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Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v.

Started by"HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....>
First post2016-10-12 06:06 +1100
Last post2016-11-13 15:05 -0800
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  Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-12 06:06 +1100
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Ralphie-boy Is Asinine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-11 20:03 -0700
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Ralphie-boy Is Asinine. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-12 01:03 -0700
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-12 15:08 +1100
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-12 01:06 -0700
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-12 20:27 +1100
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-12 04:56 -0700
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-13 18:34 +1100
            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-13 05:28 -0700
              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-14 06:55 +1100
                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-13 14:47 -0700
            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 14:31 -0700
              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-24 11:29 +1100
                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Walter Bautista <wabau@outlookbay.org> - 2016-10-25 21:04 +0000
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-26 10:00 +0200
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-12 15:03 +0000
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-12 22:27 +0200
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-14 13:53 +1100
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-14 20:15 +1100
            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-14 22:30 +1100
              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-15 05:33 +1100
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-14 05:06 -0700
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-10-15 09:59 -0700
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-14 15:07 -0700
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 20:35 -0700
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-15 10:37 -0700
            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:47 -0700
              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-15 11:10 -0700
                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 12:16 -0700
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:00 -0700
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-15 15:20 -0700
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:35 -0700
                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-15 15:45 -0700
                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-15 16:13 -0700
                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 16:25 -0700
                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. SPQR <SPQR@SPQR.org> - 2016-10-15 17:33 -0600
                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-15 18:21 -0700
                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-10-15 21:58 -0600
                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-16 20:07 -0500
                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-16 20:01 -0500
                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-15 18:14 -0700
                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 20:43 -0700
                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-10-15 22:05 -0600
                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-17 03:24 +1100
                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-16 13:10 -0700
                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-16 22:55 +0200
                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. ScottPN <Scott@oe0vgk3s.info> - 2016-10-17 11:43 +0000
                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-18 08:38 +1100
                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-17 20:04 -0700
                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-18 19:55 +1100
                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-18 05:04 -0700
                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-19 07:57 +1100
                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-18 17:32 -0700
                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-20 03:25 +1100
                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-19 20:41 +0200
                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-20 20:39 +1100
                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-20 04:03 -0700
                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-20 04:14 -0700
                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-20 14:50 +0200
                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-21 03:23 +1100
                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-20 17:23 +0000
                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-20 20:54 +0200
                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-22 04:02 +1100
                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 12:22 -0500
                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-21 20:35 +0200
                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-22 10:46 +1100
                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-21 20:10 -0700
                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-23 04:50 +1100
                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-22 12:07 -0700
                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 08:55 -0500
                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-23 05:13 +1100
                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 15:35 -0500
                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-23 22:30 -0500
                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-25 08:19 +1100
                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-21 19:46 +0200
                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-22 10:47 +1100
                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-22 13:46 +0200
                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-23 05:21 +1100
                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-23 11:08 +0200
                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Edgar König <edgko@edgarkoenig.info> - 2016-10-23 11:47 +0000
                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-24 08:19 +1100
                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-24 10:37 +0200
                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-25 08:14 +1100
                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-25 09:25 +0200
                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-25 00:44 -0700
                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-25 20:55 +1100
                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-25 03:06 -0700
                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-25 05:08 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-25 05:34 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-26 05:55 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Edgar König <edgko@edgarkoenig.info> - 2016-10-25 19:09 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-25 14:02 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-26 20:58 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-26 05:24 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-27 05:17 +1100
                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-26 18:30 -0700
                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-25 13:00 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-25 20:55 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Edgar König <edgko@edgarkoenig.info> - 2016-10-25 19:14 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-25 14:28 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Edgar König <edgko@edgarkoenig.info> - 2016-10-25 19:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-26 06:18 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-26 15:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-27 05:19 +1100
                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-25 22:02 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Edgar König <edgko@edgarkoenig.info> - 2016-10-25 20:08 +0000
                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-26 09:29 -0500
                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-28 08:37 +1100
                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-10-27 20:40 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-28 19:54 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-28 04:57 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-10-28 15:23 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 17:11 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-30 19:30 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-30 05:18 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-30 18:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-31 06:34 +1100
                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 15:59 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-01 08:11 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 15:19 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-08 08:43 +1100
                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-07 14:29 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-08 15:05 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-08 03:40 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-09 11:42 +1100
                                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-08 18:12 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-11 12:41 +1100
                                                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-10 18:43 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-08 13:49 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-08 05:55 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-09 11:40 +1100
                                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-11-09 12:50 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-09 04:06 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-11-10 03:04 +1100
                                                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 11:01 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-11 12:56 +1100
                                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 08:53 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-11-13 06:39 +1100
                                                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-11-09 20:07 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-11 12:54 +1100
                                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-11-11 14:14 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-12 10:13 +1100
                                                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-11-12 11:23 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-11-13 06:35 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-11-12 20:46 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-13 17:55 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-11-13 09:07 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-13 04:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-14 07:38 +1100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-13 20:02 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-14 07:35 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 07:23 -0600
