.07.2017 01.39, skrev HGW...:
> On 04/07/17 04:59, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> Den 03.07.2017 03.34, skrev HGW...: 
>>
>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
>>
>> According to equation (1) the predictions of
>> the deflections by GR and Newton are:
>>
>>   Angle from Sun      GR             Newton
>>     45 degrees        9.7896 mas     4.8948 mas
>>     90 degrees        4.0550 mas     2.0275 mas
>>    135 degrees        1.6796 mas     0.8398 mas
>>
>>> The Newtonian predictions AT THE TELESCOPE are approx: 
>>> 45 degrees        9.83 mas     3.7 mas
>>> 90 degrees        4.07 mas     1.56 mas
>>> 135 degrees       1.69 mas     0.61 mas
>> 
>> I suppose the second column is your calculation of
>> the Newtonian prediction.
>> 
>> You are bluffing, Ralph.
>> I accuse you of having pulled these angles out of thin air,
>> and not calculated anything at all.
>> 
>> Prove me wrong!
> 
> You were right on this occasion...a very rare event...
> I accept the fact that I made a temporary mistake...which is something 
> the dingleberry cannot do.

A temporary mistake?
When will your mistake cease to be a mistake? :-D

> 
> My corrected predictions are
> 4.89
> 2.04
> 0.839

Quite.
And the measured deflections are:
  45 degrees        9.7896 mas
  90 degrees        4.0550 mas
135 degrees        1.6796 mas

Newton falsified!

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#423960

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-05 09:28 +1000
Message-ID<ojh8au$2iq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423928
On 04/07/17 23:10, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 04.07.2017 01.39, skrev HGW...:

>>>
>>> I suppose the second column is your calculation of
>>> the Newtonian prediction.
>>>
>>> You are bluffing, Ralph.
>>> I accuse you of having pulled these angles out of thin air,
>>> and not calculated anything at all.
>>>
>>> Prove me wrong!
>>
>> You were right on this occasion...a very rare event...
>> I accept the fact that I made a temporary mistake...which is something 
>> the dingleberry cannot do.
> 
> A temporary mistake?
> When will your mistake cease to be a mistake? :-D

I always double check my figures....and I soon realized the mistake. It 
was a simple computing error.

>> My corrected predictions are
>> 4.89
>> 2.04
>> 0.839
> 
> Quite.
> And the measured deflections are:
>   45 degrees        9.7896 mas
>   90 degrees        4.0550 mas
> 135 degrees        1.6796 mas
> 
> Newton falsified!

Newton will never be falsified by fake experiments.


-- 

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#423962

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-05 00:04 +0000
Message-ID<ojhadl$4uk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423960
HGW... <hgw@....> wrote:
> On 04/07/17 23:10, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

>> Newton falsified!
> 
> Newton will never be falsified by fake experiments.
> 
> 

Ah, a Newton worshipper. I recognize you by your staunch faith and distrust
of scientific evidence. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#423968

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-05 12:22 +1000
Message-ID<ojhiga$e5b$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423962
On 05/07/17 10:04, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> HGW... <hgw@....> wrote:
>> On 04/07/17 23:10, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> 
>>> Newton falsified!
>>
>> Newton will never be falsified by fake experiments.
>>
>>
> 
> Ah, a Newton worshipper. I recognize you by your staunch faith and distrust
> of scientific evidence.

Bodkin, the scientific evidence in which I have the most faith comes 
from variable star research which clearly shows that light speed is 
source dependent.



-- 

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#423973

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2017-07-04 20:45 -0700
Message-ID<c4cb8b41-630e-4ec6-8681-4eccd75d2f09@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#423968
On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 8:22:09 PM UTC-6, HGW... wrote:
>
> Bodkin, the scientific evidence in which I have the most faith comes 
> from variable star research which clearly shows that light speed is 
> source dependent.

Hahahahaha!  Ralphie-boy is a cretin.

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#423974

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-05 03:57 +0000
Message-ID<ojho3e$vc8$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#423968
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes:

>On 05/07/17 10:04, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Ah, a Newton worshipper. I recognize you by your staunch faith and distrust
>> of scientific evidence.

