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New Gravity Theory

Started bykenseto <setoken@att.net>
First post2017-04-10 06:07 -0700
Last post2017-04-26 13:38 -0700
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  New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 06:07 -0700
    Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-10 15:40 +0000
      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 09:49 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-10 19:09 +0000
    Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-10 17:47 +0200
      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 09:53 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-12 08:04 +0200
          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 05:51 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-12 14:53 +0200
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 07:32 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-12 16:40 +0200
                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 13:39 -0700
                    Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 16:03 -0700
                      Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 05:04 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory Heki Entouba <buububu@enou3eh.ac> - 2017-04-13 12:09 +0000
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 12:19 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 23:00 -0700
                            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:02 -0700
                      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 12:57 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 15:04 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:25 +0000
                            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:09 -0700
                              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-15 10:44 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-14 08:22 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:07 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 22:07 -0500
                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-17 05:17 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 16:00 +0000
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 13:13 -0700
    Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 13:40 -0700
      Re: New Gravity Theory "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-10 14:52 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 15:19 -0700
      Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-10 23:25 -0700
      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 07:39 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 10:15 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 10:52 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 11:12 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 11:35 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 11:41 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 21:46 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 04:31 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 06:07 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-11 20:32 +0000
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 21:51 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 16:07 +0000
        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 20:35 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 23:18 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 05:45 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 16:06 +0000
            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 10:40 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 05:03 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 13:09 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 13:17 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-13 21:43 +0000
                Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:18 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-15 01:02 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-15 12:34 -0700
                    Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-15 23:07 +0200
                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 15:14 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-16 10:23 +0200
                          Re: New Gravity Theory Emma Harmony <aymmmaeo@anownwrm.cm> - 2017-04-16 15:05 +0000
                    Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 15:14 -0700
                      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-16 05:42 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 16:54 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-17 06:11 -0700
                            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 12:37 -0700
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 14:42 -0500
                                Re: New Gravity Theory benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-18 18:25 -0400
                                Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 05:26 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Ward Jenkins <uaar@rwjawr2r.aa> - 2017-04-19 13:08 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 12:30 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-19 19:34 +0000
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:16 -0700
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 13:25 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:45 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 14:02 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 07:16 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 13:08 -0700
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-20 14:05 -0700
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 21:05 +0000
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 14:26 -0700
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-08 13:44 +0000
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 06:24 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 06:50 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 14:45 -0500
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 13:00 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:22 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-19 23:20 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-20 12:11 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 07:06 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-20 16:47 +0200
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 09:56 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-20 23:48 +0200
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 15:13 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-21 10:49 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:13 +0000
                              Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-18 13:19 -0700
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Ward Jenkins <uaar@rwjawr2r.aa> - 2017-04-19 13:02 +0000
                                Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-19 15:40 +0200
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-19 18:05 +0000
                          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-17 06:34 -0700
                            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 16:03 +0000
                              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-17 13:11 -0700
                                Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:42 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-18 06:17 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 20:17 +0000
                            Re: New Gravity Theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-19 20:30 +0200
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-19 19:37 +0000
                              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 13:19 -0700
                                Re: New Gravity Theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-20 14:09 +0200
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:12 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 15:26 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-25 01:29 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-25 10:35 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 14:21 -0700
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-26 05:58 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-26 14:26 +0000
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:07 -0500
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-26 06:53 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-26 05:55 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-26 17:51 +0000
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 12:30 -0700
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 06:43 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 13:02 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 14:53 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 14:56 -0700
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-28 05:37 -0700
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 16:44 -0700
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-29 06:47 -0700
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:11 -0500
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 07:49 -0700
                                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:59 -0500
                                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-01 11:56 -0700
                                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:20 -0500
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:23 -0500
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 22:41 -0700
                                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:11 -0500
                                                                Re: New Gravity Theory RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 12:25 -0700
                                                                Re: New Gravity Theory "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 07:47 +0100
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 14:18 +0100
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 17:46 +0200
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 14:43 -0700
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:12 -0500
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 17:23 +0200
                                                      Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 13:58 -0700
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 13:56 -0700
                                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 15:59 -0500
                                                        Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-30 00:55 -0700
                                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 08:01 -0500
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 22:47 -0700
                                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:13 -0500
                                                                Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-03 04:01 -0700
                                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 13:04 -0500
                                                          Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:25 -0700
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 22:52 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:09 -0500
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 07:42 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-30 18:19 +0000
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 17:33 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 02:39 +0000
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:57 -0500
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-19 23:15 +0200
                                Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-20 01:21 +0200
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-26 20:18 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-26 19:20 +0000
                                Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 07:44 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:09 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-07 02:06 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-07 07:14 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 14:19 +0000
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-07 17:45 +0200
                        Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-17 10:24 +0200
          Re: New Gravity Theory RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-26 13:08 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:23 +0200
            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 13:38 -0700