                                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-15 07:59 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 16:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 05:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 07:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 08:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-15 05:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-11-16 08:36 +1100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 14:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-11-17 05:51 +1100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 03:12 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-18 08:21 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Edwin Grünner <edwgr@menckensite.org> - 2016-11-17 21:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 16:04 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 09:19 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-09 11:43 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 07:30 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-11-10 03:12 +1100
                                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 11:02 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-11 12:58 +1100
                                                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 08:54 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-11-11 07:59 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-12 10:37 +1100
                                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-09 23:13 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-01 02:46 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-02 08:59 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-02 04:10 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-02 19:47 +1100
                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-02 03:59 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-03 08:22 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-02 14:24 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-11-02 23:21 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-02 22:44 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-11-02 16:33 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-03 19:52 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-03 04:21 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-03 15:16 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 15:48 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-29 07:37 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-10-28 15:35 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-28 23:00 +0000
                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 09:50 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-29 07:43 +1100
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-29 07:42 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 16:13 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-01 08:16 +1100
                                                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-29 21:40 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-30 19:34 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-30 18:10 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-11-03 07:12 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-04 11:08 +1100
                                                                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-04 04:16 -0700
                                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-21 05:13 +0000
                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-20 14:26 +0200
                                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-20 05:45 -0700
                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-20 15:26 +0000
                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-20 03:02 -0700
                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 14:33 -0700
                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-15 22:32 -0700
                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 03:21 -0700
                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-16 11:19 +0200
                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-16 19:54 -0500
                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-19 16:35 -0700
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-16 06:04 +1100
            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 12:25 -0700
              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. alsor@interia.pl - 2016-10-15 14:02 -0700
              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-16 01:37 +0000
                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-17 03:57 +1100
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-16 20:39 +0000
                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-16 20:16 -0500
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-17 02:01 +0000
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-16 22:56 -0500
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-18 08:53 +1100
              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-17 03:53 +1100
                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-16 20:19 -0500
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-18 09:19 +1100
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-18 04:03 +0000
                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-18 20:01 +1100
    Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-12 06:24 -0700
      Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-12 07:21 -0700
        Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-12 07:33 -0700
          Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-12 07:59 -0700
          Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-15 19:59 -0700
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 14:27 -0700
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-16 12:52 +1100
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-15 19:45 -0700
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-16 15:08 +1100
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-17 04:06 +1100
            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-17 11:12 +1100
              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-18 09:05 +1100
                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-17 22:45 +0000
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:03 -0700
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-18 03:01 +0000
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-18 10:18 +1100
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-18 03:18 +0000
                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-18 19:57 +1100
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 04:09 -0700
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 09:54 -0500
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-19 10:40 -0500
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-20 03:39 +1100
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 09:50 -0700
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 13:57 -0500
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-20 13:59 +1100
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-21 02:38 +1100
            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 11:03 -0500
              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-21 04:21 +1100
                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-20 11:05 -0700
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-22 04:08 +1100
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-21 14:32 -0700
                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-22 10:49 +1100
                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-21 20:15 -0700
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Dwain Foster <dwainbwe@tyrellysite.org> - 2016-10-22 12:36 +0000
                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Dwain Foster <dwainbwe@tyrellysite.org> - 2016-10-22 12:55 +0000
                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-23 05:24 +1100
                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 08:26 -0500
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-21 06:45 -0700
                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-22 04:14 +1100
                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 12:34 -0500
                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-22 10:51 +1100
                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 08:56 -0500
                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-23 05:26 +1100
                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 15:35 -0500
                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-24 08:28 +1100
                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:13 -0500
                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-25 08:36 +1100
                                    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-26 09:29 -0500
                                      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-27 05:26 +1100
                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. xxein1@att.net - 2016-10-26 17:19 -0700
                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-28 08:39 +1100
                                        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 09:47 -0500
                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-29 08:02 +1100
                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-29 08:41 -0500
                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-30 05:55 +1100
                                            Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 17:10 -0500
                                              Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-30 19:41 +1100
                                                Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 15:50 -0500
                                                  Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-01 08:18 +1100
                                          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-02 00:15 -0700
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-22 14:54 -0700
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-19 23:33 -0700
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-20 15:00 +0000
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Dwain Foster <dwainbwe@tyrellysite.org> - 2016-10-22 15:36 +0000
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-10 12:20 -0800
    Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-12 13:09 -0800
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-12 14:29 -0800
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-13 17:59 +1100
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-12 14:37 -0800
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-13 18:00 +1100
        Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. Gwyneth Montgomery <GwynethMont@MontgomeryInstitute.info> - 2016-11-13 22:42 +0000
          Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-14 10:56 +1100
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-13 12:35 -0800
      Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-15 08:23 +1100
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-13 12:51 -0800
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-13 12:52 -0800
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-13 12:52 -0800
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-13 13:08 -0800
    Re: Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-13 15:05 -0800