>Bodkin, the scientific evidence in which I have the most faith comes 
>from variable star research which clearly shows that light speed is 
constant c, since we don't ever see the bizarre light curves from binary
stars that source dependent light speed would produce.  Never. Ever.

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#424028

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-05 12:37 -0500
Message-ID<ojj84h$10tp$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423968
On 7/4/17 9:22 PM, HGW... wrote:
> On 05/07/17 10:04, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> HGW... <hgw@....> wrote:
>>> On 04/07/17 23:10, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>>>> Newton falsified!
>>>
>>> Newton will never be falsified by fake experiments.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ah, a Newton worshipper. I recognize you by your staunch faith and 
>> distrust
>> of scientific evidence.
> 
> Bodkin, the scientific evidence in which I have the most faith comes 
> from variable star research which clearly shows that light speed is 
> source dependent.

My point exactly. You like YOUR so-called evidence and you distrust 
scientific evidence.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#424074

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-06 10:27 +1000
Message-ID<ojk059$7c2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#424028
On 06/07/17 03:37, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/4/17 9:22 PM, HGW... wrote:

>>>> Newton will never be falsified by fake experiments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, a Newton worshipper. I recognize you by your staunch faith and 
>>> distrust
>>> of scientific evidence.
>>
>> Bodkin, the scientific evidence in which I have the most faith comes 
>> from variable star research which clearly shows that light speed is 
>> source dependent.
> 
> My point exactly. You like YOUR so-called evidence and you distrust 
> scientific evidence.

I suppose you would class Paul Andersen's fairy tales as 'scientific 
evidence', would you?



-- 

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#424076

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-06 00:44 +0000
Message-ID<ojk163$8gg$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#424074
HGW... <hgw@....> wrote:
> On 06/07/17 03:37, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/4/17 9:22 PM, HGW... wrote:
> 
>>>>> Newton will never be falsified by fake experiments.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, a Newton worshipper. I recognize you by your staunch faith and 
>>>> distrust
>>>> of scientific evidence.
>>> 
>>> Bodkin, the scientific evidence in which I have the most faith comes 
>>> from variable star research which clearly shows that light speed is 
>>> source dependent.
>> 
>> My point exactly. You like YOUR so-called evidence and you distrust 
>> scientific evidence.
> 
> I suppose you would class Paul Andersen's fairy tales as 'scientific 
> evidence', would you?
> 
> 
> 

I look outside of the newsgroup. [gasp!]

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#424080

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-06 03:03 +0000
Message-ID<ojk99r$v4p$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#424074
"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes:

>On 06/07/17 03:37, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/4/17 9:22 PM, HGW... wrote:

>>>> Ah, a Newton worshipper. I recognize you by your staunch faith and 
>>>> distrust
>>>> of scientific evidence.
>>>
>>> Bodkin, the scientific evidence in which I have the most faith comes 
>>> from variable star research which clearly shows that light speed is 
>>> source dependent.
>> 
>> My point exactly. You like YOUR so-called evidence and you distrust 
>> scientific evidence.

>I suppose you would class Paul Andersen's fairy tales as 'scientific 
>evidence', would you?

Ralph, you prove Odd's point again! You like YOUR so-called evidence but
you don't even read all the scientific evidence Paul tries to get you
to read.  You call the evidence "fairy tales" without even knowing what
it says, other than they support relativity and disprove DirtyBaThWater.
Thanks again for proving Odd's point, Ralph!!

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#424029

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-05 12:38 -0500
Message-ID<ojj87a$10tp$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#423968
On 7/4/17 9:22 PM, HGW... wrote:
> On 05/07/17 10:04, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> HGW... <hgw@....> wrote:
>>> On 04/07/17 23:10, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>>>> Newton falsified!
>>>
>>> Newton will never be falsified by fake experiments.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ah, a Newton worshipper. I recognize you by your staunch faith and 
>> distrust
>> of scientific evidence.
> 
> Bodkin, the scientific evidence in which I have the most faith comes 
> from variable star research which clearly shows that light speed is 
> source dependent.
> 

Just like creationists, who have faith in the experimental evidence of 
the complexity of the eye which "clearly shows" intelligent design, and 
they completely distrust the other evidence in favor of evolution.

Hmmm.....


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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