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Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong.

Started by"HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....>
First post2016-12-14 05:37 +1100
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  Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-14 05:37 +1100
    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Zaida Orvis <iOsddiosaa@iOsddi.saa.iOs> - 2016-12-13 20:31 +0000
    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-13 22:35 +0100
      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Odilia Blatt <Bditttaliol@Bditttali.l.org> - 2016-12-13 21:39 +0000
        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-16 18:54 +0100
    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 17:04 -0800
    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-14 12:14 +1100
      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-13 20:37 -0800
        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-14 22:24 +1100
          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-15 06:47 +1100
            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-15 12:24 +1100
          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-14 14:23 -0800
          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2016-12-15 01:23 +0000
            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-12-14 19:08 -0800
              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-15 21:06 +1100
                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-15 03:28 -0800
                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-15 22:41 +1100
                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-16 08:35 +1100
                      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-16 13:21 +1100
                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-16 19:08 +1100
                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-16 19:11 +1100
                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-17 08:02 +1100
                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-17 09:30 -0600
                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-18 08:29 +1100
                      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-18 09:02 -0800
                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-18 09:08 -0800
                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-19 08:56 +1100
                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-12-18 14:39 -0800
                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-19 21:06 +1100
                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-19 04:11 -0800
                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-19 04:57 -0800
                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-19 17:32 +0000
                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-19 05:21 +0000
                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-15 15:30 +0100
                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-15 07:08 -0800
                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-16 08:48 +1100
                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-15 14:21 -0800
                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-16 13:19 +1100
                      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-16 19:11 +1100
                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-16 22:35 +1100
                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-16 13:35 +0100
                      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-17 09:07 +1100
                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-16 20:56 -0800
                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-17 19:30 +1100
                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-17 11:38 +0100
                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-17 04:46 -0800
                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-17 16:20 +0000
                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-17 16:14 +0000
                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-18 08:40 +1100
                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-17 21:49 +0000
                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-17 16:38 -0600
                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-17 23:17 +0000
                                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-17 20:24 -0600
                                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-18 15:13 +1100
                                      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-18 16:13 +1100
                                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-18 20:14 +1100
                                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-19 15:11 +1100
                                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-19 20:59 +1100
                                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-19 22:44 +1100
                                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-19 03:57 -0800
                                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-20 09:01 +1100
                                                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-19 14:29 -0800
                                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-18 02:05 -0800
                                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-20 22:49 -0800
                                      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-21 19:36 +1100
                                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-21 13:45 +0100
                                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-22 08:11 +1100
                                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-22 10:08 +0100
                                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:31 -0600
                                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-23 06:06 +1100
                                                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-22 12:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 08:10 -0600
                                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-23 08:14 +1100
                                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-28 21:48 +0000
                                                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-29 11:01 +0100
                                                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 08:32 +1100
                                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-28 21:21 +0100
                                                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 08:45 +1100
                                                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-29 18:35 -0800
                                                      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 14:33 +1100
                                                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-29 21:04 -0800
                                                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-30 19:23 +1100
                                                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 07:01 -0800
                                                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-31 07:41 +1100
                                                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 15:11 -0800
                                                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-31 15:15 +0100
                                                      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-01 13:37 +1100
                                                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 05:42 -0800
                                                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-02 05:52 +1100
                                                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 12:06 -0800
                                                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-02 07:33 +1100
                                                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 13:38 -0800
                                                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-01 15:37 +0100
                                                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2017-01-02 05:57 +1100
                              Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-18 02:10 +0000
                                Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-18 15:21 +1100
                                  Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-19 05:20 +0000
                                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-19 21:03 +1100
                                      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-19 17:43 +0000
                        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-19 09:07 +0100
                          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-19 21:20 +1100
                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Mitzi Gilliard <iotoor@iGMaMiai.org> - 2016-12-20 04:07 +0000
                            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-19 18:57 +0100
                    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-16 18:19 +0000
        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 15:03 -0800
          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 15:12 -0800
          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 15:19 -0800
            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 15:55 -0800
          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-14 19:10 -0800
            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 19:25 -0800
        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-16 03:57 -0800
          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-16 04:37 -0800
            Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-18 02:32 -0800
      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-16 03:55 -0800
        Mentally ill Jay Mosley escapes the local insane asylum and starts blogging again "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-16 10:04 -0800
          Mentally ill Jay Mosley escapes the local insane asylum and starts blogging again jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-18 02:33 -0800
    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-19 10:48 -0800
    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-19 10:49 -0800
    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-19 14:39 -0800
      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-20 11:18 +1100
        Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-19 18:38 -0800
          Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. Mitzi Gilliard <iotoor@iGMaMiai.org> - 2016-12-20 04:04 +0000
    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-19 16:28 -0800
    Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-20 10:09 -0800
      Re: Digital Light Signals Prove Einstein Wrong. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-21 07:54 +1100