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#397941

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-11-08 08:43 +1100
Message-ID<nvqsi6$n7$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#397929
On 08/11/16 08:19, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 10/31/2016 4:11 PM, HGW wrote:

>>> You don't care about reasoning. You care only for engaging in banter AS
>>> THOUGH what you say is reasonable. You invite people to TRY to convince
>>> you that what you say is unreasonable, and you take joy in resisting
>>> being convinced. That's not discussion. It's just feeding your
>>> pathological social pathways.
>>
>> Bodkin, you cannot understand my proof because it contains a little
>> logic and math. Admit it!
>
> Nah. As we discussed, you don't prove anything in science with logic and
> math. So.....

Not true. All of physics is either logical or wrong.

>


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#397946

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-11-07 14:29 -0800
Message-ID<f8051d90-2c38-4fe7-a30e-4a3805aaa258@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397941
On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 2:43:38 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:
>
> On 08/11/16 08:19, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> > On 10/31/2016 4:11 PM, HGW wrote:
> > >
> > > Bodkin, you cannot understand my proof because it contains a little
> > > logic and math. Admit it!
> >
> > Nah. As we discussed, you don't prove anything in science with logic and
> > math. So.....
> 
> Not true. All of physics is either logical or wrong.

Nope:

“It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how
smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.”
 -- Richard P. Feynman

DirtyBaThWater is wrong.

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#397978

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-11-08 15:05 +1100
Message-ID<nvritp$1aic$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#397946
On 08/11/16 09:29, Gary Harnagel screamed hysterically and wrote:

>>> Nah. As we discussed, you don't prove anything in science with
>>> logic and math. So.....
>>
>> Not true. All of physics is either logical or wrong.
>
> Nope:
>
> “It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter
> how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.”
> -- Richard P. Feynman

Maybe the experiment was wrong...or Feynman...

