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Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics

Started bykenseto <setoken@att.net>
First post2016-07-12 07:20 -0700
Last post2016-07-29 11:08 -0500
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  Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-12 07:20 -0700
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-12 10:02 -0500
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-12 19:06 +0200
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 10:28 -0700
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-12 21:20 +0200
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 12:43 -0700
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-12 23:22 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 05:47 -0700
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-13 07:09 -0700
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 10:02 -0700
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-13 20:26 +0200
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 11:38 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-13 22:32 +0200
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 15:01 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 17:05 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-13 22:58 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-13 22:49 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 04:47 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-14 05:07 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 06:17 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-14 16:30 +0200
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:50 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-14 18:54 +0200
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-14 19:03 +0200
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:29 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-14 20:49 +0200
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 16:32 -0700
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 12:05 -0700
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 13:11 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-15 10:57 -0500
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-15 19:10 +0200
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 15:00 -0700
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-12 15:04 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:59 -0700
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-14 05:24 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-07-13 11:25 -0700
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-07-13 11:27 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-15 13:08 -0500
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:06 -0500
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-13 08:13 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 10:20 -0500
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-14 04:45 -0700
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 07:08 -0700
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-15 06:39 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 10:07 -0500
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-15 13:13 -0700
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 15:43 -0500
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-15 14:17 -0700
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-17 08:45 +1000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 11:06 -0700
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 09:30 -0500
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-14 13:38 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 15:45 -0500
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-14 23:40 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 17:16 -0700
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-14 23:36 -0700
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-15 07:07 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 10:13 -0500
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-15 13:27 -0700
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 15:45 -0500
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-15 14:21 -0700
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 19:35 -0700
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 13:02 -0500
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-17 23:30 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:13 -0700
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics larry harson <larryharson66@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 10:19 -0700
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics HGW <hw@....> - 2016-07-14 08:42 +1000
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-14 06:53 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 07:19 -0700
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-14 13:54 -0700
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 17:20 -0700
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-15 14:05 +1000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 06:06 -0700
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-15 06:34 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 14:23 +0000
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-15 06:42 -0700
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-15 14:56 +0000
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-15 11:58 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-16 00:02 +0000
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-16 10:22 +0200
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-16 06:42 -0700
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 07:24 -0700
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics HGW <hw@....> - 2016-07-14 08:30 +1000
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 15:49 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-15 09:12 +1000
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 07:30 -0500
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-16 08:31 +1000
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-16 00:06 +0000
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-16 06:34 -0700
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-17 02:40 +0000
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-17 14:48 +1000
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-18 03:13 +0000
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-21 08:31 +1000
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-21 14:50 +0000
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-23 08:27 +1000
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-23 02:15 +0000
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-17 07:52 -0700
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-18 03:21 +0000
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-18 04:31 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-18 05:21 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-18 05:47 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-18 06:28 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 08:36 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-18 07:01 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 09:03 -0500
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-19 05:52 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 13:11 -0500
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-18 09:11 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-18 15:07 +0000
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-19 06:21 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-19 14:12 +0000
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-18 06:41 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 08:46 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-18 07:04 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 10:00 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-19 06:10 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-19 13:50 +0000
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 13:12 -0500
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-18 23:52 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-19 06:56 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-21 15:33 +0000
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-22 05:31 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-22 14:05 +0000
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-22 07:27 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-24 00:04 +0000
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-24 05:53 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 14:58 -0500
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-24 20:54 +0000
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-24 19:43 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-25 05:32 +0000
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-25 10:36 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-25 18:50 +0000
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-26 08:19 -0700
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-26 15:49 +0000
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-22 19:46 +0200
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-20 09:11 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 09:59 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-19 06:05 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-19 14:31 +0000
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 11:40 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 13:51 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-20 06:07 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-18 15:20 +0000
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-18 09:58 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 12:17 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-19 06:29 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-19 14:47 +0000
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 12:46 -0500
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-17 08:16 +1000
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-17 02:54 +0000
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-17 14:45 +1000
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-17 03:19 -0700
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-17 04:05 -0700
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-18 03:14 +0000
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-17 15:31 -0500
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-18 08:30 +1000
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-17 17:07 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-19 20:50 +0200
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-21 08:41 +1000
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-21 11:24 +0200
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-21 02:29 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-21 19:36 +1000
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 06:35 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-21 18:10 +0200
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 13:21 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 16:33 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 16:51 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 08:41 -0500
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-23 08:37 +1000
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-23 09:54 +0200
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-24 15:58 +1000
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 04:40 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-25 09:16 +1000
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-25 02:16 +0000
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-26 08:05 +1000
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-26 03:01 +0000
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-27 09:10 +1000
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 03:02 +0000
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-28 08:44 +1000
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-28 01:55 +0000
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-28 19:58 +0200
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-25 05:44 -0700
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-25 19:14 +0200
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-25 15:47 -0700
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-26 12:00 +1000
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-25 20:09 -0700
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-27 09:12 +1000
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-25 18:59 +0200
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-26 08:09 +1000
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 17:19 -0500
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 17:22 -0500
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-26 11:27 +1000
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-26 03:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-26 10:38 +0200
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-27 09:15 +1000
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-27 11:13 +0200
                                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-28 08:55 +1000
                                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-28 02:06 +0000
                                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 20:03 -0700
                                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 09:04 -0500
                                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 08:51 -0500
                                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-28 19:39 +0200
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:33 -0500
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-26 03:05 +0000
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-24 20:16 +0200
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-25 09:39 +1000
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 14:51 -0500
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-25 11:34 +1000
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 08:42 -0500
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-26 08:11 +1000
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 17:23 -0500
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-26 11:31 +1000
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:35 -0500
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-27 09:17 +1000
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:56 -0500
                                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-28 08:56 +1000
                                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 08:52 -0500
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-21 15:25 -0500
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-21 23:31 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 00:19 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-22 06:08 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 08:13 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-22 06:43 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 09:37 -0500
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-22 13:59 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:22 -0500
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-23 05:43 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:44 -0500
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-23 12:04 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 14:48 -0500
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-24 00:10 +0000
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-23 08:50 +1000
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-22 22:58 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-24 16:06 +1000
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-24 20:46 +0200
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:36 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-24 16:09 +1000
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 04:45 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 14:53 -0500
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 13:08 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-23 08:54 +1000
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:42 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-23 10:36 +1000
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-24 01:54 +0000
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-24 16:12 +1000
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-24 04:53 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 08:25 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-25 08:49 +1000
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 19:10 -0700
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-26 08:01 +1000
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-24 20:45 +0000
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-25 09:04 +1000
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-25 02:03 +0000
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-11 06:26 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-23 06:31 +0200
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-18 03:07 +0000
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-07-21 08:45 +1000
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-21 14:54 +0000
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-17 19:57 -0700
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-19 22:53 +0200
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 15:07 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-20 10:44 +0200
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:50 -0700
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-20 23:02 +0200
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-25 10:51 +0200
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 17:24 -0500
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-19 23:08 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-20 09:41 +0200
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:53 -0500
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-20 06:14 -0700