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#402269

From"HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2016-12-19 21:20 +1100
Message-ID<o38c9j$1gqa$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#402265
On 19/12/16 19:07, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> On 16.12.2016 23:07, HGW wrote:
>>
>> Radio waves do not have a frequency.
>> The reason you do not understand that is the simple fact that I appear
>> to be the only person in the whole history of physics that has realized
>> it. That makes me smarter than the rest...and you should feel privileged
>> to be one of the first to be enlightened.
>
> ... and Henry George Wilson is dead serious!

Well what other conclusion couls any sane person draw? The only 
frequencies involved in Radio transmission are in the broadcasting 
antenna. The same frequencies (maybe Doppler shifted) appear in the 
receiver when the signal passes into to it. The signal does not 
oscillate as it travels. This is so obvious that I find it hard to 
believe that the idea of light and radio having a 'frequency' is still 
being taught in even the best universities.

> Well, well, Henry.
> It has been fun, but now the end seem to be reached reached.
> Sad.

..sad that your funny little Sagnac article in now heading for the trash 
can where it belongs...

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#402393

FromMitzi Gilliard <iotoor@iGMaMiai.org>
Date2016-12-20 04:07 +0000
Message-ID<o3aaq8$32m$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#402269
HGWilson, DSc. wrote:

>> Well, well, Henry. It has been fun, but now the end seem to be reached
>> reached. Sad.
> 
> ..sad that your funny little Sagnac article in now heading for the trash
> can where it belongs...

Please use that article in an electronic format. Otherwise it would be a 
lot of wasting paper.

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#402449

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2016-12-19 18:57 +0100
Message-ID<o3971t$sb4$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#402269
On 19.12.2016 11:20, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
> On 19/12/16 19:07, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> On 16.12.2016 23:07, HGW wrote:
>>>
>>> Radio waves do not have a frequency.
>>> The reason you do not understand that is the simple fact that I appear
>>> to be the only person in the whole history of physics that has realized
>>> it. That makes me smarter than the rest...and you should feel privileged
>>> to be one of the first to be enlightened.
>>
>> ... and Ralph Malcom Rabbidge is dead serious!
>
> Well what other conclusion could any sane person draw?

Which means that Ralph Malcom Rabbidge is the only sane person
in the whole history of physics.

That should make you think, but it won't.

'nuff said!

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#402035

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-12-16 18:19 +0000
Message-ID<o31b84$fr2$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#401964
HGW <hw@....> writes:

>On 16/12/16 01:30, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> On 15.12.2016 11:06, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
>>>
>>> Have any of you dingleberries considered what a digital light pulse
>>> actually looks like? What are the photons doing? Where is the frequency?
>>>
>>
>> https://paulba.no/temp/Fourier.pdf
>> Page 12

>Irrelevant. Traveling light does not have a frequency. The frequency you 
>are talking about is used in the transmitter to create the traveling 
>series of pulses and is subsequently regenerated in the receiver. A 
>digital signal consists of a series of short bursts of fixed wavelengths 
>(of a carrier frequency). The pulse arrival frequency is obviously 
>Doppler shifted by (c+v)/c at the receiver and not by Einstein's silly 
>equation.

"Obviously", Ralph? How can anything be obvious when there is no evidence
of it?

Or is it "obvious" by being fixed in your head? Kind of like a schizophrenic
who hears voices in his head that "obviously" tells him to go out and
kill or something?