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#417563

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-28 17:46 +0200
Message-ID<odvnvc$35m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#417548
On 04/28/2017 03:18 PM, Kevin Aylward wrote:
> "JanPB"  wrote in message
> news:d1d82f8f-4c30-4283-9152-cbcd48fe4188@googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> ROFLOL, pot kettle black.
>> Your  math invention of 11 dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime
>> examples of day dreaming.
>
>> Not even wrong, sorry. You confuse the mathematical details (11 or 26
>> dimensions) with the question whether such theories WORK.
>
> The use of the word "dimension" by mathematicians is arbitrary, and
> somewhat akin to newspeak. All that there is, is that a phenomena being
> represented by a set of say, 11 numbers, or 26 numbers. There is nothing
> that leads to any deduction that the must be any real physical
> correspondence to those numbers. Without physical evidence, these
> alleged dimensions, are no more than a convenient calculation tool.
>
> I can plot pretty much any set of information on a graph, like $
> dollars, it don't mean that money is "geometry", hint Tom Roberts :-)
>
> I see a fundamental problem in the obvious. Mathematicians are truly not
> engineers. They really don't  understand the difference between
> mathematical inventions, and physical inventions. One only exists in the
> mind, the other, can, on occasions, actually generate, money.
>

Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
they underestimate non engineers.

Mathematicians as well as scientists do understand the difference
between mathematical inventions and physical inventions.

BTW, generating money does not make a border between them.


-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#417589

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-04-28 14:43 -0700
Message-ID<bef1e2e0-3a18-4c0f-bc08-3d60566ca627@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417563
W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik napisał:

> 
> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
> they underestimate non engineers.

Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
they underestimate engineers.

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#417649

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-29 10:12 -0500
Message-ID<oe2ahj$rl9$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417589
On 4/28/17 4:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik napisał:
> 
>>
>> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
>> they underestimate non engineers.
> 
> Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
> they underestimate engineers.
> 

Where did you get the impression that scientists consider themselves 
superior to engineers?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417651

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-29 17:23 +0200
Message-ID<oe2avg$kr6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#417649
Dne 29/04/2017 v 17:12 Odd Bodkin napsal(a):
> On 4/28/17 4:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>> W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik
>> napisał:
>>
>>>
>>> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
>>> they underestimate non engineers.
>>
>> Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
>> they underestimate engineers.
>>
> 
> Where did you get the impression that scientists consider themselves
> superior to engineers?
> 

As the opposite is much more often to be seen.
But it is never done by good engineers nor good scientists.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#417678

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-04-29 13:58 -0700
Message-ID<c4f12449-a38c-4bf3-9670-91d88c54be8e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417651
W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 17:23:30 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik napisał:
> Dne 29/04/2017 v 17:12 Odd Bodkin napsal(a):
> > On 4/28/17 4:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >> W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik
> >> napisał:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
> >>> they underestimate non engineers.
> >>
> >> Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
> >> they underestimate engineers.
> >>
> > 
> > Where did you get the impression that scientists consider themselves
> > superior to engineers?
> > 
> 
> As the opposite is much more often to be seen.

