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| Started by | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| First post | 2017-04-21 13:02 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-04-24 07:27 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 307 — 30 participants |
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Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-21 13:02 -0700
Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-21 15:52 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-21 19:49 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-04-22 00:39 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 04:48 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 07:05 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 07:19 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 07:41 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 08:00 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 08:34 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 10:19 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 13:39 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 18:19 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-22 22:26 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-23 08:24 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-23 09:00 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-23 14:10 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-23 19:54 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-24 12:53 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 12:40 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 12:43 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 13:48 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 12:49 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-24 20:12 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 19:44 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 15:23 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-25 19:20 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-25 13:06 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 19:12 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 08:06 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-23 08:41 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 08:49 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:22 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 10:35 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:51 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 12:30 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-23 15:38 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:40 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:41 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:53 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-23 11:01 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-23 11:04 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-23 11:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 12:28 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-23 13:54 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 14:14 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-23 15:49 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 07:07 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 17:10 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:16 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 19:48 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-23 16:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-23 16:17 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 07:15 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:48 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 08:05 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 08:22 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 08:42 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:59 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 09:22 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:51 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 10:05 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 10:45 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 11:53 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 12:54 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-25 00:11 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 17:29 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 15:38 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-25 12:02 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-25 10:26 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-25 11:16 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-25 14:36 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-25 13:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-25 13:55 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-26 05:19 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-25 23:05 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-25 14:42 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-26 17:39 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-26 16:36 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-27 17:34 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-27 09:42 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-27 19:07 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 16:18 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 07:25 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-27 08:00 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-27 06:58 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-27 07:31 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-27 07:45 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-27 08:30 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-27 10:26 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org thailao2558@gmail.com - 2017-04-27 13:54 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-27 14:06 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-28 00:56 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-28 09:37 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-28 13:58 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-29 06:48 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-29 16:28 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org thailao2558@gmail.com - 2017-04-29 09:42 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 22:49 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-01 01:24 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 04:50 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:55 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 15:19 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 16:48 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-02 05:40 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 06:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 06:09 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:02 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 03:58 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 06:20 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 09:11 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-01 14:26 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 08:15 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 17:36 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:21 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-04 06:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:44 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:12 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-05 06:11 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 20:48 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-06 06:33 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 21:47 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-24 20:07 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 15:10 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-25 12:07 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-25 19:19 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-25 23:27 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 19:25 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-26 16:53 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-26 09:17 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-26 