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A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries.

Started by"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
First post2017-04-02 09:11 +1000
Last post2017-04-25 08:59 +1000
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  A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-02 09:11 +1000
    Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 00:46 +0000
      Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-03 12:07 +1000
    Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-02 10:14 +0200
      Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-02 12:55 +0000
      Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-03 12:02 +1000
        Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-03 10:04 +0200
        Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-03 14:36 +0000
          Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-03 08:47 -0700
            Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-03 12:44 -0700
              Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 15:28 -0500
                Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-03 22:09 +0000
                Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-03 23:11 -0700
              Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-03 22:04 +0000
    Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-03 17:12 -0500
      Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-04-03 16:44 -0700
        non-coordinate basis (was: Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries.) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-04 21:28 -0500
          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-05 20:54 +1000
            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 08:38 -0500
              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 09:24 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 18:56 -0500
            Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 21:57 -0500
              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 08:58 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-10 11:48 -0500
                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 08:50 +1000
                    Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 07:51 -0500
                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:35 +1000
                        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 17:46 -0500
                          Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:39 +0100
                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:30 +1000
                            Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 09:38 +0100
                              Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 02:05 -0700
                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:08 +1000
                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:56 +0100
                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-16 08:24 +1000
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-16 09:49 +0200
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:22 +1000
                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-17 11:07 +0200
                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 08:55 +1000
                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-18 10:22 +0200
                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:28 +1000
                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-19 09:51 +0200
                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:39 +1000
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 17:24 -0700
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:19 +1000
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 05:05 -0700
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:43 +1000
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 20:19 -0700
                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:57 +1000
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-23 21:20 -0700
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 18:10 +1000
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 05:31 -0700
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-24 05:58 -0700
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 08:58 +1000
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 06:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 17:58 +1000
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:30 -0700
                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:13 +1000
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 21:30 -0500
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:14 +1000
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 01:23 -0700
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-29 08:54 +1000
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 14:00 -0700
                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 09:34 +1000
                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:55 -0500
                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:10 +1000
                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:58 -0500
                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:33 +1000
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:59 -0500
                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:12 +1000
                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:25 -0500
                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:24 +1000
                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-04 11:40 +0200
                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:41 -0500
                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:05 +0100
                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 14:03 -0500
                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:09 +1000
                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:30 -0500
                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:03 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 08:58 +1000
                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:00 +0100
                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 15:20 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 23:09 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 15:59 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 09:10 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 08:01 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:01 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:02 -0500
                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 11:02 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-11 19:58 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-11 19:25 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 11:31 +1000
                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-11 18:56 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-13 07:50 +1000
                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-13 09:47 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:29 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:43 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-13 02:39 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:32 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:48 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 00:13 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-16 19:51 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 05:34 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:30 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 20:39 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:32 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:33 +0100
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-26 15:23 +0200
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-27 09:50 +1000
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-27 13:44 +0200
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:32 +1000
                                                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-19 15:30 +0000
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:27 +0100
                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:07 -0500
                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 21:22 +0100
                                Re: non-coordinate basis Heki Entouba <buububu@enou3eh.ac> - 2017-04-13 20:34 +0000
                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 10:42 +0100
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:34 +0000
                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:53 +0200
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:39 +0000
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 17:06 +0200
                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 15:28 +0000
                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 15:31 +0000
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:56 +0100
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 23:26 +0000
                                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:47 +0200
                                  Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-14 03:55 -0700
                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:38 -0500
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 10:57 -0500
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:08 +0000
                                      "How nature works" vs model making Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 21:58 -0500
                                        Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-26 22:48 -0700
                                          Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 14:18 +0100
                                            Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 06:40 -0700
                                              Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 20:49 +0100
                                                Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 14:55 -0700
                                                  Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-29 21:42 +0100
                                        Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:28 +0100
                                        Re: "How nature works" vs model making Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:59 -0500
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:07 +0000
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 14:01 -0500
                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 19:25 +0000
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 20:01 +0200
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 18:07 +0000
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-20 14:09 -0700
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-21 14:14 -0700
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 21:39 +0000
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 23:43 +0200
                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 22:03 +0000
                                        Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-22 01:08 -0700
                                        Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 15:42 -0700
            Re: non-coordinate basis Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 18:37 -0500
              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:35 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 20:30 -0500
                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:38 +1000
          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 08:33 -0500
            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 09:21 +1000
              Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 18:45 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 05:52 +1000
                  Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:06 -0500
                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 06:21 +1000
                      Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:33 -0500
                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 09:05 +1000
                          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 07:27 -0500
                            Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-07 06:32 -0700
                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 09:06 +1000
                                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-07 20:28 -0700
                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:17 +1000
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-08 20:19 -0700
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:37 +1000
                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 09:09 +1000
                              Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 18:12 -0500
                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 10:13 +1000
                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 19:44 -0500
                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:23 +1000
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-09 01:35 +0200
                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 11:04 +1000
                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 13:39 -0500
                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Kimberli Mafalda Rotenberry <uetbbe@werrirroeb.ie> - 2017-04-09 19:19 +0000
                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:39 +1000
                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:09 -0500
                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Jolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou> - 2017-04-10 17:03 +0000
                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 08:55 +1000
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Jolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou> - 2017-04-11 11:23 +0000
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:41 +1000
                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:46 +1000
                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:11 -0500
                                                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-10 06:18 -0700
                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 09:03 +1000
                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 07:59 -0500
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:06 +1000
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 15:41 -0700
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 17:45 -0500
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:40 +1000
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:00 -0500
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:41 +1000
                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-14 01:45 +0200
                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:30 -0500
                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-14 16:19 +0000
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-14 12:14 -0700
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:08 +1000
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 12:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 07:27 -0700
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:13 +1000
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 18:53 -0700
                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:38 +1000
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 10:44 +1000
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 12:31 +0000
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:16 +1000
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:30 +0000
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:33 +0000
                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:42 +1000
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 12:36 -0500
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 17:15 -0500
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:50 +1000
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 21:44 -0500
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-12 20:16 -0700
                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:50 +1000
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:20 -0700
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:11 +1000
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-16 18:24 -0700
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:19 +1000
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:34 +0000
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 20:14 -0700
                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:48 +1000
                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:22 +0100
                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-19 15:35 +0000
                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:58 -0700
                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:19 +1000
                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 06:06 -0700
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:44 +1000
                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:43 -0500
                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 21:28 +0100
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis physics.interuptus@gmail.com - 2017-04-20 14:00 -0700
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:48 +1000
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:45 +1000
                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 13:33 -0500
                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:50 +1000
                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:12 -0500
                                          Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 08:42 -0700
                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 09:07 +1000
                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 17:18 -0700
