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| Started by | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| First post | 2017-04-02 09:11 +1000 |
| Last post | 2017-04-25 08:59 +1000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 554 — 39 participants |
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A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-02 09:11 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 00:46 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-03 12:07 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-02 10:14 +0200
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-02 12:55 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-03 12:02 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-03 10:04 +0200
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-03 14:36 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-03 08:47 -0700
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-03 12:44 -0700
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 15:28 -0500
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-03 22:09 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-03 23:11 -0700
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-03 22:04 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-03 17:12 -0500
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-04-03 16:44 -0700
non-coordinate basis (was: Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries.) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-04 21:28 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-05 20:54 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 08:38 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 09:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 18:56 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 21:57 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 08:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-10 11:48 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 08:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 07:51 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:35 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 17:46 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:39 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:30 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 09:38 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 02:05 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:56 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-16 08:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-16 09:49 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:22 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-17 11:07 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 08:55 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-18 10:22 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:28 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-19 09:51 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:39 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 17:24 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 05:05 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:43 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 20:19 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:57 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-23 21:20 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 18:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 05:31 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-24 05:58 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 08:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 06:01 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 17:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:30 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:13 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 21:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:14 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 01:23 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-29 08:54 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 14:00 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 09:34 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:55 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:58 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:33 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:59 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:12 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:25 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-04 11:40 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:41 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:05 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 14:03 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:03 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 08:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:00 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 15:20 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 23:09 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 15:59 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 09:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 08:01 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:01 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:02 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 11:02 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-11 19:58 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-11 19:25 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 11:31 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-11 18:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-13 07:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 16:56 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-13 09:47 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:29 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:43 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-13 02:39 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:32 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 00:13 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-16 19:51 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 05:34 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 20:39 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:32 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:33 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-26 15:23 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-27 09:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-27 13:44 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:32 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-19 15:30 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:27 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:07 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 21:22 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Heki Entouba <buububu@enou3eh.ac> - 2017-04-13 20:34 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 10:42 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:34 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:53 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:39 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 17:06 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 15:28 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 15:31 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:56 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 23:26 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:47 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-14 03:55 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:38 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 10:57 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:08 +0000
"How nature works" vs model making Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 21:58 -0500
Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-26 22:48 -0700
Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 14:18 +0100
Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 06:40 -0700
Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 20:49 +0100
Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 14:55 -0700
Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-29 21:42 +0100
Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:28 +0100
Re: "How nature works" vs model making Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:59 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:07 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 14:01 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 19:25 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 20:01 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 18:07 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-20 14:09 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-21 14:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 21:39 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 23:43 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 22:03 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-22 01:08 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 15:42 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 18:37 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:35 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 20:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:38 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 08:33 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 09:21 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 18:45 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 05:52 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:06 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 06:21 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:33 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 09:05 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 07:27 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-07 06:32 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 09:06 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-07 20:28 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:17 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-08 20:19 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:37 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 09:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 18:12 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 10:13 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 19:44 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:23 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-09 01:35 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 11:04 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 13:39 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Kimberli Mafalda Rotenberry <uetbbe@werrirroeb.ie> - 2017-04-09 19:19 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:39 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:09 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Jolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou> - 2017-04-10 17:03 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 08:55 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Jolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou> - 2017-04-11 11:23 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:46 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:11 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-10 06:18 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 09:03 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 07:59 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:06 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 15:41 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 17:45 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:40 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:00 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-14 01:45 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-14 16:19 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-14 12:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 12:36 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 07:27 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:13 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 18:53 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:38 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 10:44 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 12:31 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:16 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:30 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:33 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:42 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 12:36 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 17:15 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 21:44 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-12 