19:03 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 18:11 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-27 06:12 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:20 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-27 15:16 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-27 15:21 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-27 15:50 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-27 15:53 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 07:02 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-27 16:25 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-27 09:40 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 15:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-28 02:53 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-28 05:12 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 06:46 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-28 08:06 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 15:40 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-29 07:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-29 07:30 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-29 08:17 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-29 08:38 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:01 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 11:06 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-29 15:17 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 03:17 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-30 11:13 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 07:15 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 07:38 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 10:53 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-28 15:12 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-23 15:33 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 07:01 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-27 07:58 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 07:23 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 16:57 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-02 05:47 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 06:06 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-02 06:14 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 06:23 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-02 10:40 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 06:52 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-02 10:48 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 05:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-03 06:54 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 07:01 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-03 23:07 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 03:10 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 03:38 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:08 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 04:22 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:55 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 05:26 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 06:21 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:46 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 08:55 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:14 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 23:26 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 04:34 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 04:45 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 05:21 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:32 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 08:12 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 12:57 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:00 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 15:22 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 23:15 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:45 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 07:38 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 20:19 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 06:47 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-03 18:27 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 12:37 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-04 06:10 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 06:29 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 06:49 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 08:08 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 13:40 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 14:34 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 22:34 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 04:30 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 05:55 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 15:21 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-05 08:44 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 10:36 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:42 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 08:33 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 10:03 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 17:14 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 18:12 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 19:55 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:48 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 20:56 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:08 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 07:53 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 11:51 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 12:23 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 16:25 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 18:56 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 06:54 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 07:14 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 07:56 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-08 08:25 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 07:00 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 08:59 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 05:46 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-10 13:13 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 04:55 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-10 13:49 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 04:25 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 04:59 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-05 05:48 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Lokù Bukovych Davka <ocyoa@vackokaov.bu> - 2017-05-05 12:50 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-05 06:18 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 14:48 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:30 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 08:09 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:00 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-04 06:14 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:49 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-05 05:58 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:35 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-05 14:04 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:39 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-25 04:53 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 07:12 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 09:03 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-28 07:39 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 07:57 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 15:00 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-28 13:40 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 15:27 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:33 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-30 02:10 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:36 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-24 13:24 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 13:06 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 13:14 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 20:14 +0000
