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Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute

Started by"HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....>
First post2016-08-23 05:34 +1000
Last post2016-08-26 17:28 -0500
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  Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-23 05:34 +1000
    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 14:58 -0500
      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-23 06:44 +1000
        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 15:57 -0500
          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-23 08:20 +1000
            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 07:11 -0500
              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-23 14:05 -0700
                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 16:24 -0500
                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-24 08:13 -0700
                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 10:55 -0500
                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 13:34 -0700
                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 15:51 -0500
                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-25 02:58 +1000
                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 14:59 -0500
                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 09:56 -0700
                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 12:22 -0500
                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-27 09:11 +1000
                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 07:52 -0500
              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-24 07:10 +1000
                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 16:26 -0500
          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-23 13:40 -0700
            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 15:59 -0500
              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-23 14:16 -0700
                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 16:28 -0500
                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-24 08:24 -0700
                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 10:58 -0500
                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 13:43 -0700
                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 15:54 -0500
                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 21:13 -0700
                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 15:14 -0500
                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-26 13:36 -0700
                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 21:39 -0700
                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-27 22:58 -0700
                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 06:34 -0700
                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-29 06:18 +1000
                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 11:28 -0500
                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-07 05:10 -0700
                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 07:49 -0500
                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-07 06:32 -0700
                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 09:04 -0500
                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-07 07:30 -0700
                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:23 -0500
                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 11:00 -0500
                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-07 14:14 -0700
                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 16:34 -0500
                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-09-08 13:21 +1000
                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:32 -0500
                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-09-09 08:47 +1000
                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:18 -0500
                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-10 06:12 +1000
                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 15:44 -0500
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-09 19:20 -0700
                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:23 -0500
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-09-10 13:39 +1000
                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:27 -0500
                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-12 19:56 +1000
                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:41 -0500
                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-13 09:27 +1000
                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:27 -0500
                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 08:43 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 10:49 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 08:42 +1000
                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 09:43 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-18 19:37 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:49 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-20 05:10 +1000
                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:20 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-19 22:40 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-21 19:13 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 07:53 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-22 08:17 +1000
                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-09 19:19 -0700
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-09-10 13:44 +1000
                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-10 04:10 -0700
                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-09-11 15:27 +1000
                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-11 07:59 -0700
                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-09-12 07:51 +1000
                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-11 17:41 -0700
                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-12 19:53 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:35 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-12 06:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-12 21:15 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-13 09:40 +1000
                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-13 07:01 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-13 10:35 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 09:01 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-13 18:43 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 23:51 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-14 01:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 18:18 +1000
                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 01:46 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 16:23 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 18:57 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 03:48 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 20:56 +1000
                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-14 04:43 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 08:49 +1000
                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-15 03:59 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:49 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 08:46 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:12 +1000
                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-18 19:55 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 11:52 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-14 13:46 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 08:47 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-16 05:33 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 08:48 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-16 07:16 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 09:57 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 16:18 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-16 12:32 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 14:39 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 13:38 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 08:09 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-18 06:27 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:56 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-16 13:48 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 08:09 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-18 06:45 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 10:02 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 20:42 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 13:57 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 22:03 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 22:16 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 06:05 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:57 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 08:05 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 17:22 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 08:52 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 18:34 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 09:56 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 19:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 19:07 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 10:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 19:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 11:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 20:13 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 11:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:28 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-17 13:52 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 13:23 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-17 20:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 02:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-20 20:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-21 19:34 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-21 05:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 08:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-21 06:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Python <python@org.invalid> - 2016-09-21 15:20 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-21 08:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 09:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-22 02:57 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-22 05:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 09:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-23 05:13 +1000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 14:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-22 16:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-23 08:06 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 23:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-23 05:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-23 05:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-23 07:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-23 07:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-18 23:06 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:33 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 12:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 13:04 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-18 23:04 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-17 18:50 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:26 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 19:00 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-18 03:32 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 02:33 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 08:10 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 07:47 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-18 10:59 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 11:38 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-18 15:52 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 00:22 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-19 01:50 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-19 06:24 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 14:45 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 01:36 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 00:30 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-19 07:50 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-19 06:05 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-19 07:15 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-19 12:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 13:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-23 08:16 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 07:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-23 07:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 09:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-23 08:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 10:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-24 05:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-20 05:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 05:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-20 06:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 08:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-20 10:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 07:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-21 05:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 08:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-21 06:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 09:29 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 14:50 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 10:49 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-20 03:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 23:58 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-20 13:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 11:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-20 19:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 13:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-20 15:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 13:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-20 22:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 00:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-21 13:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 13:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-20 20:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-21 00:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2016-09-20 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 00:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-21 13:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 13:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-22 15:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 08:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-20 06:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 10:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 07:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 13:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-21 16:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 15:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-21 17:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-09-21 18:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-23 14:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 16:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-23 17:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-24 06:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 00:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 00:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 05:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 06:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 06:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-22 17:25 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 09:11 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-22 18:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 11:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 23:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-22 19:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-22 18:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 13:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-22 19:48 +0200
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 11:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 23:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-28 10:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-28 13:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-29 14:54 +1000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-29 05:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-30 09:30 +1000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-29 19:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-01 05:30 +1000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-30 13:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-03 12:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-04 20:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 14:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-26 22:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 11:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-22 03:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 09:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 13:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 12:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 15:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 14:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 07:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-23 08:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 10:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-24 05:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 10:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 13:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 11:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-23 12:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 13:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-23 20:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 04:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-24 07:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 10:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-24 10:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 12:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-24 15:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-24 06:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 14:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 13:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 16:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 14:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 16:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 04:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 12:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 04:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-24 07:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 12:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-27 11:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-27 11:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 13:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-28 13:39 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 09:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-24 06:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-24 06:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 10:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 12:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 15:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 14:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 00:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-26 00:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 08:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-27 02:54 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 12:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-27 20:07 +1000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 12:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 06:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 11:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 13:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 14:58 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 17:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 17:21 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-28 14:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-28 23:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 00:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 14:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 00:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 10:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 13:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-29 14:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 11:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-30 13:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 13:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-30 17:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 09:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-01 12:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 03:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-02 05:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 05:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 16:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 13:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 03:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-27 17:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-27 19:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-29 03:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute me <crisdunbar@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 14:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 15:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-24 12:09 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-23 06:57 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-22 13:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 14:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-23 06:30 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-22 15:11 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-24 08:36 +1000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 19:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-23 20:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-24 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-26 00:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-25 23:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 00:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-09-26 10:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-26 01:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-26 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-26 06:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-09-26 21:23 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 12:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-09-28 15:23 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-27 07:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 10:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-26 18:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 10:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-25 11:53 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-25 23:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 13:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 23:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-27 11:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 13:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-27 17:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 08:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-28 23:18 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-20 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:18 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:11 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:19 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-20 00:09 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-20 21:09 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-20 05:06 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-19 06:53 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:25 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-19 11:39 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:05 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:19 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-19 12:36 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-19 16:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-20 05:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 08:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-20 10:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 12:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-21 05:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Python <python@org.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:48 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 08:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-21 13:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-09-21 20:33 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 07:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-21 06:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 08:08 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-20 02:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-20 00:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-20 13:37 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 08:37 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 17:42 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:02 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 10:30 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-17 05:25 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-17 14:22 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-18 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 02:07 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-19 20:03 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 14:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:21 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-19 07:07 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 18:05 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:54 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-20 05:24 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 13:41 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-23 05:25 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 14:34 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-23 06:54 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-27 02:57 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 12:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-27 09:30 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 08:50 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-17 18:43 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:04 +1000
                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 10:03 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-18 20:03 +1000
                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:50 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-20 05:04 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:20 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-20 05:56 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-21 19:18 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 07:56 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-22 03:05 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 10:26 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 14:02 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-22 08:13 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 15:36 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-22 12:11 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 09:28 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-23 05:47 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 15:07 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-23 06:52 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 16:49 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-23 08:13 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 07:02 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-23 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 09:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-24 05:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-24 15:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-24 15:11 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-25 02:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-25 17:29 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 17:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-27 03:02 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 08:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-29 14:48 +1000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 10:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-30 09:28 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 07:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-01 08:36 +1000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-02 17:58 +1100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-03 08:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-03 07:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-04 07:24 +1100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-10-06 07:55 +1100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-05 17:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-08 21:28 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-10-08 19:04 +0200
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 09:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-04 07:25 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-24 08:55 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 12:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-25 05:13 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 15:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-25 17:16 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 17:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-27 02:48 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 12:18 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-12 15:16 +0000
                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-08 05:57 -0700
                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:53 -0500
                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-08 20:12 -0500
                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 00:22 -0700
                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-09 00:47 -0700
                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:21 -0500
                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-09 06:13 -0700
                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-12 12:30 -0500
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 15:14 -0500
                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-12 22:59 -0500
                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:27 -0700
                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-13 10:31 -0500
                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-13 10:05 -0700
                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 10:30 -0700
                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-09 07:19 -0700
                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-12 12:45 -0500
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 15:16 -0500
                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-13 10:17 -0700
                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 15:14 -0500
                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-14 05:12 -0700
                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 11:54 -0500
                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-14 13:53 -0700
                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 08:48 -0500
                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 03:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-16 05:28 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 08:47 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 16:14 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 16:30 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-16 12:27 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 14:41 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-16 13:25 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 15:33 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-17 05:13 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 08:16 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-18 06:49 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 10:15 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 21:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-13 11:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 18:11 +1000
                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-14 13:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 08:39 +1000
                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 02:44 +0000
                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-09-09 13:46 +0200
                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-09 05:49 -0700
                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-09 06:48 -0700
                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-09 15:47 +0000
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-10 05:11 -0700
                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:46 -0700
                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 00:55 -0700
                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-09-10 11:56 +0200
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 06:57 -0700
                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-09-11 09:27 +0200
                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute thomas789@gmail.com - 2016-09-11 02:26 -0700
                                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-09-13 21:10 +0200
                                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 13:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-07 14:23 -0700
                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 10:25 -0500
                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-09 06:08 -0700
                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 09:29 -0500
                                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-10 05:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 18:00 -0500
                                                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-12 07:07 -0700
                                                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 12:24 -0500
                                                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-12 13:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 15:37 -0500
                                                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-13 10:26 -0700
                                                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 15:21 -0500
                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 09:06 -0700
                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-25 03:15 +1000
                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 10:26 -0700
                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-25 04:30 +1000
                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-25 07:02 -0700
                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 15:22 -0500
                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-27 09:19 +1000
                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-26 20:35 -0700
                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-27 08:21 +0200
                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-27 05:23 -0700
                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-27 16:26 +0200
                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 07:54 -0500
                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-07 05:18 +1000
                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 17:21 -0500
                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-09-08 13:13 +1000
                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:31 -0500
                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-09-09 08:45 +1000
                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 06:23 -0700
                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-06 20:33 +0200
                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-07 04:52 -0700
                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-07 13:32 +0000
                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-07 07:13 -0700
                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-07 19:02 +0000
                                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-07 14:06 -0700
                                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 16:29 -0500
                                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-09-08 05:43 -0700
                                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:48 -0500
                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 09:59 -0700
                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 13:45 -0700
                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 21:35 -0700
                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-27 22:48 -0700
                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 06:31 -0700
            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 16:22 -0700
              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-23 22:59 -0700
                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:11 -0700
              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-25 03:18 +1000
        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-27 06:11 +0000
          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-28 02:52 +1000
            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-28 02:59 +0000
              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-29 06:22 +1000
                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-29 00:48 +0000
    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-22 23:35 +0200
      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-23 08:22 +1000
        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-23 20:18 +0200
          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-24 07:13 +1000
            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-24 13:31 +0200
              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-25 03:23 +1000
                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-24 20:44 +0200
                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-27 09:13 +1000
      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-23 14:00 -0700
        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-24 13:02 +0200
          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-24 08:03 -0700
            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 10:54 -0500
              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 13:33 -0700
                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 15:50 -0500
                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 14:03 -0700
                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 16:18 -0500
            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-24 19:12 +0200
              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-24 19:00 -0700
                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-25 12:21 +0200
                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 06:57 -0700
                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-25 17:44 +0200
                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 09:47 -0700
                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-25 19:48 +0200
                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:42 -0500
                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 09:52 -0700
                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 12:21 -0500
                      Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 13:49 -0700
                        Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 15:57 -0500
                          Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 14:11 -0700
                            Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 16:22 -0500
                              Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-25 21:23 -0700
                                Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 15:14 -0500
                                  Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-26 13:29 -0700
                                    Re: Proof That Simultaneity is Absolute Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 17:28 -0500