In my mind's eye, Horatio.

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#417676

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-04-29 13:56 -0700
Message-ID<418315e9-ba76-46d6-9d63-63428461a09f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417649
W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 17:12:54 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> On 4/28/17 4:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik napisał:
> > 
> >>
> >> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
> >> they underestimate non engineers.
> > 
> > Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
> > they underestimate engineers.
> > 
> 
> Where did you get the impression that scientists consider themselves 
> superior to engineers?

Here, for instance.

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#417679

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-29 15:59 -0500
Message-ID<oe2ura$b0$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417676
On 4/29/17 3:56 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 17:12:54 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>> On 4/28/17 4:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik napisał:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
>>>> they underestimate non engineers.
>>>
>>> Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
>>> they underestimate engineers.
>>>
>>
>> Where did you get the impression that scientists consider themselves
>> superior to engineers?
> 
> Here, for instance.
> 


I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it. What led you to the impression here that 
scientists consider themselves superior to engineers? Surely you have 
some evidence, rather than just something you carried in yourself?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417690

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-04-30 00:55 -0700
Message-ID<ae171ce3-ef6c-48cd-b982-ff6ab899f5fb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417679
W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 22:59:27 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> On 4/29/17 3:56 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 17:12:54 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> >> On 4/28/17 4:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >>> W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik napisał:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
> >>>> they underestimate non engineers.
> >>>
> >>> Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
> >>> they underestimate engineers.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Where did you get the impression that scientists consider themselves
> >> superior to engineers?
> > 
> > Here, for instance.
> > 
> 
> 
> I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it. 

That's because you're a brainwashed fanatic.

> What led you to the impression here that 
> scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?

Your idiot guru with "common sense
is a set of prejudices". Poor idiot Jan 
with "another complaining engineer, nothing
new". And many others.

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#417765

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 08:01 -0500
Message-ID<oe7bk5$j47$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417690
On 4/30/17 2:55 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 22:59:27 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>> On 4/29/17 3:56 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 17:12:54 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>>>> On 4/28/17 4:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>> W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik napisał:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
>>>>>> they underestimate non engineers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
>>>>> they underestimate engineers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where did you get the impression that scientists consider themselves
>>>> superior to engineers?
>>>
>>> Here, for instance.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it.
> 
> That's because you're a brainwashed fanatic.

Surely you can point it out to me why you believe what you do.

> 
>> What led you to the impression here that
>> scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?
> 
> Your idiot guru with "common sense
> is a set of prejudices". 

Einstein has never posted here. You said that HERE you've seen evidence 
that scientists consider themselves superior to engineers.

> Poor idiot Jan
> with "another complaining engineer, nothing
> new". And many others.
> 

I'm not sure where you got in Jan's remark that scientists consider 
themselves superior to engineers. First of all, is Jan a physicist?


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417846

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-05-01 22:47 -0700
Message-ID<7c86e280-150c-4935-9eaa-9f17747420e9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417765
W dniu poniedziałek, 1 maja 2017 15:02:02 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:

> >>
> >> I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it.
> > 
> > That's because you're a brainwashed fanatic.
> 
> Surely you can point it out to me why you believe what you do.
> 
> > 
> >> What led you to the impression here that
> >> scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?
> > 
> > Your idiot guru with "common sense
> > is a set of prejudices". 
> 
> Einstein has never posted here. You said that HERE you've seen evidence 
> that scientists consider themselves superior to engineers.

Einstein has never posted here, true. But he is often 
quoted HERE, poor idiot.

> > Poor idiot Jan
> > with "another complaining engineer, nothing
> > new". And many others.
> > 
> 
> I'm not sure where you got in Jan's remark that scientists consider 
> themselves superior to engineers. First of all, is Jan a physicist?

No. Second of all - is he a scientist? And third - is
he one of you?