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:04 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-25 00:08 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-25 09:34 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-25 23:35 +0200
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 16:21 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-25 12:12 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 18:39 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 10:53 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 23:29 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 07:50 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-24 20:07 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 13:07 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-25 18:51 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-26 08:53 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-26 19:03 +0100
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 08:51 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 10:09 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 10:22 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:13 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:17 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 13:44 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 13:52 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:57 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 15:00 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 15:10 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 15:48 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 16:25 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:38 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:42 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:34 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-24 12:41 -0500
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 09:05 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 10:36 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 10:42 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 10:54 -0700
Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 07:27 -0700
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-04-28 15:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <odvm5o$ia8$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #417540 |
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes: >On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 10:53:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote: >> It still doesn't work, Stupid Ken. >Hey fuck head...... The link I provided in this link this post works fine: >_____________________________________________________________________________-_ >On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 12:25:28 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote: >- show quoted text - >FOR ONCE YOU ARE RIGHT. The correct link is: >http://www.mоdelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf >_______________________________________________________________________________ >Now go fuck youself,,,,,,I will not waste time on you. I'm only trying to help you by pointing out to you that your links are broken. How do you expect anyone to read your garbage if you can't even give a proper link to it?
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-23 15:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <67b028a4-5ea7-4117-bbb2-850ae0442864@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416995 |
On Sunday, April 23, 2017 at 2:28:45 PM UTC-5, Ed Lake wrote: > On Sunday, April 23, 2017 at 1:03:20 PM UTC-5, danco...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, April 23, 2017 at 8:49:22 AM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote: > > > If you read my paper, I show what Einstein wrote and > > > what mathematicians CLAIM he wrote. So, in no way am > > > I disagreeing with Einstein. > > > > If you read a bit further in Einstein's 1905 EMB paper you will find that he deduces from a combination of his two postulates that the speed of light has the fixed value c in terms of every system of inertial coordinates, not just the rest frame of the emitter. > > > > Yes, in every frame of reference they will measure the speed of light to be c. HOWEVER, due to time dilation, c will actually be DIFFERENT in every frame of reference. That is what RELATIVITY and SIMULTANEITY are all about. To see and measure the difference, you need to COMPARE the speed of TIME in the different frames of reference. COMPARE the speed of TIME ? That is the WHOLE DAMN POINT, There is No way to Verify the Current state of Time Dilation in the Occupied Frame. c is always going to be measured to be c. Compared to some Distant parts of the Universe, Our Frame is Already Above the speed of light, but we are jut fine and feel no tidal forces or random detectable deviations in the Homogeneity of the CMBR
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-24 07:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d97f3b1b-091d-48ae-836e-a14b0735c570@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417013 |
On Sunday, April 23, 2017 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-5, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > On Sunday, April 23, 2017 at 2:28:45 PM UTC-5, Ed Lake wrote: > > On Sunday, April 23, 2017 at 1:03:20 PM UTC-5, danco...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, April 23, 2017 at 8:49:22 AM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote: > > > > If you read my paper, I show what Einstein wrote and > > > > what mathematicians CLAIM he wrote. So, in no way am > > > > I disagreeing with Einstein. > > > > > > If you read a bit further in Einstein's 1905 EMB paper you will find that he deduces from a combination of his two postulates that the speed of light has the fixed value c in terms of every system of inertial coordinates, not just the rest frame of the emitter. > > > > > > > Yes, in every frame of reference they will measure the speed of light to be c. HOWEVER, due to time dilation, c will actually be DIFFERENT in every frame of reference. That is what RELATIVITY and SIMULTANEITY are all about. To see and measure the difference, you need to COMPARE the speed of TIME in the different frames of reference. > > COMPARE the speed of TIME ? > > That is the WHOLE DAMN POINT, There is No way to Verify the Current state of Time Dilation in the Occupied Frame. c is always going to be measured to be c. > > Compared to some Distant parts of the Universe, Our Frame is Already Above the speed of light, but we are jut fine and feel no tidal forces or random detectable deviations in the Homogeneity of the CMBR All you need to do to compare the speed of time in two frames of reference is put one atomic clock atop a mountain (or atop a building) and put another atomic clock at the bottom of the mountain (or at the bottom of a building). The two clocks will tick at different rates, the lower clock will tick slower. This is ALREADY BEING DEMONSTRATED with GPS satellites. Hafele-Keating demonstrated it, since they were in airplanes for the trips, and then measured the time differences when they got back on the ground. Ignoring the evidence doesn't make the evidence go away. Ed
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2017-04-27 07:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <xu-dnWkzbtVvd5zEnZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #417054 |
On 4/24/17 4/24/17 9:01 AM, Ed Lake wrote:
> All you need to do to compare the speed of time in two frames of reference is
> put one atomic clock atop a mountain (or atop a building) and put another
> atomic clock at the bottom of the mountain (or at the bottom of a building).
> The two clocks will tick at different rates, the lower clock will tick
> slower.
Nope. There are several ways to compare them:
1. via SIGNALS. But before you can claim "they tick at different rates"
you MUST understand how gravitation affects those SIGNALS. Do that
and you find it accounts for the entire observed effect, meaning that
each clock ticks at its usual rate (and if the clocks are identical
then their usual rates are the same).
2. by leaving them there for a while, recording each clock's start and
end time, and comparing the time differences. But before you can claim
"they tick at different rates" you MUST understand how their paths
