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Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro?

Started byHGW <hw@....>
First post2016-12-24 19:02 +1100
Last post2016-12-30 08:16 +1100
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  Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-24 19:02 +1100
    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 01:34 -0800
    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 01:40 -0800
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-25 08:39 +1100
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 14:37 -0800
          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-25 18:29 +1100
            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 01:30 -0800
              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-26 05:23 +1100
                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-25 12:29 -0800
                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-26 08:08 +1100
                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-25 13:40 -0800
                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-27 11:08 +1100
                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 05:23 -0800
                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-28 11:22 +1100
                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 12:39 -0800
                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-26 08:17 +1100
    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-24 22:38 +1100
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-25 08:11 +1100
    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-24 06:53 -0800
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-25 08:16 +1100
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-25 08:28 -0800
          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-26 05:25 +1100
            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-25 10:57 -0800
              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-26 08:12 +1100
                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-25 19:21 -0600
                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 03:40 -0800
                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-28 11:26 +1100
                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-26 09:24 -0800
                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-28 11:28 +1100
                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-28 09:56 -0800
                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-29 06:37 +1100
                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-29 11:18 -0800
                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 08:03 +1100
                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-29 14:10 -0800
                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 11:23 +1100
                                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-30 11:52 -0800
                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-31 07:31 +1100
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-01-04 03:51 -0800
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-05 08:32 +1100
    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-24 16:35 +0000
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-25 08:17 +1100
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-25 05:19 +0000
          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-25 18:32 +1100
            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-25 15:38 +0000
    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-12-24 16:07 -0800
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-24 20:33 -0600
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 18:43 -0800
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-12-25 08:25 -0800
          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-26 05:37 +1100
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-26 04:59 +1100
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 00:09 -0800
          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-28 11:46 +1100
            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 19:05 -0800
              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-28 18:53 +1100
                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-28 16:54 +0000
                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-29 06:03 +1100
                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-29 02:43 +0000
                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 08:06 +1100
                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-29 22:25 +0000
                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 11:26 +1100
                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-30 01:06 +0000
                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 14:28 +1100
    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-25 07:35 -0800
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-26 07:53 +1100
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 09:47 -0800
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 15:08 -0800
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-28 11:27 -0800
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 15:45 -0800
          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 08:01 +1100
            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 14:53 -0800
              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 11:19 +1100
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-29 06:32 +1100
    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-28 22:26 +0100
      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 07:45 -0800
        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 08:27 +1100
          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 13:55 -0800
            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 10:52 +1100
              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 03:47 -0800
                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-31 07:34 +1100
                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 14:20 -0800
                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-30 14:50 -0800
                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-02 06:27 +1100
                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 01:10 -0800
                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? alsor@interia.pl - 2017-01-02 09:31 -0800
                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-03 13:03 +1100
                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 18:14 -0800
                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-01-04 03:52 +1100
                                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-04 10:45 +0100
                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-05 08:22 +1100
                                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-05 11:19 +0100
                                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-06 08:54 +1100
                                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 14:28 -0800
                                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-06 15:53 +1100
                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 03:12 -0800
                                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-01-07 05:44 +1100
                                                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 14:34 -0800
                                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 15:16 -0800
                                                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 15:56 -0800
                                                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 17:25 -0800
                                                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 20:38 -0800
                                                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 20:50 -0800
                                                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 20:57 -0800
                                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 21:05 -0800
                                                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 21:04 -0800
                                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 21:20 -0800
                                                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 21:23 -0800
                                                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-06 22:08 -0800
                                                                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 02:28 -0800
                                                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 04:01 -0800
                                                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 05:26 -0800
                                                                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 08:02 -0800
                                                                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 09:42 -0800
                                                                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 09:53 -0800
                                                                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 16:21 -0800
                                                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 16:33 -0800
                                                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 17:06 -0800
                                                                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 17:37 -0800
                                                                                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 17:43 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 19:58 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 21:23 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 21:41 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 00:36 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-08 07:14 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 21:56 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 01:08 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-08 07:18 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 17:44 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-08 17:53 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 18:00 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-08 18:09 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 01:14 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 01:23 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 06:44 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 06:49 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 08:12 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 08:16 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 16:14 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 16:18 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 17:27 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 19:00 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-09 19:10 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 00:44 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 00:51 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 07:48 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 07:58 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 08:06 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-09 10:32 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 12:22 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-08 13:05 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 15:23 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-08 15:46 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Why Do SR and BaTh Both Give the Right Answer for a Sagnac Ring Gyro? dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 16:23 -0800
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#402964