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#417880

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-02 14:13 -0500
Message-ID<oealp8$c2d$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417846
On 5/2/17 12:47 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu poniedziałek, 1 maja 2017 15:02:02 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> 
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it.
>>>
>>> That's because you're a brainwashed fanatic.
>>
>> Surely you can point it out to me why you believe what you do.
>>
>>>
>>>> What led you to the impression here that
>>>> scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?
>>>
>>> Your idiot guru with "common sense
>>> is a set of prejudices".
>>
>> Einstein has never posted here. You said that HERE you've seen evidence
>> that scientists consider themselves superior to engineers.
> 
> Einstein has never posted here, true. But he is often
> quoted HERE, poor idiot.

Yes, that's natural. But I don't see what that has to do with scientists 
(including Einstein) considering themselves superior to engineers.

> 
>>> Poor idiot Jan
>>> with "another complaining engineer, nothing
>>> new". And many others.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure where you got in Jan's remark that scientists consider
>> themselves superior to engineers. First of all, is Jan a physicist?
> 
> No. Second of all - is he a scientist? And third - is
> he one of you?
> 

OK, so if Jan is not a scientist, where are you getting the impression 
here that scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417947

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-05-03 04:01 -0700
Message-ID<6a36a410-3bb8-4331-9d2b-a0ac9692742f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417880
W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 21:13:47 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> On 5/2/17 12:47 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu poniedziałek, 1 maja 2017 15:02:02 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> > 
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it.
> >>>
> >>> That's because you're a brainwashed fanatic.
> >>
> >> Surely you can point it out to me why you believe what you do.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> What led you to the impression here that
> >>>> scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?
> >>>
> >>> Your idiot guru with "common sense
> >>> is a set of prejudices".
> >>
> >> Einstein has never posted here. You said that HERE you've seen evidence
> >> that scientists consider themselves superior to engineers.
> > 
> > Einstein has never posted here, true. But he is often
> > quoted HERE, poor idiot.
> 
> Yes, that's natural. But I don't see what that has to do with scientists 
> (including Einstein) considering themselves superior to engineers.

Of course you don't. You're just a brainwashed 
fanatic told that scientists are always nice 
and good, and they're free from the weaknesses
of mortal worms.



> 
> > 
> >>> Poor idiot Jan
> >>> with "another complaining engineer, nothing
> >>> new". And many others.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'm not sure where you got in Jan's remark that scientists consider
> >> themselves superior to engineers. First of all, is Jan a physicist?
> > 
> > No. Second of all - is he a scientist? And third - is
> > he one of you?
> > 
> 
> OK, so if Jan is not a scientist

And isn't he?


> where are you getting the impression 
> here that scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?

That was not what I wrote. I wrote "your moronic bunch"
so I provide evidence for your moronic bunch. 
Of course, it's samely true with "scientists",
and in my opinion Jan is a typical scientist, 
but I won't insist he is.

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#417968

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-03 13:04 -0500
Message-ID<oed63u$inj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417947
On 5/3/17 6:01 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 21:13:47 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>> On 5/2/17 12:47 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu poniedziałek, 1 maja 2017 15:02:02 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's because you're a brainwashed fanatic.
>>>>
>>>> Surely you can point it out to me why you believe what you do.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What led you to the impression here that
>>>>>> scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Your idiot guru with "common sense
>>>>> is a set of prejudices".
>>>>
>>>> Einstein has never posted here. You said that HERE you've seen evidence
>>>> that scientists consider themselves superior to engineers.
>>>
>>> Einstein has never posted here, true. But he is often
>>> quoted HERE, poor idiot.
>>
>> Yes, that's natural. But I don't see what that has to do with scientists
>> (including Einstein) considering themselves superior to engineers.
> 
> Of course you don't. You're just a brainwashed
> fanatic told that scientists are always nice
> and good, and they're free from the weaknesses
> of mortal worms.

Eh?  Who has said that?
I'm still looking for your evidence that scientists consider themselves 
superior to engineers.