> DirtyBaThWater is wrong.

How could it be?


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#398002

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-11-08 03:40 -0800
Message-ID<3effa122-c05f-4975-a82d-5cdc18410639@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397978
On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 9:05:14 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:
>
> On 08/11/16 09:29, Gary Harnagel wrote cogently:
> >
> > > > Ralphie-boy delusionally wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bodkin, you cannot understand my proof because it contains a little
> > > > > logic and math. Admit it! 
> > >
> > > O.B. wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nah. As we discussed, you don't prove anything in science with
> > > logic and math. So.....
> > >
> > > Not true. All of physics is either logical or wrong.
> >
> > Nope:
> >
> > “It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter
> > how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.”
> > -- Richard P. Feynman
> 
> Maybe the experiment was wrong...or Feynman...

(1) Feynman wasn't wrong.  YOU are.

(2) "Experiment" doesn't mean some kook who misinterprets real data, which
is what YOU do.

> > DirtyBaThWater is wrong.
> 
> How could it be?

Very simple.  See #2.  You don't perform experiments.  You don't accept
the results of myriad experiments unless you can twist their results
with painful and unscientific contortions to agree with your fantasies.
You have proven that your logic is twisted and your understanding of
the meaning of terms in an algebraic equation is nonexistent.

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#398075

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-11-09 11:42 +1100
Message-ID<nvtrd5$13b7$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398002
On 08/11/16 22:40, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 9:05:14 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:

>>>
>>> “It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter
>>> how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.”
>>> -- Richard P. Feynman
>>
>> Maybe the experiment was wrong...or Feynman...
>
> (1) Feynman wasn't wrong.  YOU are.
>
> (2) "Experiment" doesn't mean some kook who misinterprets real data, which
> is what YOU do.
>
>>> DirtyBaThWater is wrong.
>>
>> How could it be?
>
> Very simple.  See #2.  You don't perform experiments.  You don't accept
> the results of myriad experiments unless you can twist their results
> with painful and unscientific contortions to agree with your fantasies.
> You have proven that your logic is twisted and your understanding of
> the meaning of terms in an algebraic equation is nonexistent.

I don't know of any experiment that refutes BaTh or supports Einstein's 
silly theory. The reason: there isn't one!



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#398078

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-11-08 18:12 -0800
Message-ID<33c7e1f8-56ed-463e-85e0-2f108f9278f5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398075
On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 5:42:17 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:
>
> On 08/11/16 22:40, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 9:05:14 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > “It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter
> > > > how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.”
> > > > -- Richard P. Feynman
> > >
> > > Maybe the experiment was wrong...or Feynman...
> >
> > (1) Feynman wasn't wrong.  YOU are.
> >
> > (2) "Experiment" doesn't mean some kook who misinterprets real data, which
> > is what YOU do.
> >
> > > > DirtyBaThWater is wrong.
> > >
> > > How could it be?
> >
> > Very simple.  See #2.  You don't perform experiments.  You don't accept
> > the results of myriad experiments unless you can twist their results
> > with painful and unscientific contortions to agree with your fantasies.
> > You have proven that your logic is twisted and your understanding of
> > the meaning of terms in an algebraic equation is nonexistent.
> 
> I don't know of any experiment that refutes BaTh or supports Einstein's 
> silly theory. The reason: there isn't one!

Nope.  The reason is that you are intentionally ignorant.

“Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most fools do.”
-- Benjamin Franklin

Typical of an atheistic fool.

I Timothy 4:

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall
depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of
devils;

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

An apt description of Ralphie-boy.

