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QM and GR.

Started byY <yanarchi@hotmail.com>
First post2016-07-09 08:20 -0700
Last post2016-07-15 17:06 -0700
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  QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-09 08:20 -0700
    Re: QM and GR. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 18:02 +0200
      Re: QM and GR. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-09 16:51 -0700
        Re: QM and GR. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-09 17:55 -0700
    Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-10 07:16 +0200
      Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-11 06:04 +0200
    Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 08:25 -0500
    Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-10 10:28 -0500
      Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 08:00 -0700
        Re: QM and GR. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 17:08 +0200
          Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 08:12 -0700
        Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 08:08 -0700
          Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:42 -0500
            Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:07 -0700
              Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:15 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Y <yanarchi@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:29 -0700
            Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-14 22:48 +0200
              Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 16:30 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-15 07:03 +0200
                  Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 07:37 -0500
                    Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-15 22:56 +0200
                      Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 13:02 -0500
                        Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-16 22:17 +0200
                          Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 16:47 -0500
                            Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-18 07:09 +0200
                          Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-17 10:17 -0500
                            Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-18 06:56 +0200
      Re: QM and GR. Jack Chardy <jackc@outlool.org> - 2016-07-11 15:27 +0000
        Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-16 15:31 +1000
          Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-16 12:15 -0700
            Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-18 15:01 +1000
          Re: QM and GR. Greg Buttler <grgb@novotnysite.org> - 2016-07-22 16:09 +0000
            Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-25 12:21 +1000
              Re: QM and GR. Tsvetana Kasatkina <tzve@noemail.info> - 2016-07-29 20:23 +0000
          Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-22 22:39 -0500
            Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-23 08:14 +0200
              Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:43 -0500
              Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-23 12:33 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-23 22:41 +0200
                  Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-24 07:12 +0200
                  Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-26 09:21 +0200
                Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-27 07:11 +0200
            Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-23 11:21 -0700
              Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 22:39 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-25 09:12 +0200
                  Re: QM and GR. paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 07:02 -0700
                    Re: QM and GR. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-25 16:23 +0200
                      Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 12:44 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-25 10:22 -0700
                  Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 12:15 -0500
                    Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-29 13:51 -0700
                      Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 16:04 -0500
                        Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 11:32 -0700
                          Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:19 -0500
                            Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 12:35 -0700
                              Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:56 -0500
                                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 13:37 -0700
                                  Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 16:09 -0500
                                    Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 15:03 -0700
                                      Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 17:11 -0500
                                        Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 16:05 -0700
                                          Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:17 -0500
                                            Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-01 12:30 -0700
                                              Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 15:11 -0500
                                                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-01 13:36 -0700
                                                  Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 17:02 -0500
                      Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-30 08:27 -0500
                        Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-31 12:25 -0700
                          Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 13:47 -0700
                            Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-01 14:17 -0700
                            Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 17:04 -0500
                              Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-01 18:01 -0700
                                Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 19:57 -0700
                                  Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:04 -0500
                                    Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 12:37 -0700
                                  Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-05 08:37 -0700
                                    Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 12:40 -0700
                                      Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-06 14:47 -0700
                                        Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 13:16 -0700
                                          Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-08 13:25 -0700
                                            Re: QM and GR. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 14:16 -0700
                                              Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-10 10:52 -0700
            Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-25 16:45 +1000
              Re: QM and GR. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-25 16:46 +1000
              Re: QM and GR. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 11:08 +0200
              Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 12:28 -0500
                Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-25 10:51 -0700
                Re: QM and GR. wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2016-07-26 12:11 +0200
                  Re: QM and GR. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 12:11 -0500
                    Re: QM and GR. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-29 10:20 +0200
                      Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 07:13 -0500
                      Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-08-07 15:36 +0000
                        Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-07 11:16 -0700
                          Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 13:21 -0700
                            Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-08 13:36 -0700
                      Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-07 12:31 -0500
                        Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-08 06:57 -0500
                      Re: The rate at which the time axis grows, relative to the spatial dimensions. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-08 07:18 +0200
                        Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-08 10:10 -0700
                        Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-08 11:02 -0700
                          Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-08 13:14 -0500
                        Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-08 22:52 +0200
                          Re: Nature decides _everything_. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-09 08:42 +0200
                            Re: Nature decides _everything_. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:16 -0700
                              Re: Nature decides _everything_. "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:49 -0700
                            Re: Nature programmed you to choose one over the other. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 12:09 -0700
                              Re: Nature programmed you to choose one over the other. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 13:35 -0700
                                Re: Nature programmed you to choose one over the other. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-09 23:53 +0200
                              Re: Nature programmed you to choose one over the other. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-09 18:17 -0400
                          Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-09 06:51 -0500
                            Re: _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-09 17:51 -0400
                Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-02 06:41 -0700
                  Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 23:55 -0500
                    Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-03 05:27 -0700
                      Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 07:39 -0500
                        Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-05 05:25 -0700
                          Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 08:07 -0500
                            Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-06 07:51 -0700
                              Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 15:57 -0500
                                Re: QM and GR. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-06 14:49 -0700
                                  Re: QM and GR. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 17:30 -0500
    Re: QM and GR. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-15 17:06 -0700

