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New Gravity Theory

Started bykenseto <setoken@att.net>
First post2017-04-10 06:07 -0700
Last post2017-04-26 13:38 -0700
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  New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 06:07 -0700
    Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-10 15:40 +0000
      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 09:49 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-10 19:09 +0000
    Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-10 17:47 +0200
      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 09:53 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-12 08:04 +0200
          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 05:51 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-12 14:53 +0200
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 07:32 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-12 16:40 +0200
                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 13:39 -0700
                    Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 16:03 -0700
                      Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 05:04 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory Heki Entouba <buububu@enou3eh.ac> - 2017-04-13 12:09 +0000
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 12:19 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 23:00 -0700
                            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:02 -0700
                      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 12:57 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 15:04 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:25 +0000
                            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:09 -0700
                              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-15 10:44 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-14 08:22 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:07 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 22:07 -0500
                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-17 05:17 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 16:00 +0000
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 13:13 -0700
    Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 13:40 -0700
      Re: New Gravity Theory "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-10 14:52 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-10 15:19 -0700
      Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-10 23:25 -0700
      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 07:39 -0700
        Re: New Gravity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 10:15 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 10:52 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 11:12 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 11:35 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 11:41 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 21:46 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 04:31 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 06:07 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-11 20:32 +0000
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 21:51 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 16:07 +0000
        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 20:35 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 23:18 -0700
          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 05:45 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 16:06 +0000
            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 10:40 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 05:03 -0700
              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 13:09 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 13:17 -0700
                Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-13 21:43 +0000
                Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 15:18 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-15 01:02 -0700
                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-15 12:34 -0700
                    Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-15 23:07 +0200
                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 15:14 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-16 10:23 +0200
                          Re: New Gravity Theory Emma Harmony <aymmmaeo@anownwrm.cm> - 2017-04-16 15:05 +0000
                    Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 15:14 -0700
                      Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-16 05:42 -0700
                        Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 16:54 -0700
                          Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-17 06:11 -0700
                            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 12:37 -0700
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 14:42 -0500
                                Re: New Gravity Theory benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-18 18:25 -0400
                                Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 05:26 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Ward Jenkins <uaar@rwjawr2r.aa> - 2017-04-19 13:08 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 12:30 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-19 19:34 +0000
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:16 -0700
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 13:25 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:45 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 14:02 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 07:16 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 13:08 -0700
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-20 14:05 -0700
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 21:05 +0000
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 14:26 -0700
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-08 13:44 +0000
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 06:24 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 06:50 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 14:45 -0500
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 13:00 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:22 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-19 23:20 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-20 12:11 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 07:06 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-20 16:47 +0200
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 09:56 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-20 23:48 +0200
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 15:13 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-21 10:49 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:13 +0000
                              Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-18 13:19 -0700
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Ward Jenkins <uaar@rwjawr2r.aa> - 2017-04-19 13:02 +0000
                                Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-19 15:40 +0200
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-19 18:05 +0000
                          Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-17 06:34 -0700
                            Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 16:03 +0000
                              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-17 13:11 -0700
                                Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:42 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-18 06:17 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 20:17 +0000
                            Re: New Gravity Theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-19 20:30 +0200
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-19 19:37 +0000
                              Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-19 13:19 -0700
                                Re: New Gravity Theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-20 14:09 +0200
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:12 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 15:26 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-25 01:29 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-25 10:35 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 14:21 -0700
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-26 05:58 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-26 14:26 +0000
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:07 -0500
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-26 06:53 -0700
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-26 05:55 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-26 17:51 +0000
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 12:30 -0700
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 06:43 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 13:02 -0700
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 14:53 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 14:56 -0700
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-28 05:37 -0700
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 16:44 -0700
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-29 06:47 -0700
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:11 -0500
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 07:49 -0700
                                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:59 -0500
                                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-01 11:56 -0700
                                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:20 -0500
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:23 -0500
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 22:41 -0700
                                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:11 -0500
                                                                Re: New Gravity Theory RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 12:25 -0700
                                                                Re: New Gravity Theory "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 07:47 +0100
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 14:18 +0100
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 17:46 +0200
                                                Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 14:43 -0700
                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:12 -0500
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 17:23 +0200
                                                      Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 13:58 -0700
                                                    Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 13:56 -0700
                                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 15:59 -0500
                                                        Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-30 00:55 -0700
                                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 08:01 -0500
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 22:47 -0700
                                                              Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:13 -0500
                                                                Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-03 04:01 -0700
                                                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 13:04 -0500
                                                          Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:25 -0700
                                                            Re: New Gravity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 22:52 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:09 -0500
                                        Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 07:42 -0700
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-30 18:19 +0000
                                            Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-30 17:33 -0700
                                              Re: New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 02:39 +0000
                                          Re: New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:57 -0500
                              Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-19 23:15 +0200
                                Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-20 01:21 +0200
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-26 20:18 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-26 19:20 +0000
                                Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-20 07:44 -0700
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:09 +0000
                                  Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-07 02:06 +0200
                                    Re: New Gravity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-07 07:14 -0700
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 14:19 +0000
                                      Re: New Gravity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-07 17:45 +0200
                        Re: New Gravity Theory Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-17 10:24 +0200
          Re: New Gravity Theory RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-26 13:08 -0700
            Re: New Gravity Theory Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:23 +0200
            Re: New Gravity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 13:38 -0700

