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  Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-18 12:49 -0700
    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-19 09:16 -0700
    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-19 19:47 +0000
      Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-20 09:49 -0500
        Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-20 15:43 +0000
          Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 00:08 +0200
            Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-20 23:15 +0000
              Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 08:57 +0200
                Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 09:27 +0200
                  Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-21 13:41 +0000
                    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 15:45 +0200
                      Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-21 13:54 +0000
                Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-21 13:39 +0000
                  Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 15:43 +0200
                    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-21 13:58 +0000
          Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 15:35 -0700
            Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-20 23:13 +0000
              Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 16:47 -0700
                Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 18:26 -0700
                  Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 20:36 -0700
                    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-21 13:48 +0000
                  Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-21 13:44 +0000
                Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-21 00:36 -0700
                  Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-21 04:13 -0700
                    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-21 04:16 -0700
                      Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Dwain Foster <dwainbwe@tyrellysite.org> - 2016-10-22 13:34 +0000
                    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-21 13:45 +0000
                      Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 14:10 -0700
                  Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 14:09 -0700
                    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-21 23:21 +0200
                Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-21 13:43 +0000
                  Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 14:33 -0700
                    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-21 23:46 +0200
                      Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 16:40 -0700
                        Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-22 09:43 +0200
                          Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 12:27 -0700
                            Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-23 11:47 +0200
                              Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Edgar König <edgko@edgarkoenig.info> - 2016-10-23 11:51 +0000
                                Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-23 20:06 +0200
                              Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 14:06 -0700
                        Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-22 09:52 +0200
                          Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 12:28 -0700
                          Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 14:09 -0700
                            Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 14:12 -0700
                    Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Dwain Foster <dwainbwe@tyrellysite.org> - 2016-10-22 12:40 +0000
        Re: Einstein Teaches the Oligophrenic World Jim Barthel <jimbart@portlanportal.info> - 2016-10-20 15:43 +0000

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#396308

JanPB wrote:

>> >     2v/(1 + v^2) < 1   for   v < 1. Jan
>> 
>> You are all feeding the nymshifting troll. He is easily recognized as
>> he continuously use terms like "tensors", in unrelated texts, and call
>> Seto "Dr Kenseto".
> 
> Yes, I noticed his tensor fetish a while ago

Hence you likely feel insecure. I seen people running away from tensors. 
Must be something they don't understand.

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#396304

>> > > Incorrect.
>> > 
>> > Not when you insist calling it a Train driven by wheels.
>> 
>> Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as we
>> please. Hint:   2v/(1 + v^2) < 1   for   v < 1. Jan
> 
> You are all feeding the nymshifting troll. He is easily recognized as he
> continuously use terms like "tensors", in unrelated texts, and call Seto
> "Dr Kenseto".

Why are you reading my each and every post, when you are considering me 
being your friend troll, hmm? You should be ashamed of yourself, coming 
here on usenet lying. You must lack prerequites.

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#396272

W dniu piątek, 21 października 2016 01:47:14 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-7, Jim Barthel wrote:
> 
> Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as
> we please. Hint:

Hint: poor idiot Jan has no contact with reality,
and the creations of his imagination have no
limits at all (they are not even limited by any
logic, as Jan doesn't know any logic).

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#396284

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:36:52 AM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>
> Hint: poor idiot Jan has no contact with reality,
> and the creations of his imagination have no
> limits at all (they are not even limited by any
> logic, as Jan doesn't know any logic).

Moronic Lazy Witless Organism projects his own faults on others.
He confirms this every time he posts his nonsensical baloney.

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#396285

W dniu piątek, 21 października 2016 13:13:43 UTC+2 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał:
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:36:52 AM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >
> > Hint: poor idiot Jan has no contact with reality,
> > and the creations of his imagination have no
> > limits at all (they are not even limited by any
> > logic, as Jan doesn't know any logic).
> 
> Moronic Lazy Witless Organism projects his own faults on others.
> He confirms this every time he posts his nonsensical baloney.

Moronic Lazy Witless Organism projects his own faults on others.
He confirms this every time he posts his nonsensical baloney.

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#396403

Il giorno martedì 11 ottobre 2016 09:46:59 UTC+-4, mlwozniak ha scritto:

>> Moronic Lazy Witless Organism projects his own faults on others.
>> He confirms this every time he posts his nonsensical baloney.
> 
> Moronic Lazy Witless Organism projects his own faults on others.
> He confirms this every time he posts his nonsensical baloney.

He is my friend, he is so stupid.

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#396305

Gary Harnagel wrote:

> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:36:52 AM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>
>> Hint: poor idiot Jan has no contact with reality,
>> and the creations of his imagination have no limits at all (they are
>> not even limited by any logic, as Jan doesn't know any logic).
> 
> Moronic Lazy Witless Organism projects his own faults on others.
> He confirms this every time he posts his nonsensical baloney.

You appear affected.