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2016-12-25 08:28 -0800
Message-ID<ccc64724-57eb-4b3f-ae84-cd9b88d8f107@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#402937
W dniu sobota, 24 grudnia 2016 22:16:13 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> On 25/12/16 01:53, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> > W dniu sobota, 24 grudnia 2016 09:02:32 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> >> When viewed in the inertial frame, both SR and BaTh agree that the two
> >> beams of a ring gyro travel different distances. SR says both beams move
> >> at c in the non-rotating frame and have different travel times, Bath
> >> says the travel times are the same. SR says light is a simple oscillator
> >> and since both rays leave together, they must reunite with different
> >> phase. BaTh says light does not oscillate during travel but has a fixed
> >> wavelength.
> >>
> >> SR says the travel times are 2piR/(c+v) and 2piR/(c-v) and the
> >> difference is = 2piR(2v/(c^2-v^2)) = 4Aw /c^2.
> >> Therefore phase difference at receiver is = 4Aw/(c.Lambda)
> >>
> >> BaTh says both travel times are: t = 2piR/c and the path lengths are
> >> (c+v)t and (c-v)t. Therefore the difference in path lengths is 4piRv/c.
> >> Since lambda is constant, the phase difference = 4Aw/(c.lambda) as before.
> >>
> >> So how can two diametrically opposed theories produce the same correct
> >> answer?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >
> > You should first define what is the BaTh in your stupid speech.
> 
> Here is an autographed copy: http://www.scisite.info/wilsonsbath.html
 
Oh! Your speech is about the failed Ritz-Einsten corpuscular model of light... 

Light is a wave:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arago_spot

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#402970

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-12-26 05:25 +1100
Message-ID<o3p2uh$1mun$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#402964
On 26/12/16 03:28, alsor@interia.pl wrote:

>>>>
>>>> SR says the travel times are 2piR/(c+v) and 2piR/(c-v) and the
>>>> difference is = 2piR(2v/(c^2-v^2)) = 4Aw /c^2.
>>>> Therefore phase difference at receiver is = 4Aw/(c.Lambda)
>>>>
>>>> BaTh says both travel times are: t = 2piR/c and the path lengths are
>>>> (c+v)t and (c-v)t. Therefore the difference in path lengths is 4piRv/c.
>>>> Since lambda is constant, the phase difference = 4Aw/(c.lambda) as before.
>>>>
>>>> So how can two diametrically opposed theories produce the same correct
>>>> answer?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> You should first define what is the BaTh in your stupid speech.
>>
>> Here is an autographed copy: http://www.scisite.info/wilsonsbath.html
>
> Oh! Your speech is about the failed Ritz-Einsten corpuscular model of light...

It didn't fail. Ritz unfortunately died before he could finish it..

> Light is a wave:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arago_spot

Light is not a simple oscillator. It is a spatial 'wave'.



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#402974

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2016-12-25 10:57 -0800
Message-ID<4a8d3d2c-e49d-4c79-aa73-ebfef2b6f2c0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#402970
W dniu niedziela, 25 grudnia 2016 19:25:25 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:

> It didn't fail. Ritz unfortunately died before he could finish it..


Indeed. Einstein finished this idiotic idea.

> > Light is a wave:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arago_spot
> 
> Light is not a simple oscillator. It is a spatial 'wave'.

Spatial wave?
Such thing doesn't exist... like the purple rain.

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#402983

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-12-26 08:12 +1100
Message-ID<o3pcnn$607$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#402974
On 26/12/16 05:57, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu niedziela, 25 grudnia 2016 19:25:25 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
>
>> It didn't fail. Ritz unfortunately died before he could finish it..
>
>
> Indeed. Einstein finished this idiotic idea.
>
>>> Light is a wave:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arago_spot
>>
>> Light is not a simple oscillator. It is a spatial 'wave'.
>
> Spatial wave?
> Such thing doesn't exist... like the purple rain.

An ocean wave is a spatial wave, you poor fellow. It moves but does not 
oscillate.
It is like a frozen sine wave moving sideways. A radio signal is the 
same and so, presumably, is light.



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#402989

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2016-12-25 19:21 -0600
Message-ID<RcKdnd1u15YH7f3FnZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#402983
On 12/25/16 12/25/16   3:12 PM, HGW wrote:
> An ocean wave is a spatial wave, you poor fellow. It moves but does not oscillate.
> It is like a frozen sine wave moving sideways.