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#388901

Fromastrofoton@interia.pl
Date2016-07-31 16:05 -0700
Message-ID<cb528107-6756-4c16-951a-e4a3daa98beb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388897
W dniu poniedziałek, 1 sierpnia 2016 00:11:06 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin 

> > It's an observation, but any observation is incomplete,
> > thus it leads to the fallacies.. the stupid beings like you are.
> 
> Ah, so you you believe that observations in science are pointless and 
> show nothing, as they can be misinterpreted?

Indeed.
 
> You don't believe in the scientific method?

Yes.
I never use any belief based method in the... methodology... :)

> So make the mathematical proofs of your claims.
> So you're not going to try to prove it?

Stupid men are strongly impregnated against any proof - they just believe.
Go to a guru, mentor, shaman, wizard... and he show you the proof.. he wants only. :)

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#388929

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-01 08:17 -0500
Message-ID<nnni5s$8nf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#388901
On 7/31/2016 6:05 PM, astrofoton@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu poniedziałek, 1 sierpnia 2016 00:11:06 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin
>
>>> It's an observation, but any observation is incomplete,
>>> thus it leads to the fallacies.. the stupid beings like you are.
>>
>> Ah, so you you believe that observations in science are pointless and
>> show nothing, as they can be misinterpreted?
>
> Indeed.

Aha.

>
>> You don't believe in the scientific method?
>
> Yes.
> I never use any belief based method in the... methodology... :)

Ah, so let's get this straight. You're spending a lot of time on a 
newsgroup devoted to fans of science. Science by definition is the 
investigation of how nature operates by using the scientific method. And 
so you are spending a lot of time on a newsgroup for fans of science 
proclaiming that you do not like science or its output or its method.

So tell me, do you also go to medicine groups and tell them that you 
don't believe in medicine or its methods? Do you go to engineering 
groups and tell them that you don't believe in engineering and its 
methods? Do you go to math groups and them you don't believe in math and 
its methods?

Why are you here, wasting your time on a subject you don't believe in?

>
>> So make the mathematical proofs of your claims.
>> So you're not going to try to prove it?
>
> Stupid men are strongly impregnated against any proof - they just believe.
> Go to a guru, mentor, shaman, wizard... and he show you the proof.. he wants only. :)
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#388981

Fromastrofoton@interia.pl
Date2016-08-01 12:30 -0700
Message-ID<ab5ada07-ee9a-463b-a5f4-09ffde93da4b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388929
W dniu poniedziałek, 1 sierpnia 2016 15:17:51 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin 

> >> You don't believe in the scientific method?
> >
> > Yes.
> > I never use any belief based method in the... methodology... :)
> 
> Ah, so let's get this straight. You're spending a lot of time on a 
> newsgroup devoted to fans of science. Science by definition is the 
> investigation of how nature operates by using the scientific method. And 
> so you are spending a lot of time on a newsgroup for fans of science 
> proclaiming that you do not like science or its output or its method.