20:16 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:20 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:28 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:11 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-16 18:24 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:34 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 20:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:22 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-19 15:35 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:58 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 06:06 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:44 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:43 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 21:28 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis physics.interuptus@gmail.com - 2017-04-20 14:00 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:45 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 13:33 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:50 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:12 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 08:42 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 09:07 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 17:18 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 10:54 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 18:36 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 15:44 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 10:36 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 04:21 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-12 04:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:37 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 00:35 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 09:40 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 15:27 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 06:32 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 09:12 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 20:59 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:06 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:06 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:57 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 23:12 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 11:36 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 13:33 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-15 12:10 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 14:14 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Iwakitok Yuu <yauuu@ikwuo.wk> - 2017-04-15 12:58 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:22 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 08:17 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:48 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:18 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:10 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:10 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:41 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:40 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:30 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:33 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 10:59 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-16 02:35 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 14:39 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:41 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:14 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-17 05:55 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:13 +0100
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Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:49 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-18 06:25 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:25 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:06 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 15:24 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:57 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 18:13 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:50 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-19 04:20 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:14 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:55 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:37 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 00:55 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:20 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:31 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 22:02 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-19 17:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 10:01 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 17:32 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-21 10:43 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 11:13 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:30 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:19 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:47 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:30 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:07 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-27 09:26 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:22 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:21 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:27 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:41 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:46 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 13:16 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-29 21:49 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 22:58 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-30 10:23 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 08:37 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 17:45 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 13:29 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 21:31 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:09 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:42 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:23 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:47 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:42 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 20:38 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 07:49 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 18:58 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:25 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:37 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-10 21:17 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-10 20:44 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-06 08:59 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:51 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 11:47 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 00:40 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 03:17 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 10:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:56 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:56 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:22 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 12:09 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:43 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 11:00 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 21:03 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 12:13 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-08 06:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:23 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-09 11:14 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 04:28 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-08 09:40 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:56 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-10 17:59 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:08 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:39 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 17:50 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:23 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:47 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 11:23 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 10:23 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-13 19:43 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-10 20:50 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:26 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 18:12 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-11 10:56 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:46 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 20:02 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:55 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-14 10:29 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-14 20:16 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-15 13:42 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-16 20:06 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:31 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-17 08:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 02:38 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:28 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:51 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-18 17:39 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-19 09:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:16 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 04:05 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 21:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 05:26 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-17 05:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:17 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:03 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:00 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:07 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:38 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:37 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:49 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:02 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:01 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-30 11:28 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 16:04 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:52 -0500
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Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:36 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:33 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 10:02 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-30 20:20 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:21 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 04:42 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 14:04 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 20:57 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:36 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:32 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 18:20 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:10 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:18 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 21:10 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:51 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:52 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:12 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-03 04:16 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:36 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:16 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:43 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:18 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:24 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:22 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 04:30 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:41 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 19:14 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:39 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:29 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:09 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:19 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:07 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:30 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 01:39 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-29 08:52 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 16:11 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:31 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:48 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:27 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 17:54 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:56 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:54 