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  Einstein's relativity is philosophy, not physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 22:16 -0800
    Re: Einstein's relativity is philosophy, not physics Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 07:49 +0100
      Re: Einstein's relativity is philosophy, not physics djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-03-01 06:56 +0000
        Re: Einstein's relativity is philosophy, not physics Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:16 +0100
    Re: Einstein's relativity is philosophy, not physics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-03-01 07:52 -0500
    Re: Einstein's relativity is philosophy, not physics Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:34 -0600

#377533 — Einstein's relativity is philosophy, not physics

the Nobel Prize committee said that
Einstein's relativity, 
is philosophical, not physics, right? 



“When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute.
But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute—and it’s longer than any
hour. That’s relativity.”



-Albert Einstein

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#377536

Dne 01/03/2016 v 07:16 The Starmaker napsal(a):
> the Nobel Prize committee said that
> Einstein's relativity, 
> is philosophical, not physics, right? 
> 
> 
> 
> “When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute.
> But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute—and it’s longer than any
> hour. That’s relativity.”
> 
> 
One can make a philosophical or poetic comment
for near any part of science.
It does not make it a philosophy nor poetry.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#377537

In article <nb3dss$50k$1@dont-email.me>,
Poutnik  <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote:
>Dne 01/03/2016 v 07:16 The Starmaker napsal(a):
>> the Nobel Prize committee said that
>> Einstein's relativity, 
>> is philosophical, not physics, right? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute.
>> But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute—and it’s longer than any
>> hour. That’s relativity.”
>> 
>> 
>One can make a philosophical or poetic comment
>for near any part of science.
>It does not make it a philosophy nor poetry.
>
>-- 
>Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Cognate with Russian Sputnik?  Sounds as if it might be, but I've
learned to beware of false cognates.

Einstein is also supposed to have said, when asked to explain radio,
"Well, you know how the telegraph works.  It's like a very long
cat; you pull the cat's tail in New York and it meows in Los
Angeles.  Radio is exactly the same, only there is no cat."

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#377540

Dne 01/03/2016 v 07:56 Dorothy J Heydt napsal(a):


>> Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
> 
> Cognate with Russian Sputnik?  Sounds as if it might be, but I've
> learned to beware of false cognates.

Yes, both words have the same origin of old Slavic root "put",
with meaning of path, way, route. The prefix s- means
"somebody who travels with you", a co-traveller.
Sputnik is such an Earth co-traveller through the Universe.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sputnik

QUOTE
...... from Russian sputnik "satellite,"
literally "traveling companion" (in this use short for sputnik zemlyi,
"traveling companion of the Earth") from Old Church Slavonic supotiniku,
from Russian so-, s- "with, together" + put' "path, way," from Old
Church Slavonic poti, from PIE *pent- "to tread, go" (see find (v.)) +
agent suffix -nik.

    The electrifying impact of the launch on the West can be gauged by
the number of new formations in -nik around this time (the suffix had
been present in a Yiddish context for at least a decade before); Laika,
the stray dog launched aboard Sputnik 2 (Nov. 2, 1957), which was dubbed
muttnik in the "Detroit Free Press," etc. The rival U.S. satellite which
failed to reach orbit in 1957 (because the Vanguard rocket blew up on
the launch pad) derided as a kaputnik (in the "Daytona Beach Morning
Journal"), a dudnik ("Christian Science Monitor"), a flopnik
("Youngstown Vindicator," "New York Times"), a pffftnik ("National
Review"), and a stayputnik ("Vancouver Sun").



-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#377554

Is that the same NOBEL COMITTEE that gave Obama a PEACE PRIZE ???

Ya, I'm sure they deserve all the credibility you want to give them.





The Starmaker wrote:
> the Nobel Prize committee said that
> Einstein's relativity,
> is philosophical, not physics, right?
>
>
>
> "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute.
> But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute-and it's longer than any
> hour. That's relativity."
>
>
>
> -Albert Einstein 

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#377567

On 3/1/16 12:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> the Nobel Prize committee said that Einstein's relativity, is
> philosophical, not physics, right?



   The Nobel Prize in Physics 1921 was awarded to Albert Einstein
   "for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his
   discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect".


   Why Einstein never received a Nobel prize for relativity
> https://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/2012/oct/08/einstein-nobel-prize-relativity

> The Nobel citation reads that Einstein is honoured for "services to
> theoretical physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of
> the photoelectric effect". At first glance, the reference to
> theoretical physics could have been a back door through which the
> committee acknowledged relativity. However, there was a caveat
> stating that the award was presented "without taking into account the
> value that will be accorded your relativity and gravitation theories
> after these are confirmed in the future".
>
> To many, and to Einstein himself, this felt like a slap in the face.
> Hadn't Eddington proved the theory? Yes, but the trouble was
> Eddington's observations had not been perfect and he had discarded
> data he considered poor from his final analysis. To some, as related
> in Jeffrey Crelinsten's Einstein's Jury, this smacked of cooking the
> books in Einstein's favour. In reality it was just good scientific
> practice.
>
> There is also another way to read the Nobel caveat. Could it have
> been that the committee was leaving the door open for a second Nobel
> prize in the future, once relativity had been more rigorously tested?
> We will never know. As Einstein's fame spread, so he alienated
> himself from the physics community by refusing to accept quantum
> theory. A Nobel prize for relativity was never awarded.
>
> The final twist in this story is that Einstein did not attend his
> prize giving. Despite being informed that he was about to receive the
> prize, he chose to continue with a lecture tour of Japan. Partly,
> this was because he no longer valued the prize and partly it was
> because he needed to disappear.
>


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