through spacetime compare. Do that and you find it accounts for the
entire observed effect, meaning that each clock ticks at its usual
rate (and if the clocks are identical then their usual rates are the
same).
3. Place a frequency standard next to each clock (so gravity cannot
affect the signals between each clock and the adjacent standard).
Do this and you find the two clocks tick at the same rate.
You keep making the same mistake, and are too stupid to recognize what you don't
know, even when you are told by multiple experts. How sad.
Tom Roberts
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| From | kenseto <setoken@att.net> |
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| Date | 2017-04-27 07:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0dd01ac5-f215-4cb7-9eb0-a6f8a4dc6d8a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417404 |
On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 8:58:33 AM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote: > On 4/24/17 4/24/17 9:01 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > > All you need to do to compare the speed of time in two frames of reference is > > put one atomic clock atop a mountain (or atop a building) and put another > > atomic clock at the bottom of the mountain (or at the bottom of a building). > > The two clocks will tick at different rates, the lower clock will tick > > slower. > > Nope. There are several ways to compare them: > 1. via SIGNALS. But before you can claim "they tick at different rates" > you MUST understand how gravitation affects those SIGNALS. Do that > and you find it accounts for the entire observed effect, meaning that > each clock ticks at its usual rate (and if the clocks are identical > then their usual rates are the same). > 2. by leaving them there for a while, recording each clock's start and > end time, and comparing the time differences. But before you can claim > "they tick at different rates" you MUST understand how their paths > through spacetime compare. Do that and you find it accounts for the > entire observed effect, meaning that each clock ticks at its usual > rate (and if the clocks are identical then their usual rates are the > same). This is the same as saying that they accumulate clock seconds at different rates. Your invention of spacetime paths for the clocks is irrelevant. > 3. Place a frequency standard next to each clock (so gravity cannot > affect the signals between each clock and the adjacent standard). > Do this and you find the two clocks tick at the same rate. > > You keep making the same mistake, and are too stupid to recognize what you don't > know, even when you are told by multiple experts. How sad. > > Tom Roberts
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 16:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <BuedncBaT_ihMprEnZ2dnUU7_81g4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #417413 |
On 4/27/17 4/27/17 - 9:23 AM, kenseto wrote: > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 8:58:33 AM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote: >> On 4/24/17 4/24/17 9:01 AM, Ed Lake wrote: >>> All you need to do to compare the speed of time in two frames of reference is >>> put one atomic clock atop a mountain (or atop a building) and put another >>> atomic clock at the bottom of the mountain (or at the bottom of a building). >>> The two clocks will tick at different rates, the lower clock will tick >>> slower. >> >> Nope. There are several ways to compare them: >> 1. via SIGNALS. But before you can claim "they tick at different rates" >> you MUST understand how gravitation affects those SIGNALS. Do that >> and you find it accounts for the entire observed effect, meaning that >> each clock ticks at its usual rate (and if the clocks are identical >> then their usual rates are the same). >> 2. by leaving them there for a while, recording each clock's start and >> end time, and comparing the time differences. But before you can claim >> "they tick at different rates" you MUST understand how their paths >> through spacetime compare. Do that and you find it accounts for the >> entire observed effect, meaning that each clock ticks at its usual >> rate (and if the clocks are identical then their usual rates are the >> same). > > This is the same as saying that they accumulate clock seconds at different rates. No it ISN'T. Apparently your understanding of English, logic, and geometry are all too poor to recognize this. Yet you have wasted decades on such nonsense. How sad. Tom Roberts
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| From | kenseto <setoken@att.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 05:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c60d4d7a-9886-4b38-8959-6400b5449e7d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417823 |
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 5:57:22 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote: > On 4/27/17 4/27/17 - 9:23 AM, kenseto wrote: > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 8:58:33 AM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote: > >> On 4/24/17 4/24/17 9:01 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > >>> All you need to do to compare the speed of time in two frames of reference is > >>> put one atomic clock atop a mountain (or atop a building) and put another > >>> atomic clock at the bottom of the mountain (or at the bottom of a building). > >>> The two clocks will tick at different rates, the lower clock will tick > >>> slower. > >> > >> Nope. There are several ways to compare them: > >> 1. via SIGNALS. But before you can claim "they tick at different rates" > >> you MUST understand how gravitation affects those SIGNALS. Do that > >> and you find it accounts for the entire observed effect, meaning that > >> each clock ticks at its usual rate (and if the clocks are identical > >> then their usual rates are the same). > >> 2. by leaving them there for a while, recording each clock's start and > >> end time, and comparing the time differences. But before you can claim > >> "they tick at different rates" you MUST understand how their paths > >> through spacetime compare. Do that and you find it accounts for the > >> entire observed effect, meaning that each clock ticks at its usual > >> rate (and if the clocks are identical then their usual rates are the > >> same). > > > > This is the same as saying that they accumulate clock seconds at different rates. > > No it ISN'T. Apparently your understanding of English, logic, and geometry are > all too poor to recognize this. Yet you have wasted decades on such nonsense. > How sad. When two clocks accumulate different number of seconds between meetings, the cause of this differences is due to that they were accumulate clock seconds at different rates. There is no escape from this solid conclusion.
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 06:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <154e5f0a-1ec2-4aab-b6ca-d0b1849261b9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417855 |
On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 6:47:04 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote: > > When two clocks accumulate different number of seconds between meetings, the > cause of this differences is due to that they were accumulate clock seconds > at different rates. There is no escape from this solid conclusion. There is no escape from your bizarre and ignorant yammering. According to the LT, a clock in B appears to run slower than a clock in A and a clock in A appears to run slower than a clock in B. Your assertions are grossly illogical and irrational when the facts are considered.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 06:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cdb39050-f94d-4131-bd7a-6d37c01233ba@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417857 |
W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 15:06:47 UTC+2 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał: > There is no escape from your bizarre and ignorant yammering. According to > the LT, a clock in B appears to run slower than a clock in A and a clock > in A appears to run slower than a clock in B. In the imagination of a fanatic moron, only. Clocks of real GPS indicate t'=t, just like serious clocks should...