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#417335

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-26 17:51 +0000
Message-ID<odqmn0$f5a$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#417305
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

>> This is how crackpots work:

>>   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.

Check. Ken never did understand SR and is apparently uninterested in learning
it.

>>   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
>>      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).

>The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the 
>inflation concept.

Check.

>>   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
>>      the perceived problem.

>Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe.

And a fine example of word salad.

> The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore 
>granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.

Stupid Ken, look up the definition of "original".  It doesn't mean "good",
it doesn't mean "correct", all it means is that you didn't copy your crap
from someone else.  Which would probably be impossible anyway, who else
could possibly come up with a complete failure as bad as Model Mechanics?

>>   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
>>      pat oneself on the back.

>Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems
>encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory

Good job at claiming your pseudo-science is superior to current science
and patting yourself on the back!

And Ken passes all four "crackpot" tests with flying colors!
Good job!

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#417345

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-26 12:30 -0700
Message-ID<1431e649-184b-48b0-808e-925d011cd3ee@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417305
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 5:55:10 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> > 
> > > Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> > >> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
> > >> Horizon Problem?
> > > 
> > > OK.
> > > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> > >  From where I quote:
> > >   <<
> > >    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
> > >    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
> > >    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
> > >    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
> > >    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
> > >    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
> > >    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
> > >    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
> > >    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
> > >   >>
> > > 
> > > Still no comment!
> > 
> > Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.
> 
> That's because your mind is empty.
> 
> > This is how crackpots work:
> > 
> >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> 
> Your understanding of science is hand waving.
> > 
> >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> 
> The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the inflation concept.
> > 
> >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> >      the perceived problem.
> 
> Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> 
> > 
> >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> >      pat oneself on the back.
> 
> Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory

It resolves NOTHING because you don't even know the basic of the science
you are trying to "solve". Without this knowledge you have NO CHANCE of being
even remotely correct.

Your text is just daydreaming.

--
Jan

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#417409

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-27 06:43 -0700
Message-ID<956f55e7-3610-42a9-974c-919793554707@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417345
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 5:55:10 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > > Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> > > >> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
> > > >> Horizon Problem?
> > > > 
> > > > OK.
> > > > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> > > >  From where I quote:
> > > >   <<
> > > >    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
> > > >    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
> > > >    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
> > > >    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
> > > >    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
> > > >    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
> > > >    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
> > > >    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
> > > >    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
> > > >   >>
> > > > 
> > > > Still no comment!
> > > 
> > > Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.
> > 
> > That's because your mind is empty.
> > 
> > > This is how crackpots work:
> > > 
> > >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > 
> > Your understanding of science is hand waving.
> > > 
> > >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> > >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > 
> > The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the inflation concept.
> > > 
> > >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> > >      the perceived problem.
> > 
> > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> > 
> > > 
> > >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> > >      pat oneself on the back.
> > 
> > Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory
> 
> It resolves NOTHING because you don't even know the basic of the science
> you are trying to "solve". Without this knowledge you have NO CHANCE of being
> even remotely correct.
> 
> Your text is just daydreaming.

ROFLOL, pot kettle black.
Your  math invention of 11 dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming.
Also constant light speed is another example......everything including light are sensitive to relative motion.

Model Mechanics has three observable dimensions and the speed of lights sensitive to relative motion. That's why it is a superior theory.