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-21 05:05 +0200
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-22 06:09 +0200
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-20 06:18 -0700
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 08:43 -0500
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-25 08:41 +0200
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 09:11 -0500
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-25 22:31 +0200
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:47 -0500
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-26 08:52 +0200
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:18 -0500
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-28 07:01 +0200
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:49 -0500
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-02 09:13 +0200
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-25 08:45 +0200
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-21 05:18 +0200
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-31 09:22 +0200
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-25 12:28 -0700
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 10:10 -0500
    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-28 08:11 -0700
      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-29 05:46 -0700
        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 08:19 -0500
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-29 06:28 -0700
          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-29 06:49 -0700
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-29 15:02 +0000
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 10:52 -0500
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-29 08:59 -0700
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 11:18 -0500
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-29 09:39 -0700
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 09:23 -0700
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-29 09:38 -0700
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-29 18:59 -0500
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-29 17:30 -0700
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-29 17:33 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-30 21:53 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-30 20:13 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-31 08:11 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 06:23 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 06:38 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 06:50 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 07:32 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 07:44 -0700
                                          Asshole Stephane Baune perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 07:56 -0700
                                            Re: Asshole Stephane Baune perseveres rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 08:22 -0700
                                              Re: Asshole Stephane Baune perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 08:41 -0700
                                          crackpot Stephane Baune perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 10:45 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 07:29 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:45 -0700
                                              Stephane Baune denies himself "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 08:57 -0700
                                          Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") continues to troll a thread that he doesn't understand "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 11:39 -0700
                                          Stepane Baune, the village cretin "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 14:26 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 07:38 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 07:54 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 07:58 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 08:30 -0700
                                        Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") continues to insert foot in the mouth. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 08:43 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 08:42 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 09:46 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 10:41 -0700
                                            Asshole Stephane Baune hard at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 10:46 -0700
                                              Re: Asshole Stephane Baune hard at work rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 11:01 -0700
                                                Re: Asshole Stephane Baune hard at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 11:05 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 15:46 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 17:54 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-06 21:31 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 21:44 -0700
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-07 08:56 -0500
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-07 07:09 -0700
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-07 12:25 -0500
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-07 16:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 20:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 20:07 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-07 12:17 -0500
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-09 12:34 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-09 20:40 -0500
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-31 21:59 -0500
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 20:11 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 11:13 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 09:21 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 19:10 -0500
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-06 22:54 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-07 09:24 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-07 07:41 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-07 20:40 -0500
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-08 15:47 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-08 23:23 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-09 12:28 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 14:46 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-09 20:43 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 08:17 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:22 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 08:55 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 11:22 -0500
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 13:08 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 15:14 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 13:21 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 13:30 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 13:38 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 13:51 -0700
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 14:10 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 14:39 -0700
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 14:55 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 15:47 -0700
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 15:59 -0700
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 16:22 -0700
                                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 17:09 -0700
                                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 17:37 -0700
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 19:57 -0500
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 19:41 -0500
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 18:07 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 16:58 -0500
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 15:38 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 20:22 -0500
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 18:26 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:04 -0500
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 06:17 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 08:25 -0500
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 06:28 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:32 -0500
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:05 -0700
                                                          Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") digs himself deeper "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 11:14 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 19:33 -0500
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 18:02 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 19:23 -0700
                                              Poser Stephane Baune postures "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 19:38 -0700
                                                Re: Idiot dono backpedals rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 19:54 -0700
                                                Re: Poser Stephane Baune postures Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 20:39 -0700
                                                  Re: Poser Stephane Baune postures "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-02 06:36 -0700
                                                  Re: Poser Stephane Baune postures Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-02 12:24 -0500
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 13:24 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 19:25 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 17:58 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-31 21:50 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-31 22:02 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-30 20:14 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 00:57 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 05:54 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 20:42 -0700
                              Pretender Stephane Baune embarrasses himself by demonstrating that he does not know basic relativity (he never learned it, to begin with) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-30 20:59 -0700
                                Re: Pretender Stephane Baune embarrasses himself by demonstrating that he does not know basic relativity (he never learned it, to begin with) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 21:09 -0700
                                  Re: Pretender Stephane Baune embarrasses himself by demonstrating that he does not know basic relativity (he never learned it, to begin with) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 05:47 -0700
                                    Re: Idiot dono shows that he is just as confused as idiot ken rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 07:20 -0700
                                      Re: Idiot Stephane Baune lies and  shows that he is just as confused as idiot ken "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 07:27 -0700
                                        Re: Idiot Stephane Baune lies and  shows that he is just as confused as idiot ken rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 07:35 -0700
                                  Re: Pretender Stephane Baune embarrasses himself by demonstrating that he does not know basic relativity (he never learned it, to begin with) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-31 08:13 -0500
                                    Re: Pretender Stephane Baune embarrasses himself by demonstrating that he does not know basic relativity (he never learned it, to begin with) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 06:27 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 13:31 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 00:46 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 05:50 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 07:23 -0700
                                  Stephane Baune digs himself deeper in his lies "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 07:29 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-31 20:41 -0500
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 18:46 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 07:13 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 06:36 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 11:44 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 20:21 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 21:34 -0700
                                Cretin Stephane baune chimes in with a fresh imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 21:45 -0700
                                  Re:Idiot dono does not knoe the meaning of "simultaneous". rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 07:04 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 21:35 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 12:01 -0500
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 21:48 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-31 22:16 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 04:16 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 06:20 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:57 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 07:04 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 07:21 -0700
                                            Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 07:26 -0700
                                              Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:46 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:20 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 08:54 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 09:23 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 12:07 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 20:30 -0500
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 04:18 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 06:21 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 12:03 -0500
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 13:10 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-03 20:31 +0200
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 11:39 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 17:09 -0500
                                        Re: Idiot dono gets owned rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:11 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 15:49 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 15:55 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 16:14 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:18 -0700
                                        Re: Idiot dono gets owned #3 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:19 -0700
                                        Re: Idiot dono gets owned #4 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:21 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:34 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 06:42 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 06:48 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 07:00 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 07:12 -0700
                                  Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 07:24 -0700
                                    Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:51 -0700
                                      Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 08:59 -0700
                                        Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 09:15 -0700
                                        Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 20:38 -0500
                                          Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 18:42 -0700
                                            Re:Idiot dono gets owned again by me, Tom et al. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 19:45 -0700
                                              Re: Idiot dono gets owned again by me, Tom et al. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 21:23 -0700
                                                Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot jumps at the opportunity to suck Stephane Baune's dick "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-02 06:34 -0700
                                                  Re:Idiot dono admits defeat in his own words rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 08:17 -0700
                                                    Idiot Stephane Baune continues to embarrass himself "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-02 08:23 -0700
                                              Cretin Stephane Baune puffs himself up, just like a hot air balloon "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-02 06:29 -0700
                                            Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-02 13:00 -0500
                                              Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-02 11:30 -0700
                                                Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-02 20:57 -0500
                                                  Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-02 19:25 -0700
                                                    Re: Idiot dono messes up a simple math prob, AGAIN! rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 20:40 -0700
                                                      Re: Idiot Stephane Baune reaches new lows "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-02 23:03 -0700
                                              Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 20:01 -0700