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 06:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <de10c42f-534e-479f-9581-6cff118bf19b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417859 |
On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 7:14:57 AM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 15:06:47 UTC+2 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał: > > > > There is no escape from your bizarre and ignorant yammering. According to > > the LT, a clock in B appears to run slower than a clock in A and a clock > > in A appears to run slower than a clock in B. > > In the imagination of a fanatic moron, only. I said ACCORDING TO THE LT, you stupid fool. Can't you READ?! > Clocks of real GPS indicate t'=t, just > like serious clocks should... A lie, as expected from a dishonest ignoramus.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 10:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f6e8c864-e6ac-461c-be9f-c95577861283@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417860 |
W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 15:23:09 UTC+2 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał: > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 7:14:57 AM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > > > W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 15:06:47 UTC+2 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał: > > > > > > There is no escape from your bizarre and ignorant yammering. According to > > > the LT, a clock in B appears to run slower than a clock in A and a clock > > > in A appears to run slower than a clock in B. > > > > In the imagination of a fanatic moron, only. > > I said ACCORDING TO THE LT, you stupid fool. Can't you READ?! And I said - in your sick imagination. One doesn't deny the second. > > Clocks of real GPS indicate t'=t, just > > like serious clocks should... > > A lie, as expected from a dishonest ignoramus. Unfortunately, poor idiot, it's easy to check it.
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| From | Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 06:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f5522e8f-2fcc-42a9-97a5-c6c365713834@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417859 |
On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 8:14:57 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > Clocks of real GPS indicate t'=t Last time you said this, you sent me to a link, I think it was leapsecond.org I think it was http://www.leapsecond.com/java/gpsclock.htm I think it was your impression that the satellite clocks synchronized with UTC without any manipulation or calibration. I contacted the author of that web page, and he confirmed that is not the case. First of all, they are calibrated to deal with time dilation effects that will be constant for a body orbiting in a geosynchronous orbit around earth. Secondly, they are synchronized on a daily basis. to deal with time dilation effects that change; e.g. gravitational fields and changes in velocity due to the moon and sun. Although I didn't know the exact details, It is analogous to re setting each satellite each day so that the noon signal from each satellite arrived at Greenwich at the very moment when the center of the sun passes over the zero longitude line. So yes, the clocks have t'=t like serious clocks should but only in one location--Greenwich England. And the only reason this "serious clock" criteria is met is because the clocks on all the satellite were calibrated, to account for time dilation effects of going around the earth and are regularly reset to deal with time dilation effects of slight ellipticity, and effects of sun and moon. However, for everywhere else in the world t'=t(t',theta, phi); that is, the time of each satellite signal is a function of the position you are in the world. If it were not, then of course, the GPS technology for locating yourself according to the GPS signal from multiple satellites would fail.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 10:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <33a00a09-682f-4af6-8cd0-b77df256ac2d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417862 |
W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 15:52:55 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 8:14:57 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > Clocks of real GPS indicate t'=t > > Last time you said this, > you sent me to a link, > I think it was leapsecond.org > I think it was http://www.leapsecond.com/java/gpsclock.htm > > I think it was your impression > that the satellite clocks synchronized with UTC > without any manipulation or calibration. Only physicists and other idiots can believe clocks indicating anything serious without a calibration. > First of all, they are calibrated > to deal with time dilation effects A lie, as expected from relativistic trash. Any description of your moronic "time dilation" includes clocks indicating t'<>t. There is no such effect in real GPS. With the precision of an acceptable error. You're fabricating this "effect".