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#398235

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-11-11 12:41 +1100
Message-ID<o037jq$171u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398078
On 09/11/16 13:12, Gary Harnagel wrote:

> Typical of an atheistic fool.
>
> I Timothy 4:
>
> 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall
> depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of
> devils;

I gather that means you only try to defend Einstein's stupid theory 
through blind faith.

> 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

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#398240

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-11-10 18:43 -0800
Message-ID<16925805-0779-4ec0-bd87-28ff5db2a2de@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398235
On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 6:41:19 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:
>
> On 09/11/16 13:12, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > Typical of an atheistic fool.
> >
> > I Timothy 4:
> >
> > 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall
> > depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of
> > devils;
> 
> I gather that means you only try to defend Einstein's stupid theory 
> through blind faith.

You gather wrong, as your delusions lead you.

> > 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot
> > iron;

It means that you are a liar and a hypocrite.  And a fool:

“Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most fools do.” 
-- Benjamin Franklin 

Which you dishonestly failed to include in your delusional post.

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#398008

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-11-08 13:49 +0000
Message-ID<nvsl4e$o07$5@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#397978
HGW <hw@....> writes:

>> DirtyBaThWater is wrong.

>How could it be?

Ralph, experimental results don't answer the question how a theory can be
wrong, just that they are wrong.  So we know from many observations that
DirtyBaThWater is wrong, but you have to look elsewhere to find out _why_
DirtyBaThWater is wrong.  May I suggest you study SR math, because SR Math
does explain why DirtyBaThWater is wrong.

And once again, reread what Feynman wrote: "It doesn't matter how
beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it
doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

Since DirtyBaThWater doesn't agree with experiment, DirtyBaThWater is
wrong.  Simple as that.

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#398010

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-11-08 05:55 -0800
Message-ID<1c3e0aa8-0679-468e-8a28-cdf6647ef543@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398008
W dniu wtorek, 8 listopada 2016 14:49:04 UTC+1 użytkownik Michael Moroney napisał:

> Since DirtyBaThWater doesn't agree with experiment, DirtyBaThWater is
> wrong.  Simple as that.

The world looks so simple, when you are a fanatic moron.

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#398074

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-11-09 11:40 +1100
Message-ID<nvtr9v$13b7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398008
On 09/11/16 00:49, poor little Michael Moroney wrote:
> HGW <hw@....> writes:
>
>>> DirtyBaThWater is wrong.
>
>> How could it be?
>
> Ralph, experimental results don't answer the question how a theory can be
> wrong, just that they are wrong.  So we know from many observations that
> DirtyBaThWater is wrong, but you have to look elsewhere to find out _why_
> DirtyBaThWater is wrong.  May I suggest you study SR math, because SR Math
> does explain why DirtyBaThWater is wrong.
>
> And once again, reread what Feynman wrote: "It doesn't matter how
> beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it
> doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."
>
> Since DirtyBaThWater doesn't agree with experiment, DirtyBaThWater is
> wrong.  Simple as that.

Any experiment that is designed to test a theory must include all 
factors relating to that theory, not to another conflicting one.

For instance, de Sitter's so called refutations of BaTh relied on 
readings that were interpreted entirely on aether principles, not those 
of BaTh.

He didn't know what BaTh stood for.





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#398097

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2016-11-09 12:50 +0100
Message-ID<nvv2iq$mrc$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#398074
On 09.11.2016 01:40, HGW wrote:
> On 09/11/16 00:49, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>
>> Since DirtyBaThWater doesn't agree with experiment, DirtyBaThWater is
>> wrong.  Simple as that.
>
> Any experiment that is designed to test a theory must include all
> factors relating to that theory, not to another conflicting one.
>

So when an experiment designed to test the SR prediction
that the speed of light in vacuum is independent of
the speed of the source shows that the speed of light in vacuum
is independent of the speed of the source, it doesn't falsify
a theory which predicts that the speed of light in vacuum is
dependent on the speed of the source because the experiment wasn't
designed to test the theory that predicts the speed of light
in vacuum is dependent on the speed of the source? :-D


https://paulba.no/paper/Babcock_Bergman.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Alvager_et_al.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Beckmann_Mandics.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Brecher.pdf


Even if all these experiments confirm SR,
they don't falsify the BaTh, quite the contrary,
the fact that they weren't designed to test the 'BaTh'
make them  "Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v"!