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#396360

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 6:45:19 AM UTC-7, Jim Barthel wrote:
> Gary Harnagel wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:36:52 AM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >>
> >> Hint: poor idiot Jan has no contact with reality,
> >> and the creations of his imagination have no limits at all (they are
> >> not even limited by any logic, as Jan doesn't know any logic).
> > 
> > Moronic Lazy Witless Organism projects his own faults on others.
> > He confirms this every time he posts his nonsensical baloney.
> 
> You appear affected.

Why didn't you follow Maciej's post with the above statement? Just curious.

--
Jan

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#396359

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:36:52 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu piątek, 21 października 2016 01:47:14 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-7, Jim Barthel wrote:
> > 
> > Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as
> > we please. Hint:
> 
> Hint: poor idiot Jan has no contact with reality,
> and the creations of his imagination have no
> limits at all (they are not even limited by any
> logic, as Jan doesn't know any logic).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-EaXQ7uGPg

--
Jan

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#396361

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:9e265541-121c-4770-b5fa-6eb3b370230a@googlegroups.com...

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:36:52 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu piątek, 21 października 2016 01:47:14 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB 
> napisał:
> > On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-7, Jim Barthel wrote:
> >
> > Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as
> > we please. Hint:
>
> Hint: poor idiot Jan has no contact with reality,
> and the creations of his imagination have no
> limits at all (they are not even limited by any
> logic, as Jan doesn't know any logic).

|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-EaXQ7uGPg

Well, your answer was neither wiser, nor
stupider than your usual answers.

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#396302

JanPB wrote:

>> > Incorrect.
>> 
>> Not when you insist calling it a Train driven by wheels.
> 
> Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as we
> please. Hint:  2v/(1 + v^2) < 1   for   v < 1.

What is this?? You must be a CAD designer. If the top of the wheel is
going at (close to) c, at what speed is its center going at? You want
hints?

And since you say you are a CAD designer, in Math Modelling, let me
elaborate. The train is pushed and driven by its axles, not by the top of
the wheels. This is how this piece of equipment, called Train, works in
laboratories around the world.

Moreover, there are Two Interfaces, the Embankment to the Wheel and the
Wheel to the Train. The transport of Work is not done directly, in this
Configuration.

I'm not sure how the transfer is done when a Magnetic based propulsion is
embedded in stead of Wheels. It looks like direct, but I feel like it must
be not. Thank you for the equation.

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#396363

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 6:43:11 AM UTC-7, Jim Barthel wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> 
> >> > Incorrect.
> >> 
> >> Not when you insist calling it a Train driven by wheels.
> > 
> > Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as we
> > please. Hint:  2v/(1 + v^2) < 1   for   v < 1.
> 
> What is this?? You must be a CAD designer.

No, a mathematician.

> If the top of the wheel is
> going at (close to) c, at what speed is its center going at? You want
> hints?

People have already answered your question. Check the Internet for images
of rolling wheels in relativity. Be careful not to confuse the actual
_measured_ shape (points on the wheel that are simultaneous according
to the observer's frame) with the _visual appearance_ (or a photograph)
of such wheel. The latter adds the light signals delay phenomena on top
of the Lorentz contraction.

For example on this page you can see in the upper right-hand corner
the _measured_ wheel with spokes rolling left to right:
http://www.spacetimetravel.org/tompkins/node7.html

And here you can see its _visual appearance_ (third image from the top, the
blue wheel):
http://www.spacetimetravel.org/tompkins/node7.html

Notice the Lorentz contraction in some situations gets "cancelled" by
the signal delay effects. The blue spokes still look funny but the circular
outline of the wheel remains circular. It also appears rotated (the blue
wheel rolls along the thin black line!)

This is due to a general theorem in Minkowski geometry which says that
intersections of a fixed light cone with different spacelike surfaces
are conformally equivalent (so an object with a circular outline at rest
will _look_ like it remains circular when in motion, although
other details of its appearance may change, like those blue spokes).

The appearance of objects with circular outlines at fast speeds is also
known as "Terrell rotation".

> And since you say you are a CAD designer,

I never said that.

--
Jan

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#396364

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:900117a0-62e6-4fda-94d6-9d620502dcdd@googlegroups.com...

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 6:43:11 AM UTC-7, Jim Barthel wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> >> > Incorrect.
> >>
> >> Not when you insist calling it a Train driven by wheels.
> >
> > Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as we
> > please. Hint:  2v/(1 + v^2) < 1   for   v < 1.
>
> What is this?? You must be a CAD designer.

|No, a mathematician.

He is no mathematician. He is a sham. He doesn't
know the basics, neither in mathematics, nor in
anything else.