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#417451

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-27 13:02 -0700
Message-ID<d1d82f8f-4c30-4283-9152-cbcd48fe4188@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417409
On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 6:43:43 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 5:55:10 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > > > Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> > > > >> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
> > > > >> Horizon Problem?
> > > > > 
> > > > > OK.
> > > > > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> > > > >  From where I quote:
> > > > >   <<
> > > > >    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
> > > > >    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
> > > > >    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
> > > > >    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
> > > > >    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
> > > > >    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
> > > > >    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
> > > > >    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
> > > > >    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
> > > > >   >>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Still no comment!
> > > > 
> > > > Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.
> > > 
> > > That's because your mind is empty.
> > > 
> > > > This is how crackpots work:
> > > > 
> > > >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > > 
> > > Your understanding of science is hand waving.
> > > > 
> > > >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> > > >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > > 
> > > The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the inflation concept.
> > > > 
> > > >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> > > >      the perceived problem.
> > > 
> > > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> > > >      pat oneself on the back.
> > > 
> > > Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory
> > 
> > It resolves NOTHING because you don't even know the basic of the science
> > you are trying to "solve". Without this knowledge you have NO CHANCE of being
> > even remotely correct.
> > 
> > Your text is just daydreaming.
> 
> ROFLOL, pot kettle black.
> Your  math invention of 11 dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming.

Not even wrong, sorry. You confuse the mathematical details (11 or 26
dimensions) with the question whether such theories WORK. For example,
the standard 19th-century theory called "Hamiltonian mechanics" needs
a 12-dimensional "phase fluid" to describe the motion of just TWO
particles. The details of this correspondence are exactly the type
of thing you are missing and that's why you constantly run off the
road and CRASH. You mistake superficial details (like the number of
some dimensions in some model) for some sort of plausability that
exists only thanks to your ignorance.

If you knew anything, you wouldn't have wasted so much of your time
on COMPLETE NONSENSE.

> Also constant light speed is another example......everything including light are sensitive to relative motion.

Gobbledygook. You don't regret wasting your life away on garbage?

> Model Mechanics has three observable dimensions and the speed of lights sensitive to relative motion. That's why it is a superior theory.

Total nonsense. You have NO THEORY, just a worthless fantasy. Stop wasting
your time on this.

--
Jan

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#417473

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-27 14:53 -0700
Message-ID<36d42f5d-36b5-4b0b-b223-0b333a862d11@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417451
On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 4:02:04 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 6:43:43 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 5:55:10 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > > > > Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> > > > > >> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
> > > > > >> Horizon Problem?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> > > > > >  From where I quote:
> > > > > >   <<
> > > > > >    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
> > > > > >    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
> > > > > >    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
> > > > > >    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
> > > > > >    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
> > > > > >    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
> > > > > >    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
> > > > > >    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
> > > > > >    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
> > > > > >   >>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Still no comment!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.
> > > > 
> > > > That's because your mind is empty.
> > > > 
> > > > > This is how crackpots work:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > > > 
> > > > Your understanding of science is hand waving.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> > > > >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > > > 
> > > > The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the inflation concept.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> > > > >      the perceived problem.
> > > > 
> > > > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> > > > >      pat oneself on the back.
> > > > 
> > > > Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory
> > > 
> > > It resolves NOTHING because you don't even know the basic of the science
> > > you are trying to "solve". Without this knowledge you have NO CHANCE of being
> > > even remotely correct.
> > > 
> > > Your text is just daydreaming.
> > 
> > ROFLOL, pot kettle black.
> > Your  math invention of 11 dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming.
> 
> Not even wrong, sorry. You confuse the mathematical details (11 or 26
> dimensions) with the question whether such theories WORK.

Such theories do not work.....that's why there is no valid quantum theory of gravity.

> For example,
> the standard 19th-century theory called "Hamiltonian mechanics" needs
> a 12-dimensional "phase fluid" to describe the motion of just TWO
> particles. 

That's why Hamiltonian Mechanics is not a valid physical theory. Model mechanics need just three dimensions of space and one dimension of absolute time to describe the motion of two particles.

> The details of this correspondence are exactly the type
> of thing you are missing and that's why you constantly run off the
> road and CRASH. You mistake superficial details (like the number of
> some dimensions in some model) for some sort of plausability that
> exists only thanks to your ignorance.

Only three dimensions of space are observable. Other added dimensions are COMPLETELY NONSENSE.

> 
> If you knew anything, you wouldn't have wasted so much of your time
> on
> 
> > Also constant light speed is another example......everything including light are sensitive to relative motion.
> 
> Gobbledygook. You don't regret wasting your life away on garbage?
> 
> > Model Mechanics has three observable dimensions and the speed of lights sensitive to relative motion. That's why it is a superior theory.
> 
> Total nonsense. You have NO THEORY, just a worthless fantasy. Stop wasting
> your time on this.

MY THEORY OF GRAVITY IS COMPLETELY COMPATIBLE WITH ALL THE OTHER FORCES OF NATURE AND THUS THE UNIFICATION OF ALL THE FORCES OF NATURE BECOME FEASIBLE. EAT YOU HEART OUT.