Right Ralph? :-D

(But of course no experiment can falsify the 'BaTh',
  because the 'BaTh' isn't falsifiable!
  And that's a good thing, isn't it Ralph?)

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#398098

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-11-09 04:06 -0800
Message-ID<e55e324b-4770-45dd-8384-6efbb06f14a2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398097
W dniu środa, 9 listopada 2016 12:50:52 UTC+1 użytkownik Paul B. Andersen napisał:
> On 09.11.2016 01:40, HGW wrote:
> > On 09/11/16 00:49, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>
> >> Since DirtyBaThWater doesn't agree with experiment, DirtyBaThWater is
> >> wrong.  Simple as that.
> >
> > Any experiment that is designed to test a theory must include all
> > factors relating to that theory, not to another conflicting one.
> >
> 
> So when an experiment designed to test the SR prediction
> that the speed of light in vacuum is independent of
> the speed of the source shows that the speed of light in vacuum
> is independent of the speed of the source, it doesn't falsify
> a theory which predicts that the speed of light in vacuum is
> dependent on the speed of the source because the experiment wasn't
> designed to test the theory that predicts the speed of light
> in vacuum is dependent on the speed of the source? :-D

Of course it doesn't. If it's designed for The Shit,
it uses The Shit's assumptions, measurement procedures,
standards...
But these are things beyond your puny, brainwashed
mind.

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#398117

From"HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2016-11-10 03:04 +1100
Message-ID<nvvhdt$1lcf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398097
On 09/11/16 22:50, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> On 09.11.2016 01:40, HGW wrote:

>> Any experiment that is designed to test a theory must include all
>> factors relating to that theory, not to another conflicting one.
>>
>
> So when an experiment designed to test the SR prediction
> that the speed of light in vacuum is independent of
> the speed of the source shows that the speed of light in vacuum
> is independent of the speed of the source, it doesn't falsify
> a theory which predicts that the speed of light in vacuum is
> dependent on the speed of the source because the experiment wasn't
> designed to test the theory that predicts the speed of light
> in vacuum is dependent on the speed of the source? :-D
>
>
> https://paulba.no/paper/Babcock_Bergman.pdf
> https://paulba.no/paper/Alvager_et_al.pdf
> https://paulba.no/paper/Beckmann_Mandics.pdf
> https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf
> https://paulba.no/paper/Brecher.pdf

Brecher's experiment typifies the mistakes made by those who try to 
refute BaTh. For one thing, he ASSUMES certain stars are eclipsing 
because he sees a light curve like these:
http://www.scisite.info/fig3.jpg
They are not from eclipsing stars at all. They are purely a consequence 
of variable light speed from a stable star with a single orbiting planet..
His second mistake was to use VDoppler to calculate star orbit speeds 
when spectral displacements are mainly caused by ADoppler.

As I said, if you want to refute BaTh, you have to understand it first. 
Neither Brecher nor you has a clue.

>
> Even if all these experiments confirm SR,
> they don't falsify the BaTh, quite the contrary,
> the fact that they weren't designed to test the 'BaTh'
> make them  "Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v"!
>
> Right Ralph? :-D
>
> (But of course no experiment can falsify the 'BaTh',
>  because the 'BaTh' isn't falsifiable!
>  And that's a good thing, isn't it Ralph?)
>