                                                Re: Cretin Stephane Baune pops in for a quick kick in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-02 20:15 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 11:58 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-31 21:47 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 12:37 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-31 22:14 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 10:50 -0500
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 08:58 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 16:02 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 16:13 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 17:12 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 17:51 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-01 18:04 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 23:54 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-02 23:05 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 00:27 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 06:10 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 06:39 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 06:49 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 07:34 -0700
                                            Cretin Stephane Baune perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 07:38 -0700
                                            Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 07:42 -0700
                                              Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 08:12 -0700
                                                Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 08:19 -0700
                                                  Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 08:38 -0700
                                                    Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 09:18 -0700
                                                      Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 10:36 -0700
                                                        Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 10:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 09:20 -0700
                                                      Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 10:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 10:48 -0700
                                                          Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 11:08 -0700
                                                            Re: Imbecile Stephane Baune puffs himself up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 11:15 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-03 20:45 -0500
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 19:24 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 19:57 -0700
                                                Cretin Stephane baune pops up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 20:28 -0700
                                                  Re: Idiot dono admits he was wrong?? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 20:47 -0700
                                                    Gassbag Stephane Baune at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 20:52 -0700
                                                      Re: Gassbag Stephane Baune at work rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 21:23 -0700
                                                        Re: Gassbag Stephane Baune at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 05:50 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-04 07:36 -0500
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 19:42 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 21:31 -0700
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 05:52 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-04 07:43 -0500
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 06:00 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 06:18 -0700
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 07:04 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-04 09:40 -0500
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 07:48 -0700
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-04 17:16 +0200
                                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 08:22 -0700
                                                          Re:idiot dono gets owned be me # 31 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 08:44 -0700
                                                            Imbecile Stephane Baune does what he does best: eats shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 08:46 -0700
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 08:28 -0700
                                                          Re: idiot dono gets owned by me # 33 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 08:53 -0700
                                                            Cretin Stephane Baune tries to contribute and falls flat on his face "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 08:57 -0700
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-04 20:04 -0500
                                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 20:40 -0700
                                                        Re:Idiot dono gets owned by Tom #18 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 08:34 -0700
                                                          Idiot Stephane Baune keeps eating shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 08:43 -0700
                                                    Re: idiot donmo gets owned by PCH # 23 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 08:37 -0700
                                                      Imbecile Stephane baune continues to eat shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 08:44 -0700
                                                  Re: idiot dono gets owned #14 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 06:44 -0700
                                                    Cretin Stephane Baune dabbles into subjects he knows nothing about "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 06:59 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-04 09:31 -0500
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 07:39 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 06:44 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 15:35 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 15:53 -0700
                                          Re:  Idiot dono gets owned #2 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:16 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 06:48 -0700
                                        Cretin Stephane Baune chimes in on subjects he doesn't understand "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 06:55 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-03 10:01 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 10:05 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 08:10 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 08:16 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 08:37 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 08:49 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 09:08 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 10:16 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 10:49 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 09:15 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-03 10:14 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 10:29 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-03 13:26 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-03 20:34 -0500
                                  Re: Idiot dono gets owned #5 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:45 -0700
                                    Idiot Stephane Baune has no clue about what is being debated "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 19:16 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 19:15 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 19:45 -0700
                                      Pretender Stephane Baune contnues to insert foot in mouth "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-03 20:27 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-04 07:25 -0500
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 05:53 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-04 06:16 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 08:20 -0500
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-04 21:51 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:17 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 08:06 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 09:44 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 10:24 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 10:49 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 10:55 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 11:04 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 04:28 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 05:02 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 06:16 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 06:33 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 06:39 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:17 -0700
                                                Idiot Stephane baune adds another goof to his long list of idiocies posted "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 07:26 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:27 -0700
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 07:40 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:48 -0700
                                                    Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 07:56 -0700
                                                      Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 08:06 -0700
                                                        Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 08:21 -0700
                                                          Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 08:34 -0700
                                                            Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 08:42 -0700
                                                              Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 09:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 09:50 -0700
                                                                  Re: Idiot dono blames books for his stupidity. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:23 -0700
                                                                    Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") back at "work" "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 11:41 -0700
                                                          Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-05 11:04 -0500
                                                            Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 09:42 -0700
                                                            Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 21:27 -0700
                                                              Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 21:57 -0700
                                                                Re: Cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot demnstrates his ignorance Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 22:35 -0700
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 07:58 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:41 -0500
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 09:54 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-05 13:38 -0500
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 11:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 11:52 -0700
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 12:35 -0700
                                                            Cretin Stephane Baune finds a new opportunity to puff himself up "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 12:40 -0700
                                                        Re: idiot dono get owned by Tom # 58 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 12:38 -0700
                                                          idiot rotchm (aka pretender Stephane Baune) acts as the gassbag he is "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 12:42 -0700
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 12:47 -0700
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 21:33 -0700
                                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 22:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 04:24 -0700
                                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 06:19 -0700
                                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 13:11 -0700
                                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 15:05 -0700
                                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 19:56 -0700
                                                                        Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") is back for some fresh embarrassment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-07 20:25 -0700
                                                                    Ignorant Raving Crackpot ...IS "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 15:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: Ignorant Raving Crackpot ...IS Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 15:31 -0700
                                                                        Re: Ignorant Raving Crackpot ...IS "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 16:01 -0700
                                                                      Re: Ignorant Raving Crackpot ...IS rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 19:58 -0700
                                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-07 15:00 +0200
                                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-07 07:19 -0700
                                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 12:26 -0700
                                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-07 16:06 -0700
                                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-08 14:16 +0200
                                                                Stubborn cretin Ignorant Raving Crackpot craps all over himself "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 15:08 -0700
                                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 16:04 -0700
                                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 20:29 -0700
                                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 21:35 -0700
                                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 20:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 02:49 -0700
                                                                        Ignorant Raving Crackpot sucking dick to crackpot Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 06:42 -0700
                                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 21:43 -0700
                                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 23:05 -0700
                                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-07 07:21 -0700
                                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 06:45 -0700
                                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 07:00 -0700
                                                                    Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") butts in and eats some fresh shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 07:12 -0700
                                                                      Re: Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") butts in and eats some fresh shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 07:38 -0700
                                                                        Re: Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") butts in and eats some fresh shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 07:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") butts in and eats some fresh shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 08:06 -0700
                                                                            Re: Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") butts in and eats even more fresh shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 08:27 -0700
                                                                              Re: Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") butts in and eats even more fresh shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 08:34 -0700
                                                                                Resident village idiot Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") butts in and eats even more fresh shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 08:47 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Resident village idiot Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") butts in and eats even more fresh shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 09:03 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Resident village idiot Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") butts in and eats even more fresh shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 09:10 -0700
                                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 08:30 -0700
                                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 04:29 -0700
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 09:58 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:16 -0700