> 
> 
> 
>>
>>>
>>>>> Poor idiot Jan
>>>>> with "another complaining engineer, nothing
>>>>> new". And many others.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure where you got in Jan's remark that scientists consider
>>>> themselves superior to engineers. First of all, is Jan a physicist?
>>>
>>> No. Second of all - is he a scientist? And third - is
>>> he one of you?
>>>
>>
>> OK, so if Jan is not a scientist
> 
> And isn't he?

I don't think so. What makes you say that?

> 
> 
>> where are you getting the impression
>> here that scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?
> 
> That was not what I wrote. I wrote "your moronic bunch"
> so I provide evidence for your moronic bunch.
> Of course, it's samely true with "scientists",
> and in my opinion Jan is a typical scientist,
> but I won't insist he is.

When I asked you where you got the impression that scientists considered 
themselves superior to engineers, you said "Here for instance."

Now, I'm going to ask you directly: Do you think scientists consider 
themselves superior to engineers or not? And from where or what did you 
get that impression?



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417820

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 14:25 -0700
Message-ID<6d4e1f10-1042-41fd-98e6-15c17b7c90a9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417690
On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 12:55:03 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 22:59:27 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> > On 4/29/17 3:56 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > > W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 17:12:54 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> > >> On 4/28/17 4:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > >>> W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik napisał:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
> > >>>> they underestimate non engineers.
> > >>>
> > >>> Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
> > >>> they underestimate engineers.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Where did you get the impression that scientists consider themselves
> > >> superior to engineers?
> > > 
> > > Here, for instance.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it. 
> 
> That's because you're a brainwashed fanatic.
> 
> > What led you to the impression here that 
> > scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?
> 
> Your idiot guru with "common sense
> is a set of prejudices". Poor idiot Jan 
> with "another complaining engineer, nothing
> new". And many others.

I never said I was considering myself superior. I simply stated a FACT that
on this newsgroup, since its inception (around 1995 IIRC), a disproportionate
number of false and not-even-wrong claims about relativity came from MALE
RETIRED ENGINEERS, mostly electrical engineers.

It's just one of those strange statistics, like the following one, for
example: majority of claims of being abducted by UFOs come from overweight
women. It's known but nobody knows why.

One of those things and none of it makes me feel superior as long as the
people in question don't assume that "their ignorance is as good as experts'
knowledge" and don't yell obscenities at people constantly, like you do.

--
Jan

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#417847

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-05-01 22:52 -0700
Message-ID<fae6773b-58a1-4803-97e6-0634f6bd3c5f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417820
W dniu poniedziałek, 1 maja 2017 23:26:01 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 12:55:03 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 22:59:27 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> > > On 4/29/17 3:56 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > W dniu sobota, 29 kwietnia 2017 17:12:54 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> > > >> On 4/28/17 4:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > > >>> W dniu piątek, 28 kwietnia 2017 17:46:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik napisał:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Well, big mistakes of many engineers is
> > > >>>> they underestimate non engineers.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Well, big mistake of all morons like you is
> > > >>> they underestimate engineers.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Where did you get the impression that scientists consider themselves
> > > >> superior to engineers?
> > > > 
> > > > Here, for instance.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it. 
> > 
> > That's because you're a brainwashed fanatic.
> > 
> > > What led you to the impression here that 
> > > scientists consider themselves superior to engineers?
> > 
> > Your idiot guru with "common sense
> > is a set of prejudices". Poor idiot Jan 
> > with "another complaining engineer, nothing
> > new". And many others.
> 
> I never said I was considering myself superior. 

You only scream "I'm a GURU!" "I'm like Bach!!"
And, of course, syntax schmyntax.


> I simply stated a FACT that
> on this newsgroup, since its inception (around 1995 IIRC), a disproportionate
> number of false and not-even-wrong claims about relativity came from MALE
> RETIRED ENGINEERS, mostly electrical engineers.