                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 10:54 +1000
                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 18:36 -0700
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:09 +1000
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 15:44 -0700
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 10:36 +1000
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 04:21 -0700
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-12 04:56 -0700
                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:37 +0100
                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +1000
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +0200
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 00:35 -0700
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 09:40 +0100
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 15:27 +0200
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 06:32 -0700
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 09:12 -0700
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 20:59 +0100
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:06 +0200
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:06 +0200
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:57 +0100
                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 23:12 +0200
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 11:36 +0100
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 13:33 +0200
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-15 12:10 +0000
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 14:14 +0200
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Iwakitok Yuu <yauuu@ikwuo.wk> - 2017-04-15 12:58 +0000
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 08:17 +0200
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:48 +0100
                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:18 +0200
                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:10 +0100
                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:10 +0200
                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:41 +0100
                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:40 +0200
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:30 +0100
                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:33 +0200
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 10:59 +0200
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-16 02:35 -0700
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 14:39 +0100
                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:41 +0200
                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:14 +0100
                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-17 05:55 -0700
                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:13 +0100
                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-17 15:16 +0000
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:49 +0100
                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-18 06:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:25 +0000
                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:06 +0200
                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 15:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:57 +0200
                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 18:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:50 +0100
                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-19 04:20 -0700
                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:14 +0200
                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:55 +0100
                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:37 +0200
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 00:55 +0200
                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:20 +0100
                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:31 +0200
                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 22:02 +0200
                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:24 +1000
                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-19 17:56 -0700
                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 10:01 +1000
                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 17:32 -0700
                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-21 10:43 -0500
                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 11:13 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:30 +1000
                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:19 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:47 +1000
                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:30 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:07 +1000
                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:24 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-27 09:26 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:22 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:21 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:27 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:41 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:46 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 13:16 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-29 21:49 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 22:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-30 10:23 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 08:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:08 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 17:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 13:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 21:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:23 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:47 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:42 +1000
                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 20:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 07:49 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 18:58 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:48 +1000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:25 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:37 +1000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-10 21:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-10 20:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-06 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:51 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 11:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 00:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 03:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 10:48 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:56 +1000
                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 12:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 11:00 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 21:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 12:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-08 06:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:41 +1000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-09 11:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 04:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-08 09:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:48 +1000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-10 17:59 +1000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:08 +0200
                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 17:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:23 +1000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:47 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 11:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 10:23 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-13 19:43 +1000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-10 20:50 +0200
                                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:26 +1000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 18:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-11 10:56 +0200
                                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:46 +1000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 20:02 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:55 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-14 10:29 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-14 20:16 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-15 13:42 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-16 20:06 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-17 08:24 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 02:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:28 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-18 17:39 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-19 09:48 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:16 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 04:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 21:19 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 05:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-17 05:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:17 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:08 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:38 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:49 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:01 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-30 11:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 16:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 13:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:41 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:36 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:33 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 10:02 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-30 20:20 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:21 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 04:42 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 14:04 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 20:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 18:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:10 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:10 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:18 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 21:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:51 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:12 +1000
                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-03 04:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:16 +1000
                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:18 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:22 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 04:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:41 +1000
                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 19:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:29 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:09 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:19 +1000
                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:07 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:30 +1000
                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 01:39 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-29 08:52 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 16:11 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:31 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:48 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:27 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 17:54 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:56 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:54 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:54 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:55 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:14 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:13 +1000
                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:39 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 09:11 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:57 +1000
                                                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:08 +1000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 07:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-09 09:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 08:45 -0700
                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 17:53 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:22 +1000
                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:28 +1000
                                                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:31 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:49 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 17:13 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:55 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:48 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:19 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 18:34 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:25 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:17 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:32 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:31 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:09 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:26 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
                                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-18 23:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 11:13 +0200
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:49 +0100
                                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:49 +0200
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-16 11:24 -0500
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 18:46 +0100
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Okoto Laki <tuuuknu@wnoowow.to> - 2017-04-16 18:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:09 +0100
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:48 -0500
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-13 13:55 +0000
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:46 -0500
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 11:08 +1000
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 18:49 -0700
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:15 +1000
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-16 18:30 -0700
                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:24 +1000
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 17:34 -0700
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:51 +1000
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:48 -0500
                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-16 11:09 -0500
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 18:48 +0100
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis Okoto Laki <tuuuknu@wnoowow.to> - 2017-04-16 18:40 +0000
                                              Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 18:56 -0700
                                              Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 18:59 -0700
                                                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:16 +1000
                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-11 20:35 -0700
                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 09:09 +1000
                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-12 18:26 -0700
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 18:46 -0700
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 05:05 -0700
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 05:26 -0700
                                                              Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 20:36 +0100
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-13 19:09 -0700
                                                                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 23:35 -0700
                                                                  Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 10:43 +0100
                                                                    Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-14 03:29 -0700
                                                                      Re: non-coordinate basis John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-21 18:59 -0700
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 11:17 +1000
                                                        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 11:10 +1000
                                                          Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 22:08 -0700
                                                            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:18 +1000
                      Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-09 09:28 +0100
            Re: non-coordinate basis sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-04-06 12:57 -0700
              Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:09 -0500
            Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 22:25 -0500
      Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-04 14:23 +1000
        Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-04 15:38 +0000
          Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-05 19:58 +1000
            Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-05 14:55 +0000
              Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 08:45 +1000
        Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 22:37 -0500
          Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:37 +1000
    Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-22 20:29 +1000
      Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-22 04:58 -0700
      Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 10:10 +1000
        Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-23 10:14 +1000
          Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:51 +1000
            Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-24 14:50 +0000
              Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 08:59 +1000