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#390678

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-08-23 13:40 -0700
Message-ID<2666fdc9-4332-4fb4-b8cb-97ce5e9b9371@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#390598
On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 4:57:08 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/22/2016 3:44 PM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
> > On 23/08/16 05:58, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Throughout this whole discussion, you've stayed in one frame and one
> >> frame only. And in this one frame E2 and E1 are simultaneous. So what?
> >
> > Idiot! Th0ere are two frames....each rod defines one.
> >
> 
> Oh, but you only drew it from the perspective of a third frame, in which 
> both rods are moving.
> 
> There is no inertial frame that either of the rod defines, because as 
> you say, the motion of the rod is not constant and so cannot be at rest 
> in any inertial frame.
> 
> If you want to take a look at the last part of your thought experiment 
> where the two rods are approaching each other, we can certainly find a 
> frame where one of the rods is at rest and the other one is moving. In 
> this frame, one does not expect E1 and E2 to occur at the same time. 
> This is obvious because one rod is shorter than the other in this frame, 

This is nonsense......SR says that length contraction is not material and that length contraction is a projection effect. In Henry's thought experiment, no material contraction means that E1 and E2 to occur at the same time.

> and so it is physically impossible for the paired ends of the rods to 
> coincide at the same time. 

Assertion is not a valid argument.

>Isn't that obvious? In this frame, there's 
> going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length 
> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to 
> coincide at the same time?