Anyone who has seen ocean waves approach and break on a shoreline knows how 
inadequate this description is. Ocean waves are a DYNAMIC process....

	I don't know what "the wave oscillates" might mean, but it is
	dead-bang CERTAIN that portions of the water oscillate as the
	wave goes by.

> A radio signal is the same and so, presumably, is light.

This is likewise outrageously inadequate: light is NOT A WAVE. Light is a 
quantum phenomenon MUCH more complicated than any wave. Apparently you are 
unable to understand this, and prefer your personal fantasies. How sad.

Tom Roberts

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#402994

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-12-26 03:40 -0800
Message-ID<411ace33-95a0-4d44-9200-bd634217718a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#402989
W dniu poniedziałek, 26 grudnia 2016 02:21:37 UTC+1 użytkownik tjrob137 napisał:

> Anyone who has seen ocean waves approach and break on a shoreline knows how 
> inadequate this description is. Ocean waves are a DYNAMIC process....
> 
> 	I don't know what "the wave oscillates" might mean, but it is
> 	dead-bang CERTAIN that portions of the water oscillate as the
> 	wave goes by.
> 
> > A radio signal is the same and so, presumably, is light.
> 
> This is likewise outrageously inadequate: light is NOT A WAVE. Light is a 
> quantum phenomenon MUCH more complicated than any wave.

Anyone who has seen ocean wawes and break on a shoreline knows
they are far, far, far more complicated than any mathematical
fantasies imagined by a brainwashed moron.
Apparently you are unable to understand this, and prefer your 
personal fantasies. How sad.

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#403164

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-12-28 11:26 +1100
Message-ID<o3v0rb$cjo$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#402989
On 26/12/16 12:21, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 12/25/16 12/25/16   3:12 PM, HGW wrote:
>> An ocean wave is a spatial wave, you poor fellow. It moves but does
>> not oscillate.
>> It is like a frozen sine wave moving sideways.
>
> Anyone who has seen ocean waves approach and break on a shoreline knows
> how inadequate this description is. Ocean waves are a DYNAMIC process....
>
>      I don't know what "the wave oscillates" might mean, but it is
>      dead-bang CERTAIN that portions of the water oscillate as the
>      wave goes by.
>
>> A radio signal is the same and so, presumably, is light.
>
> This is likewise outrageously inadequate: light is NOT A WAVE. Light is
> a quantum phenomenon MUCH more complicated than any wave. Apparently you
> are unable to understand this, and prefer your personal fantasies. How sad.

Not so. It is more or less what I said. Light behaves as though it has 
an intrinsic and absolute wavelength. The actual details of that 
property or the way it is formed are not known. ...but one thing is 
certain, Maxwell's equations do not apply to light traveling in 
space....and nor does any aspect of Einstein's ridiculous theory.

> Tom Roberts
>


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#403029

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2016-12-26 09:24 -0800
Message-ID<1aa65752-4c0e-4870-a02f-8c6488cf85a4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#402983
W dniu niedziela, 25 grudnia 2016 22:12:26 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> On 26/12/16 05:57, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> > W dniu niedziela, 25 grudnia 2016 19:25:25 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> >
> >> It didn't fail. Ritz unfortunately died before he could finish it..
> >
> >
> > Indeed. Einstein finished this idiotic idea.
> >
> >>> Light is a wave:
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arago_spot
> >>
> >> Light is not a simple oscillator. It is a spatial 'wave'.
> >
> > Spatial wave?
> > Such thing doesn't exist... like the purple rain.
> 
> An ocean wave is a spatial wave, you poor fellow. It moves but does not 
> oscillate.
> It is like a frozen sine wave moving sideways. A radio signal is the 
> same and so, presumably, is light.
 
Wrong analogy.
The ocean waves is just an oscillation of the surface (on boundary).

Light is not a surface wave, obviously,
and unfortunately, to the your improvisation.