                                                        Cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") persistes "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 11:25 -0700
                                                        Latest imbecility from cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 11:43 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-06 20:50 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-06 21:38 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-04 20:16 -0500
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-04 20:38 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 21:23 -0700
                                      Pretender imbecile Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") chimes in "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 06:14 -0700
                                        Re: Pretender imbecile Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") chimes in rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:10 -0700
                                          Re: Pretender imbecile Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") chimes in "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 07:22 -0700
                                            Re: Pretender imbecile Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") chimes in rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:00 -0700
                                              Re: Pretender imbecile Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") chimes in "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-05 11:13 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:14 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 08:56 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 11:12 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 09:20 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 11:34 -0500
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 09:46 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 11:52 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 10:06 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 12:39 -0500
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 10:47 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 12:57 -0500
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 11:00 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 13:02 -0500
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 11:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 11:49 -0700
                                                        Stephane Baune receives a fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 11:57 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 14:30 -0500
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 11:01 -0700
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 11:07 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 13:13 -0500
                                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 11:27 -0700
                                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 14:33 -0500
                                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 13:41 -0700
                                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 13:51 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 11:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 11:54 -0700
                                                    Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 12:00 -0700
                                                      Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 14:52 -0500
                                                        Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 13:35 -0700
                                                          Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 16:40 -0500
                                                            Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 15:04 -0700
                                                              Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 17:18 -0500
                                                              Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 15:19 -0700
                                                                Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 17:29 -0500
                                                                  Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 15:42 -0700
                                                                    Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 15:53 -0700
                                                                      Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 16:18 -0700
                                                                        Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 16:41 -0700
                                                                          Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 17:18 -0700
                                                                            Re: Idiot dono cant even subtract correctly rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 19:51 -0700
                                                                              Stephane baune, the village idiot, postures "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 20:29 -0700
                                                                                Re: Stephane baune, the village idiot, postures rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 21:30 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Stephane baune, the village idiot, postures "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 21:32 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Stephane baune, the village idiot, postures rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 21:38 -0700
                                                                    Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 18:41 -0500
                                                                    Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-08 23:41 -0500
                                                                      Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 22:46 -0700
                                                                        Re: Idiot dono foams of the mouth now... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:39 -0700
                                                                          Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") creting gets a fresh asshole every time he opens his mouth "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 07:49 -0700
                                                                          Stephane Baune cretin keeps getting fresh assholes (and he likes it) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 07:52 -0700
                                                                          Stephane Baune cretinoid gets a yet another fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 07:54 -0700
                                                                      Re: Idiot dono gets owned #70 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:17 -0700
                                                                        Sttephane baune rushes to suck ass to Tom's imbecilities "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 07:21 -0700
                                                                          Re: Sttephane baune rushes... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 08:11 -0700
                                                                            Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 08:17 -0700
                                                                              Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 09:34 -0700
                                                                                Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 09:42 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 11:17 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit and Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog  rushes to suck his dick "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 13:47 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit and Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog  rushes to suck his dick rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 14:53 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit and Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog  rushes to suck his dick "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 16:02 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit and Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog rushes to suck his dick Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-09 20:58 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit and Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog rushes to suck his dick "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 20:08 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 14:45 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 16:01 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 17:07 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-09 21:17 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 02:56 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 19:11 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 20:09 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 20:55 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 22:32 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 05:06 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 06:43 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 08:04 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 08:35 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 09:25 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 09:28 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 10:31 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 11:05 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Stephane Baune rushes...to eat some more shit rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 14:04 -0700
                                                                  Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-08 23:49 -0500
                                                                Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 15:45 -0700
                                                                  Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 15:49 -0700
                                                              Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-08 23:35 -0500
                                                                Re: Stephane Baune enjoys fresh asshole "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 23:06 -0700
                                                                  Re: Idiot dono ...well, is an idiot... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:57 -0700
                                                                    Stephane Baune cretin, a glutton for punishment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 08:06 -0700
                                                                Re: Idiot dono gets owned by Tom #48 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:13 -0700
                                                                  Stephane Baune pretender comes back for fresh asshole ripping "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 07:19 -0700
                                                                    Re: idiot dono is losing it... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 08:05 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 10:45 -0700
                                            Stephane Baune cretin, desperate for a win "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 10:54 -0700
                                              Re: Stephane Baune cretin, desperate for a win "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 10:57 -0700
                                                Re: Stephane Baune cretin, desperate for a win Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 11:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Stephane Baune cretin, desperate for a win "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 11:13 -0700
                                              Re: Stephane Baune cretin, desperate for a win rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 11:40 -0700
                                                Re: Stephane Baune cretin, desperate for a win "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 11:53 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 10:14 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 10:18 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 10:32 -0700
                                            CRETIN Stephane Baune (aka "rotch") eats some more shit. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 10:40 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 10:37 -0700
                                            Ifnorant raving Crackpot even stupider than cretin Stephane Baune (aka "rotchm") "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 10:44 -0700
                                              Re:IDIOT DONO EVEN DUMBER THAT IDIOT KEN. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 10:51 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-08 18:05 -0500
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 16:21 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 16:45 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-08 23:56 -0500
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 22:54 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 05:56 -0700
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:02 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 07:09 -0700
                                          Re:Idiot dono gets owned #71 rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 08:02 -0700
                                            Stephane Baune rushes to suck ass to his fellow crackpot, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 08:08 -0700
                                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-09 22:35 -0500
                                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 22:29 -0700
                                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 03:17 -0700
                                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 06:41 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 07:53 -0700
                                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 08:31 -0700
                                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 06:04 -0700
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 20:47 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 21:04 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 21:29 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 21:50 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-29 21:28 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 21:57 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-30 07:36 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 15:35 -0700
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-07-30 16:50 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-07-30 09:06 -0500
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 14:34 -0700
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-01 13:15 -0500
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-30 05:16 -0700
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 05:22 -0700
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:17 -0500
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-30 13:04 -0700
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:01 -0500
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-08-03 20:42 +0200
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 17:12 -0500
              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-29 12:51 -0700
                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 15:20 -0500
                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-30 05:22 -0700
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 05:51 -0700
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-30 13:57 +0000
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-30 07:10 -0700
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 08:48 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-30 13:00 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:01 -0500
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:58 -0500
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-30 13:12 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:02 -0500
                              Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-31 17:33 -0700
                                Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:20 -0500
                                  Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-01 06:50 -0700
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-01 15:43 +0000
                                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 15:12 -0500
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-30 18:01 +0000
                    Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:18 -0500
                      Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-30 13:09 -0700
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 13:34 -0700
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-30 13:53 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 14:18 -0700
                        Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:01 -0500
                          Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-07-31 17:28 -0700
                            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:19 -0500
            Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 11:08 -0500