You assumed material contraction when SR says that there is no material contraction. Gee you are confused.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#390681

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-23 15:59 -0500
Message-ID<npidg1$uit$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#390678
On 8/23/2016 3:40 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 4:57:08 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/22/2016 3:44 PM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
>>> On 23/08/16 05:58, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Throughout this whole discussion, you've stayed in one frame and one
>>>> frame only. And in this one frame E2 and E1 are simultaneous. So what?
>>>
>>> Idiot! Th0ere are two frames....each rod defines one.
>>>
>>
>> Oh, but you only drew it from the perspective of a third frame, in which
>> both rods are moving.
>>
>> There is no inertial frame that either of the rod defines, because as
>> you say, the motion of the rod is not constant and so cannot be at rest
>> in any inertial frame.
>>
>> If you want to take a look at the last part of your thought experiment
>> where the two rods are approaching each other, we can certainly find a
>> frame where one of the rods is at rest and the other one is moving. In
>> this frame, one does not expect E1 and E2 to occur at the same time.
>> This is obvious because one rod is shorter than the other in this frame,
>
> This is nonsense......SR says that length contraction is not material and
> that length contraction is a projection effect.

Yes.

> In Henry's thought experiment, no material contraction means that E1 and
> E2 to occur at the same time.

No, it doesn't.

>
>> and so it is physically impossible for the paired ends of the rods to
>> coincide at the same time.
>
> Assertion is not a valid argument.

See your above assertion. The one just before "No, it doesn't."

>
>> Isn't that obvious? In this frame, there's
>> going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
>> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to
>> coincide at the same time?
>
>
> You assumed material contraction when SR says that there is no material
> contraction. Gee you are confused.

I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply 
it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.

>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables


-- 
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#390688

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-08-23 14:16 -0700
Message-ID<8c62c9ed-9d9f-4ec3-afab-960faa3570c9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#390681
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/23/2016 3:40 PM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 4:57:08 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 8/22/2016 3:44 PM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
> >>> On 23/08/16 05:58, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Throughout this whole discussion, you've stayed in one frame and one
> >>>> frame only. And in this one frame E2 and E1 are simultaneous. So what?
> >>>
> >>> Idiot! Th0ere are two frames....each rod defines one.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Oh, but you only drew it from the perspective of a third frame, in which
> >> both rods are moving.
> >>
> >> There is no inertial frame that either of the rod defines, because as
> >> you say, the motion of the rod is not constant and so cannot be at rest
> >> in any inertial frame.
> >>
> >> If you want to take a look at the last part of your thought experiment
> >> where the two rods are approaching each other, we can certainly find a
> >> frame where one of the rods is at rest and the other one is moving. In
> >> this frame, one does not expect E1 and E2 to occur at the same time.
> >> This is obvious because one rod is shorter than the other in this frame,
> >
> > This is nonsense......SR says that length contraction is not material and
> > that length contraction is a projection effect.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > In Henry's thought experiment, no material contraction means that E1 and
> > E2 to occur at the same time.
> 
> No, it doesn't.
> 
> >
> >> and so it is physically impossible for the paired ends of the rods to
> >> coincide at the same time.
> >
> > Assertion is not a valid argument.
> 
> See your above assertion. The one just before "No, it doesn't."
> 
> >
> >> Isn't that obvious? In this frame, there's
> >> going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
> >> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to
> >> coincide at the same time?
> >
> >
> > You assumed material contraction when SR says that there is no material
> > contraction. Gee you are confused.
> 
> I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply 
> it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.

Yes you did.....you said that:
In this frame, there's going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time?

The rod length of L/gamma is material contraction....otherwise the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time.

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#390692

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-23 16:28 -0500
Message-ID<npif6c$114c$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#390688
On 8/23/2016 4:16 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:

>> I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply
>> it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.
>
> Yes you did.....you said that:
> In this frame, there's going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time?
>
> The rod length of L/gamma is material contraction.

No, it's not. I didn't say it was material, nor did I imply that it's 
material. Experimentally observed length contraction is not material 
contraction.

> ...otherwise the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#390758

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-08-24 08:24 -0700
Message-ID<8e322b9b-b048-48cf-920f-b8d141504f23@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#390692
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/23/2016 4:16 PM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> >> I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply
> >> it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.
> >
> > Yes you did.....you said that:
> > In this frame, there's going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
> > L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time?
> >
> > The rod length of L/gamma is material contraction.
> 
> No, it's not. I didn't say it was material, nor did I imply that it's 
> material. Experimentally observed length contraction is not material 
> contraction.

So "a rod length L/gamma that's passing it" is not material?....but then you compared the  material length L of the stationary rod with the moving material length of L/gamma to reach the bogus assertion that the ends of the rods cannot be coincided at all.
Are you just doing physics by whatever comes to your pea brain?

> 
> > ...otherwise the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time.
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#390761

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-24 10:58 -0500
Message-ID<npkg6g$qi$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#390758
On 8/24/2016 10:24 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/23/2016 4:16 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>
>>>> I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply
>>>> it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.
>>>
>>> Yes you did.....you said that:
>>> In this frame, there's going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
>>> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time?
>>>
>>> The rod length of L/gamma is material contraction.
>>
>> No, it's not. I didn't say it was material, nor did I imply that it's
>> material. Experimentally observed length contraction is not material
>> contraction.
>
> So "a rod length L/gamma that's passing it" is not material?