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#417474

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-27 14:56 -0700
Message-ID<174ce92a-359f-4df3-9132-7025903abfa5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417473
On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 2:53:14 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 4:02:04 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 6:43:43 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 5:55:10 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > > > > > Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> > > > > > >> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
> > > > > > >> Horizon Problem?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> > > > > > >  From where I quote:
> > > > > > >   <<
> > > > > > >    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
> > > > > > >    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
> > > > > > >    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
> > > > > > >    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
> > > > > > >    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
> > > > > > >    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
> > > > > > >    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
> > > > > > >    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
> > > > > > >    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
> > > > > > >   >>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Still no comment!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's because your mind is empty.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > This is how crackpots work:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Your understanding of science is hand waving.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> > > > > >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the inflation concept.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> > > > > >      the perceived problem.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> > > > > >      pat oneself on the back.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory
> > > > 
> > > > It resolves NOTHING because you don't even know the basic of the science
> > > > you are trying to "solve". Without this knowledge you have NO CHANCE of being
> > > > even remotely correct.
> > > > 
> > > > Your text is just daydreaming.
> > > 
> > > ROFLOL, pot kettle black.
> > > Your  math invention of 11 dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming.
> > 
> > Not even wrong, sorry. You confuse the mathematical details (11 or 26
> > dimensions) with the question whether such theories WORK.
> 
> Such theories do not work.....that's why there is no valid quantum theory of gravity.

No, WRONG, the reason they don't work is NOT because "math invention of 11 
dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming", as you
put it.

> > For example,
> > the standard 19th-century theory called "Hamiltonian mechanics" needs
> > a 12-dimensional "phase fluid" to describe the motion of just TWO
> > particles. 
> 
> That's why Hamiltonian Mechanics is not a valid physical theory. 

We have nothing to discuss. The point remains you have nothing except
a lot of wasted time.

--
Jan

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#417542

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-28 05:37 -0700
Message-ID<c156a100-6f7e-4a5d-9895-f6287bb349e8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417474
On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 5:56:21 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 2:53:14 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 4:02:04 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 6:43:43 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 5:55:10 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > > > > > > Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> > > > > > > >> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
> > > > > > > >> Horizon Problem?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > > > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> > > > > > > >  From where I quote:
> > > > > > > >   <<
> > > > > > > >    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
> > > > > > > >    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
> > > > > > > >    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
> > > > > > > >    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
> > > > > > > >    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
> > > > > > > >    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
> > > > > > > >    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
> > > > > > > >    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
> > > > > > > >    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
> > > > > > > >   >>
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Still no comment!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That's because your mind is empty.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This is how crackpots work:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Your understanding of science is hand waving.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> > > > > > >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the inflation concept.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> > > > > > >      the perceived problem.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> > > > > > >      pat oneself on the back.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory
> > > > > 
> > > > > It resolves NOTHING because you don't even know the basic of the science
> > > > > you are trying to "solve". Without this knowledge you have NO CHANCE of being
> > > > > even remotely correct.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Your text is just daydreaming.
> > > > 
> > > > ROFLOL, pot kettle black.
> > > > Your  math invention of 11 dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming.
> > > 
> > > Not even wrong, sorry. You confuse the mathematical details (11 or 26
> > > dimensions) with the question whether such theories WORK.
> > 
> > Such theories do not work.....that's why there is no valid quantum theory of gravity.
> 
> No, WRONG, the reason they don't work is NOT because "math invention of 11 
> dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming", as you
> put it.

The reason they don't work because mathematicians' invented day dreaming models of 11 and 26 dimensions. If they restrict themselves to three dimensions of space and one dimension of absolute time they will be able to come up with a valid theory such as Model Mechanics.

The right way to do physics:
1. It is assumed that there is only one physical model of our universe.
2. Find this physical model using the Pyramid Technique (Chapter 2 of my book)
3. Develop the necessary math based on this physical model or see if this physical model can be use to explain all the valid math developed so far.
4. Do the experiments that can verify this physical model.
5. The end result is Model Mechanics.

>  
> > > For example,
> > > the standard 19th-century theory called "Hamiltonian mechanics" needs
> > > a 12-dimensional "phase fluid" to describe the motion of just TWO
> > > particles. 
> > 
> > That's why Hamiltonian Mechanics is not a valid physical theory. 
> 
> We have nothing to discuss. The point remains you have nothing except
> a lot of wasted time.