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:54 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:55 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:14 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:23 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:13 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:38 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:39 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:27 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 09:11 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:00 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:57 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:17 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 07:45 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-09 09:47 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 08:45 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 17:53 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:22 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:28 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:31 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:49 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 17:13 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:55 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:48 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:19 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 18:34 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:25 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:17 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:32 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:31 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:26 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-18 23:02 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 11:13 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:49 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:49 +0200
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-16 11:24 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 18:46 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Okoto Laki <tuuuknu@wnoowow.to> - 2017-04-16 18:16 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:09 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:48 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-13 13:55 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:46 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 11:08 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 18:49 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:15 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-16 18:30 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:24 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 17:34 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:51 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:48 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-16 11:09 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 18:48 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis Okoto Laki <tuuuknu@wnoowow.to> - 2017-04-16 18:40 +0000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 18:56 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 18:59 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:16 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-11 20:35 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 09:09 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-12 18:26 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 18:46 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 05:05 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 05:26 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 20:36 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-13 19:09 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 23:35 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 10:43 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-14 03:29 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-21 18:59 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 11:17 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 11:10 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 22:08 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:18 +1000
Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-09 09:28 +0100
Re: non-coordinate basis sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-04-06 12:57 -0700
Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:09 -0500
Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 22:25 -0500
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-04 14:23 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-04 15:38 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-05 19:58 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-05 14:55 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 08:45 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 22:37 -0500
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:37 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-22 20:29 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-22 04:58 -0700
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 10:10 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-23 10:14 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:51 +1000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-24 14:50 +0000
Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 08:59 +1000
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| From | "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-05-05 21:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <d_CdnXqPtaN2RJHEnZ2dnUU7-bHNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #418104 |
"Odd Bodkin" wrote in message news:oeftuf$19fi$1@gioia.aioe.org... On 5/4/17 1:05 PM, Kevin Aylward wrote: > "Odd Bodkin" wrote in message news:oedlck$1dpn$3@gioia.aioe.org... > > On 5/3/17 5:12 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: >> On 04/05/17 03:59, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>> On 5/2/17 7:33 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: >> >>>>>> Plenty. >>>>> >>>>> Such as? >>>> >>>> I can make more than wooden toys and tables. >>> >>> So can a landscaper. Doesn't make him a qualified scientist. >>> >>> By what standard are you a qualified scientist? >> >> Well it is really none of your business but just to shut you up: Bachelor >> of science, Diploma of Applied Physics....plus several other small >> things. > >>> Neither of these serve as qualifications for being a scientist. >>> Maybe a technician.... > >> Ahmmmmm..... > >> Sure, it is unlikely, but a scientist is "someone that does science", >> er... however badly :-) >I'm not sure I agree. There are too many people who are self-declared >scientists who actually know nothing about doing science. A scientist might >be more appropriately said to be "someone who other scientists agree is >doing science". Well, an issue with that view, is that it goes against a tenant of logical fallacy. Argument from authority. I do agree that the far majority of non PhDs are not scientists, despite such a qualification is not a god given requirement. I am certainly not a scientist, but I do do science occasionally. One thing I do know from spending 9 hours a day on weekends doing MS GR homework 30 years ago, is that physics is really, really hard, that's why I'm and engineer. Its hard to define science from engineering. Most physicists, I understand, like 90% of them, are involved in semiconductor physics, like, that's where there jobs are, in engineering, its where companies make the most money that enables them to pay the physicists. -- Kevin Aylward http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-05 15:20 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <oeimqo$1plk$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #418277 |
On 5/5/17 3:00 PM, Kevin Aylward wrote: > "Odd Bodkin" wrote in message news:oeftuf$19fi$1@gioia.aioe.org... > > On 5/4/17 1:05 PM, Kevin Aylward wrote: >> "Odd Bodkin" wrote in message news:oedlck$1dpn$3@gioia.aioe.org... >> >> On 5/3/17 5:12 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: >>> On 04/05/17 03:59, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> On 5/2/17 7:33 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Plenty. >>>>>> >>>>>> Such as? >>>>> >>>>> I can make more than wooden toys and tables. >>>> >>>> So can a landscaper. Doesn't make him a qualified scientist. >>>> >>>> By what standard are you a qualified scientist? >>> >>> Well it is really none of your business but just to shut you up: >>> Bachelor of science, Diploma of Applied Physics....plus several other >>> small things. >> >>>> Neither of these serve as qualifications for being a scientist. >>>> Maybe a technician.... >> >>> Ahmmmmm..... >> >>> Sure, it is unlikely, but a scientist is "someone that does science", >>> er... however badly :-) > >> I'm not sure I agree. There are too many people who are self-declared >> scientists who actually know nothing about doing science. A scientist >> might be more appropriately said to be "someone who other scientists >> agree is doing science". > > Well, an issue with that view, is that it goes against a tenant of > logical fallacy. Argument from authority. I do agree that the far > majority of non PhDs are not scientists, despite such a qualification is > not a god given requirement. I still think that self-qualification is a dangerous game. Despite your objection about a logical fallacy, this isn't really about argument. It's about recognized qualifications. Engineers need a license; there is a licensing board that decides whether someone can call himself an engineer; this does not really commit any logical fallacy. > > I am certainly not a scientist, but I do do science occasionally. One > thing I do know from spending 9 hours a day on weekends doing MS GR > homework 30 years ago, is that physics is really, really hard, that's > why I'm and engineer. I think you made a careful distinction between doing science and being a scientist. Note that attempting to do science does not represent a qualification for being recognized as a scientist. > > Its hard to define science from engineering. Most physicists, I > understand, like 90% of them, are involved in semiconductor physics, > like, that's where there jobs are, in engineering, its where companies > make the most money that enables them to pay the physicists. That's true, there are a lot of physicists who are in the more applied areas. I don't think it's 90% but it's up there. > > > -- Kevin Aylward > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-05-05 23:09 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <RZGdnX4gL760ZZHEnZ2dnUU7-L3NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #418283 |
"Odd Bodkin" wrote in message news:oeimqo$1plk$1@gioia.aioe.org... > >> Its hard to define science from engineering. Most physicists, I >> understand, like 90% of them, are involved in semiconductor physics, >> like, that's where there jobs are, in engineering, its where companies >> make the most money that enables them to pay the physicists. >That's true, there are a lot of physicists who are in the more applied >areas. I don't think it's 90% but it's up there. I did have a stint back in the 1990s as an analog engineer at the SuperConducting Supercollider, but we all know where that science project and jobs went... -- Kevin Aylward http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html
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| From | Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> |
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| Date | 2017-05-05 15:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <1246418b-2f2a-4814-928f-90a90c474945@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #418305 |
El viernes, 5 de mayo de 2017, 19:09:51 (UTC-3), Kevin Aylward escribió: > "Odd Bodkin" wrote in message news:oeimqo$1plk$1@gioia.aioe.org... > > > > >> Its hard to define science from engineering. Most physicists, I > >> understand, like 90% of them, are involved in semiconductor physics, > >> like, that's where there jobs are, in engineering, its where companies > >> make the most money that enables them to pay the physicists. > > >That's true, there are a lot of physicists who are in the more applied > >areas. I don't think it's 90% but it's up there. > > I did have a stint back in the 1990s as an analog engineer at the > SuperConducting Supercollider, but we all know where that science project > and jobs went... > > -- Kevin Aylward > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html Physicists and engineers do work together and they need each other. In my department, electrical engineers do collaborate with physicians, biologists, mathematicians, geologists and physicists in several projects such as magnetic resonance imaging, detector for the International Linear Collider project, etc.
