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  A day will come mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-18 23:29 -0700
    Re: A day will come mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-18 23:36 -0700
    Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-19 00:52 -0700
      Re: A day will come mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-19 02:50 -0700
        Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-19 03:47 -0700
      Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 14:36 -0700
        Re: A day will come mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-19 23:03 -0700
          Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 23:19 -0700
            Re: A day will come mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-20 00:55 -0700
              Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 11:24 -0700
                Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 11:28 -0700
                Re: A day will come mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-20 23:14 -0700
                  Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 23:46 -0700
                    Re: A day will come mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-20 23:50 -0700
                      Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 11:21 -0700
                        Re: A day will come Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-21 22:48 +0200
                          Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 16:14 -0700
                            Re: A day will come mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-21 23:16 -0700
                            Re: A day will come moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-22 14:17 +0000
                              Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 12:47 -0700
                                Re: A day will come Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-22 21:50 +0200
                                  Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 14:22 -0700
                                    Re: A day will come Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-22 23:54 +0200
                                      Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:29 -0700
                                        Re: A day will come Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-23 15:11 +0200
                                          Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-23 09:33 -0700
                                            Re: A day will come Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 11:36 -0500
                                          Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 11:52 -0700
                                          Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 19:15 -0700
        Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 02:50 -0700
          Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 02:54 -0700
            Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 03:54 -0700
              Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 05:42 -0700
                Re: A day will come mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-20 05:50 -0700
                Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 07:00 -0700
                  Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 07:16 -0700
                    Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 12:05 -0700
          Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 11:57 -0700
            Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 12:41 -0700
              Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 13:52 -0700
                Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 20:30 -0700
                  Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 20:48 -0700
                    Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 08:35 -0700
                      Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 00:38 -0700
                        Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-22 08:05 -0700
                          Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 14:24 -0700
                            Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 00:36 -0700
                              Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 09:46 -0700
                                Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 10:21 -0700
                                  Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 12:56 -0700
                                    Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 23:59 -0700
                                      Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 11:07 -0700
                                        Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-27 11:26 -0700
                                          Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 12:10 -0700
                                            Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-28 08:40 -0700
                                              Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:22 -0700
                                                Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-29 07:55 -0700
                                                  Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 08:34 -0700
                                                    Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-05 02:27 -0700
                                                      Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 09:49 -0700
                                          Re: A day will come Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:29 -0500
                                            Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-29 07:47 -0700
                                              Re: A day will come Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 10:50 -0500
                                                Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-05 02:26 -0700
                      Re: A day will come green <green@greenvery.org> - 2016-07-22 18:18 +0000
                        Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-22 11:53 -0700
                        Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 14:25 -0700
                          Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 00:39 -0700
    Re: A day will come nero <oldogf@yahoo.it> - 2016-07-24 02:11 -0700
      Re: A day will come Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-24 13:09 +0200
        Re: A day will come paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 07:20 -0700
          Re: A day will come Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-24 17:00 +0200
          Re: A day will come JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 13:38 -0700
      Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 07:56 -0700
        Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 11:08 -0700
          Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 11:55 -0700
            Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 15:38 -0700
              Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-25 10:29 -0700
                Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-25 15:42 -0700
                  Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 00:30 -0700
                    Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 04:50 -0700
                      Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 05:20 -0700
                        Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 07:27 -0700
                          Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 07:59 -0700
                            Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 11:12 -0700
                              Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-27 00:04 -0700
                                Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-27 06:24 -0700
                                  Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-27 10:05 -0700
                                    Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-27 12:18 -0700
                                      Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-28 08:46 -0700
                                        Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-28 09:48 -0700
                                          Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-29 07:51 -0700
                                            Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-29 08:35 -0700
                                              Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-05 02:31 -0700
                                                Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-05 06:31 -0700
                                                  Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-05 07:01 -0700
                                                    Re: A day will come Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-05 08:40 -0700
          Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 11:58 -0700
            Re: A day will come David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 12:01 -0700
            Re: A day will come Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 15:02 -0500
    Write down your name now "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 21:40 +0800

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#388195

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:f89fcfa6-129c-494b-ab25-99855b109e29@googlegroups.com...

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 7:18:24 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> JanPB writes:
> > > |I noticed long time ago that metaphors, sarcasm, and all that stuff 
> > > that
> > > |normal people understand "between the lines" is lost on you. My 
> > > diagnosis
> > >
> > > I noticed long time ago, that you imagine, imagine, imagine and
> > > imagine. My diagnosis is: stupidity.
> >
> > Mine is autism.
>
> I wouldn't rule out a touch of schizophrenia as there are delusions
> involved. But I think you are pretty much correct.
>
> IANA shrink, however.

|IIRC he posted a few times in the late '90s(?) - a completely different
|person then.