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#417606

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-28 16:44 -0700
Message-ID<93c3face-d0f9-4c4f-93c3-7b6485e18822@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417542
On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 5:37:15 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 5:56:21 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 2:53:14 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 4:02:04 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 6:43:43 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 5:55:10 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > > > > > > > Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> > > > > > > > >> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
> > > > > > > > >> Horizon Problem?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > > > > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> > > > > > > > >  From where I quote:
> > > > > > > > >   <<
> > > > > > > > >    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
> > > > > > > > >    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
> > > > > > > > >    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
> > > > > > > > >    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
> > > > > > > > >    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
> > > > > > > > >    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
> > > > > > > > >    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
> > > > > > > > >    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
> > > > > > > > >    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
> > > > > > > > >   >>
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Still no comment!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That's because your mind is empty.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > This is how crackpots work:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Your understanding of science is hand waving.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> > > > > > > >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the inflation concept.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> > > > > > > >      the perceived problem.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> > > > > > > >      pat oneself on the back.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It resolves NOTHING because you don't even know the basic of the science
> > > > > > you are trying to "solve". Without this knowledge you have NO CHANCE of being
> > > > > > even remotely correct.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Your text is just daydreaming.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ROFLOL, pot kettle black.
> > > > > Your  math invention of 11 dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming.
> > > > 
> > > > Not even wrong, sorry. You confuse the mathematical details (11 or 26
> > > > dimensions) with the question whether such theories WORK.
> > > 
> > > Such theories do not work.....that's why there is no valid quantum theory of gravity.
> > 
> > No, WRONG, the reason they don't work is NOT because "math invention of 11 
> > dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming", as you
> > put it.
> 
> The reason they don't work because mathematicians' invented day dreaming models of 11 and 26 dimensions.

No, that's NOT the reason. The reason has nothing to do with how exotic
the theory may or may not appear or how many dimensions it has in some
model, etc. etc.

You won't get ANYWHERE with this if you avoid difficult mathematics and
simply designate stuff you decide not to study as "dreaming".

--
Jan

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#417635

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-29 06:47 -0700
Message-ID<b0727c27-0719-4996-90e6-3671697f8515@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417606
On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 7:44:30 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 5:37:15 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 5:56:21 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 2:53:14 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 4:02:04 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 6:43:43 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 5:55:10 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:29:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Den 19.04.2017 22.19, skrev kenseto:
> > > > > > > > > >> Paul why did you leave out the part how Model Mechanics explains the
> > > > > > > > > >> Horizon Problem?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> > > > > > > > > >  From where I quote:
> > > > > > > > > >   <<
> > > > > > > > > >    Model Mechanics explains the horizon problem naturally without
> > > > > > > > > >    resorting to the ad hoc Inflation hypothesis. The earth is in
> > > > > > > > > >    a state of absolute motion in the E-Matrix. This motion curves
> > > > > > > > > >    the E-Strings  surrounding the earth. What we perceive as normal
> > > > > > > > > >    and straight E-Strings are actually severely curved E-Strings.
> > > > > > > > > >    In other words, when we look up in the sky we are actually
> > > > > > > > > >    receiving light from these curved E-Strings. This means that
> > > > > > > > > >    no matter what direction we look we are looking into the same
> > > > > > > > > >    curved E-Strings and thus the same region of the universe.
> > > > > > > > > >   >>
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Still no comment!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Indeed, other than “Not even wrong” nothing comes to mind.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > That's because your mind is empty.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > This is how crackpots work:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >   1. Misunderstand current science due to lack of knowledge and interest.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Your understanding of science is hand waving.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >   2. Claim an unsolved, actually non-existing, problem within current
> > > > > > > > >      science (bonus points for using fancy labels).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The Horizon problem exits and the problem was resolved by inventing the inflation concept.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >   3. Come up with pseudo-scientific word salad to seemingly solve
> > > > > > > > >      the perceived problem.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Model Mechanics is a real proposed scientific thereof the universe. The reviewer at the Copy Right Office said it's original and therefore granted the copy-right. So eat your heart out.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >   4. Claim that the pseudo-science is superior to current science and
> > > > > > > > >      pat oneself on the back.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Idiot.....The physical model of Model Mechanics resolved all the problems encountered by current theories and therefore it is a superior theory
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It resolves NOTHING because you don't even know the basic of the science
> > > > > > > you are trying to "solve". Without this knowledge you have NO CHANCE of being
> > > > > > > even remotely correct.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Your text is just daydreaming.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ROFLOL, pot kettle black.
> > > > > > Your  math invention of 11 dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Not even wrong, sorry. You confuse the mathematical details (11 or 26
> > > > > dimensions) with the question whether such theories WORK.
> > > > 
> > > > Such theories do not work.....that's why there is no valid quantum theory of gravity.
> > > 
> > > No, WRONG, the reason they don't work is NOT because "math invention of 11 
> > > dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples of day dreaming", as you
> > > put it.
> > 
> > The reason they don't work because mathematicians' invented day dreaming models of 11 and 26 dimensions.
> 
> No, that's NOT the reason. The reason has nothing to do with how exotic
> the theory may or may not appear or how many dimensions it has in some
> model, etc. etc.