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-05-06 09:10 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <oej0o7$b04$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #418305 |
On 06/05/17 08:09, Kevin Aylward wrote: > "Odd Bodkin" wrote in message news:oeimqo$1plk$1@gioia.aioe.org... > >> >>> Its hard to define science from engineering. Most physicists, I >>> understand, like 90% of them, are involved in semiconductor physics, >>> like, that's where there jobs are, in engineering, its where >>> companies make the most money that enables them to pay the physicists. > >> That's true, there are a lot of physicists who are in the more applied >> areas. I don't think it's 90% but it's up there. > > I did have a stint back in the 1990s as an analog engineer at the > SuperConducting Supercollider, but we all know where that science > project and jobs went... In my time,PhD's were no more sought after or useful than those with BSc's. Anyone with influential parent can get a PhD just for snob value. Once enrolled, they are almost certain to pass...and they end up specialists in one field. The history of physics is noted for its applied research rather than theoretical. Most physicists work in applied fields. Mathematical physics has no value any more and is not producing anything. Renewable energy will soon provide a lot of employment for applied physicists....but that is technology. --
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| From | "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-05-06 08:01 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <3oudnaYU05Aj6ZDEnZ2dnUU7-LfNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #418331 |
>"HGW... DSc." wrote in message news:oej0o7$b04$1@gioia.aioe.org... >On 06/05/17 08:09, Kevin Aylward wrote: >> "Odd Bodkin" wrote in message news:oeimqo$1plk$1@gioia.aioe.org... > >> >>>> Its hard to define science from engineering. Most physicists, I >>>> understand, like 90% of them, are involved in semiconductor physics, >>>> like, that's where there jobs are, in engineering, its where >>>> companies make the most money that enables them to pay the physicists. > >>> That's true, there are a lot of physicists who are in the more applied >>> areas. I don't think it's 90% but it's up there. > >> I did have a stint back in the 1990s as an analog engineer at the >> SuperConducting Supercollider, but we all know where that science >> project and jobs went... >In my time,PhD's were no more sought after or useful than those with BSc's. >Anyone with influential parent can get a PhD just for snob value. Once >enrolled, they are almost certain to pass...and they end up specialists in >one field. The history of physics is noted for its applied research rather >than theoretical. >Most physicists work in applied fields. Mathematical physics has no value >any more and is not producing anything. Renewable energy will soon provide >a lot of employment for applied physicists....but that is technology. I take the view that here is enough basic physics to keep engineers occupied for a 1000 years. -- Kevin Aylward http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-06 06:01 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <oekaf3$1vsl$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #418331 |
On 5/5/17 6:10 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: > In my time,PhD's were no more sought after or useful than those with BSc's. For what kind of work? For some kinds of work, a PhD is a firm requirement. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-06 06:02 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <oekafv$1vsl$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #418331 |
On 5/5/17 6:10 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: > The history of physics is noted for its applied research rather than > theoretical. Delusion much? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-11 11:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <c83ed710-e7fc-428b-94b4-0aa8cbe1e1ce@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #418277 |
On May 5, Kevin Aylward wrote: > One thing I do know from spending 9 hours a day on weekends doing > MS GR homework 30 years ago, is that physics is really, really hard, > that's why I'm and engineer. How did your supervisor react, when you requested a tuition refund, and the transcript said General Relativity? -- Rich
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| From | "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-05-11 19:58 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <78OdnU1FpvnUKYnEnZ2dnUU7-N_NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #419150 |
>"RichD" wrote in message >news:c83ed710-e7fc-428b-94b4-0aa8cbe1e1ce@googlegroups.com... On May 5, Kevin Aylward wrote: >> One thing I do know from spending 9 hours a day on weekends doing >> MS GR homework 30 years ago, is that physics is really, really hard, >> that's why I'm and engineer. >How did your supervisor react, when you requested a tuition >refund, and the transcript said General Relativity? No problem. The companies paid for it all. So long as it wasn't basket weaving, it was ok. My first two M.S. classes, GR and Advan Dyn were with an electronics company, my other 4, QM, Stat Mech, E&M and Math Meth were when I was at the SuperConducting Supercollider. An EE doing physics at the SSC could hardly be a problem :-) -- Kevin Aylward http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html
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| From | Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> |
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| Date | 2017-05-11 19:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <of2dr9$199a$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #419165 |
Kevin Aylward wrote: > My first two M.S. classes, GR and Advan Dyn were with an electronics Another half-engineer almost professionally.