I didn't know your bunch as well as I do now.

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#388201

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 12:50:36 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:f89fcfa6-129c-494b-ab25-99855b109e29@googlegroups.com...
> 
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 7:18:24 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > JanPB writes:
> > > > |I noticed long time ago that metaphors, sarcasm, and all that stuff 
> > > > that
> > > > |normal people understand "between the lines" is lost on you. My 
> > > > diagnosis
> > > >
> > > > I noticed long time ago, that you imagine, imagine, imagine and
> > > > imagine. My diagnosis is: stupidity.
> > >
> > > Mine is autism.
> >
> > I wouldn't rule out a touch of schizophrenia as there are delusions
> > involved. But I think you are pretty much correct.
> >
> > IANA shrink, however.
> 
> |IIRC he posted a few times in the late '90s(?) - a completely different
> |person then.
> 
> I didn't know your bunch as well as I do now.

Nonsense. You clearly state now that all physicists for the last 100
years were, and are, morons. There is nothing to add except: only an
idiot can say that with a straight face.

--
Jan

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#388202

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:96089206-c956-4556-aedb-c157c6ed05c7@googlegroups.com...

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 12:50:36 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:f89fcfa6-129c-494b-ab25-99855b109e29@googlegroups.com...
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 7:18:24 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > JanPB writes:
> > > > |I noticed long time ago that metaphors, sarcasm, and all that stuff
> > > > that
> > > > |normal people understand "between the lines" is lost on you. My
> > > > diagnosis
> > > >
> > > > I noticed long time ago, that you imagine, imagine, imagine and
> > > > imagine. My diagnosis is: stupidity.
> > >
> > > Mine is autism.
> >
> > I wouldn't rule out a touch of schizophrenia as there are delusions
> > involved. But I think you are pretty much correct.
> >
> > IANA shrink, however.
>
> |IIRC he posted a few times in the late '90s(?) - a completely different
> |person then.
>
> I didn't know your bunch as well as I do now.

|Nonsense. You clearly state now that all physicists for the last 100
|years were, and are, morons.

Yeah. 20 years ago I was young and unexperienced, so
it seemed you deserve some respect.

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#388208

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 2:55:10 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:96089206-c956-4556-aedb-c157c6ed05c7@googlegroups.com...
> 
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 12:50:36 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> > dyskusyjnych:f89fcfa6-129c-494b-ab25-99855b109e29@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 7:18:24 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > JanPB writes:
> > > > > |I noticed long time ago that metaphors, sarcasm, and all that stuff
> > > > > that
> > > > > |normal people understand "between the lines" is lost on you. My
> > > > > diagnosis
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed long time ago, that you imagine, imagine, imagine and
> > > > > imagine. My diagnosis is: stupidity.
> > > >
> > > > Mine is autism.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't rule out a touch of schizophrenia as there are delusions
> > > involved. But I think you are pretty much correct.
> > >
> > > IANA shrink, however.
> >
> > |IIRC he posted a few times in the late '90s(?) - a completely different
> > |person then.
> >
> > I didn't know your bunch as well as I do now.
> 
> |Nonsense. You clearly state now that all physicists for the last 100
> |years were, and are, morons.
> 
> Yeah. 20 years ago I was young and unexperienced, so
> it seemed you deserve some respect.

You are a complete idiot.

--
Jan

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#388223

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:270d5c95-38a7-4d6d-9233-a926ade00c6b@googlegroups.com...


> Yeah. 20 years ago I was young and unexperienced, so
> it seemed you deserve some respect.

|You are a complete idiot.

That's your whole "knowledge".
Your Shit is the biggest "emperor clothes" hoax in the history. 

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#388232

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:12:18 AM UTC-6, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:270d5c95-38a7-4d6d-9233-a926ade00c6b@googlegroups.com...
> > 
> > You are a complete idiot.
> 
> That's your whole "knowledge".
> Your Shit is the biggest "emperor clothes" hoax in the history.

Spoken like a true ignoramus.

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#388233

On 7/23/2016 11:33 AM, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> Your Shit is the biggest "emperor clothes" hoax in the history.