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#403165

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-12-28 11:28 +1100
Message-ID<o3v0vi$cjo$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#403029
On 27/12/16 04:24, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu niedziela, 25 grudnia 2016 22:12:26 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
>> On 26/12/16 05:57, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu niedziela, 25 grudnia 2016 19:25:25 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
>>>
>>>> It didn't fail. Ritz unfortunately died before he could finish it..
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed. Einstein finished this idiotic idea.
>>>
>>>>> Light is a wave:
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arago_spot
>>>>
>>>> Light is not a simple oscillator. It is a spatial 'wave'.
>>>
>>> Spatial wave?
>>> Such thing doesn't exist... like the purple rain.
>>
>> An ocean wave is a spatial wave, you poor fellow. It moves but does not
>> oscillate.
>> It is like a frozen sine wave moving sideways. A radio signal is the
>> same and so, presumably, is light.
>
> Wrong analogy.
> The ocean waves is just an oscillation of the surface (on boundary).
>
> Light is not a surface wave, obviously,
> and unfortunately, to the your improvisation.

Light is not a wave...Roberts said so...and I partly agree... because it 
has a wavelike spatial pattern.



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#403217

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2016-12-28 09:56 -0800
Message-ID<ce6e002d-26b5-40e9-9fb9-d0e804f72e35@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#403165
W dniu środa, 28 grudnia 2016 01:28:38 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> On 27/12/16 04:24, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> > W dniu niedziela, 25 grudnia 2016 22:12:26 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> >> On 26/12/16 05:57, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> >>> W dniu niedziela, 25 grudnia 2016 19:25:25 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> >>>
> >>>> It didn't fail. Ritz unfortunately died before he could finish it..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Indeed. Einstein finished this idiotic idea.
> >>>
> >>>>> Light is a wave:
> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arago_spot
> >>>>
> >>>> Light is not a simple oscillator. It is a spatial 'wave'.
> >>>
> >>> Spatial wave?
> >>> Such thing doesn't exist... like the purple rain.
> >>
> >> An ocean wave is a spatial wave, you poor fellow. It moves but does not
> >> oscillate.
> >> It is like a frozen sine wave moving sideways. A radio signal is the
> >> same and so, presumably, is light.
> >
> > Wrong analogy.
> > The ocean waves is just an oscillation of the surface (on boundary).
> >
> > Light is not a surface wave, obviously,
> > and unfortunately, to the your improvisation.
> 
> Light is not a wave...Roberts said so...and I partly agree... because it 
> has a wavelike spatial pattern.

You both are very stupid.

The one Arago has been disproved your improvisation long time ago...

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#403286

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-12-29 06:37 +1100
Message-ID<o414a2$1jib$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#403217
On 29/12/16 04:56, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu środa, 28 grudnia 2016 01:28:38 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:

>>>
>>> Wrong analogy.
>>> The ocean waves is just an oscillation of the surface (on boundary).
>>>
>>> Light is not a surface wave, obviously,
>>> and unfortunately, to the your improvisation.
>>
>> Light is not a wave...Roberts said so...and I partly agree... because it
>> has a wavelike spatial pattern.
>
> You both are very stupid.
>
> The one Arago has been disproved your improvisation long time ago...

Light's 'wave' is spatially configured. It does not vary with time. It 
induces a time varying 'wave' when intercepted. That explains 
interference effects.

That is so obvious that in the 150 years radio has been going, I am the 
only person who has realized it.



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#403362

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2016-12-29 11:18 -0800
Message-ID<a0897ffb-7895-41ff-b058-44a86e4d1675@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#403286
W dniu środa, 28 grudnia 2016 20:37:41 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:

> Light's 'wave' is spatially configured. It does not vary with time. It 
> induces a time varying 'wave' when intercepted. That explains 
> interference effects.
> 
> That is so obvious that in the 150 years radio has been going, I am the 
> only person who has realized it.

Indeed. You realised the great nonsense,
because only You one - in the whole milenium,
are sufficiently stupid to claim such naive nonsense for the public:

an experimenter dependency of the time dilation under observation.  :)


In fact you probably rediscovered the standard SR relativity of simultaneity fallacy:
dt = k xv/c^2

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#403371

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-12-30 08:03 +1100
Message-ID<o43tmv$1p5o$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#403362
On 30/12/16 06:18, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu środa, 28 grudnia 2016 20:37:41 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
>
>> Light's 'wave' is spatially configured. It does not vary with time. It
>> induces a time varying 'wave' when intercepted. That explains
>> interference effects.
>>
>> That is so obvious that in the 150 years radio has been going, I am the
>> only person who has realized it.
>
> Indeed. You realised the great nonsense,
> because only You one - in the whole milenium,
> are sufficiently stupid to claim such naive nonsense for the public:
>
> an experimenter dependency of the time dilation under observation.  :)

There is NO time dilation. How could TIME be dependent on speed when 
speed is  function of time?