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 11:31 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <of339o$bpv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #419169 |
On 12/05/17 05:25, Jean-Pierre Framboise wrote: > Kevin Aylward wrote: > >> My first two M.S. classes, GR and Advan Dyn were with an electronics Learning GR was a total waste of time. You might as well learn why 2+2 = 5....Physics was much easier when it was logically correct. Any person who makes sense of the fallacious bullshit that followed Einstein must be insane. > Another half-engineer almost professionally. > --
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-05-11 18:56 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <459b197e-6783-46ff-b423-0b6af4578a4d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #419197 |
On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 6:31:41 PM UTC-7, HGW... DSc. wrote: > On 12/05/17 05:25, Jean-Pierre Framboise wrote: > > Kevin Aylward wrote: > > > >> My first two M.S. classes, GR and Advan Dyn were with an electronics > > Learning GR was a total waste of time. You might as well learn why 2+2 = > 5....Physics was much easier when it was logically correct. Any person > who makes sense of the fallacious bullshit that followed Einstein must > be insane. > > > Another half-engineer almost professionally. > > > > > -- Just because *you* don't understand it... well... you know this old saw as well as anyone else does. You should simply not speak about that which you do not understand, it only goes to put you in a VERY bad light, one where all of your inadequacies become blindingly evident.
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-05-13 07:50 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <of5an3$1sme$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #419198 |
On 12/05/17 11:56, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 6:31:41 PM UTC-7, HGW... DSc. wrote: >> >> Learning GR was a total waste of time. You might as well learn why >> 2+2 = 5....Physics was much easier when it was logically correct. >> Any person who makes sense of the fallacious bullshit that followed >> Einstein must be insane. >> >>> Another half-engineer almost professionally. >>> >> >> >> -- > > Just because *you* don't understand it... well... you know this old > saw as well as anyone else does. > > You should simply not speak about that which you do not understand, > it only goes to put you in a VERY bad light, one where all of your > inadequacies become blindingly evident. I would not waste my time trying to understand pure bullshit....only a complete idiot would. --
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 16:56 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <of5b2d$1svi$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #419260 |
On 5/12/17 4:50 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: > I would not waste my time trying to understand pure bullshit....only a > complete idiot would. Normal people, when they run into something they do not understand, might say, "I'm not really interested in spending the effort to understand it. It may be right, I don't know. And I won't know, because I don't understand it." But then again, there are people with personal difficulties who say things like, "I don't understand it, and therefore it must be bullshit. And as a result, there is no point in my trying to understand it. Everything that is worth knowing, I understand already." It's a pity you have not grappled with your personal difficulties, Ralph. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-05-13 09:47 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <of5hhs$674$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #419262 |
On 13/05/17 07:56, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 5/12/17 4:50 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: >> I would not waste my time trying to understand pure bullshit....only a >> complete idiot would. > > Normal people, when they run into something they do not understand, > might say, "I'm not really interested in spending the effort to > understand it. It may be right, I don't know. And I won't know, because > I don't understand it." GR is based on two incorrect assumptions, (1) that light speed is constant and (2) that time is affected by motion. So why the hell would anyone want to look at it twice? > But then again, there are people with personal difficulties who say > things like, "I don't understand it, and therefore it must be bullshit. > And as a result, there is no point in my trying to understand it. > Everything that is worth knowing, I understand already." > > It's a pity you have not grappled with your personal difficulties, Henry. I prefer to move on while the rest of the Physics world stagnates. --
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| From | "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-05-13 11:29 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <eu-dnUF5gcFqQovEnZ2dnUU7-anNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #419275 |