What other such hoaxes to you imagine? Or is there only one?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#388236

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 6:12:18 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:270d5c95-38a7-4d6d-9233-a926ade00c6b@googlegroups.com...
> 
> 
> > Yeah. 20 years ago I was young and unexperienced, so
> > it seemed you deserve some respect.
> 
> |You are a complete idiot.
> 
> That's your whole "knowledge".

No, it's a conclusion based on observation. The proof is in this newsgroup's record.

> Your Shit is the biggest "emperor clothes" hoax in the history.

Again, you are simply an idiot. Also an arrogant ignoramus but that's frequently correlated.


--
Jan

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#388553

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 6:12:18 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:270d5c95-38a7-4d6d-9233-a926ade00c6b@googlegroups.com...
> 
> 
> > Yeah. 20 years ago I was young and unexperienced, so
> > it seemed you deserve some respect.
> 
> |You are a complete idiot.
> 
> That's your whole "knowledge".
> Your Shit is the biggest "emperor clothes" hoax in the history.

See a doctor. I mean it.

--
Jan

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#388072

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 2:36:43 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 12:52:30 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:29:34 PM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > W dniu poniedziałek, 18 lipca 2016 18:19:33 UTC+2 użytkownik PD napisał:
> > > 
> > > > The principles in gedankens lead to experimental observations to test them. 
> > > 
> > > A day will come, when we accelerate our rivets 
> > > to 0.9c.
> > > This day the wretched bugs will be crushed.
> > > For the glory of Great Guru!!!!!!!!!
> > 
> > Lay off the crack moron. You're even worse a crank than that trans Jan is.
> 
> ...
> Jan

You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.

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#388073

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 2:36:43 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 12:52:30 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:29:34 PM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > W dniu poniedziałek, 18 lipca 2016 18:19:33 UTC+2 użytkownik PD napisał:
> > > > 
> > > > > The principles in gedankens lead to experimental observations to test them. 
> > > > 
> > > > A day will come, when we accelerate our rivets 
> > > > to 0.9c.
> > > > This day the wretched bugs will be crushed.
> > > > For the glory of Great Guru!!!!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > Lay off the crack moron. You're even worse a crank than that trans Jan is.
> > 
> > ...
> > Jan
> 
> You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.

I know, over both you're crackpot heads,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0

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#388075

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:16 AM UTC-6, David Waite wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> >
> > You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.
> 
> I know, over both you're crackpot heads,
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0

Do you really believe your posts here are making you look good?
THINK about it!

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#388076

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:57 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:16 AM UTC-6, David Waite wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > >
> > > You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.
> > 
> > I know, over both you're crackpot heads,
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0
> 
> Do you really believe your posts here are making you look good?
> THINK about it!

What makes you think I care? Oh wait you think promoting your immoral religionist crap made you look good so you must be talking to yourself. Anyway, more to this topic that Jan spammed over to this thread for me,
At
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0
I claim that 
for
α, β, κ constants
β≠–1
κ≠0,2
ds²=[exp(2αz/c²)][dct²-(dz+ βdct)²]-{exp[(1±√(1+2κ-κ²))(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dx²-{exp[κ(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dy²
is an exact vacuum solution with spacetime curvature. Now either I know general relativity so well above and beyond those of you that think yourself expert that I can do what you can't and actually work out such exact solutions, or I am wrong and anyone who barely even understands the subject in comparison can prove it by back checking this line element by getting the Einstein tensor or even just the Ricci-tensor sense its vacuum and show that they have nonzero elements. Oh wait, even such a simple back check would be over your heads. You don't understand this field, not being able to do even that, and as such have no place asserting your speculations as fact about it.

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#388077

W dniu środa, 20 lipca 2016 14:42:30 UTC+2 użytkownik David Waite napisał:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:57 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:16 AM UTC-6, David Waite wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.
> > > 
> > > I know, over both you're crackpot heads,
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0
> > 
> > Do you really believe your posts here are making you look good?
> > THINK about it!
> 
> What makes you think I care? Oh wait you think promoting your immoral religionist crap made you look good so you must be talking to yourself. Anyway, more to this topic that Jan spammed over to this thread for me,
> At
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0
> I claim that 
> for
> α, β, κ constants
> β≠–1
> κ≠0,2
> ds²=[exp(2αz/c²)][dct²-(dz+ βdct)²]-{exp[(1±√(1+2κ-κ²))(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dx²-{exp[κ(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dy²
> is an exact vacuum solution with spacetime curvature. Now either I know general relativity so well above and beyond those of you that think yourself expert that I can do what you can't and actually work out such exact solutions, or I am wrong and anyone who barely even understands the subject in comparison can prove it by back checking this line element by getting the Einstein tensor or even just the Ricci-tensor sense its vacuum and show that they have nonzero elements. Oh wait, even such a simple back check would be over your heads. You don't understand this field, not being able to do even that, and as such have no place asserting your speculations as fact about it.