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#398120

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-09 11:01 -0600
Message-ID<nvvkot$1ri3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398117
On 11/9/2016 10:04 AM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
> On 09/11/16 22:50, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> On 09.11.2016 01:40, HGW wrote:
>
>>> Any experiment that is designed to test a theory must include all
>>> factors relating to that theory, not to another conflicting one.
>>>
>>
>> So when an experiment designed to test the SR prediction
>> that the speed of light in vacuum is independent of
>> the speed of the source shows that the speed of light in vacuum
>> is independent of the speed of the source, it doesn't falsify
>> a theory which predicts that the speed of light in vacuum is
>> dependent on the speed of the source because the experiment wasn't
>> designed to test the theory that predicts the speed of light
>> in vacuum is dependent on the speed of the source? :-D
>>
>>
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Babcock_Bergman.pdf
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Alvager_et_al.pdf
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Beckmann_Mandics.pdf
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Brecher.pdf
>
> Brecher's experiment typifies the mistakes made by those who try to
> refute BaTh. For one thing, he ASSUMES certain stars are eclipsing
> because he sees a light curve like these:
> http://www.scisite.info/fig3.jpg
> They are not from eclipsing stars at all. They are purely a consequence
> of variable light speed from a stable star with a single orbiting planet..
> His second mistake was to use VDoppler to calculate star orbit speeds
> when spectral displacements are mainly caused by ADoppler.
>
> As I said, if you want to refute BaTh, you have to understand it first.
> Neither Brecher nor you has a clue.

This is a classic example of bad science.
It is saying "But I have a different theory that can explain this bit of 
data with an alternate explanation." It completely discounts the 
completely viable explanation that already exists, and ignores the other 
data that rule out the different theory being proposed.

>
>>
>> Even if all these experiments confirm SR,
>> they don't falsify the BaTh, quite the contrary,
>> the fact that they weren't designed to test the 'BaTh'
>> make them  "Irrefutable Proof That Light Moves at c+v"!
>>
>> Right Ralph? :-D
>>
>> (But of course no experiment can falsify the 'BaTh',
>>  because the 'BaTh' isn't falsifiable!
>>  And that's a good thing, isn't it Ralph?)
>>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#398237

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-11-11 12:56 +1100
Message-ID<o038gb$17rc$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398120
On 10/11/16 04:01, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 11/9/2016 10:04 AM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:

>> Brecher's experiment typifies the mistakes made by those who try to
>> refute BaTh. For one thing, he ASSUMES certain stars are eclipsing
>> because he sees a light curve like these:
>> http://www.scisite.info/fig3.jpg
>> They are not from eclipsing stars at all. They are purely a consequence
>> of variable light speed from a stable star with a single orbiting
>> planet..
>> His second mistake was to use VDoppler to calculate star orbit speeds
>> when spectral displacements are mainly caused by ADoppler.
>>
>> As I said, if you want to refute BaTh, you have to understand it first.
>> Neither Brecher nor you has a clue.
>
> This is a classic example of bad science.
> It is saying "But I have a different theory that can explain this bit of
> data with an alternate explanation." It completely discounts the
> completely viable explanation that already exists, and ignores the other
> data that rule out the different theory being proposed.

Bodkin, no even remotely viable explanation exists for the vast majority 
of variable stars. Guess why?

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#398267

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-11 08:53 -0600
Message-ID<o04m0a$16do$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398237
On 11/10/2016 7:56 PM, HGW wrote:
> On 10/11/16 04:01, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 11/9/2016 10:04 AM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
>
>>> Brecher's experiment typifies the mistakes made by those who try to
>>> refute BaTh. For one thing, he ASSUMES certain stars are eclipsing
>>> because he sees a light curve like these:
>>> http://www.scisite.info/fig3.jpg
>>> They are not from eclipsing stars at all. They are purely a consequence
>>> of variable light speed from a stable star with a single orbiting
>>> planet..
>>> His second mistake was to use VDoppler to calculate star orbit speeds
>>> when spectral displacements are mainly caused by ADoppler.
>>>
>>> As I said, if you want to refute BaTh, you have to understand it first.
>>> Neither Brecher nor you has a clue.
>>
>> This is a classic example of bad science.
>> It is saying "But I have a different theory that can explain this bit of
>> data with an alternate explanation." It completely discounts the
>> completely viable explanation that already exists, and ignores the other
>> data that rule out the different theory being proposed.
>
> Bodkin, no even remotely viable explanation exists for the vast majority
> of variable stars.