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#415678 — Re: non-coordinate basis

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-04-10 11:39 +1000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocenol$1h12$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415641
On 10/04/17 05:19, Kimberli Mafalda Rotenberry wrote:
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
>>> Colinear speeds add arithmetically for the simple reason that dx/dt +
>>> dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt.
>>
>> Do you see the mistake here? dt in one frame is not the same as dt' in
>> another frame.
>
> Actually he can't do that anyway, since dx and dy are like apple and
> oranges.

....x and y are two velocities, idiot! They aren't the usual spatial axes




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#415694 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-10 08:09 -0500
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocg06g$1n96$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415678
On 4/9/2017 8:39 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
> On 10/04/17 05:19, Kimberli Mafalda Rotenberry wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>
>>>> Colinear speeds add arithmetically for the simple reason that dx/dt +
>>>> dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt.
>>>
>>> Do you see the mistake here? dt in one frame is not the same as dt' in
>>> another frame.
>>
>> Actually he can't do that anyway, since dx and dy are like apple and
>> oranges.
>
> ....x and y are two velocities, idiot! They aren't the usual spatial axes

No, Henry. dx/dt and dy/dt' are velocities. Good grief.


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#415736 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromJolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou>
Date2017-04-10 17:03 +0000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocgdsk$fbe$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415678
HGW... DSc. wrote:

>>>> Colinear speeds add arithmetically for the simple reason that dx/dt +
>>>> dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt.
>>>
>>> Do you see the mistake here? dt in one frame is not the same as dt' in
>>> another frame.
>>
>> Actually he can't do that anyway, since dx and dy are like apple and
>> oranges.
> 
> ....x and y are two velocities, idiot! They aren't the usual spatial
> axes

Dr. HGW, many half-engineers suffer from this malady,an unforgivable 
mistake. Those are orthogonal distinct magnitudes. Not only this, but when 
you apply the operator d/dt on them then those becomes individual 
differences, which by division becomes speeds(distinctly), or velocities 
when taken together as addition. Hence, you just learned that adding x and 
y is imbecility, since those are different magnitudes along those 
orthogonal axes.

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#415793 — Re: non-coordinate basis

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-04-11 08:55 +1000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<och2gv$1gcq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415736
On 11/04/17 03:03, Jolie Osokuro wrote:
> HGW... DSc. wrote:
>
>>>>> Colinear speeds add arithmetically for the simple reason that dx/dt +
>>>>> dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt.
>>>>
>>>> Do you see the mistake here? dt in one frame is not the same as dt' in
>>>> another frame.
>>>
>>> Actually he can't do that anyway, since dx and dy are like apple and
>>> oranges.
>>
>> ....x and y are two velocities, idiot! They aren't the usual spatial
>> axes
>
> Dr. HGW, many half-engineers suffer from this malady,an unforgivable
> mistake. Those are orthogonal distinct magnitudes. Not only this, but when
> you apply the operator d/dt on them then those becomes individual
> differences, which by division becomes speeds(distinctly), or velocities
> when taken together as addition. Hence, you just learned that adding x and
> y is imbecility, since those are different magnitudes along those
> orthogonal axes.

Poor fellow. When I said dx/dt + dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt, I was generalizing. 
If you think the identity is wrong, then you have proved yourself to be 
an idiot.

If you apply that to co-linear speeds, you naturally use dv/dt and du/dt 
or something of that nature.



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#415853 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromJolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou>
Date2017-04-11 11:23 +0000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ociebl$1a1j$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415793
HGW... DSc. wrote:

>> Dr. HGW, many half-engineers suffer from this malady,an unforgivable
>> mistake. Those are orthogonal distinct magnitudes. Not only this, but
>> when you apply the operator d/dt on them then those becomes individual
>> differences, which by division becomes speeds(distinctly), or
>> velocities when taken together as addition. Hence, you just learned
>> that adding x and y is imbecility, since those are different magnitudes
>> along those orthogonal axes.
> 
> Poor fellow. When I said dx/dt + dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt, I was generalizing.
> If you think the identity is wrong, then you have proved yourself to be
> an idiot.

Hmm, I am so depressed. You seemingly are just as stupid as your half-
engineers friends, morony and thomas pointedhead. dx and dy are distinct 
orthogonal differences. Your stupid d(x+y) would be along which direction. 
Outputs no info. A dx is NOT the same as a x, doctor. Infact an x alone 
makes no any sense. You just proved you never had modelling in Physics.