>
> In fact you probably rediscovered the standard SR relativity of simultaneity fallacy:
> dt = k xv/c^2
>

I did but not that one.

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#403386

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2016-12-29 14:10 -0800
Message-ID<ef495015-a710-49f4-b5ed-bd3e6edec949@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#403371
W dniu czwartek, 29 grudnia 2016 22:03:30 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
 
> There is NO time dilation. How could TIME be dependent on speed when 
> speed is  function of time?

that's no problem for algebra...
what great Einstein showed long time ago:

t' = c'/c t -> c = inv,
because you change the time delay,
using a ligtspeed in a role of the unit of a speed,
therefore the value of the lightspeed is preserved like:

1unit = 1unit always and unconditionaly!
thus c' = c = 1 unit.

That is the key of the relativistic stupidity.

> > In fact you probably rediscovered the standard SR relativity of simultaneity fallacy:
> > dt = k xv/c^2
 
> I did but not that one.

Then wrong, because the one is correct only.

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#403403

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-12-30 11:23 +1100
Message-ID<o449du$b3a$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#403386
On 30/12/16 09:10, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 29 grudnia 2016 22:03:30 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
>
>> There is NO time dilation. How could TIME be dependent on speed when
>> speed is  function of time?
>
> that's no problem for algebra...
> what great Einstein showed long time ago:
>
> t' = c'/c t -> c = inv,
> because you change the time delay,
> using a ligtspeed in a role of the unit of a speed,
> therefore the value of the lightspeed is preserved like:
>
> 1unit = 1unit always and unconditionaly!
> thus c' = c = 1 unit.

Your '1unit' has dimensions, dopey...in this case L/T.

> That is the key of the relativistic stupidity.
>
>>> In fact you probably rediscovered the standard SR relativity of simultaneity fallacy:
>>> dt = k xv/c^2
>
>> I did but not that one.
>
> Then wrong, because the one is correct only.

My proof is correct: http://www.scisite.info/ros.html



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#403507

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2016-12-30 11:52 -0800
Message-ID<8e47eaa0-81e9-40db-b2ea-509272c10ba3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#403403
W dniu piątek, 30 grudnia 2016 01:23:30 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> On 30/12/16 09:10, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> > W dniu czwartek, 29 grudnia 2016 22:03:30 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> >
> >> There is NO time dilation. How could TIME be dependent on speed when
> >> speed is  function of time?
> >
> > that's no problem for algebra...
> > what great Einstein showed long time ago:
> >
> > t' = c'/c t -> c = inv,
> > because you change the time delay,
> > using a ligtspeed in a role of the unit of a speed,
> > therefore the value of the lightspeed is preserved like:
> >
> > 1unit = 1unit always and unconditionaly!
> > thus c' = c = 1 unit.
> 
> Your '1unit' has dimensions, dopey...in this case L/T.


The unit for a speed in the relativity is simply:
1 unit =  a light speed.

You should notice there is nothing about c = const,
because it's totaly irrelevant for that definition of the unit!

for example:
A. the light speed wrt a moving frame along of the motion,
means: horisontaly, is c - v,
thus the unit of the speed is c-v.

therefore: c-v -> c automaticaly!
Why? Because the light speed has been predefined to the c value.

B. the speed of light, in any moving frame
and perpendiculary to the motion is: c*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

so, what is now the speed of light (with the choosed unit for speed)?

Simply: in the unit of a speed is: c*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2),
because this is the light speed in this case.

Therefore the light speed perpendicularily to the motion dir. is: c,
again!

Why? Because we use just the light speed as the unit of speed!
 


> > That is the key of the relativistic stupidity.
> >
> >>> In fact you probably rediscovered the standard SR relativity of simultaneity fallacy:
> >>> dt = k xv/c^2
> >
> >> I did but not that one.
> >
> > Then wrong, because the one is correct only.
> 
> My proof is correct: http://www.scisite.info/ros.html
> 
> 
> 
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#403509

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-12-31 07:31 +1100
Message-ID<o46g7d$5bi$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#403507
On 31/12/16 06:52, alsor@interia.pl wrote:

>>>
>>> 1unit = 1unit always and unconditionaly!
>>> thus c' = c = 1 unit.
>>
>> Your '1unit' has dimensions, dopey...in this case L/T.
>
>
> The unit for a speed in the relativity is simply:
> 1 unit =  a light speed.
>
> You should notice there is nothing about c = const,
> because it's totaly irrelevant for that definition of the unit!

c is a universal constant, dimensions L/T, with a defined value of 
299792458 metres per second.

c is not to be confused with the speed of light. which can have almost 
any value, although as far as we know, all EM does initially move at a 
speed equal to c relative to its source.