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#387696

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-13 10:20 -0500
Message-ID<nm5m8e$1umo$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#387695
On 7/13/2016 10:13 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:06:09 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/12/2016 9:20 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> RoS is a bogus concept for the following reasons:
>>> 1. Simultaneity of two events can only be measured by an observer in the frame of
>>> the two events and at equal distance from the two events.
>>
>> Bullshit. And assertion is not an argument.
>
> No bullshit.....no two spatially separated events can claim to be truly simultaneous unless
>  it is measured by an observer at the mid point between the two events.

Repeating the assertion doesn't make it any better an argument.

> There is no way for an outside observer to measure the simultaneity of two events moving wrt him.

Bullshit.
You know, you are fond of saying there is no way to do lots of things, 
just because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW. But other people are not as slow as you.

> The observer at the frame of the event can use the LT to transform the time of simultaneity
> between two events in his frame to an outside observer.

And do the LT as I showed you to show how that changes.

> In any case RoS has no effect on any properties of any frame....it is used to cancel out all
> the paradoxes derived from the P2.
>
>>
>>> An outside observer cannot determine the simultaneity of two events in different frames.
>>>
>>> 2. SR says that the speed of light is a universal constant in all frames. This gives rise
>>> to all sorts of paradoxes such as the twin paradox; the barn/pole paradox; the bug/rivet
>>> paradox....etc.  Einstein invented RoS to eliminate these paradoxes by introducing the
>>> bogus concept of RoS. How? RoS says that the closing speed of light (the same as the
>>> speed of light) in the frame of the events is variable....this assertion cancels out the
>>> constant light speed postulate in all frames and in turn cancels out all the paradoxes
>>> derived from it.
>>
>> Fabricated history. First of all, relativity of simultaneity was
>> published in 1905, years BEFORE the first "paradox" was invented. So it
>> would be a neat trick for Einstein to read the future, learn about
>> "paradoxes" that would be invented years later, and then invent
>> relativity of simultaneity BEFOREHAND to explain them away when they
>> appeared later.
>
> That's irrelevant....Einstein realized that his P2 have problems so he introduced the RoS to
> eliminate these problems.

INVENTING HISTORY now includes reading the mind of a dead man. Well 
done, Ken.

>
>>
>> Secondly, closing speed is NOT the same as speed of light. Your
>> assertion is not an argument.
>
> There is no such thing as closing speed between light and any object.

Bullshit. Assertion is not an argument.

> That's why closing speed
> is not measurable....it is an invention to counter the P2.

Bullshit. Closing speed was a concept BEFORE relativity.
Inventing history again.

>>
>>>
>>> 3. In  real life RoS has no effect on the passage of time, length of the events, or any other
>>> physical properties of the events.
>>
>> Data says otherwise. Your assertion is not an argument.
>
> No data says otherwise.....assertion is not an argument.

Bullshit. Denial of existing data in literature is not a valid argument.

>>
>>> IOW, RoS has no physical effect on any properties of the system. It is invented purely to make
>>> SR viable by eliminating the paradoxes derived from the constant light speed postulate.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables


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#387743

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-07-14 04:45 -0700
Message-ID<4511f29e-d8b2-479f-93b2-a098ca4b50fa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387696
On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:20:49 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/13/2016 10:13 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:06:09 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 7/12/2016 9:20 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> RoS is a bogus concept for the following reasons:
> >>> 1. Simultaneity of two events can only be measured by an observer in the frame of
> >>> the two events and at equal distance from the two events.
> >>
> >> Bullshit. And assertion is not an argument.
> >
> > No bullshit.....no two spatially separated events can claim to be truly simultaneous unless
> >  it is measured by an observer at the mid point between the two events.
> 
> Repeating the assertion doesn't make it any better an argument.

That's no assertion.....that's the only way to measure the simultaneity of two events.

> > There is no way for an outside observer to measure the simultaneity of two events moving wrt him.
> 
> Bullshit.
> You know, you are fond of saying there is no way to do lots of things, 
> just because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW. But other people are not as slow as you.

Idiot.....how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two events happened in different frame? 