Yes, that's exactly the reason. You mathematicians keep on inventing non-existing math object to describe the physical universe. That's the reason why you failed to come up with a quantum theory of gravity. What nature is telling you that exchanging of gravitons will not lead to a valid theory of gravity. Why? Because gravity is the combined result of an attractive  electromagnetic force and a repulsive CRE force between the interacting objects.

> 
> You won't get ANYWHERE with this if you avoid difficult mathematics and
> simply designate stuff you decide not to study as "dreaming".

You won't get any where if you keep on doing math alone.......you need to first come up with a physical model of the universe then develop the math based on that physical model. As it turns out the physical model of Model Mechanics can be used to explain all the successful math developed so far. 

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#417648

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-29 10:11 -0500
Message-ID<oe2af2$rl9$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417542
On 4/28/17 7:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
> The right way to do physics:

Bullshit.
This is YOUR idea of doing physics, which has nothing whatsoever to do 
with how physics is done in the real world. If it is your claim that you 
intend to reinvent the scientific method itself, then take it to a 
philosophy forum.

> 1. It is assumed that there is only one physical model of our universe.
> 2. Find this physical model using the Pyramid Technique (Chapter 2 of my book)
> 3. Develop the necessary math based on this physical model or see if this physical model can be use to explain all the valid math developed so far.
> 4. Do the experiments that can verify this physical model.
> 5. The end result is Model Mechanics.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417710

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-04-30 07:49 -0700
Message-ID<a35d4396-e6c9-44a5-b2b5-3cece6cfd225@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417648
On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/28/17 7:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > The right way to do physics:
> 
> Bullshit.
> This is YOUR idea of doing physics, which has nothing whatsoever to do 
> with how physics is done in the real world. If it is your claim that you 
> intend to reinvent the scientific method itself, then take it to a 
> philosophy forum.

It is much easier to find the ONE physical model of our universe than to invent a zoo of mathematical objects to describe the universe.
> 
> > 1. It is assumed that there is only one physical model of our universe.
> > 2. Find this physical model using the Pyramid Technique (Chapter 2 of my book)
> > 3. Develop the necessary math based on this physical model or see if this physical model can be use to explain all the valid math developed so far.
> > 4. Do the experiments that can verify this physical model.
> > 5. The end result is Model Mechanics.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417764

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 07:59 -0500
Message-ID<oe7bfh$j47$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417710
On 4/30/17 9:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/28/17 7:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> The right way to do physics:
>>
>> Bullshit.
>> This is YOUR idea of doing physics, which has nothing whatsoever to do
>> with how physics is done in the real world. If it is your claim that you
>> intend to reinvent the scientific method itself, then take it to a
>> philosophy forum.
> 
> It is much easier to find the ONE physical model of our universe than to invent a zoo of mathematical objects to describe the universe.

Ken, you are still trying to reinvent the scientific method.
You are still trying to claim that simpler is always better.
If what you said were true, then someone would simply come up and 
announce that "1" was everything, and that everything was "1". It cannot 
get simpler, and yours would be lost in the dust by your own standard.

>>
>>> 1. It is assumed that there is only one physical model of our universe.
>>> 2. Find this physical model using the Pyramid Technique (Chapter 2 of my book)
>>> 3. Develop the necessary math based on this physical model or see if this physical model can be use to explain all the valid math developed so far.
>>> 4. Do the experiments that can verify this physical model.
>>> 5. The end result is Model Mechanics.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417797

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2017-05-01 11:56 -0700
Message-ID<0f356f9e-14e2-4a72-9604-ca5056f86e70@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417764
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 8:59:32 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/30/17 9:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 4/28/17 7:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> The right way to do physics:
> >>
> >> Bullshit.
> >> This is YOUR idea of doing physics, which has nothing whatsoever to do
> >> with how physics is done in the real world. If it is your claim that you
> >> intend to reinvent the scientific method itself, then take it to a
> >> philosophy forum.
> > 
> > It is much easier to find the ONE physical model of our universe than to invent a zoo of mathematical objects to describe the universe.
> 
> Ken, you are still trying to reinvent the scientific method.
> You are still trying to claim that simpler is always better.
> If what you said were true, then someone would simply come up and 
> announce that "1" was everything, and that everything was "1". It cannot 
> get simpler, and yours would be lost in the dust by your own standard.