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#396365

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:46:49 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:900117a0-62e6-4fda-94d6-9d620502dcdd@googlegroups.com...
> 
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 6:43:11 AM UTC-7, Jim Barthel wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> >
> > >> > Incorrect.
> > >>
> > >> Not when you insist calling it a Train driven by wheels.
> > >
> > > Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as we
> > > please. Hint:  2v/(1 + v^2) < 1   for   v < 1.
> >
> > What is this?? You must be a CAD designer.
> 
> |No, a mathematician.
> 
> He is no mathematician. He is a sham. He doesn't
> know the basics, neither in mathematics, nor in
> anything else.

You write words with no meaning behind them, just like the words
you wrote above. Have you no shame? Just a few days ago everyone here
saw that you could not answer a simple question in Riemannian geometry.

The conclusion is obvious and left as an exercise to the reader.

--
Jan

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#396386

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:ba7db206-a4da-4cf5-aaaf-75e1dd6c6cfd@googlegroups.com...

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:46:49 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:900117a0-62e6-4fda-94d6-9d620502dcdd@googlegroups.com...
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 6:43:11 AM UTC-7, Jim Barthel wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> >
> > >> > Incorrect.
> > >>
> > >> Not when you insist calling it a Train driven by wheels.
> > >
> > > Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as 
> > > we
> > > please. Hint:  2v/(1 + v^2) < 1   for   v < 1.
> >
> > What is this?? You must be a CAD designer.
>
> |No, a mathematician.
>
> He is no mathematician. He is a sham. He doesn't
> know the basics, neither in mathematics, nor in
> anything else.

|You write words with no meaning behind them,

A lie.  Have you no shame? Just a few days ago everyone here
saw that you could not answer a simple question in metric
spaces. Google keeps record, poor idiot.
The conclusion is obvious and left as an exercise to the reader.

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#396450

On Saturday, October 22, 2016 at 12:43:21 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:ba7db206-a4da-4cf5-aaaf-75e1dd6c6cfd@googlegroups.com...
> 
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:46:49 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> > dyskusyjnych:900117a0-62e6-4fda-94d6-9d620502dcdd@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 6:43:11 AM UTC-7, Jim Barthel wrote:
> > > JanPB wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > Incorrect.
> > > >>
> > > >> Not when you insist calling it a Train driven by wheels.
> > > >
> > > > Even with train driven by wheels the train can move as close to c as 
> > > > we
> > > > please. Hint:  2v/(1 + v^2) < 1   for   v < 1.
> > >
> > > What is this?? You must be a CAD designer.
> >
> > |No, a mathematician.
> >
> > He is no mathematician. He is a sham. He doesn't
> > know the basics, neither in mathematics, nor in
> > anything else.
> 
> |You write words with no meaning behind them,
> 
> A lie.

It's a fact.

> Have you no shame?

You copy what I write again.

--
Jan

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#396509

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:1d3fad72-92b4-4b8e-aa52-a5df0ccad8fa@googlegroups.com...


> > He is no mathematician. He is a sham. He doesn't
> > know the basics, neither in mathematics, nor in
> > anything else.
>
> |You write words with no meaning behind them,
>
> A lie.

|It's a fact.

It's a lie, as expected from relativistic trash. You couldn't answer
a simple question in metric spaces. Do you want quotings?



|Point is you could not answer a simple question in Riemannian geometry.

No. Point is your moronic mumble is neither Riemannian geometry,
nor mathematics at all, and you couldn't answer a simple question
in metric spaces. You're no mathematician. You're a sham.

|Hence, you cannot provide a valid refutation of relativity on scientific 
grounds.

And you're even too stupid to notice I'm not trying to refute
The Shit of your insane guru on scientific grounds.

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#396515

W dniu poniedziałek, Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:47:13 +0200 użytkownik Maciej
Woźniak napisał:

> |Point is you could not answer a simple question in Riemannian geometry.
> 
> No. Point is your moronic mumble is neither Riemannian geometry,
> nor mathematics at all, and you couldn't answer a simple question in
> metric spaces. You're no mathematician. You're a sham.

Reimannian is a tensor.

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#396535

On 23.10.2016 13:51, Edgar König wrote:
 > []

It doesn't help to change your name,
the trolling idiot is recognized anyway.

One can but wonder what kind of mental disturbance make
a person constantly change his name and write nonsense only.

plonk

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#396554

On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 2:47:20 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:1d3fad72-92b4-4b8e-aa52-a5df0ccad8fa@googlegroups.com...
> 
> 
> > > He is no mathematician. He is a sham. He doesn't
> > > know the basics, neither in mathematics, nor in
> > > anything else.
> >
> > |You write words with no meaning behind them,
> >
> > A lie.
> 
> |It's a fact.
> 
> It's a lie, as expected from relativistic trash. 

No matter what you say (the topic is finished, by the way) you cannot reject relativity
on scientific grounds.

If you have other, non-scientific objections, post them on a new thread.

--
Jan

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