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| From | Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 05:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <40dfd43f-3e38-47d2-a7a0-31dfa7f7b6eb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417865 |
On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 12:48:13 PM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 15:52:55 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 8:14:57 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > > Clocks of real GPS indicate t'=t > > > > Last time you said this, > > you sent me to a link, > > I think it was leapsecond.org > > I think it was http://www.leapsecond.com/java/gpsclock.htm > > > > I think it was your impression > > that the satellite clocks synchronized with UTC > > without any manipulation or calibration. > > Only physicists and other idiots can believe > clocks indicating anything serious without a > calibration. > > > First of all, they are calibrated > > to deal with time dilation effects > > A lie, as expected from relativistic > trash. Any description of your moronic > "time dilation" includes clocks indicating > t'<>t. There is no such effect in real GPS. > With the precision of an acceptable error. > You're fabricating this "effect". http://www.leapsecond.com/history/Ashby-Relativity.htm The predicted GR correction for an altitude above sea level of 20,000 km is about +5.3e-10. The predicted SR correction for an orbital velocity of 14.000 km/h is about -8.4e-11. So the net GR + SR effect is about 4.4e-10.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 06:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d5ad73a6-6a11-458a-bfc4-76b0be9df28d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417950 |
W dniu środa, 3 maja 2017 14:03:09 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 12:48:13 PM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 15:52:55 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 8:14:57 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > > > Clocks of real GPS indicate t'=t > > > > > > Last time you said this, > > > you sent me to a link, > > > I think it was leapsecond.org > > > I think it was http://www.leapsecond.com/java/gpsclock.htm > > > > > > I think it was your impression > > > that the satellite clocks synchronized with UTC > > > without any manipulation or calibration. > > > > Only physicists and other idiots can believe > > clocks indicating anything serious without a > > calibration. > > > > > First of all, they are calibrated > > > to deal with time dilation effects > > > > A lie, as expected from relativistic > > trash. Any description of your moronic > > "time dilation" includes clocks indicating > > t'<>t. There is no such effect in real GPS. > > With the precision of an acceptable error. > > You're fabricating this "effect". > > http://www.leapsecond.com/history/Ashby-Relativity.htm > > The predicted GR correction for There is no such thing, unfortunately. The core of your shit is - the assumption that clocks are correct, proper and fine WITHOUT ANY CORRECTION. an altitude above sea level of 20,000 km is about +5.3e-10. > The predicted SR correction for an orbital velocity of 14.000 km/h is about -8.4e-11. > So the net GR + SR effect is about 4.4e-10. The value agrees. But your shit hasn't predicted any correction:(. It has predicted unsynchronizing clocks. And it predicted wrong. If your idiot guru knew, what is a clock and what it is for, he wouldn't fool himself.
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| From | Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 07:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <862c1feb-1ee8-4579-a4d7-8ba8b44a2016@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417954 |
On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 8:54:39 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > W dniu środa, 3 maja 2017 14:03:09 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 12:48:13 PM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > > W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 15:52:55 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 8:14:57 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > > > > Clocks of real GPS indicate t'=t > > > > > > > > Last time you said this, > > > > you sent me to a link, > > > > I think it was leapsecond.org > > > > I think it was http://www.leapsecond.com/java/gpsclock.htm > > > > > > > > I think it was your impression > > > > that the satellite clocks synchronized with UTC > > > > without any manipulation or calibration. > > > > > > Only physicists and other idiots can believe > > > clocks indicating anything serious without a > > > calibration. > > > > > > > First of all, they are calibrated > > > > to deal with time dilation effects > > > > > > A lie, as expected from relativistic > > > trash. Any description of your moronic > > > "time dilation" includes clocks indicating > > > t'<>t. There is no such effect in real GPS. > > > With the precision of an acceptable error. > > > You're fabricating this "effect". > > > > http://www.leapsecond.com/history/Ashby-Relativity.htm > > > > The predicted GR correction for > > There is no such thing, unfortunately. > The core of your shit is - the assumption > that clocks are correct, proper and fine > WITHOUT ANY CORRECTION. > > > > an altitude above sea level of 20,000 km is about +5.3e-10. > > The predicted SR correction for an orbital velocity of 14.000 km/h is about -8.4e-11. > > So the net GR + SR effect is about 4.4e-10. > > The value agrees. But your shit hasn't predicted > any correction:(. It has predicted unsynchronizing > clocks. And it predicted wrong. > If your idiot guru knew, what is a clock and > what it is for, he wouldn't fool himself. Obviously, none of your statements are true. Nothing exiting my digestive system has made any prediction about anything regarding the clocks on GPS satellites.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 23:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <257bcf9e-fad3-4db1-b037-456cc4569d2b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417956 |