Or at least you consider them false and not even wrong.
Sort of the same thing.

> One of those things and none of it makes me feel superior as long as the
> people in question don't assume that "their ignorance is as good as experts'
> knowledge" and don't yell obscenities at people constantly, like you do.

Or your fellow idiots - Gary, Paparios, Tom. And yourself.

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#417646

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-29 10:09 -0500
Message-ID<oe2aac$rl9$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417305
On 4/26/17 7:55 AM, kenseto wrote:
> Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.

Being original has nothing whatsoever to do with being of scientific value.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417709

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-30 07:42 -0700
Message-ID<f278e85e-c1e6-4a60-b7d7-2beb6cf68218@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417646
On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 11:09:03 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/26/17 7:55 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> 
> Being original has nothing whatsoever to do with being of scientific value.

Being original and copy-rightable is scientific.

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#417723

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-30 18:19 +0000
Message-ID<oe59qr$3uf$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#417709
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 11:09:03 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/26/17 7:55 AM, kenseto wrote:
>> > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. 
>> > The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and 
>> > therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.

>> Being original has nothing whatsoever to do with being of scientific value.

>Being original and copy-rightable is scientific.

No, Stupid Ken.  Being original simply means that you didn't copy it from
someone else, it means you made it up yourself.  Which is easy for you,
there isn't anyone else out there who could create as big of a failure as
Model Mechanics is.  "Original" does not mean "scientific", it means 
"original".

In addition, Stupid Ken, current copyright law states that all original
work is born copyrighted.  The original portion of this post is
Copyright © 2017 Michael Moroney.  Portions quoted under the fair use
provision. Registering a work with the Copyright office and adding a
copyright notice provides additional evidence (such as proof of date) but
are no longer strictly necessary.

Works of fiction can be, and are, copyrighted.  Complete outright lies are
copyrighted (but still could be subject to slander/libel).  True items are
copyrighted.  The Library of Congress is full of copyrighted kꙭkbooks such
as yours on Model Mechanics.  Or at least that obscure warehouse of theirs
is.

(how much did you waste on a lawyer to get your failure of a book copyrighted,
Stupid Ken?)

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#417738

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-30 17:33 -0700
Message-ID<ec98e2d0-ab54-4835-b0f5-dc93a7c642d3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417723
On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 2:19:09 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
> >On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 11:09:03 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 4/26/17 7:55 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >> > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. 
> >> > The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and 
> >> > therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> 
> >> Being original has nothing whatsoever to do with being of scientific value.
> 
> >Being original and copy-rightable is scientific.
> 
> No, Stupid Ken.  Being original simply means that you didn't copy it from
> someone else, it means you made it up yourself.  Which is easy for you,
> there isn't anyone else out there who could create as big of a failure as
> Model Mechanics is.  "Original" does not mean "scientific", it means 
> "original".
> 
> In addition, Stupid Ken, current copyright law states that all original
> work is born copyrighted.  The original portion of this post is
> Copyright © 2017 Michael Moroney.  Portions quoted under the fair use
> provision. Registering a work with the Copyright office and adding a
> copyright notice provides additional evidence (such as proof of date) but
> are no longer strictly necessary.
> 
> Works of fiction can be, and are, copyrighted.  Complete outright lies are
> copyrighted (but still could be subject to slander/libel).  True items are
> copyrighted.  The Library of Congress is full of copyrighted kꙭkbooks such
> as yours on Model Mechanics.  Or at least that obscure warehouse of theirs
> is.
> 
> (how much did you waste on a lawyer to get your failure of a book copyrighted,
> Stupid Ken?)

Moronic argument.....no wonder your na,e is Moron-y.

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#417739

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-05-01 02:39 +0000
Message-ID<oe674p$1el$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#417738
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>Moronic argument.....no wonder your na,e is Moron-y.

So what part of what I wrote do you claim is moronic, Stupid Ken?
And why do you claim it is moronic, Stupid Ken?

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