There is no reinvention....physicists have been using physical model to to physics for centuries. for the past hundred years or so they let the mathematicians take over and they run wild inventing non-physical mathematics objects to explain the universe. the end result is a complex dead end such as the string theories.
The physical model of Model Mechanics resolves all the problems. It is a superior way of doing physics.


> 
> >>
> >>> 1. It is assumed that there is only one physical model of our universe.
> >>> 2. Find this physical model using the Pyramid Technique (Chapter 2 of my book)
> >>> 3. Develop the necessary math based on this physical model or see if this physical model can be use to explain all the valid math developed so far.
> >>> 4. Do the experiments that can verify this physical model.
> >>> 5. The end result is Model Mechanics.
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417803

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 14:20 -0500
Message-ID<oe81pi$1vlu$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417797
On 5/1/17 1:56 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 8:59:32 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/30/17 9:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 4/28/17 7:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> The right way to do physics:
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>> This is YOUR idea of doing physics, which has nothing whatsoever to do
>>>> with how physics is done in the real world. If it is your claim that you
>>>> intend to reinvent the scientific method itself, then take it to a
>>>> philosophy forum.
>>>
>>> It is much easier to find the ONE physical model of our universe than to invent a zoo of mathematical objects to describe the universe.
>>
>> Ken, you are still trying to reinvent the scientific method.
>> You are still trying to claim that simpler is always better.
>> If what you said were true, then someone would simply come up and
>> announce that "1" was everything, and that everything was "1". It cannot
>> get simpler, and yours would be lost in the dust by your own standard.
> 
> There is no reinvention....physicists have been using physical model to to physics for centuries. 

No, they have not, Ken. This is strictly a perception from your lack of 
education. Mathematics has been heart and soul to mathematics since 
Galileo and Newton. Because you have never LEARNED physics, you are 
ignorant of this fact.

The notion of a FIELD, for example, has been around for 160 years. A 
field is not a physical substance or material.

Energy has been studied as a vital part of physics for centuries. Energy 
is not a substance, it is not material.

> for the past hundred years or so they let the mathematicians take over and they run wild inventing  > non-physical mathematics objects to explain the universe. the end 
result is a complex dead end such as the string theories.
> The physical model of Model Mechanics resolves all the problems. It is a superior way of doing physics.

No, Ken, it is not superior. It is what you WANT physics to be about, 
but those things that are aligned with what you WANT are not superior.

What is true of you is the same thing that is true of Ed Lake. You do 
not LIKE mathematics. You are incompetent at mathematics, and you do not 
want to learn it. And so you attempt to dismiss the importance of 
mathematics in physics, saying that REAL physics does not need math. But 
that is a LIE that you are speaking, based purely on your desires and 
emotional needs.

> 
> 
>>
>>>>
>>>>> 1. It is assumed that there is only one physical model of our universe.
>>>>> 2. Find this physical model using the Pyramid Technique (Chapter 2 of my book)
>>>>> 3. Develop the necessary math based on this physical model or see if this physical model can be use to explain all the valid math developed so far.
>>>>> 4. Do the experiments that can verify this physical model.
>>>>> 5. The end result is Model Mechanics.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables


-- 
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#417805

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 14:23 -0500
Message-ID<oe820a$1vlu$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417803
On 5/1/17 2:20 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 5/1/17 1:56 PM, kenseto wrote:
>> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 8:59:32 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 4/30/17 9:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> On 4/28/17 7:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>> The right way to do physics:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>> This is YOUR idea of doing physics, which has nothing whatsoever to do
>>>>> with how physics is done in the real world. If it is your claim 
>>>>> that you
>>>>> intend to reinvent the scientific method itself, then take it to a
>>>>> philosophy forum.
>>>>
>>>> It is much easier to find the ONE physical model of our universe 
>>>> than to invent a zoo of mathematical objects to describe the universe.
>>>
>>> Ken, you are still trying to reinvent the scientific method.
>>> You are still trying to claim that simpler is always better.
>>> If what you said were true, then someone would simply come up and
>>> announce that "1" was everything, and that everything was "1". It cannot
>>> get simpler, and yours would be lost in the dust by your own standard.
>>
>> There is no reinvention....physicists have been using physical model 
>> to to physics for centuries. 
> 
> No, they have not, Ken. This is strictly a perception from your lack of 
> education. Mathematics has been heart and soul to mathematics 

Mathematics has been heart and soul to physics....