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#415964 — Re: non-coordinate basis

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-04-12 07:41 +1000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocjiim$1bjk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415853
On 11/04/17 21:23, Jolie Osokuro wrote:
> HGW... DSc. wrote:
>
>>
>> Poor fellow. When I said dx/dt + dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt, I was generalizing.
>> If you think the identity is wrong, then you have proved yourself to be
>> an idiot.
>
> Hmm, I am so depressed. You seemingly are just as stupid as your half-
> engineers friends, morony and thomas pointedhead. dx and dy are distinct
> orthogonal differences. Your stupid d(x+y) would be along which direction.
> Outputs no info. A dx is NOT the same as a x, doctor. Infact an x alone
> makes no any sense. You just proved you never had modelling in Physics.

You are typical of a person who is trying to walk before he can crawl.

Basic calculus does not assign particular meanings to symbols.



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#415679 — Re: non-coordinate basis

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-04-10 11:46 +1000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<oceo4s$1ht9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415633
On 10/04/17 04:39, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/8/2017 8:04 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>> A)...the very definition of a 'frame of reference', which is essentially
>> a speed reference.
>
> No definition I've ever seen makes a frame of reference a speed
> reference. Have you just fabricated one?
>
>> Colinear speeds add arithmetically for the simple reason that dx/dt +
>> dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt.
>
> Do you see the mistake here? dt in one frame is not the same as dt' in
> another frame.

HAHAHHHAHHAHHHHHHHAAA! I see no point in trying to argue with an 
indoctrinated  fool who still believes that kind of nonsense.

> The speed of an object in reference frame S is dx/dt. The speed of the
> origin of S in S' is dy/dt'. But you can't just take dx/dt + dy/dt' =
> d(x+y)/dt to find the speed of the object in S', because dt' and dt are
> not the same.

Of course they are...except in Einstein's SciFi universe..

> So the ABUSE of arithmetic would have you use dy/dt' = dy/dt, but
> there's the Galilean assumption that just. is. not. correct.

Howe can time be a function of speed when speed has dimensions L/T? The 
idea is hilarious.....!



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#415695 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-10 08:11 -0500
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocg09v$1n96$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415679
On 4/9/2017 8:46 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
> On 10/04/17 04:39, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/8/2017 8:04 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>>> A)...the very definition of a 'frame of reference', which is essentially
>>> a speed reference.
>>
>> No definition I've ever seen makes a frame of reference a speed
>> reference. Have you just fabricated one?
>>
>>> Colinear speeds add arithmetically for the simple reason that dx/dt +
>>> dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt.
>>
>> Do you see the mistake here? dt in one frame is not the same as dt' in
>> another frame.
>
> HAHAHHHAHHAHHHHHHHAAA! I see no point in trying to argue with an
> indoctrinated  fool who still believes that kind of nonsense.

Well, if choose to simply not believe, that's up to you.

>
>> The speed of an object in reference frame S is dx/dt. The speed of the
>> origin of S in S' is dy/dt'. But you can't just take dx/dt + dy/dt' =
>> d(x+y)/dt to find the speed of the object in S', because dt' and dt are
>> not the same.
>
> Of course they are...except in Einstein's SciFi universe..

Nope. Measurements show otherwise. Of course, there's what you choose to 
believe....

>
>> So the ABUSE of arithmetic would have you use dy/dt' = dy/dt, but
>> there's the Galilean assumption that just. is. not. correct.
>
> Howe can time be a function of speed when speed has dimensions L/T? The
> idea is hilarious.....!

I love it how you try to argue on the basis of what you put on the left 
side of the equation.
In PV=nRT, which are the independent and dependent variables, Henry?

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#415698 — Re: non-coordinate basis

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-04-10 06:18 -0700
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<5ef6a106-fc7c-408e-a30c-f231c0c496aa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#415695
W dniu poniedziałek, 10 kwietnia 2017 15:11:30 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:

> >> The speed of an object in reference frame S is dx/dt. The speed of the
> >> origin of S in S' is dy/dt'. But you can't just take dx/dt + dy/dt' =
> >> d(x+y)/dt to find the speed of the object in S', because dt' and dt are
> >> not the same.
> >
> > Of course they are...except in Einstein's SciFi universe..
> 
> Nope. Measurements show otherwise. Of course, there's what you choose to 
> believe....

A lie, as expected from fanatic trash. Measurements
(GPS) show they are the same with the precision
of an acceptable error.
Of course, there's what you choose to  believe....

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#415796 — Re: non-coordinate basis

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-04-11 09:03 +1000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<och2vr$1guv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415695
On 10/04/17 23:11, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/9/2017 8:46 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>> On 10/04/17 04:39, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 4/8/2017 8:04 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>>>> A)...the very definition of a 'frame of reference', which is
>>>> essentially
>>>> a speed reference.
>>>
>>> No definition I've ever seen makes a frame of reference a speed
>>> reference. Have you just fabricated one?
>>>
>>>> Colinear speeds add arithmetically for the simple reason that dx/dt +
>>>> dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt.
>>>
>>> Do you see the mistake here? dt in one frame is not the same as dt' in
>>> another frame.
>>
>> HAHAHHHAHHAHHHHHHHAAA! I see no point in trying to argue with an
>> indoctrinated  fool who still believes that kind of nonsense.
>
> Well, if choose to simply not believe, that's up to you.

Physicists don't operate on 'beliefs'.

>>> The speed of an object in reference frame S is dx/dt. The speed of the
>>> origin of S in S' is dy/dt'. But you can't just take dx/dt + dy/dt' =
>>> d(x+y)/dt to find the speed of the object in S', because dt' and dt are
>>> not the same.
>>
>> Of course they are...except in Einstein's SciFi universe..
>
> Nope. Measurements show otherwise. Of course, there's what you choose to
> believe....