That's patently false. What is true is that those explanations are not 
accepted by you personally, because you personally favor your own 
explanation. The problem is, the aim of science is not to convince you. 
That would be pointless.

> Guess why?
>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#398351

From"HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2016-11-13 06:39 +1100
Message-ID<o07r4q$6fd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398267
On 12/11/16 01:53, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 11/10/2016 7:56 PM, HGW wrote:

>>>
>>> This is a classic example of bad science.
>>> It is saying "But I have a different theory that can explain this bit of
>>> data with an alternate explanation." It completely discounts the
>>> completely viable explanation that already exists, and ignores the other
>>> data that rule out the different theory being proposed.
>>
>> Bodkin, no even remotely viable explanation exists for the vast majority
>> of variable stars.
>
> That's patently false. What is true is that those explanations are not
> accepted by you personally, because you personally favor your own
> explanation. The problem is, the aim of science is not to convince you.
> That would be pointless.

Bodkin, why don't you read some of the published theories about 
individual variables. They are so riddled with assumptions that they 
amount to little more than pure guesswork.

>> Guess why?
>>
>>
>
>

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#398131

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2016-11-09 20:07 +0100
Message-ID<nvvs4v$qf0$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#398117
On 09.11.2016 17:04, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
> On 09/11/16 22:50, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Brecher.pdf
>
> Brecher's experiment typifies the mistakes made by those who try to
> refute BaTh. For one thing, he ASSUMES certain stars are eclipsing
> because he sees a light curve like these:
> http://www.scisite.info/fig3.jpg
> They are not from eclipsing stars at all. They are purely a consequence
> of variable light speed from a stable star with a single orbiting planet..
> His second mistake was to use VDoppler to calculate star orbit speeds
> when spectral displacements are mainly caused by ADoppler.
>
> As I said, if you want to refute BaTh, you have to understand it first.
> Neither Brecher nor you has a clue.
>

https://paulba.no/div/Brightening.pdf

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#398236

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-11-11 12:54 +1100
Message-ID<o038co$17rc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398131
On 10/11/16 06:07, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> On 09.11.2016 17:04, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
>> On 09/11/16 22:50, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>
>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Brecher.pdf
>>
>> Brecher's experiment typifies the mistakes made by those who try to
>> refute BaTh. For one thing, he ASSUMES certain stars are eclipsing
>> because he sees a light curve like these:
>> http://www.scisite.info/fig3.jpg
>> They are not from eclipsing stars at all. They are purely a consequence
>> of variable light speed from a stable star with a single orbiting
>> planet..
>> His second mistake was to use VDoppler to calculate star orbit speeds
>> when spectral displacements are mainly caused by ADoppler.
>>
>> As I said, if you want to refute BaTh, you have to understand it first.
>> Neither Brecher nor you has a clue.
>>
>
> https://paulba.no/div/Brightening.pdf

That is a perfect example of what I just said.
You are referring to the ballistic theory in the opinion of the 
aetherist community 120 years ago.

I have told you many times, according to BaTh, wavelength is an absolute 
length and an intrinic property of individual photons.
Movement BETWEEN photons continues for much longer than that WITHIN each 
photon....
That is a perfectly reasonable explanation.
THe fact hat Cepheid spectral curves are virtual mirror images of their 
brightness curves is convincing evidence that it is correct.

Cepheids are the most studied of all stars and are very easy to match 
with ballistic light. Other stars are often wrongly categorized because 
of a completely incorrect interpretation of their spectral curves.
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