Indeed.
I dont and cant like the improvised pseudoscience you proposed for me.
 
> So tell me, do you also go to medicine groups and tell them that you 
> don't believe in medicine or its methods?

The same, maybe even more:
I'm not interested in any fantastic methods, achievements,
of a pseudoscience in the medical domain!

> Do you go to engineering groups and tell them that you don't believe in engineering and its methods? Do you go to math groups and them you don't believe in math and its methods?

I just use the engineering methodology, thus I can see
you are a stupid child - the whole relativity fallacious concept
is a stupidity... nothing more!
 
> Why are you here, wasting your time on a subject you don't believe in?

It's my will what I to do - you have nothing to my private intentions.
So, go away, stupid bandit.
 

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#388984

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-01 15:11 -0500
Message-ID<nnoadm$1iap$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#388981
On 8/1/2016 2:30 PM, astrofoton@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu poniedziałek, 1 sierpnia 2016 15:17:51 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin
>
>>>> You don't believe in the scientific method?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>> I never use any belief based method in the... methodology... :)
>>
>> Ah, so let's get this straight. You're spending a lot of time on a
>> newsgroup devoted to fans of science. Science by definition is the
>> investigation of how nature operates by using the scientific method. And
>> so you are spending a lot of time on a newsgroup for fans of science
>> proclaiming that you do not like science or its output or its method.
>
> Indeed.
> I dont and cant like the improvised pseudoscience you proposed for me.

Well, since the scientific method *defines* science, it doesn't really 
matter that you label it pseudoscience. It's just science, and using the 
scientific method is central to it, and has been since Galileo, whether 
you like science or not.

>
>> So tell me, do you also go to medicine groups and tell them that you
>> don't believe in medicine or its methods?
>
> The same, maybe even more:
> I'm not interested in any fantastic methods, achievements,
> of a pseudoscience in the medical domain!

If you were not interested, you would not be here. People who don't 
believe in astrology usually don't spend all their time in astrology 
communities, either.

>
>> Do you go to engineering groups and tell them that you don't believe in
>> engineering and its methods? Do you go to math groups and them you don't
>> believe in math and its methods?
>
> I just use the engineering methodology, thus I can see
> you are a stupid child - the whole relativity fallacious concept
> is a stupidity... nothing more!

Ah. So if you believe in engineering and not science, then why are you 
spending all your time in a science group rather than in engineering groups?

>
>> Why are you here, wasting your time on a subject you don't believe in?
>
> It's my will what I to do - you have nothing to my private intentions.
> So, go away, stupid bandit.

You're right, I don't know your private intentions, which is why I 
*asked* you what your intentions are in wasting your time here. As for 
going away, I'm a fan of science and so this newsgroup is built for 
people like me. You're not a fan of science, and so there's no reason 
for you to be here. So why aren't you the one to go away?


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#388992

Fromastrofoton@interia.pl
Date2016-08-01 13:36 -0700
Message-ID<9aa057d0-12e7-49c1-b093-34eaa37407f0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388984
W dniu poniedziałek, 1 sierpnia 2016 22:11:38 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin 
> I dont and cant like the improvised pseudoscience you proposed for me.
> 
> Well, since the scientific method *defines* science, it doesn't really 
> matter that you label it pseudoscience. It's just science, and using the 
> scientific method is central to it, and has been since Galileo, whether 
> you like science or not.

Oh, you, the stupid man... the Galileo's science is now a pseudoscience
Maybe You are very old man.
If so, then go.. to the saint rest, instead of disturbing the rest.

> If you were not interested, you would not be here. People who don't 
> believe in astrology usually don't spend all their time in astrology 
> communities, either.

Oh, stupid. This is not a medicine forum...
and I'm not interested in the relativistic medicine achievements too.

> Ah. So if you believe in engineering and not science, then why are you 
> spending all your time in a science group rather than in engineering groups?