> > The observer at the frame of the event can use the LT to transform the time of simultaneity
> > between two events in his frame to an outside observer.
> 
> And do the LT as I showed you to show how that changes.
> 
> > In any case RoS has no effect on any properties of any frame....it is used to cancel out all
> > the paradoxes derived from the P2.
> >
> >>
> >>> An outside observer cannot determine the simultaneity of two events in different frames.
> >>>
> >>> 2. SR says that the speed of light is a universal constant in all frames. This gives rise
> >>> to all sorts of paradoxes such as the twin paradox; the barn/pole paradox; the bug/rivet
> >>> paradox....etc.  Einstein invented RoS to eliminate these paradoxes by introducing the
> >>> bogus concept of RoS. How? RoS says that the closing speed of light (the same as the
> >>> speed of light) in the frame of the events is variable....this assertion cancels out the
> >>> constant light speed postulate in all frames and in turn cancels out all the paradoxes
> >>> derived from it.
> >>
> >> Fabricated history. First of all, relativity of simultaneity was
> >> published in 1905, years BEFORE the first "paradox" was invented. So it
> >> would be a neat trick for Einstein to read the future, learn about
> >> "paradoxes" that would be invented years later, and then invent
> >> relativity of simultaneity BEFOREHAND to explain them away when they
> >> appeared later.
> >
> > That's irrelevant....Einstein realized that his P2 have problems so he introduced the RoS to
> > eliminate these problems.
> 
> INVENTING HISTORY now includes reading the mind of a dead man. Well 
> done, Ken.
> 
> >
> >>
> >> Secondly, closing speed is NOT the same as speed of light. Your
> >> assertion is not an argument.
> >
> > There is no such thing as closing speed between light and any object.
> 
> Bullshit. Assertion is not an argument.
> 
> > That's why closing speed
> > is not measurable....it is an invention to counter the P2.
> 
> Bullshit. Closing speed was a concept BEFORE relativity.
> Inventing history again.

Idiot....closing speed between light and any object is isotropic.....closing speed between two material objects is variable.
> 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> 3. In  real life RoS has no effect on the passage of time, length of the events, or any other
> >>> physical properties of the events.
> >>
> >> Data says otherwise. Your assertion is not an argument.
> >
> > No data says otherwise.....assertion is not an argument.
> 
> Bullshit. Denial of existing data in literature is not a valid argument.

I can be convinced if you show me data that shows different closing speeds between light and any object. If not then you are full of shit.

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#387751

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-14 07:08 -0700
Message-ID<b0e1cd04-0dc6-41c5-870f-e4430bb8ccf3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387743
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:45:43 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:

> .how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two 
> events happened in different frame? 

Do you realize that your question doesn't make any sense!? 
*events* dont happen in different frames. All events occur in all frames. 
Perhaps you meant to ask, how does an observer measure the simultaneity of two events?

Well that's simple. The observer may have two clocks, each of which just happen to be at an event. If the values of his clocks indicate the same value, then the events are simul by definition. For example, suppose I bough a new clock but have not set it up; it remains at "noon". I go out for a walk...sometime thereafter my working watch indicates noon as I sneeze (event 1) and then I loose my watch into a pond. When I get back home 1 hour or so, I look at by clock (which indicates noon) and I sneeze (event 2). At both events, the time was noon, so both events are simultaneous by definition. 


> Idiot....closing speed between light and any object is isotropic.....

??? No it is not. 

> closing speed between two material objects is variable.

Yeah... Be it two material bodies or one body & light, "closing speed" is 'variable". You seem confused about the notion of closing speed. 


> I can be convinced if you show me data that shows different 
> closing speeds between light and any object. 

Simple. In my frame I have a light source fixed to the ground. I'm seated and a friend of mine is running towards the source with speed v>0. 

In my frame, the closing speed of the lightfront & my friend is |c - (-v)| = c+v. 

In *his* frame, the closing speed between the lightfront & him is |c - 0| = c.  

See, they are different; c+v <> c. Understood?

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#387815

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-07-15 06:39 -0700
Message-ID<48eff26d-6fcd-4cc8-a850-59e6ff120638@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387751
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:08:45 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:45:43 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> 
> > .how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two 
> > events happened in different frame? 
> 
> Do you realize that your question doesn't make any sense!? 
> *events* dont happen in different frames. All events occur in all frames. 
> Perhaps you meant to ask, how does an observer measure the simultaneity of two events?

How does an observer on earth measures the simultaneity of two events happened on the Moon?

> 
> Well that's simple. The observer may have two clocks, each of which just happen to be at an event. 

You are talking nonsense....The observer on earth may have two clocks at the events on the moon???

>If the values of his clocks indicate the same value, then the events are simul by definition. 

Idiot there is no clock on the moon even if there were no observer at the moon to read them.

>For example, suppose I bough a new clock but have not set it up; it remains at "noon". I go out for a walk...sometime thereafter my working watch indicates noon as I sneeze (event 1) and then I loose my watch into a pond. When I get back home 1 hour or so, I look at by clock (which indicates noon) and I sneeze (event 2). At both events, the time was noon, so both >events are simultaneous by definition. 

This is completely nonsense......You claimed that you can measure simultaneity with one working clock and one not working clock???
> 
> 
> > Idiot....closing speed between light and any object is isotropic.....
> 
> ??? No it is not. 
> 
> > closing speed between two material objects is variable.
> 
> Yeah... Be it two material bodies or one body & light, "closing speed" is 'variable". You seem confused about the notion of closing speed. 

There is no confusion....we can measure the different closing speeds between two material objects but Einstein said that we cannot measure different clock speed between light and any material object.
> 
> 
> > I can be convinced if you show me data that shows different 
> > closing speeds between light and any object. 
> 
> Simple. In my frame I have a light source fixed to the ground. I'm seated and a friend of mine is running towards the source with speed v>0. 
> 
> In my frame, the closing speed of the lightfront & my friend is |c - (-v)| = c+v. 

This is assumed.....not a measurement. Einstein said that your friend measures the closing speed for any light front coming toward him is c.

> 
> In *his* frame, the closing speed between the lightfront & him is |c - 0| = c. 

This is a measurement. 
> 
> See, they are different; c+v <> c. Understood?

Assumptions are not valid argument.

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#387821

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-15 10:07 -0500
Message-ID<nmau7o$1d39$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#387815
On 7/15/2016 8:39 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:08:45 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:45:43 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>
>>> .how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two
>>> events happened in different frame?
>>
>> Do you realize that your question doesn't make any sense!?
>> *events* dont happen in different frames. All events occur in all frames.
>> Perhaps you meant to ask, how does an observer measure the simultaneity of two events?
>
> How does an observer on earth measures the simultaneity of two events happened on the Moon?

Ken, two different frames are not miles apart. They OVERLAP.

The observers in both frames are RIGHT NEXT TO the same events. They 
just happen to be moving next to each other.

You might as well ask, "How does the observer measure the length of a 
rod with his eyes closed?" He doesn't. He opens his eyes.