What measurements, Bodkin? Those in your dreams? or those that other 
desperate dingleberries talk about....


>>> So the ABUSE of arithmetic would have you use dy/dt' = dy/dt, but
>>> there's the Galilean assumption that just. is. not. correct.
>>
>> Howe can time be a function of speed when speed has dimensions L/T? The
>> idea is hilarious.....!
>
> I love it how you try to argue on the basis of what you put on the left
> side of the equation.
> In PV=nRT, which are the independent and dependent variables, Henry?

The correct format is R = PV/nT....where R is the dependent variable.
That is why R is a constant. It cannot vary with P.V or T because it is 
a defined function of them.



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#415857 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-11 07:59 -0500
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocijv4$1k2n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415796
On 4/10/2017 6:03 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
> On 10/04/17 23:11, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/9/2017 8:46 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>>> On 10/04/17 04:39, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 4/8/2017 8:04 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>>>>> A)...the very definition of a 'frame of reference', which is
>>>>> essentially
>>>>> a speed reference.
>>>>
>>>> No definition I've ever seen makes a frame of reference a speed
>>>> reference. Have you just fabricated one?
>>>>
>>>>> Colinear speeds add arithmetically for the simple reason that dx/dt +
>>>>> dy/dt = d(x+y)/dt.
>>>>
>>>> Do you see the mistake here? dt in one frame is not the same as dt' in
>>>> another frame.
>>>
>>> HAHAHHHAHHAHHHHHHHAAA! I see no point in trying to argue with an
>>> indoctrinated  fool who still believes that kind of nonsense.
>>
>> Well, if choose to simply not believe, that's up to you.
>
> Physicists don't operate on 'beliefs'.

They operate on experimental evidence.
You are the one that said "still believes that nonsense" and your only 
case that it is nonsense is what it is about the evidence you don't believe.

>
>>>> The speed of an object in reference frame S is dx/dt. The speed of the
>>>> origin of S in S' is dy/dt'. But you can't just take dx/dt + dy/dt' =
>>>> d(x+y)/dt to find the speed of the object in S', because dt' and dt are
>>>> not the same.
>>>
>>> Of course they are...except in Einstein's SciFi universe..
>>
>> Nope. Measurements show otherwise. Of course, there's what you choose to
>> believe....
>
> What measurements, Bodkin? Those in your dreams? or those that other
> desperate dingleberries talk about....

If you think it is desperate to talk about experimental evidence, and 
you'd just as soon not, then that makes your beliefs clear.

>
>
>>>> So the ABUSE of arithmetic would have you use dy/dt' = dy/dt, but
>>>> there's the Galilean assumption that just. is. not. correct.
>>>
>>> Howe can time be a function of speed when speed has dimensions L/T? The
>>> idea is hilarious.....!
>>
>> I love it how you try to argue on the basis of what you put on the left
>> side of the equation.
>> In PV=nRT, which are the independent and dependent variables, Henry?
>
> The correct format is R = PV/nT....where R is the dependent variable.
> That is why R is a constant. It cannot vary with P.V or T because it is
> a defined function of them.

LOL, Henry, I was thrilled you tried to get this example to fit into 
your weirdo mentality. I love especially how you got a DEPENDENT 
VARIABLE to end up being neither dependent on anything nor variable.

I'm pretty sure the older you get, the more you forget, and the stuff 
you forget you decide must not be important. Next: tying shoes!


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#415965 — Re: non-coordinate basis

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-04-12 08:06 +1000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocjk12$1e15$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415857
On 11/04/17 22:59, Odd Bodkin wrote:

>>>> HAHAHHHAHHAHHHHHHHAAA! I see no point in trying to argue with an
>>>> indoctrinated  fool who still believes that kind of nonsense.
>>>
>>> Well, if choose to simply not believe, that's up to you.
>>
>> Physicists don't operate on 'beliefs'.
>
> They operate on experimental evidence.
> You are the one that said "still believes that nonsense" and your only
> case that it is nonsense is what it is about the evidence you don't
> believe.

The so called 'evidence' you refer to is hopelessly flawed.
The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research and 
it shows that P2 is wrong..

>>>>
>>>> Of course they are...except in Einstein's SciFi universe..
>>>
>>> Nope. Measurements show otherwise. Of course, there's what you choose to
>>> believe....
>>
>> What measurements, Bodkin? Those in your dreams? or those that other
>> desperate dingleberries talk about....
>
> If you think it is desperate to talk about experimental evidence, and
> you'd just as soon not, then that makes your beliefs clear.

I have read lots of it...and it is all obviously well planned bullshit.


>> The correct format is R = PV/nT....where R is the dependent variable.
>> That is why R is a constant. It cannot vary with P.V or T because it is
>> a defined function of them.
>
> LOL, Henry, I was thrilled you tried to get this example to fit into
> your weirdo mentality. I love especially how you got a DEPENDENT
> VARIABLE to end up being neither dependent on anything nor variable.

It isn't a variable. It is a constant.
If you want to use P=nRT/V, P is dependent on the other two. It is not a 
function of itself.

You want to do this:
P=nRT/V
V=nRT/P
T=PV/nR
R=PV/nT

Therefore:
P=n(PV/nT)(PV/nR)/(nRT/P) = nP^3V^2/n^3 = P^3(n^2R^2T^2/(P^2n^3)= P

Very good Bodkin!