One ape proposed me... a banana - very funny experience. :)

> > It's my will what I to do - you have nothing to my private intentions.
> > So, go away, stupid bandit.
> 
> You're right, I don't know your private intentions, which is why I 
> *asked* you what your intentions are in wasting your time here. As for 
> going away, I'm a fan of science and so this newsgroup is built for 
> people like me. You're not a fan of science, and so there's no reason 
> for you to be here. So why aren't you the one to go away?

I like to waste of my time...
disputing with the apes like you are stupid. :)

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#389002

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-01 17:02 -0500
Message-ID<nnogtk$1sfj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#388992
On 8/1/2016 3:36 PM, astrofoton@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu poniedziałek, 1 sierpnia 2016 22:11:38 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin
>> I dont and cant like the improvised pseudoscience you proposed for me.
>>
>> Well, since the scientific method *defines* science, it doesn't really
>> matter that you label it pseudoscience. It's just science, and using the
>> scientific method is central to it, and has been since Galileo, whether
>> you like science or not.
>
> Oh, you, the stupid man... the Galileo's science is now a pseudoscience
> Maybe You are very old man.

Uh, no. Perhaps you don't know what pseudoscience means. Or science, for 
that matter.

> If so, then go.. to the saint rest, instead of disturbing the rest.
>
>> If you were not interested, you would not be here. People who don't
>> believe in astrology usually don't spend all their time in astrology
>> communities, either.
>
> Oh, stupid. This is not a medicine forum...
> and I'm not interested in the relativistic medicine achievements too.

You're not even interested in science.

>
>> Ah. So if you believe in engineering and not science, then why are you
>> spending all your time in a science group rather than in engineering groups?
>
> One ape proposed me... a banana - very funny experience. :)
>
>>> It's my will what I to do - you have nothing to my private intentions.
>>> So, go away, stupid bandit.
>>
>> You're right, I don't know your private intentions, which is why I
>> *asked* you what your intentions are in wasting your time here. As for
>> going away, I'm a fan of science and so this newsgroup is built for
>> people like me. You're not a fan of science, and so there's no reason
>> for you to be here. So why aren't you the one to go away?
>
> I like to waste of my time...

Obviously. I'm not so inclined. This short conversation has about 
exhausted my interest level, as my time is more valuable to me than 
yours is to you.

> disputing with the apes like you are stupid. :)

Yeah, I figured that out. You are only here to bitch, to argue, to thumb 
noses. You come from a position of ignorance regarding science, and you 
have a disdain for science in general. People who argue for the sake of 
arguing, who disagree just to be in disagreement, are worthless.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#388769

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2016-07-30 08:27 -0500
Message-ID<u4KdnSxjPovaNgHKnZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#388730
On 7/29/16 7/29/16   3:51 PM, astrofoton@interia.pl wrote:
> what the relativity predicts?
> 1. the spacetime whormholes which dont exist

These are not "predicted", they are just consistent with GR. Contrary to your 
guess, it is NOT KNOWN whether any actually exist.

> 2. an antimatter which... exist in the SF movies only

NONSENSE! Antimatter is solidly confirmed and observed every day at particle 
accelerators.

> 3. curved space... around the Mercury, which is
> equivalent to the stupid correction type of:
> g = g_newton (1 + 3v^2/c^2)

Nope, the curved spaceTIME of GR is not "equivalent" to that at all. And it is a 
better (i.e. more accurate) model of gravity than Newton.

> 4. a time dilation fantastic concept,
> which is equivalent to the prosaic light-speed variability: c - v.

"Time dilation" is not "equivalent" to that at all. Not even close. It, too, is 
observed every day at particle accelerators, and in the GPS. Your "light speed 
variability" is NOT observed.

> 5. etc.

You CLEARLY do not understand relativity and what it actually predicts. You 
REALLY need to learn something about the subject before attempting to write 
about it. It is YOU who has "nothing to say".