No, it's not.

> ....but then you compared the  material length L of the stationary rod

No, I compared the length L of the stationary rod. I never inserted the 
word "material". You did.

> with the moving material length of L/gamma

With the moving rod's length L/gamma. Not material length. You called it 
material length.

> to reach the bogus assertion that the ends of the rods cannot be coincided at all.
> Are you just doing physics by whatever comes to your pea brain?

The two lengths are not equal. They can't possibly line up both ends at 
the same time.

>
>>
>>> ...otherwise the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables


-- 
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#390912

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-08-25 13:43 -0700
Message-ID<7e0bc8ac-d3e7-4f0a-b740-b449bf83d88c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#390761
On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:58:11 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/24/2016 10:24 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 8/23/2016 4:16 PM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply
> >>>> it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.
> >>>
> >>> Yes you did.....you said that:
> >>> In this frame, there's going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
> >>> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time?
> >>>
> >>> The rod length of L/gamma is material contraction.
> >>
> >> No, it's not. I didn't say it was material, nor did I imply that it's
> >> material. Experimentally observed length contraction is not material
> >> contraction.
> >
> > So "a rod length L/gamma that's passing it" is not material?
> 
> No, it's not.
> 
> > ....but then you compared the  material length L of the stationary rod
> 
> No, I compared the length L of the stationary rod. I never inserted the 
> word "material". You did.

So length L in your stationary frame is not material??? So when you use a ruler to measure length the ruler is not material??? you are such a fanatical arsehole.
> 
> > with the moving material length of L/gamma
> 
> With the moving rod's length L/gamma. Not material length. You called it 
> material length.
> 
> > to reach the bogus assertion that the ends of the rods cannot be coincided at all.
> > Are you just doing physics by whatever comes to your pea brain?
> 
> The two lengths are not equal. They can't possibly line up both ends at 
> the same time.

Why isn't it? You asserted that there is no material shrinkage.

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#390917

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-25 15:54 -0500
Message-ID<npnlu7$13m0$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#390912
On 8/25/2016 3:43 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:58:11 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/24/2016 10:24 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 8/23/2016 4:16 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply
>>>>>> it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes you did.....you said that:
>>>>> In this frame, there's going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
>>>>> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time?
>>>>>
>>>>> The rod length of L/gamma is material contraction.
>>>>
>>>> No, it's not. I didn't say it was material, nor did I imply that it's
>>>> material. Experimentally observed length contraction is not material
>>>> contraction.
>>>
>>> So "a rod length L/gamma that's passing it" is not material?
>>
>> No, it's not.
>>
>>> ....but then you compared the  material length L of the stationary rod
>>
>> No, I compared the length L of the stationary rod. I never inserted the
>> word "material". You did.
>
> So length L in your stationary frame is not material???

Ken, material length contraction doesn't mean you use a material ruler 
to measure it. Good fucking grief.

Are you REALLY going to say that if length contraction is measured with 
a material instrument, then it is material length contraction?

> So when you use a ruler to measure length the ruler is not material??? you are such a fanatical arsehole.
>>
>>> with the moving material length of L/gamma
>>
>> With the moving rod's length L/gamma. Not material length. You called it
>> material length.
>>
>>> to reach the bogus assertion that the ends of the rods cannot be coincided at all.
>>> Are you just doing physics by whatever comes to your pea brain?
>>
>> The two lengths are not equal. They can't possibly line up both ends at
>> the same time.
>
> Why isn't it? You asserted that there is no material shrinkage.

Two objects of DIFFERENT LENGTH cannot ever be positioned so that their 
ends line up at the same time. Are you nuts?


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#390963

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-08-25 21:13 -0700
Message-ID<309c91ed-991b-46cb-9b58-70fc03492acd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#390917
On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 4:54:35 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/25/2016 3:43 PM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:58:11 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 8/24/2016 10:24 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 8/23/2016 4:16 PM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply
> >>>>>> it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes you did.....you said that:
> >>>>> In this frame, there's going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
> >>>>> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The rod length of L/gamma is material contraction.
> >>>>
> >>>> No, it's not. I didn't say it was material, nor did I imply that it's
> >>>> material. Experimentally observed length contraction is not material
> >>>> contraction.
> >>>
> >>> So "a rod length L/gamma that's passing it" is not material?
> >>
> >> No, it's not.
> >>
> >>> ....but then you compared the  material length L of the stationary rod
> >>
> >> No, I compared the length L of the stationary rod. I never inserted the
> >> word "material". You did.
> >
> > So length L in your stationary frame is not material???
> 
> Ken, material length contraction doesn't mean you use a material ruler 
> to measure it. Good fucking grief.

Idiot in Henry's thought experiment it is material....Good fucking grief.

> 
> Are you REALLY going to say that if length contraction is measured with 
> a material instrument, then it is material length contraction?