> since 
> Galileo and Newton. Because you have never LEARNED physics, you are 
> ignorant of this fact.
> 
> The notion of a FIELD, for example, has been around for 160 years. A 
> field is not a physical substance or material.
> 
> Energy has been studied as a vital part of physics for centuries. Energy 
> is not a substance, it is not material.
> 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417845

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-05-01 22:41 -0700
Message-ID<fdef81d0-7dcd-44ad-87b2-c80e73fcb72e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417803
W dniu poniedziałek, 1 maja 2017 21:20:21 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:

> No, they have not, Ken. This is strictly a perception from your lack of 
> education. Mathematics has been heart and soul to mathematics since 
> Galileo and Newton. Because you have never LEARNED physics, you are 
> ignorant of this fact.

Speking of mathematics, it's always good to remind
that your idiot guru has rejected it's oldest and
second most succesful part, just because "common
sense is a set of prejudices".

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#417879

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-02 14:11 -0500
Message-ID<oeallt$c2d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417845
On 5/2/17 12:41 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu poniedziałek, 1 maja 2017 21:20:21 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> 
>> No, they have not, Ken. This is strictly a perception from your lack of
>> education. Mathematics has been heart and soul to mathematics since
>> Galileo and Newton. Because you have never LEARNED physics, you are
>> ignorant of this fact.
> 
> Speking of mathematics, it's always good to remind
> that your idiot guru has rejected it's oldest and
> second most succesful part, just because "common
> sense is a set of prejudices".
> 

Where did you learn that common sense and intuition are a vital part of 
physics?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#417887

FromRichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
Date2017-05-02 12:25 -0700
Message-ID<60c8b8a0-cec4-4984-9a27-16befddac572@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417879
On May 2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 5/2/17, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>> it's always good to remind
>> that your idiot guru has rejected it's oldest and
>> second most succesful part, just because "common
>> sense is a set of prejudices".
> 
> Where did you learn that common sense and intuition are a vital part of 
> physics?

Ed Lake and Kevin Aylward, tenured faculty, U. sci.phy.relativity

--
Rich

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#417938

From"Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk>
Date2017-05-03 07:47 +0100
Message-ID<7eadnV-zo7Gb4JTEnZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#417879
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Odd Bodkin Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 8:11 PM Newsgroups: 
>sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: New Gravity Theory

On 5/2/17 12:41 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu poniedziałek, 1 maja 2017 21:20:21 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin 
> napisał:
>
>> No, they have not, Ken. This is strictly a perception from your lack of
>> education. Mathematics has been heart and soul to mathematics since
>> Galileo and Newton. Because you have never LEARNED physics, you are
>> ignorant of this fact.
>
> Speking of mathematics, it's always good to remind
> that your idiot guru has rejected it's oldest and
> second most succesful part, just because "common
> sense is a set of prejudices".
>

>Where did you learn that common sense and intuition are a vital part of 
>physics?

In practice, they seem to be, despite "intuition" not appearing in any 
Physics course syllabus. Its on the same par of "consciousness", which is 
clearly a requirement for doing physics in the real world, also not on the 
syllabus.

I think one would be hard pressed to convince anyone that people like 
Feynman, Einstein, Plank, Dirac etc.. etc... had no intuition to guide them. 
Of course, that does not imply that "common sense" does not lead one astray 
at times.

Kevin Aylward
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html 

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#417548

From"Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk>
Date2017-04-28 14:18 +0100
Message-ID<1MSdnSEsjqOO3J7EnZ2dnUU7-V_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#417451
"JanPB"  wrote in message 
news:d1d82f8f-4c30-4283-9152-cbcd48fe4188@googlegroups.com...


> > Your text is just daydreaming.
>
> ROFLOL, pot kettle black.
> Your  math invention of 11 dimensions or 26 dimensions are prime examples 
> of day dreaming.

>Not even wrong, sorry. You confuse the mathematical details (11 or 26
>dimensions) with the question whether such theories WORK.

The use of the word "dimension" by mathematicians is arbitrary, and somewhat 
akin to newspeak. All that there is, is that a phenomena being represented 
by a set of say, 11 numbers, or 26 numbers. There is nothing that leads to 
any deduction that the must be any real physical correspondence to those 
numbers. Without physical evidence, these alleged dimensions, are no more 
than a convenient calculation tool.

I can plot pretty much any set of information on a graph, like $ dollars, it 
don't mean that money is "geometry", hint Tom Roberts :-)

I see a fundamental problem in the obvious. Mathematicians are truly not 
engineers. They really don't  understand the difference between mathematical 
inventions, and physical inventions. One only exists in the mind, the other, 
can, on occasions, actually generate, money.

-- Kevin Aylward
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/index.html 

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