Tom Roberts

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#388887

Fromastrofoton@interia.pl
Date2016-07-31 12:25 -0700
Message-ID<6e9bf031-f8ba-40e6-b53b-bb8d90b8fdce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388769
W dniu sobota, 30 lipca 2016 15:27:42 UTC+2 użytkownik tjrob137 napisał:

> These are not "predicted", they are just consistent with GR. Contrary to your 
> guess, it is NOT KNOWN whether any actually exist.

Oh! Consistent with GR... but still never observed, noticed, haha!

So, then You have a big problem:
on what basis You presuppose such idiotic entities can exist at all?
 
> > 2. an antimatter which... exist in the SF movies only
> NONSENSE! Antimatter is solidly confirmed and observed every day at particle 
> accelerators.

Really?
So, where are the fantastic, composed of the fantastic antimatter.. matter,
stars and galaxies... in this stupid pseudoscience,
which you deduced from the accelerators observation?

 
> > 3. curved space... around the Mercury, which is
> > equivalent to the stupid correction type of:
> > g = g_newton (1 + 3v^2/c^2)
> 
> Nope, the curved spaceTIME of GR is not "equivalent" to that at all. And it is a better (i.e. more accurate) model of gravity than Newton.

See at this, boolioner:

F = ma, is a just tautology - a definition of a force!
it's not less than: 1 = 1 in the algebra.


And You still propose to correct this even more? Haha!

I say You, what you propose:
You propose some alternative math - a pseudomath!

> > 4. a time dilation fantastic concept,
> > which is equivalent to the prosaic light-speed variability: c - v.
 
> "Time dilation" is not "equivalent" to that at all. Not even close. It, too, is observed every day at particle accelerators, and in the GPS. Your "light speed variability" is NOT observed.

You stupid man maybe observed, but the accelerator as a whole:
the thousands tons of still, pipes, cables - a construction, installation, nothing more!

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#388994

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-01 13:47 -0700
Message-ID<9dfcc74e-3dc4-4786-bacc-40ebc8fa777b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388887
On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 12:25:19 PM UTC-7, astro...@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu sobota, 30 lipca 2016 15:27:42 UTC+2 użytkownik tjrob137 napisał:
> 
> > These are not "predicted", they are just consistent with GR. Contrary to your 
> > guess, it is NOT KNOWN whether any actually exist.
> 
> Oh! Consistent with GR... but still never observed, noticed, haha!
> 
> So, then You have a big problem:
> on what basis You presuppose such idiotic entities can exist at all?

Your is not even wrong (it presumes a falsehood, namely that scientific
models are physical reality itself).

> See at this, boolioner:

A what?

> F = ma, is a just tautology - a definition of a force!

No, it's not. It's a common mistake you've made.

> it's not less than: 1 = 1 in the algebra.

It's more than that.

BTW, you are wasting your time here.

--
Jan

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#388998

Fromastrofoton@interia.pl
Date2016-08-01 14:17 -0700
Message-ID<0a82fe3f-a9e0-45ba-b400-32586fbf79e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388994
W dniu poniedziałek, 1 sierpnia 2016 22:47:34 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 12:25:19 PM UTC-7, astro...@interia.pl wrote:
> > W dniu sobota, 30 lipca 2016 15:27:42 UTC+2 użytkownik tjrob137 napisał:
> > 
> > > These are not "predicted", they are just consistent with GR. Contrary to your 
> > > guess, it is NOT KNOWN whether any actually exist.
> > 
> > Oh! Consistent with GR... but still never observed, noticed, haha!
> > 
> > So, then You have a big problem:
> > on what basis You presuppose such idiotic entities can exist at all?
> 
> Your is not even wrong (it presumes a falsehood, namely that scientific
> models are physical reality itself).
> 
> > See at this, boolioner:
> 
> A what?
> 
> > F = ma, is a just tautology - a definition of a force!
> 
> No, it's not. It's a common mistake you've made.
> 
> > it's not less than: 1 = 1 in the algebra.
> 
> It's more than that.
> 
> BTW, you are wasting your time here.
> 
> --
> Jan

Oh! Another ape revealed in the final stage.
I know you stupids work in a horde... but inefficient.