Good fucking grief.....it is in Henry's thought experiment. You said:
You compared the material length of a meter stick in your frame to a contracted material length of L/gamma of a moving meter stick to reach the assertion that the ends can never be coincided as they move past each other. This is true only if the contraction is material.   
This means that your RoS is toasted. This also mean that all the paradoxes of SR derived from the P2 remain unexplained.
> 
> > So when you use a ruler to measure length the ruler is not material??? you are such a fanatical arsehole.



> >>
> >>> with the moving material length of L/gamma
> >>
> >> With the moving rod's length L/gamma. Not material length. You called it
> >> material length.
> >>
> >>> to reach the bogus assertion that the ends of the rods cannot be coincided at all.
> >>> Are you just doing physics by whatever comes to your pea brain?
> >>
> >> The two lengths are not equal. They can't possibly line up both ends at
> >> the same time.
> >
> > Why isn't it? You asserted that there is no material shrinkage.
> 
> Two objects of DIFFERENT LENGTH cannot ever be positioned so that their 
> ends line up at the same time. Are you nuts?

IDIOT...This is true only if the objects are of DIFFERENT MATERIAL LENGTH.

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#390998

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-26 15:14 -0500
Message-ID<npq7ue$1baa$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#390963
On 8/25/2016 11:13 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 4:54:35 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/25/2016 3:43 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:58:11 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 8/24/2016 10:24 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/23/2016 4:16 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply
>>>>>>>> it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes you did.....you said that:
>>>>>>> In this frame, there's going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
>>>>>>> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rod length of L/gamma is material contraction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it's not. I didn't say it was material, nor did I imply that it's
>>>>>> material. Experimentally observed length contraction is not material
>>>>>> contraction.
>>>>>
>>>>> So "a rod length L/gamma that's passing it" is not material?
>>>>
>>>> No, it's not.
>>>>
>>>>> ....but then you compared the  material length L of the stationary rod
>>>>
>>>> No, I compared the length L of the stationary rod. I never inserted the
>>>> word "material". You did.
>>>
>>> So length L in your stationary frame is not material???
>>
>> Ken, material length contraction doesn't mean you use a material ruler
>> to measure it. Good fucking grief.
>
> Idiot in Henry's thought experiment it is material....Good fucking grief.
>
>>
>> Are you REALLY going to say that if length contraction is measured with
>> a material instrument, then it is material length contraction?
>
> Good fucking grief.....it is in Henry's thought experiment. You said:

If you think I said anything like what you wrote below, then you are 
insane and cannot read. There was no meter stick in anything that Henry 
wrote or in what I wrote.

I also think it is hysterical that you believe that if length is 
measured with a material meter stick, then this means length contraction 
must be material contraction.

> You compared the material length of a meter stick in your frame to a contracted
> material length of L/gamma of a moving meter stick to reach the assertion that
> the ends can never be coincided as they move past each other. This is true only
> if the contraction is material.
> This means that your RoS is toasted. This also mean that all the paradoxes of
> SR derived from the P2 remain unexplained.
>>
>>> So when you use a ruler to measure length the ruler is not material??? you
>>> are such a fanatical arsehole.
>
>
>
>>>>
>>>>> with the moving material length of L/gamma
>>>>
>>>> With the moving rod's length L/gamma. Not material length. You called it
>>>> material length.
>>>>
>>>>> to reach the bogus assertion that the ends of the rods cannot be coincided at all.
>>>>> Are you just doing physics by whatever comes to your pea brain?
>>>>
>>>> The two lengths are not equal. They can't possibly line up both ends at
>>>> the same time.
>>>
>>> Why isn't it? You asserted that there is no material shrinkage.
>>
>> Two objects of DIFFERENT LENGTH cannot ever be positioned so that their
>> ends line up at the same time. Are you nuts?
>
> IDIOT...This is true only if the objects are of DIFFERENT MATERIAL LENGTH.

Nope. Not so. Nor does your assertion make it so.



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#391001

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-08-26 13:36 -0700
Message-ID<29d78350-fe68-465e-9df1-9f2732f11e01@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#390998
On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 4:14:10 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/25/2016 11:13 PM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 4:54:35 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 8/25/2016 3:43 PM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:58:11 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 8/24/2016 10:24 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/23/2016 4:16 PM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I did not assume material contraction. I didn't say it, nor did I imply
> >>>>>>>> it. If you dream things up like this, I can't help that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes you did.....you said that:
> >>>>>>> In this frame, there's going to be a rod of length L that's stationary, and a rod of length
> >>>>>>> L/gamma that's passing it. How are the ends of those two rods going to coincide at the same time?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The rod length of L/gamma is material contraction.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No, it's not. I didn't say it was material, nor did I imply that it's
> >>>>>> material. Experimentally observed length contraction is not material
> >>>>>> contraction.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So "a rod length L/gamma that's passing it" is not material?
> >>>>
> >>>> No, it's not.
> >>>>
> >>>>> ....but then you compared the  material length L of the stationary rod
> >>>>
> >>>> No, I compared the length L of the stationary rod. I never inserted the
> >>>> word "material". You did.
> >>>
> >>> So length L in your stationary frame is not material???
> >>
> >> Ken, material length contraction doesn't mean you use a material ruler
> >> to measure it. Good fucking grief.
> >
> > Idiot in Henry's thought experiment it is material....Good fucking grief.
> >
> >>
> >> Are you REALLY going to say that if length contraction is measured with
> >> a material instrument, then it is material length contraction?
> >
> > Good fucking grief.....it is in Henry's thought experiment. You said:
> 
> If you think I said anything like what you wrote below, then you are 
> insane and cannot read. There was no meter stick in anything that Henry 
> wrote or in what I wrote.