You probably imagine, that your moronic mumble
places you onthe Highest level of Enlightenment.
Imagination.
You could as well learn and mumble about angels 
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#388085

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 6:42:30 AM UTC-6, David Waite wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:57 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:16 AM UTC-6, David Waite wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.
> > > 
> > > I know, over both you're crackpot heads,
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0
> > 
> > Do you really believe your posts here are making you look good?
> > THINK about it!
> 
> What makes you think I care?

It's obvious that you are a sociopath, so I know you don't care.  Everyone
knows you tear others down because you delusionally believe it makes you
look good.  It doesn't.  It makes you look like an a$$hole.

> [More delusional baloney deleted for sanitary reasons]

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#388086

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 7:00:24 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 6:42:30 AM UTC-6, David Waite wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:57 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:16 AM UTC-6, David Waite wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.
> > > > 
> > > > I know, over both you're crackpot heads,
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0
> > > 
> > > Do you really believe your posts here are making you look good?
> > > THINK about it!
> > 
> > What makes you think I care?
> 
> It's obvious that you are a sociopath, so I know you don't care.  Everyone
> knows you tear others down because you delusionally believe it makes you
> look good.  It doesn't.  It makes you look like an a$$hole.
> 
> > [More delusional baloney deleted for sanitary reasons]

There you go talking to yourself again so anyway back to the warpdrive topic that Jan spammed over to this thread for me, 
At 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0 
I claim that 
for 
α, β, κ constants 
β≠–1 
κ≠0,2 
ds²=[exp(2αz/c²)][dct²-(dz+ βdct)²]-{exp[(1±√(1+2κ-κ²))(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dx²-{exp[κ(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dy² 
is an exact vacuum solution with spacetime curvature. Now either I know general relativity so well above and beyond those of you that think yourself expert that I can do what you can't and actually work out such exact solutions, or I am wrong and anyone who barely even understands the subject in comparison can prove it by back checking this line element by getting the Einstein tensor or even just the Ricci-tensor sense its vacuum and show that they have nonzero elements. Oh wait, even such a simple back check would be over your heads. You don't understand this field, not being able to do even that, and as such have no place asserting your speculations as fact about it.

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#388094

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 7:16:27 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 7:00:24 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 6:42:30 AM UTC-6, David Waite wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:57 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:54:16 AM UTC-6, David Waite wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I know, over both you're crackpot heads,
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0
> > > > 
> > > > Do you really believe your posts here are making you look good?
> > > > THINK about it!
> > > 
> > > What makes you think I care?
> > 
> > It's obvious that you are a sociopath, so I know you don't care.  Everyone
> > knows you tear others down because you delusionally believe it makes you
> > look good.  It doesn't.  It makes you look like an a$$hole.
> > 
> > > [More delusional baloney deleted for sanitary reasons]
> 
> There you go talking to yourself again so anyway back to the warpdrive topic that Jan spammed over to this thread for me, 
> At 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0 
> I claim that 
> for 
> α, β, κ constants 
> β≠–1 
> κ≠0,2 
> ds²=[exp(2αz/c²)][dct²-(dz+ βdct)²]-{exp[(1±√(1+2κ-κ²))(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dx²-{exp[κ(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dy² 
> is an exact vacuum solution with spacetime curvature. Now either I know general relativity so well above and beyond those of you that think yourself expert that I can do what you can't and actually work out such exact solutions, or I am wrong and anyone who barely even understands the subject in comparison can prove it by back checking this line element by getting the Einstein tensor or even just the Ricci-tensor sense its vacuum and show that they have nonzero elements. Oh wait, even such a simple back check would be over your heads. You don't understand this field, not being able to do even that, and as such have no place asserting your speculations as fact about it.

This part I have no quarrel with. The part under discussion was that
Low's paper implied in spacetimes with Cauchy surfaces exotic matter
was necessary for any warp-drive-type metric. Feel free to return this
to the original thread.

I really have no agenda in this discussion, I'm simply curious.