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#387836

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-07-15 13:13 -0700
Message-ID<613d0c6e-bbee-4722-909b-0f0f66701242@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387821
On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 11:07:39 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/15/2016 8:39 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:08:45 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
> >> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:45:43 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>
> >>> .how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two
> >>> events happened in different frame?
> >>
> >> Do you realize that your question doesn't make any sense!?
> >> *events* dont happen in different frames. All events occur in all frames.
> >> Perhaps you meant to ask, how does an observer measure the simultaneity of two events?
> >
> > How does an observer on earth measures the simultaneity of two events happened on the Moon?
> 
> Ken, two different frames are not miles apart. They OVERLAP.

Still how do you measure the simultaneity of two events on the moon?

> 
> The observers in both frames are RIGHT NEXT TO the same events. They 
> just happen to be moving next to each other.

ROTFLOL....So are you saying that you are next to the guy on the moon??????
> 
> You might as well ask, "How does the observer measure the length of a 
> rod with his eyes closed?" He doesn't. He opens his eyes.

How does that related to what we were discussing?????

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#387840

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-15 15:43 -0500
Message-ID<nmbhu9$d9q$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#387836
On 7/15/2016 3:13 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 11:07:39 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/15/2016 8:39 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:08:45 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:45:43 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> .how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two
>>>>> events happened in different frame?
>>>>
>>>> Do you realize that your question doesn't make any sense!?
>>>> *events* dont happen in different frames. All events occur in all frames.
>>>> Perhaps you meant to ask, how does an observer measure the simultaneity of two events?
>>>
>>> How does an observer on earth measures the simultaneity of two events happened on the Moon?
>>
>> Ken, two different frames are not miles apart. They OVERLAP.
>
> Still how do you measure the simultaneity of two events on the moon?

If you have to, you go to the moon.

But why would anybody do that to show this principle works? Scientists 
do experiments where it is feasible to show the principle works, not 
where it's really difficult to show the principle works.

If you wanted to show that the pressure of water at depth h is given by 
(density)(g)(h), a scientist would do this in a swimming pool. Would you 
ask him how to show that it's true at the bottom of the Marianas Trench 
in the Pacific Ocean?

>
>>
>> The observers in both frames are RIGHT NEXT TO the same events. They
>> just happen to be moving next to each other.
>
> ROTFLOL....So are you saying that you are next to the guy on the moon??????
>>
>> You might as well ask, "How does the observer measure the length of a
>> rod with his eyes closed?" He doesn't. He opens his eyes.
>
> How does that related to what we were discussing?????
>

You are the one asking all the questions about the moon. Nobody needs to 
measure the simultaneity of events on the moon. It is sufficient to show 
this principle works on earth. And that's where they do it.


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#387845

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-07-15 14:17 -0700
Message-ID<28654426-3c08-42fc-be79-4224db5097c8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387840
On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 4:43:57 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/15/2016 3:13 PM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 11:07:39 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 7/15/2016 8:39 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:08:45 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:45:43 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> .how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two
> >>>>> events happened in different frame?
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you realize that your question doesn't make any sense!?
> >>>> *events* dont happen in different frames. All events occur in all frames.
> >>>> Perhaps you meant to ask, how does an observer measure the simultaneity of two events?
> >>>
> >>> How does an observer on earth measures the simultaneity of two events happened on the Moon?
> >>
> >> Ken, two different frames are not miles apart. They OVERLAP.
> >
> > Still how do you measure the simultaneity of two events on the moon?
> 
> If you have to, you go to the moon.
> 
> But why would anybody do that to show this principle works? Scientists 
> do experiments where it is feasible to show the principle works, not 
> where it's really difficult to show the principle works.
> 
> If you wanted to show that the pressure of water at depth h is given by 
> (density)(g)(h), a scientist would do this in a swimming pool. Would you 
> ask him how to show that it's true at the bottom of the Marianas Trench 
> in the Pacific Ocean?
> 
> >
> >>
> >> The observers in both frames are RIGHT NEXT TO the same events. They
> >> just happen to be moving next to each other.
> >
> > ROTFLOL....So are you saying that you are next to the guy on the moon??????
> >>
> >> You might as well ask, "How does the observer measure the length of a
> >> rod with his eyes closed?" He doesn't. He opens his eyes.
> >
> > How does that related to what we were discussing?????
> >
> 
> You are the one asking all the questions about the moon. Nobody needs to 
> measure the simultaneity of events on the moon. It is sufficient to show 
> this principle works on earth. And that's where they do it.

You guys claimed that you can measure the simultaneity of two events anywhere by putting two synchronized clock at the locations of the events. That's why I asked you how you are going to do that if the events were on the moon.
I disagreed with your assertions. I said that the simultaneity of two events can only  be measured if the observer is at equal distance from the events. Or you can place two synched clocks at the locations of the events.....however, this approach requires two absolutely synched clocks and if you have such pair of clock why don't you use them to measure the one-way speed of light directly?

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#387901

From"HGW." <hw@....>
Date2016-07-17 08:45 +1000
Message-ID<nmedea$1v46$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#387845
On 16/07/16 07:17, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 4:43:57 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:

>>> How does that related to what we were discussing?????
>>>
>>
>> You are the one asking all the questions about the moon. Nobody
>> needs to measure the simultaneity of events on the moon. It is
>> sufficient to show this principle works on earth. And that's where
>> they do it.
>
> You guys claimed that you can measure the simultaneity of two events
> anywhere by putting two synchronized clock at the locations of the
> events. That's why I asked you how you are going to do that if the
> events were on the moon. I disagreed with your assertions.

>I said
> that the simultaneity of two events can only  be measured if the
> observer is at equal distance from the events.

That is an interesting claim. Even then, it has to be assumed that 
information about the events is sent to the observer at the same speed.
An aetherist would have a very different view from a Newtonian as to how 
that can be done and how it would affect the very definition of 
simultaneity.

>Or you can place two
> synched clocks at the locations of the events.....however, this
> approach requires two absolutely synched clocks and if you have such
> pair of clock why don't you use them to measure the one-way speed of
> light directly?

Good point, Ken. These fellows are morons who rarely know what they are 
arguing about.


>


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#387830

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-15 11:06 -0700
Message-ID<f8d51556-2708-4a4c-85f6-323d6982898c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387815
On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 9:39:40 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:

> How does an observer on earth measures the simultaneity of two events 
> happened on the Moon?

I explained it to you. Cant you read? Or is your short term memory limited to 3 hours? 