Idiot a meter stick is the rod in Henry's experiment.
> 
> I also think it is hysterical that you believe that if length is 
> measured with a material meter stick, then this means length contraction 
> must be material contraction.

But when you insisted that a moving meter stick is shorter by a factor of 1/gamma and that's why its end cannot be coincide with a stationary meter stick.....such assertion means that you are comparing material length. 

> 
> > You compared the material length of a meter stick in your frame to a contracted
> > material length of L/gamma of a moving meter stick to reach the assertion that
> > the ends can never be coincided as they move past each other. This is true only
> > if the contraction is material.
> > This means that your RoS is toasted. This also mean that all the paradoxes of
> > SR derived from the P2 remain unexplained.
> >>
> >>> So when you use a ruler to measure length the ruler is not material??? you
> >>> are such a fanatical arsehole.
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>> with the moving material length of L/gamma
> >>>>
> >>>> With the moving rod's length L/gamma. Not material length. You called it
> >>>> material length.
> >>>>
> >>>>> to reach the bogus assertion that the ends of the rods cannot be coincided at all.
> >>>>> Are you just doing physics by whatever comes to your pea brain?
> >>>>
> >>>> The two lengths are not equal. They can't possibly line up both ends at
> >>>> the same time.
> >>>
> >>> Why isn't it? You asserted that there is no material shrinkage.
> >>
> >> Two objects of DIFFERENT LENGTH cannot ever be positioned so that their
> >> ends line up at the same time. Are you nuts?
> >
> > IDIOT...This is true only if the objects are of DIFFERENT MATERIAL LENGTH.
> 
> Nope. Not so. Nor does your assertion make it so.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#391094

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-27 21:39 -0700
Message-ID<f96010b5-6353-4a4e-aa64-6fbcbce9ab3d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391001
On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 4:36:13 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:

> such assertion means that you are comparing material length. 

Idiot ken, I ordered you to never use the expression 'material length' again...and here you go using it. There will be consequences. Dont blame me if your computer starts acting up or that you can no longer boot it. 

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#391101

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-08-27 22:58 -0700
Message-ID<e644e0ce-0af7-42d5-8fcd-098100f65196@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391094
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 12:39:39 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
> On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 4:36:13 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > such assertion means that you are comparing material length. 
> 
> Idiot ken, I ordered you to never use the expression 'material length' again...and here you go using it. There will be consequences. Dont blame me if your computer starts acting up or that you can no longer boot it.

SR says that there is no material contraction but then SRians uses the concept of material length contraction to explain the concept of RoS.

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#391112

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-28 06:34 -0700
Message-ID<494abd7c-a2aa-4e49-aa09-854daeee85db@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391101
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 1:58:52 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:

> SR says that there is no material contraction 

Another lie by idiot ken.
Idiot ken, show us one SR book that makes such a claim...

It is *you*  and only YOU that has used the expression "material length"


> but then SRians uses the concept of material length contraction
>  to explain the concept of RoS.

Another lie from idiot ken. So now you resort to explicit lies to defend your wrong points. How pathetic and disgraceful you are to your own kind.

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#391138

From"HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2016-08-29 06:18 +1000
Message-ID<npvgte$pfg$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#391112
On 28/08/16 23:34, rotchm virtually admitted he was a brainwashed idiot:

> It is *you*  and only YOU that has used the expression "material
> length"
>
>
>> but then SRians uses the concept of material length contraction to
>> explain the concept of RoS.
>
> Another lie from idiot ken. So now you resort to explicit lies to
> defend your wrong points. How pathetic and disgraceful you are to
> your own kind.

Ken is quite correct here. Without material contraction, the two rod 
ends MUST line up at the same absolute instant...and my proof is verified.

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#391622

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-06 11:28 -0500
Message-ID<nqmqrn$1qf7$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#391101
On 8/28/2016 12:58 AM, kenseto wrote:
> SR says that there is no material contraction but then SRians uses the concept of
> material length contraction to explain the concept of RoS.