> I'm pretty sure the older you get, the more you forget, and the stuff
> you forget you decide must not be important. Next: tying shoes!

..or making wooden toys...



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#415968 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2017-04-11 15:41 -0700
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<5727099e-9947-44b2-af0e-7b20afe8b4c8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#415965
On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 4:06:30 PM UTC-6, Wrong-way Wilson wrote:
>
> On 11/04/17 22:59, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> > They operate on experimental evidence.
> > You are the one that said "still believes that nonsense" and your only
> > case that it is nonsense is what it is about the evidence you don't
> > believe.
> 
> The so called 'evidence' you refer to is hopelessly flawed.
> The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research and 
> it shows that P2 is wrong..

Wrong-way Wilson has it exactly backwards.  His "variable star" bull plop
is hopelessly flawed and even if it weren't, it is so indirect as to be
worthless.  His hypocrisy is evident in that he denies LLR experiments
and NASA positions of spacecraft which are inconsistent with his
DirtyBaThWater and fully consistent with invariant light speed, which are
MUCH less indirect than his variable star crapola.

> > If you think it is desperate to talk about experimental evidence, and
> > you'd just as soon not, then that makes your beliefs clear.
> 
> I have read lots of it...and

understood NONE of it.  His variable star baloney

> is all obviously well planned bullshit.

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#415970 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-11 17:45 -0500
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocjmaf$1h6n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415965
On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
> On 11/04/17 22:59, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
>>>>> HAHAHHHAHHAHHHHHHHAAA! I see no point in trying to argue with an
>>>>> indoctrinated  fool who still believes that kind of nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> Well, if choose to simply not believe, that's up to you.
>>>
>>> Physicists don't operate on 'beliefs'.
>>
>> They operate on experimental evidence.
>> You are the one that said "still believes that nonsense" and your only
>> case that it is nonsense is what it is about the evidence you don't
>> believe.
>
> The so called 'evidence' you refer to is hopelessly flawed.
> The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research and
> it shows that P2 is wrong..

I'm sorry, but your evidence is no more solid than any evidence 
supporting a different theory. If you can explain what you think the 
difference in the quality of the evidence is, I invite you to do that in 
detail.

Blanket empty assertions do nothing. That is nothing but propaganda.

>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course they are...except in Einstein's SciFi universe..
>>>>
>>>> Nope. Measurements show otherwise. Of course, there's what you
>>>> choose to
>>>> believe....
>>>
>>> What measurements, Bodkin? Those in your dreams? or those that other
>>> desperate dingleberries talk about....
>>
>> If you think it is desperate to talk about experimental evidence, and
>> you'd just as soon not, then that makes your beliefs clear.
>
> I have read lots of it...and it is all obviously well planned bullshit.
>
>
>>> The correct format is R = PV/nT....where R is the dependent variable.
>>> That is why R is a constant. It cannot vary with P.V or T because it is
>>> a defined function of them.
>>
>> LOL, Henry, I was thrilled you tried to get this example to fit into
>> your weirdo mentality. I love especially how you got a DEPENDENT
>> VARIABLE to end up being neither dependent on anything nor variable.
>
> It isn't a variable. It is a constant.

And just above you called it the dependent variable.
Now you say it isn't a variable. All inside of a few hours.
Honestly, Ralph, if you're not going to keep track of the babble that 
comes out of your own mouth and are willing to say A and then not-A in 
rapid succession, then your mind is as useless as an ejection seat in a 
helicopter.

> If you want to use P=nRT/V, P is dependent on the other two. It is not a
> function of itself.
>
> You want to do this:
> P=nRT/V
> V=nRT/P
> T=PV/nR
> R=PV/nT
>
> Therefore:
> P=n(PV/nT)(PV/nR)/(nRT/P) = nP^3V^2/n^3 = P^3(n^2R^2T^2/(P^2n^3)= P
>
> Very good Bodkin!
>
>> I'm pretty sure the older you get, the more you forget, and the stuff
>> you forget you decide must not be important. Next: tying shoes!
>
> ..or making wooden toys...
>
>
>


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#416069 — Re: non-coordinate basis

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-04-13 08:40 +1000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocmact$1mc7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#415970
On 12/04/17 08:45, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:

>> The so called 'evidence' you refer to is hopelessly flawed.
>> The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research and
>> it shows that P2 is wrong..
>
> I'm sorry, but your evidence is no more solid than any evidence
> supporting a different theory. If you can explain what you think the
> difference in the quality of the evidence is, I invite you to do that in
> detail.

There is no other theory that can explain the vast majority of variable 
stars. BaTh does it in one hit.

> Blanket empty assertions do nothing. That is nothing but propaganda.

>>>> The correct format is R = PV/nT....where R is the dependent variable.
>>>> That is why R is a constant. It cannot vary with P.V or T because it is
>>>> a defined function of them.
>>>
>>> LOL, Henry, I was thrilled you tried to get this example to fit into
>>> your weirdo mentality. I love especially how you got a DEPENDENT
>>> VARIABLE to end up being neither dependent on anything nor variable.
>>
>> It isn't a variable. It is a constant.
>
> And just above you called it the dependent variable.

It would be if it was variable...but its value is constant because of 
the peculiar relationship between P. V and T. If that did not exist, a 
change in any of those would change the value of the dependent quantity, R.

> Now you say it isn't a variable. All inside of a few hours.

It IS a variable but its value is constant. Is that simple enough for 
you to understand?

> Honestly, Henry, if you're not going to keep track of the babble that
> comes out of your own mouth and are willing to say A and then not-A in
> rapid succession, then your mind is as useless as an ejection seat in a
> helicopter.