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#401846

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-14 15:03 -0800
Message-ID<521bbae4-2407-431a-b5f0-2f0c42729e6c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401722
Gary Harnagel

Assertion without evidence is his modus operandi.  He's too incompetent 
to come up with a rational explanation.  All we get is, "The photon 
carries it's own aether."  Hilarious! 

Gary 

In a way the Photon absolutely does carry its own Aether 

376.7303462^2 is carried along with the photon 

(1e+7/4pi)*376.7303 = c

112940718117/376.7303 = c

"The Aether" the photon carries with is is a ( Continuously Oscillating Positive to Negative  Momentum). 

So there !!!!!

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#401847

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-14 15:12 -0800
Message-ID<017f5173-059b-43f6-8346-092b4e7e2c2e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401846
Gary Harnagel 

Assertion without evidence is his modus operandi.  He's too incompetent 
to come up with a rational explanation.  All we get is, "The photon 
carries it's own aether."  Hilarious! 

Gary 

In a way the Photon absolutely does carry its own Aether 

376.7303462^2 is carried along with the photon 

(1e+7/4pi)*376.7303 = c 

112940718117/376.7303 = c 

"The Aether" the photon carries with is is a ( Continuously Oscillating Positive to Negative  Momentum). 

So there !!!!! 

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#401849

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-14 15:19 -0800
Message-ID<4a9965f7-f963-452f-ae26-83d2a051fa1c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401846
http://portal.groupkos.com/images/b/b5/Torus_spinwave_moebius_edge_red_phase_core_640x480.gif

It is 376.73^2 trapped in a möbius transform 

It is simultaneously positive + negative Momentum in  a Torus
The oscillation of positive to negative momentum is trapped in a torsional spin of the Torus's surface at c

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#401852

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-14 15:55 -0800
Message-ID<cd51d4b3-6b9d-499e-b7da-7ef26c33e6ca@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401849
((376.75 / 50) * 2) / 11 = 1.37
Mandelbrot Set 50

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#401864

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-12-14 19:10 -0800
Message-ID<b1d37ed4-128e-405d-ba79-6dc8bd0a7e54@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401846
On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 4:03:14 PM UTC-7, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>
> Gary Harnagel
> 
> Assertion without evidence is his modus operandi.  He's too incompetent 
> to come up with a rational explanation.  All we get is, "The photon 
> carries it's own aether."  Hilarious! 
> 
> Gary 
> 
> In a way the Photon absolutely does carry its own Aether 

In a way you carry around stupidity.

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#401867

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-14 19:25 -0800
Message-ID<209eee7b-7db8-4204-a0cb-059bf41082bc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401864
Gary Harnagel scribbled:

In a way you carry around stupidity. 

OBFUSCATION & Derailment

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#402008

Fromjaymoseley@hotmail.com
Date2016-12-16 03:57 -0800
Message-ID<231ca2e8-8ecf-44fe-b13c-5678e328cca3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401722
Gary Harnagel wrote..
>assertion without evidence is his modus operandi..

Yes sort of like Tom and Paul's assertions without evidence about 
classical theory. Possibly yours too if you believe in SR.
See 'The c+v hoax' at...
http://physicsexplained.blogspot.co.uk

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#402011

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-12-16 04:37 -0800
Message-ID<5d5f4917-5cdd-43e7-8d09-2fd82aff129d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#402008
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 4:57:51 AM UTC-7, jaymo...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Gary Harnagel wrote..
> >
> > assertion without evidence is his modus operandi..
> 
> Yes sort of like Tom and Paul's assertions without evidence about 
> classical theory. Possibly yours too if you believe in SR.
> See 'The c+v hoax' at...
> http://physicsexplained.blogspot.co.uk

Face it, infantile fool: you are just a troll.

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#402181

Fromjaymoseley@hotmail.com
Date2016-12-18 02:32 -0800
Message-ID<7a1c8f85-cdc5-490d-b500-c34d6831690a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#402011
I notice Gary Harnagel can't do his maths either. Tell me 
Gary, using a Galilean transformation how do you get
a constant speed in an inertial frame from a constant
speed in a rotating frame?
Can't do the maths? Better stick to the invective.