Books that describe SR never use the term "material length contraction". 
Any interpretation that relativistic contraction is material is a 
fabrication from your own mind.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#391687

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-09-07 05:10 -0700
Message-ID<02f9c4da-ff42-4d81-a0ae-c996138b174b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391622
On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 12:28:42 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/28/2016 12:58 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > SR says that there is no material contraction but then SRians uses the concept of
> > material length contraction to explain the concept of RoS.
> 
> Books that describe SR never use the term "material length contraction". 
> Any interpretation that relativistic contraction is material is a 
> fabrication from your own mind.
 
It is irrelevant whether any SR book mentioned material contraction.
No material contraction means that the ends of the moving rods in Henry's experiment will line up perfectly and materially. That in turn will falsify the concept of RoS and that in turn will make the paradoxes derived from P2 will not go away. Get it?

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#391692

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-07 07:49 -0500
Message-ID<nqp2bu$138d$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#391687
On 9/7/2016 7:10 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 12:28:42 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/28/2016 12:58 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> SR says that there is no material contraction but then SRians uses the concept of
>>> material length contraction to explain the concept of RoS.
>>
>> Books that describe SR never use the term "material length contraction".
>> Any interpretation that relativistic contraction is material is a
>> fabrication from your own mind.
>
> It is irrelevant whether any SR book mentioned material contraction.

I disagree. When you characterize SR, you must not ADD YOUR OWN features 
to SR, like "material contraction". When you add stuff like this, you 
are no longer talking about SR but "Seto's version of SR". It's already 
firmly established that "Seto's version of SR" is experimentally false 
and internally inconsistent. But nobody cares about that, because the 
real SR is different than "Seto's version of SR".

> No material contraction means that the ends of the moving rods in Henry's
> experiment will line up perfectly and materially. That in turn will falsify
> the concept of RoS and that in turn will make the paradoxes derived from P2
> will not go away. Get it?
>


-- 
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#391694

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-09-07 06:32 -0700
Message-ID<de2c924e-5584-4797-84c1-e8e3182ce366@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391692
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:49:05 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/7/2016 7:10 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 12:28:42 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 8/28/2016 12:58 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> SR says that there is no material contraction but then SRians uses the concept of
> >>> material length contraction to explain the concept of RoS.
> >>
> >> Books that describe SR never use the term "material length contraction".
> >> Any interpretation that relativistic contraction is material is a
> >> fabrication from your own mind.
> >
> > It is irrelevant whether any SR book mentioned material contraction.
> 
> I disagree. When you characterize SR, you must not ADD YOUR OWN features 
> to SR, like "material contraction". 

I didn't add any features......SR does say that the ends of the rods in Henry's experiment will not be coincide materially due to RoS. The only way this is feasible is that the moving rod is contracted materially.

>When you add stuff like this, you 
> are no longer talking about SR but "Seto's version of SR". It's already 
> firmly established that "Seto's version of SR" is experimentally false 
> and internally inconsistent. But nobody cares about that, because the 
> real SR is different than "Seto's version of SR".
> 
> > No material contraction means that the ends of the moving rods in Henry's
> > experiment will line up perfectly and materially. That in turn will falsify
> > the concept of RoS and that in turn will make the paradoxes derived from P2
> > will not go away. Get it?
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#391697

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-07 09:04 -0500
Message-ID<nqp6q2$1ajt$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#391694
On 9/7/2016 8:32 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:49:05 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 9/7/2016 7:10 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 12:28:42 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 8/28/2016 12:58 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> SR says that there is no material contraction but then SRians uses the concept of
>>>>> material length contraction to explain the concept of RoS.
>>>>
>>>> Books that describe SR never use the term "material length contraction".
>>>> Any interpretation that relativistic contraction is material is a
>>>> fabrication from your own mind.
>>>
>>> It is irrelevant whether any SR book mentioned material contraction.
>>
>> I disagree. When you characterize SR, you must not ADD YOUR OWN features
>> to SR, like "material contraction".
>
> I didn't add any features......SR does say that the ends of the rods in Henry's
> experiment will not be coincide materially due to RoS.

No, it doesn't say that. It doesn't use the word "materially" at all. 
That is "Seto's version of SR".

> The only way this is feasible is that the moving rod is contracted materially.

Again, that is a statement that comes ONLY from you. It is something 
you've added. It is "Seto's version of SR" and is already known to be 
experimentally false and internally inconsistent. But nobody cares.

>
>> When you add stuff like this, you
>> are no longer talking about SR but "Seto's version of SR". It's already
>> firmly established that "Seto's version of SR" is experimentally false
>> and internally inconsistent. But nobody cares about that, because the
>> real SR is different than "Seto's version of SR".
>>
>>> No material contraction means that the ends of the moving rods in Henry's
>>> experiment will line up perfectly and materially. That in turn will falsify
>>> the concept of RoS and that in turn will make the paradoxes derived from P2
>>> will not go away. Get it?
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>


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