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#389003

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-01 17:04 -0500
Message-ID<nnoh0l$1sfj$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#388994
On 8/1/2016 3:47 PM, JanPB wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 12:25:19 PM UTC-7, astro...@interia.pl wrote:

>
> It's more than that.
>
> BTW, you are wasting your time here.
>

He knows that. He's just said he knows it, and he LIKES wasting his own 
time. That's fine. He can do that all he wants, if his time is 
worthless. I'll not bother further on him.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#389021

Fromastrofoton@interia.pl
Date2016-08-01 18:01 -0700
Message-ID<b8565e57-38b3-457d-9c54-c3d649795887@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#389003
W dniu wtorek, 2 sierpnia 2016 00:04:09 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> On 8/1/2016 3:47 PM, JanPB wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 12:25:19 PM UTC-7, astro...@interia.pl wrote:
> 
> >
> > It's more than that.
> >
> > BTW, you are wasting your time here.
> >
> 
> He knows that. He's just said he knows it, and he LIKES wasting his own 
> time. That's fine. He can do that all he wants, if his time is 
> worthless. I'll not bother further on him.

The great.. time keeper sayd... hehehe!
Save this, you stupid banana: your time is independent of your... stupidity too.

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#389034

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-01 19:57 -0700
Message-ID<67240c12-79e6-48cb-ada9-7839696d3f57@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#389021
On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 6:01:15 PM UTC-7, astro...@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 2 sierpnia 2016 00:04:09 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> > On 8/1/2016 3:47 PM, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 12:25:19 PM UTC-7, astro...@interia.pl wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > It's more than that.
> > >
> > > BTW, you are wasting your time here.
> > >
> > 
> > He knows that. He's just said he knows it, and he LIKES wasting his own 
> > time. That's fine. He can do that all he wants, if his time is 
> > worthless. I'll not bother further on him.
> 
> The great.. time keeper sayd... hehehe!
> Save this, you stupid banana: your time is independent of your... stupidity too.

Yet another mentally ill person on this forum. A few questions come to mind:

* Anyone knows which newsgroups are mostly visited by those? Is it mostly science-related
or are, say, Baroque painting newsgroups equally infested?

* Virtually 100% cases of these nutjobs are male. Anyone knows why?

--
Jan

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#389223

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-05 07:04 -0500
Message-ID<no1vbj$1vaa$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#389034
On 8/1/2016 9:57 PM, JanPB wrote:
> Yet another mentally ill person on this forum. A few questions come to mind:
>
> * Anyone knows which newsgroups are mostly visited by those? Is it mostly science-related
> or are, say, Baroque painting newsgroups equally infested?

It depends, from what I can see.
If there are "heroes" in a particular area of interest, there are people 
there who take it as a holy mission to take down that figure in effigy.

>
> * Virtually 100% cases of these nutjobs are male. Anyone knows why?

Here, it's because virtually 100% of the nutjobs are retired engineers, 
which is an almost exclusively male society.

>
> --
> Jan


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#389322

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-06 12:37 -0700
Message-ID<cb150de4-869d-406d-944d-084b83f92f18@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#389223
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 5:04:06 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/1/2016 9:57 PM, JanPB wrote:
> > Yet another mentally ill person on this forum. A few questions come to mind:
> >
> > * Anyone knows which newsgroups are mostly visited by those? Is it mostly science-related
> > or are, say, Baroque painting newsgroups equally infested?
> 
> It depends, from what I can see.
> If there are "heroes" in a particular area of interest, there are people 
> there who take it as a holy mission to take down that figure in effigy.

But then why no attacks on Rembrandt? Perhaps it "helps" if the historical figure in question
is from a less distant past?

> > * Virtually 100% cases of these nutjobs are male. Anyone knows why?
> 
> Here, it's because virtually 100% of the nutjobs are retired engineers, 
> which is an almost exclusively male society.