--
Jan

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#388093

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 2:36:43 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 12:52:30 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:29:34 PM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > W dniu poniedziałek, 18 lipca 2016 18:19:33 UTC+2 użytkownik PD napisał:
> > > > 
> > > > > The principles in gedankens lead to experimental observations to test them. 
> > > > 
> > > > A day will come, when we accelerate our rivets 
> > > > to 0.9c.
> > > > This day the wretched bugs will be crushed.
> > > > For the glory of Great Guru!!!!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > Lay off the crack moron. You're even worse a crank than that trans Jan is.
> > 
> > ...
> > Jan
> 
> You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.

I suspect you keep repeating this convenient accusation(*) because it
allows you to avoid addressing the issue raised by Robert Low's note
on arxiv (thanks to Tom for pointing me to it):
http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9812067

I had simply said that the Gullstrand–Painlevé setup was not good enough
as a certain counterexample. As if your calling this remark a "lie"(?)
wasn't good enough, you started making stuff up, like saying I had never
seen Gullstrand–Painlevé coordinates before (search the archives for this
newsgroup and you'll see you were wrong).

We are still waiting for your response to that paper, BTW.

--
Jan

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#388095

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 11:57:24 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 2:36:43 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 12:52:30 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:29:34 PM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > > W dniu poniedziałek, 18 lipca 2016 18:19:33 UTC+2 użytkownik PD napisał:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > The principles in gedankens lead to experimental observations to test them. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > A day will come, when we accelerate our rivets 
> > > > > to 0.9c.
> > > > > This day the wretched bugs will be crushed.
> > > > > For the glory of Great Guru!!!!!!!!!
> > > > 
> > > > Lay off the crack moron. You're even worse a crank than that trans Jan is.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > Jan
> > 
> > You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.
> 
> I suspect you keep repeating this convenient accusation(*) because it
> allows you to avoid addressing the issue raised by Robert Low's note...

I already addressed it you lying fvcking scumbag. You keep lying about it so YOU'RE DONE. I'm not helping you with this topic anymore which you quite clearly demonstrated is over your head anyway. At https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyujM_HSj0 
I claim that 
for 
α, β, κ constants 
β≠–1 
κ≠0,2 
ds²=[exp(2αz/c²)][dct²-(dz+ βdct)²]-{exp[(1±√(1+2κ-κ²))(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dx²-{exp[κ(1+β)α(z+(β-1)ct)/c²]}dy², is an exact vacuum solution with spacetime curvature. Now either I knew general relativity so well above and beyond those of you that think yourself expert that I can do what you can't and actually work out such exact solutions. Or I am wrong and anyone who barely even understands the subject in comparison can prove it by back checking this line element by getting the Einstein tensor or even just the Ricci-tensor sense its vacuum and show that they have nonzero elements. Oh wait- even such a simple back check would be over your heads. You don't understand this field, not being able to do even that, and as such have no place asserting your speculations as fact about it. 

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#388098

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 12:41:29 PM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 11:57:24 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:50:54 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 2:36:43 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 12:52:30 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:29:34 PM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > > > > > W dniu poniedziałek, 18 lipca 2016 18:19:33 UTC+2 użytkownik PD napisał:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The principles in gedankens lead to experimental observations to test them. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > A day will come, when we accelerate our rivets 
> > > > > > to 0.9c.
> > > > > > This day the wretched bugs will be crushed.
> > > > > > For the glory of Great Guru!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Lay off the crack moron. You're even worse a crank than that trans Jan is.
> > > > 
> > > > ...
> > > > Jan
> > > 
> > > You're a liar. I got that already. You're done.
> > 
> > I suspect you keep repeating this convenient accusation(*) because it
> > allows you to avoid addressing the issue raised by Robert Low's note...
> 
> I already addressed it you lying fvcking scumbag.

Where? Just post the link. All you said was that his analysis didn't
apply to your setup. But this is just talk. He OTOH quotes _specific_
conditions under which his analysis is valid. Basically they are the
standard Cauchy initial data as in Hawking & Ellis or Wald or
Fisher & Marsden, etc.

I also fail to see any sane reason for referring to the author of the
arviv paper as "fvcking scumbag". Is this how you treat all peer review?

> You keep lying about it so YOU'RE DONE.

Nonsense. Save yourself cut and paste. I simply said your claim that GP's
low speed constituted a certain counterexample was likely incorrect. Low's
paper then proved it was indeed incorrect.

So much for my "lying".

--
Jan

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