> for example:
> A. the light speed wrt a moving frame along of the motion,
> means: horisontaly, is c - v,
> thus the unit of the speed is c-v.
>
> therefore: c-v -> c automaticaly!
> Why? Because the light speed has been predefined to the c value.
>
> B. the speed of light, in any moving frame
> and perpendiculary to the motion is: c*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
>
> so, what is now the speed of light (with the choosed unit for speed)?
>
> Simply: in the unit of a speed is: c*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2),
> because this is the light speed in this case.
>
> Therefore the light speed perpendicularily to the motion dir. is: c,
> again!
>
> Why? Because we use just the light speed as the unit of speed!

Yes...It is stupid. In reality, all speeds are frame dependent by 
definition.


>>> That is the key of the relativistic stupidity.
>>>
>>>>> In fact you probably rediscovered the standard SR relativity of simultaneity fallacy:
>>>>> dt = k xv/c^2
>>>
>>>> I did but not that one.
>>>
>>> Then wrong, because the one is correct only.
>>
>> My proof is correct: http://www.scisite.info/ros.html
>>
>>
>>
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#403950

FromEckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de>
Date2017-01-04 03:51 -0800
Message-ID<4a153d55-41c0-45f9-b5a9-2ddfec89fae6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#402923
Am Samstag, 24. Dezember 2016 15:53:55 UTC+1 schrieb al...@interia.pl:
> W dniu sobota, 24 grudnia 2016 09:02:32 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał:
> > When viewed in the inertial frame, both SR and BaTh agree that the two 
> > beams of a ring gyro travel different distances. SR says both beams move 
> > at c in the non-rotating frame and have different travel times, Bath 
> > says the travel times are the same. SR says light is a simple oscillator 
> > and since both rays leave together, they must reunite with different 
> > phase. BaTh says light does not oscillate during travel but has a fixed 
> > wavelength.
> > 
> > SR says the travel times are 2piR/(c+v) and 2piR/(c-v) and the 
> > difference is = 2piR(2v/(c^2-v^2)) = 4Aw /c^2.
> > Therefore phase difference at receiver is = 4Aw/(c.Lambda)
> > 
> > BaTh says both travel times are: t = 2piR/c and the path lengths are 
> > (c+v)t and (c-v)t. Therefore the difference in path lengths is 4piRv/c.
> > Since lambda is constant, the phase difference = 4Aw/(c.lambda) as before.
> > 
> > So how can two diametrically opposed theories produce the same correct 
> > answer?
> > 
> > 
> > --
> 
> You should first define what is the BaTh in your stupid speech.

I also didn't understand what is meant with Bath. Before I understood that Ba stands for ballistic and is therefore at odds with my definition, I googled in vain for Bath. Of course, I was aware of the University of Bath.

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#404020

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2017-01-05 08:32 +1100
Message-ID<o4jpm7$1hjs$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#403950
On 04/01/17 22:51, Eckard B wrote:
> Am Samstag, 24. Dezember 2016 15:53:55 UTC+1 schrieb

>>> BaTh says both travel times are: t = 2piR/c and the path lengths
>>> are (c+v)t and (c-v)t. Therefore the difference in path lengths
>>> is 4piRv/c. Since lambda is constant, the phase difference =
>>> 4Aw/(c.lambda) as before.
>>>
>>> So how can two diametrically opposed theories produce the same
>>> correct answer?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> You should first define what is the BaTh in your stupid speech.
>
> I also didn't understand what is meant with Bath. Before I understood
> that Ba stands for ballistic and is therefore at odds with my
> definition, I googled in vain for Bath. Of course, I was aware of the
> University of Bath.

www.scisite.info/wilsonsbath.html

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#402932

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-12-24 16:35 +0000
Message-ID<o3m85e$ot4$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#402911
HGW <hw@....> writes:

>When viewed in the inertial frame, both SR and BaTh agree that

Nobody cares what BaTh states since it is a failed theory.

If BaTh happens to come up with a correct answer for once, all it means is
that even though BaTh is wrong, it's not ALWAYS wrong 100% of the time.

A stopped clock, a blind squirrel and so forth.

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