Bodkin, Time cannot be a function of L/T.

>> If you want to use P=nRT/V, P is dependent on the other two. It is not a
>> function of itself.
>>
>> You want to do this:
>> P=nRT/V
>> V=nRT/P
>> T=PV/nR
>> R=PV/nT
>>
>> Therefore:
>> P=n(PV/nT)(PV/nR)/(nRT/P) = nP^3V^2/n^3 = P^3(n^2R^2T^2/(P^2n^3)= P
>>
>> Very good Bodkin!
>>
>>> I'm pretty sure the older you get, the more you forget, and the stuff
>>> you forget you decide must not be important. Next: tying shoes!
>>
>> ..or making wooden toys...
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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#416139 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-13 09:00 -0500
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<oco097$64r$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#416069
On 4/12/2017 5:40 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
> On 12/04/17 08:45, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>
>>> The so called 'evidence' you refer to is hopelessly flawed.
>>> The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research and
>>> it shows that P2 is wrong..
>>
>> I'm sorry, but your evidence is no more solid than any evidence
>> supporting a different theory. If you can explain what you think the
>> difference in the quality of the evidence is, I invite you to do that in
>> detail.
>
> There is no other theory that can explain the vast majority of variable
> stars. BaTh does it in one hit.

I dispute that. Prove your assertion.

>
>> Blanket empty assertions do nothing. That is nothing but propaganda.
>
>>>>> The correct format is R = PV/nT....where R is the dependent variable.
>>>>> That is why R is a constant. It cannot vary with P.V or T because
>>>>> it is
>>>>> a defined function of them.
>>>>
>>>> LOL, Henry, I was thrilled you tried to get this example to fit into
>>>> your weirdo mentality. I love especially how you got a DEPENDENT
>>>> VARIABLE to end up being neither dependent on anything nor variable.
>>>
>>> It isn't a variable. It is a constant.
>>
>> And just above you called it the dependent variable.
>
> It would be if it was variable...but its value is constant because of
> the peculiar relationship between P. V and T. If that did not exist, a
> change in any of those would change the value of the dependent quantity, R.
>
>> Now you say it isn't a variable. All inside of a few hours.
>
> It IS a variable but its value is constant. Is that simple enough for
> you to understand?

LOL. So first you said it's a dependent variable. Then you said it's NOT 
a variable; it is a constant. Now you say it IS a variable whose value 
is constant and does not depend on any of the other variables. Henry, 
the wonderful thing about your babble is that eventually it encompasses 
all possibilities.

>
>> Honestly, Henry, if you're not going to keep track of the babble that
>> comes out of your own mouth and are willing to say A and then not-A in
>> rapid succession, then your mind is as useless as an ejection seat in a
>> helicopter.
>
> Bodkin, Time cannot be a function of L/T.

Why not? Explain to me again your laws of algebra that say that no 
variable may ever appear on both sides of an equation. Explain to me 
your theory that a function of variables can nevertheless not depend on 
the variables.

>
>>> If you want to use P=nRT/V, P is dependent on the other two. It is not a
>>> function of itself.
>>>
>>> You want to do this:
>>> P=nRT/V
>>> V=nRT/P
>>> T=PV/nR
>>> R=PV/nT
>>>
>>> Therefore:
>>> P=n(PV/nT)(PV/nR)/(nRT/P) = nP^3V^2/n^3 = P^3(n^2R^2T^2/(P^2n^3)= P
>>>
>>> Very good Bodkin!
>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure the older you get, the more you forget, and the stuff
>>>> you forget you decide must not be important. Next: tying shoes!
>>>
>>> ..or making wooden toys...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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#416237 — Re: non-coordinate basis

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-04-14 09:41 +1000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocp2c6$1rsq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#416139
On 14/04/17 00:00, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/12/2017 5:40 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>> On 12/04/17 08:45, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>>
>>>> The so called 'evidence' you refer to is hopelessly flawed.
>>>> The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research and
>>>> it shows that P2 is wrong..
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, but your evidence is no more solid than any evidence
>>> supporting a different theory. If you can explain what you think the
>>> difference in the quality of the evidence is, I invite you to do that in
>>> detail.
>>
>> There is no other theory that can explain the vast majority of variable
>> stars. BaTh does it in one hit.
>
> I dispute that. Prove your assertion.

You only have to read about attempts to explain star brightness 
variability to see that nobody has much of a clue..

>>> And just above you called it the dependent variable.
>>
>> It would be if it was variable...but its value is constant because of
>> the peculiar relationship between P. V and T. If that did not exist, a
>> change in any of those would change the value of the dependent
>> quantity, R.
>>
>>> Now you say it isn't a variable. All inside of a few hours.
>>
>> It IS a variable but its value is constant. Is that simple enough for
>> you to understand?
>
> LOL. So first you said it's a dependent variable. Then you said it's NOT
> a variable; it is a constant. Now you say it IS a variable whose value
> is constant and does not depend on any of the other variables. Henry,
> the wonderful thing about your babble is that eventually it encompasses
> all possibilities.

It is a variable constant, obviously...but it does not vary for the 
simple reason that P V and T are related in a fixed way.

All constants are variable IF the variables to which their constancy 
applies are given different values.

For instance c, has values 2.997e8 or 2.997e5 or 18600, depending on 
which measurement system is used.