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#402007

Fromjaymoseley@hotmail.com
Date2016-12-16 03:55 -0800
Message-ID<6662e8a4-c56c-483a-954a-0625deb76cbb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401704
Sylvia Else wrote
>You might at least try to explain why you think that's the case. 

Why should he? Paul and Tom Roberts refuse to supply any explanation
as to how they arrived at the erroneous assumption they make that
light for classical is constant in an inertial frame where the source 
rotates. For that matter you probably can't either. Yet the veracity
of SR relies on this false assumption being true!!

See " The c+v hoax" at...
http://physicsexplained.blogspot.co.uk

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#402033 — Mentally ill Jay Mosley escapes the local insane asylum and starts blogging again

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2016-12-16 10:04 -0800
SubjectMentally ill Jay Mosley escapes the local insane asylum and starts blogging again
Message-ID<5773d778-ad6c-46fb-9a87-05e930594d36@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#402007
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:55:33 AM UTC-8, jaymo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote
> >You might at least try to explain why you think that's the case. 
> 
> Why should he? Paul and Tom Roberts refuse to supply any explanation
> as to how they arrived at the erroneous assumption they make that
> light for classical is constant in an inertial frame where the source 
> rotates. For that matter you probably can't either. Yet the veracity
> of SR relies on this false assumption being true!!
> 
> See " The c+v hoax" at...
> http://physicsexplained.blogspot.co.uk

Your mental illness started in 2008 and extends beyond relativity. How long have you resided at the current insane asylum? Broadmoor, is it? 

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#402182 — Mentally ill Jay Mosley escapes the local insane asylum and starts blogging again

Fromjaymoseley@hotmail.com
Date2016-12-18 02:33 -0800
SubjectMentally ill Jay Mosley escapes the local insane asylum and starts blogging again
Message-ID<9a4bf163-147b-42f2-8e05-c867099b1887@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#402033
I think the guy you saw at Braodmoor was someone else.

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#402325

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2016-12-19 10:48 -0800
Message-ID<00952eef-b178-49aa-818f-73bed32acc9b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401646
Assertion without evidence is his modus operandi.  He's too incompetent 
to come up with a rational explanation.  All we get is, "The photon 
carries it's own aether." 

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which conflicts with Huygens' ether particles that are stationary. 












 

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#402326

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2016-12-19 10:49 -0800
Message-ID<958f2676-24dc-4ce5-b73f-8a45410e5f92@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401646
 Space is not a medium.


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nor is a CS.

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#402356

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2016-12-19 14:39 -0800
Message-ID<70a79dda-29d2-46e1-b3ff-958336a92bdb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#401646
A frequency implies a wave structure and a wave structure of light is formed by the motion of an optical ether, composed of matter, yet the wave effects of light form in vacuum that is void of matter. Henceforth, the frequency is part of the detection method not the physical structure.

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#402365

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-12-20 11:18 +1100
Message-ID<o39tcj$1kno$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#402356
On 20/12/16 09:39, numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:
> A frequency implies a wave structure and a wave structure of light is
> formed by the motion of an optical ether, composed of matter, yet the
> wave effects of light form in vacuum that is void of matter.
> Henceforth, the frequency is part of the detection method not the
> physical structure.

Not quite right but you are getting closer.
There is no aether but there are regions of space that approximate
one....weakly.
...but you must be congratulated in understanding that the frequency is
in the source and receiver only, and not the light or radio signal itself.

Water waves do not oscillate either. The molecules at a particular point
go up and down with a 'frequency' but the wave outline stays the same
while moving as a whole.

poor little gary does not have the intelligence to imagine what happens
when a radio signal is emitted by an antenna. He doesn't understand that
the term c/lambda is that which describes the arrival rate of a fixed
spatial arrangement moving at c. He cannot understand the identity
dn/dt=dn/dx.dx/dt, which is one of the first things a person learns
about calculus.

poor litle gary would love to be a real physicist like me but simply
doesn't have what it takes...so he just yaps and barks like a little 
puppy who has been abandoned by its mother...

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