"HGW... DSc." wrote in message news:of5hhs$674$1@gioia.aioe.org... On 13/05/17 07:56, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 5/12/17 4:50 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: >> I would not waste my time trying to understand pure bullshit....only a >> complete idiot would. > >> Normal people, when they run into something they do not understand, >> might say, "I'm not really interested in spending the effort to >> understand it. It may be right, I don't know. And I won't know, because >> I don't understand it." >GR is based on two incorrect assumptions, (1) that light speed is constant >and (2) that time is affected by motion. So why the hell would anyone want >to look at it twice? It isn't. GR is really based on the one assumption that Tuv=Guv, where the usual other incidental assumptions that tag along are not important enough to matter, despite many claims to the contrary. Tuv is the stress-energy tensor, and Guv is a sum of contracted Riemann tensors. The Riemann tensor is a measure of acceleration of geodesics. http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/riemann/riemann.html http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/stressenergy/stressenergy.html http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/einstien/einstien.html -- Kevin Aylward http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-05-14 07:43 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <of7umi$1hkf$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #419305 |
On 13/05/17 20:29, Kevin Aylward wrote: > "HGW... DSc." wrote in message news:of5hhs$674$1@gioia.aioe.org... > >> GR is based on two incorrect assumptions, (1) that light speed is >> constant and (2) that time is affected by motion. So why the hell >> would anyone want to look at it twice? > > It isn't. > > GR is really based on the one assumption that Tuv=Guv, where the usual > other incidental assumptions that tag along are not important enough to > matter, despite many claims to the contrary. > > Tuv is the stress-energy tensor, and Guv is a sum of contracted Riemann > tensors. The Riemann tensor is a measure of acceleration of geodesics. Expressing the mistakes in 4D might make you appear clever but it doesn't change the fact that is is all based on wrong 3D assumptions. > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/riemann/riemann.html > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/stressenergy/stressenergy.html > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/einstien/einstien.html > > -- Kevin Aylward > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html > http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html --
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-05-13 02:39 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <c87899ca-2bbc-4f1b-ac5c-031436d260ef@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #419262 |
W dniu piątek, 12 maja 2017 23:56:33 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał: > But then again, there are people with personal difficulties who say > things like, "I don't understand it, and therefore it must be bullshit. > And as a result, there is no point in my trying to understand it. > Everything that is worth knowing, I understand already." And then they scream "Reality deniers!!! Cranks!!! relics!!! UUUUUU!!!"
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| From | "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-05-13 11:32 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: non-coordinate basis |
| Message-ID | <Ds6dncAZEeU7fYvEnZ2dnUU7-SXNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #419262 |
"Odd Bodkin" wrote in message news:of5b2d$1svi$2@gioia.aioe.org... On 5/12/17 4:50 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote: > I would not waste my time trying to understand pure bullshit....only a > complete idiot would. >Normal people, when they run into something they do not understand, might >say, "I'm not really interested in spending the effort to understand it. It >may be right, I don't know. And I won't know, because I don't understand >it." >But then again, there are people with personal difficulties who say things >like, "I don't understand it, and therefore it must be bullshit. And as a >result, there is no point in my trying to understand it. Everything that is >worth knowing, I understand already." >It's a pity you have not grappled with your personal difficulties, Ralph. I would say that is a fairly accurate summary of the facts. For example, as prior noted, without knowing the details of what the Christoffel symbols mean wrt different co-ordinate systems, and there relation to the geodesic equation, it is quite impossible to make a valid claim that Einstein's claim that they represents the gravitational field, was wrong. Unfortunately, without the background, one can't understand the reasons why the actual math of GR and SR has to be correct, as far as known experimental results. Its only the physical interpretation that is at issue for me. Without understanding the details of how the EFE come about, it is hard to really understand that GR is just a behavioural fit. It can take a long time to understand, what should be obvious. -- Kevin Aylward http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html
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