Computer scientists are not far behind :-)

--
Jan

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#389253

Fromastrofoton@interia.pl
Date2016-08-05 08:37 -0700
Message-ID<e88c94d4-b61c-4a5e-a3d0-e3dc3050aa3a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#389034
W dniu wtorek, 2 sierpnia 2016 04:57:25 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:

> * Anyone knows which newsgroups are mostly visited by those? Is it mostly science-related
> or are, say, Baroque painting newsgroups equally infested?

I know - here is the most pseudoscience.
 
> * Virtually 100% cases of these nutjobs are male. Anyone knows why?

I know: females are still inferior in the mainstream,
because this it's a dogmatic based, thus traditional - like the church,
It's still at the stage of the primitivism,
based on the beliefs and superstations only.

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#389323

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-06 12:40 -0700
Message-ID<4a0011f2-8478-4fcf-8612-5b8a90a116e7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#389253
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 8:37:52 AM UTC-7, astro...@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 2 sierpnia 2016 04:57:25 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> 
> > * Anyone knows which newsgroups are mostly visited by those? Is it mostly science-related
> > or are, say, Baroque painting newsgroups equally infested?
> 
> I know - here is the most pseudoscience.

Reread my question.

> > * Virtually 100% cases of these nutjobs are male. Anyone knows why?
> 
> I know: females are still inferior in the mainstream,
> because this it's a dogmatic based, thus traditional - like the church,
> It's still at the stage of the primitivism,
> based on the beliefs and superstations only.

No, it's based on certain rules which, among other things, includes intellectual honesty.
You won't get anywhere in physics with what you do.

--
Jan

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#389336

Fromastrofoton@interia.pl
Date2016-08-06 14:47 -0700
Message-ID<20d68db6-0be3-4939-9bd7-4bca50bc30aa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#389323
W dniu sobota, 6 sierpnia 2016 21:40:10 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:

> No, it's based on certain rules which, among other things, includes intellectual honesty.

Indeed. The males was and still are more primitive... beings, stupid, naïve,
therefore they are more vulnerable to the indoctrination, dogmatism, religion, fanaticism and any other fallacious semi-, para-, and pseudoscientific ideology.

> You won't get anywhere in physics with what you do.

You didn't seen and never met any physics yet, as any stupid male malcontent.

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#389507

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-08 13:16 -0700
Message-ID<cea858d2-087c-42b7-9066-549e3096540d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#389336
On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 2:47:34 PM UTC-7, astro...@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu sobota, 6 sierpnia 2016 21:40:10 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> 
> > No, it's based on certain rules which, among other things, includes intellectual honesty.
> 
> Indeed. The males was and still are more primitive... beings, stupid, naïve,
> therefore they are more vulnerable to the indoctrination, dogmatism, religion, fanaticism and any other fallacious semi-, para-, and pseudoscientific ideology.
> 
> > You won't get anywhere in physics with what you do.
> 
> You didn't seen and never met any physics yet, as any stupid male malcontent.

You are talking about yourself in the third person again.

--
Jan

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#389509

Fromastrofoton@interia.pl
Date2016-08-08 13:25 -0700
Message-ID<e2431a2b-9c22-49e9-a476-987de295b02e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#389507
W dniu poniedziałek, 8 sierpnia 2016 22:16:28 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 2:47:34 PM UTC-7, astro...@interia.pl wrote:
> > W dniu sobota, 6 sierpnia 2016 21:40:10 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > 
> > > No, it's based on certain rules which, among other things, includes intellectual honesty.
> > 
> > Indeed. The males was and still are more primitive... beings, stupid, naïve,
> > therefore they are more vulnerable to the indoctrination, dogmatism, religion, fanaticism and any other fallacious semi-, para-, and pseudoscientific ideology.
> > 
> > > You won't get anywhere in physics with what you do.
> > 
> > You didn't seen and never met any physics yet, as any stupid male malcontent.
> 
> You are talking about yourself in the third person again.

Stupid.
Your idiotic pseudoscience has been destroyed long time ago.

You are like the dinosaur in the garden.. very big immaterial idiocy.

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