>>> Honestly, Henry, if you're not going to keep track of the babble that
>>> comes out of your own mouth and are willing to say A and then not-A in
>>> rapid succession, then your mind is as useless as an ejection seat in a
>>> helicopter.
>>
>> Bodkin, Time cannot be a function of L/T.
>
> Why not? Explain to me again your laws of algebra that say that no
> variable may ever appear on both sides of an equation. Explain to me
> your theory that a function of variables can nevertheless not depend on
> the variables.

Because, Bodkin, when you put them together, on one side, you have 
changed the quantities on the other.
See my reply to someone else.

If T == k(x/T) ...(time is dependent on speed)
T = k(sqrt(x))...(time is dependent on the sqrt of distance.)
That doesn't make much sense, does it?

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#416238 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromPython <python@example.invalid>
Date2017-04-14 01:45 +0200
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocp2ie$1s6n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#416237
Ralph Malcom Rabbidge wrote:
> All constants are variable IF the variables to which their constancy
> applies are given different values.
>
> For instance c, has values 2.997e8 or 2.997e5 or 18600, depending on
> which measurement system is used.

Too bad Dirk VdM is not maintaining anymore "Immortal Fumbles" page
these days ;-)


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#416283 — Re: non-coordinate basis

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-14 08:30 -0500
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocqiui$96u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#416237
On 4/13/2017 6:41 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
> On 14/04/17 00:00, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/12/2017 5:40 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>>> On 12/04/17 08:45, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The so called 'evidence' you refer to is hopelessly flawed.
>>>>> The only direct evidence concerning P2 is my variable star research
>>>>> and
>>>>> it shows that P2 is wrong..
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, but your evidence is no more solid than any evidence
>>>> supporting a different theory. If you can explain what you think the
>>>> difference in the quality of the evidence is, I invite you to do
>>>> that in
>>>> detail.
>>>
>>> There is no other theory that can explain the vast majority of variable
>>> stars. BaTh does it in one hit.
>>
>> I dispute that. Prove your assertion.
>
> You only have to read about attempts to explain star brightness
> variability to see that nobody has much of a clue..

I don't see any particular concrete matter of fact. Your subjective 
impression means nothing.

>
>>>> And just above you called it the dependent variable.
>>>
>>> It would be if it was variable...but its value is constant because of
>>> the peculiar relationship between P. V and T. If that did not exist, a
>>> change in any of those would change the value of the dependent
>>> quantity, R.
>>>
>>>> Now you say it isn't a variable. All inside of a few hours.
>>>
>>> It IS a variable but its value is constant. Is that simple enough for
>>> you to understand?
>>
>> LOL. So first you said it's a dependent variable. Then you said it's NOT
>> a variable; it is a constant. Now you say it IS a variable whose value
>> is constant and does not depend on any of the other variables. Henry,
>> the wonderful thing about your babble is that eventually it encompasses
>> all possibilities.
>
> It is a variable constant, obviously...but it does not vary for the
> simple reason that P V and T are related in a fixed way.

LOL, Henry. Really. A variable constant.

It never ceases to amaze me what babble you're willing to dandle out there.

>
> All constants are variable IF the variables to which their constancy
> applies are given different values.
>
> For instance c, has values 2.997e8 or 2.997e5 or 18600, depending on
> which measurement system is used.
>
>>>> Honestly, Henry, if you're not going to keep track of the babble that
>>>> comes out of your own mouth and are willing to say A and then not-A in
>>>> rapid succession, then your mind is as useless as an ejection seat in a
>>>> helicopter.
>>>
>>> Bodkin, Time cannot be a function of L/T.
>>
>> Why not? Explain to me again your laws of algebra that say that no
>> variable may ever appear on both sides of an equation. Explain to me
>> your theory that a function of variables can nevertheless not depend on
>> the variables.
>
> Because, Bodkin, when you put them together, on one side, you have
> changed the quantities on the other.
> See my reply to someone else.
>
> If T == k(x/T) ...(time is dependent on speed)
> T = k(sqrt(x))...(time is dependent on the sqrt of distance.)
> That doesn't make much sense, does it?
>

LOL, again I marvel at your remarkable claim that what variables you put 
on what side of the equation tells you which is a dependent variable. Or 
maybe a variable constant. Or maybe a constant variable. Maybe 
dependent, maybe not.




-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#416310 — Re: non-coordinate basis

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-14 16:19 +0000
SubjectRe: non-coordinate basis
Message-ID<ocqsr0$drs$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#416237
"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> writes:

>On 14/04/17 00:00, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/12/2017 5:40 PM, HGW... DSc. wrote:
>>> On 12/04/17 08:45, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>
>>> There is no other theory that can explain the vast majority of variable
>>> stars. BaTh does it in one hit.
>>
>> I dispute that. Prove your assertion.

>You only have to read about attempts to explain star brightness 
>variability to see that nobody has much of a clue..

That's just babbling, Ralph, not a proof of your assertion.

>>> Bodkin, Time cannot be a function of L/T.
>>
>> Why not? Explain to me again your laws of algebra that say that no
>> variable may ever appear on both sides of an equation. Explain to me
>> your theory that a function of variables can nevertheless not depend on
>> the variables.

>Because, Bodkin, when you put them together, on one side, you have 
>changed the quantities on the other.
>See my reply to someone else.

>If T == k(x/T) ...(time is dependent on speed)
>T = k(sqrt(x))...(time is dependent on the sqrt of distance.)
>That doesn't make much sense, does it?

Sure it does, Ralph, once we fix your mistake (it's T = sqrt(kx) ).
What that means is finding out how long it takes for the system to
reach that state.  For example, how long does it take for x to reach 100
if T = k(x/T)?  Plug in 100 for x in T = sqrt(kx) and you have your
answer, Ralph.

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