W dniu środa, 3 maja 2017 16:01:19 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 8:54:39 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > W dniu środa, 3 maja 2017 14:03:09 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 12:48:13 PM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > > > W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 15:52:55 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 8:14:57 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > > > > > Clocks of real GPS indicate t'=t > > > > > > > > > > Last time you said this, > > > > > you sent me to a link, > > > > > I think it was leapsecond.org > > > > > I think it was http://www.leapsecond.com/java/gpsclock.htm > > > > > > > > > > I think it was your impression > > > > > that the satellite clocks synchronized with UTC > > > > > without any manipulation or calibration. > > > > > > > > Only physicists and other idiots can believe > > > > clocks indicating anything serious without a > > > > calibration. > > > > > > > > > First of all, they are calibrated > > > > > to deal with time dilation effects > > > > > > > > A lie, as expected from relativistic > > > > trash. Any description of your moronic > > > > "time dilation" includes clocks indicating > > > > t'<>t. There is no such effect in real GPS. > > > > With the precision of an acceptable error. > > > > You're fabricating this "effect". > > > > > > http://www.leapsecond.com/history/Ashby-Relativity.htm > > > > > > The predicted GR correction for > > > > There is no such thing, unfortunately. > > The core of your shit is - the assumption > > that clocks are correct, proper and fine > > WITHOUT ANY CORRECTION. > > > > > > > > an altitude above sea level of 20,000 km is about +5.3e-10. > > > The predicted SR correction for an orbital velocity of 14.000 km/h is about -8.4e-11. > > > So the net GR + SR effect is about 4.4e-10. > > > > The value agrees. But your shit hasn't predicted > > any correction:(. It has predicted unsynchronizing > > clocks. And it predicted wrong. > > If your idiot guru knew, what is a clock and > > what it is for, he wouldn't fool himself. > > Obviously, none of your statements are true. > Nothing exiting my digestive system > has made any prediction about anything > regarding the clocks on GPS satellites. But still your shit has done such predictions, and they are not good.
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| From | Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-04 03:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0cf26e30-df12-4b82-a27f-23ca76cb971d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #417995 |
On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 1:07:02 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > But still your shit has done such predictions, > and they are not good. Could you define what you mean by "your shit", "such predictions", "they" and "good"? Because so far as I know, you tend to use a nonstandard lexicon, where most of the words are intended ironically.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-05-04 03:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <021d2e35-2988-457f-b12c-39e3eadf3508@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #418006 |
W dniu czwartek, 4 maja 2017 12:10:50 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał: > On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 1:07:02 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > > > But still your shit has done such predictions, > > and they are not good. > > Could you define what you mean by "your shit", > "such predictions", "they" and "good"? Gladly, but define what you mean by "define" first.
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| From | Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-04 04:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1f9567f4-2a05-403d-8901-8b5437b82802@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #418007 |
On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 5:38:07 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 4 maja 2017 12:10:50 UTC+2 użytkownik Jonathan Doolin napisał:
> > On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 1:07:02 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > >
> > > But still your shit has done such predictions,
> > > and they are not good.
> >
> > Could you define what you mean by "your shit",
> > "such predictions", "they" and "good"?
>
> Gladly, but define what you mean by "define" first.
Define:
1. state or describe exactly the nature, scope, or meaning of.
2. explain, expound, elucidate, describe, clarify;
3. give the meaning of (a word or phrase)
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