 
> > Well that's simple. The observer may have two clocks, 
> > each of which just happen to be at an event. 
> 
> You are talking nonsense....The observer on earth may have two clocks 
> at the events on the moon???

Yes. Or instead of the moon, take a lab on a train. Same idea. 
But if he doesnt have any clocks available, he uses a different method, that I also explained to you and that you snipped out. 


> >If the values of his clocks indicate the same value, 
> > then the events are simul by definition. 
> 
> Idiot there is no clock on the moon even if there were no 
> observer at the moon to read them.

You are confused on the notion of 'event' & 'observer'. 

> This is completely nonsense......You claimed that you can measure 
> simultaneity with one working clock and one not working clock???

Yes, since its a matter of *definition*. If I defined it that way, then its that way! You seem to be confused about the notion of 'conventions' & 'definitions'. 


> > In my frame, the closing speed of the lightfront & my friend 
> > is |c - (-v)| = c+v. 
> 
> This is assumed.....not a measurement.

Its part of the initial conditions that YOU set up. If you say that x=5 & y = 2, then x+y = 7. The '7' is NOT assumed; it is deduced from the initial conditions. 
No measurements required. If I measure the SoL I get c. I can measure the speed of a car; say, its 10. Then the closing speed (meaning, the difference) of those two values is c-10  (or c+10 if its the other way). 

 > Einstein said that your friend measures the closing speed for any 
> light front coming toward him is c.

So? That is NOT what we are talking about. We are talking about closing speed measured in MY frame. 
 
> > In *his* frame, the closing speed between the lightfront & him 
> is |c - 0| = c. 
> 
> This is a measurement. 

So ?


> > See, they are different; c+v <> c. Understood?
> 
> Assumptions are not valid argument.


Its not an assumption; its basic math: if v <> 0 then c+v <> c. You deny that???

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#387756

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-14 09:30 -0500
Message-ID<nm87lr$1ev8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#387743
On 7/14/2016 6:45 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:20:49 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/13/2016 10:13 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:06:09 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 7/12/2016 9:20 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> RoS is a bogus concept for the following reasons:
>>>>> 1. Simultaneity of two events can only be measured by an observer in the frame of
>>>>> the two events and at equal distance from the two events.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. And assertion is not an argument.
>>>
>>> No bullshit.....no two spatially separated events can claim to be truly simultaneous unless
>>>  it is measured by an observer at the mid point between the two events.
>>
>> Repeating the assertion doesn't make it any better an argument.
>
> That's no assertion.....that's the only way to measure the simultaneity of two events.

No, Ken, it's not. There are DOCUMENTED means for measuring simultaneity 
that you seem to be unaware of.

>
>>> There is no way for an outside observer to measure the simultaneity of two events moving wrt him.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>> You know, you are fond of saying there is no way to do lots of things,
>> just because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW. But other people are not as slow as you.
>
> Idiot.....how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two events happened
> in different frame?

Any event is in ALL frames. You know this, right?
Or do you not know what a reference frame is?
Do you seriously think that only the observer that is stationary in a 
reference frame can see the events in that frame and that no one in any 
other reference frame can see the events?

This past Fourth of July, I was sitting on the grass watching fireworks. 
A train went by in the middle of the show. The conductor in the train 
was at rest in a different reference frame than mine. Do you really 
think he could not see the events of each firework exploding that I 
could see, just because we were in different frames?

>
>>> The observer at the frame of the event can use the LT to transform the time of simultaneity
>>> between two events in his frame to an outside observer.
>>
>> And do the LT as I showed you to show how that changes.
>>
>>> In any case RoS has no effect on any properties of any frame....it is used to cancel out all
>>> the paradoxes derived from the P2.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> An outside observer cannot determine the simultaneity of two events in different frames.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. SR says that the speed of light is a universal constant in all frames. This gives rise
>>>>> to all sorts of paradoxes such as the twin paradox; the barn/pole paradox; the bug/rivet
>>>>> paradox....etc.  Einstein invented RoS to eliminate these paradoxes by introducing the
>>>>> bogus concept of RoS. How? RoS says that the closing speed of light (the same as the
>>>>> speed of light) in the frame of the events is variable....this assertion cancels out the
>>>>> constant light speed postulate in all frames and in turn cancels out all the paradoxes
>>>>> derived from it.
>>>>
>>>> Fabricated history. First of all, relativity of simultaneity was
>>>> published in 1905, years BEFORE the first "paradox" was invented. So it
>>>> would be a neat trick for Einstein to read the future, learn about
>>>> "paradoxes" that would be invented years later, and then invent
>>>> relativity of simultaneity BEFOREHAND to explain them away when they
>>>> appeared later.
>>>
>>> That's irrelevant....Einstein realized that his P2 have problems so he introduced the RoS to
>>> eliminate these problems.
>>
>> INVENTING HISTORY now includes reading the mind of a dead man. Well
>> done, Ken.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, closing speed is NOT the same as speed of light. Your
>>>> assertion is not an argument.
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as closing speed between light and any object.
>>
>> Bullshit. Assertion is not an argument.
>>
>>> That's why closing speed
>>> is not measurable....it is an invention to counter the P2.
>>
>> Bullshit. Closing speed was a concept BEFORE relativity.
>> Inventing history again.
>
> Idiot....closing speed between light and any object is isotropic.

Bullshit, Ken. Simply not true.

>....closing speed between two material objects is variable.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. In  real life RoS has no effect on the passage of time, length of the events, or any other
>>>>> physical properties of the events.
>>>>
>>>> Data says otherwise. Your assertion is not an argument.
>>>
>>> No data says otherwise.....assertion is not an argument.
>>
>> Bullshit. Denial of existing data in literature is not a valid argument.
>
> I can be convinced if you show me data that shows different closing speeds between light
> and any object. If not then you are full of shit.

Ken, you always assume you're right until someone spoonfeeds you 
information. And even then you don't believe it.

>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#387778

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-07-14 13:38 -0700
Message-ID<932890cc-1aa2-4088-b4d5-cc398a15b64a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387756
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 6:45 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:20:49 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 7/13/2016 10:13 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:06:09 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 7/12/2016 9:20 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> RoS is a bogus concept for the following reasons:
> >>>>> 1. Simultaneity of two events can only be measured by an observer in the frame of
> >>>>> the two events and at equal distance from the two events.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bullshit. And assertion is not an argument.
> >>>
> >>> No bullshit.....no two spatially separated events can claim to be truly simultaneous unless
> >>>  it is measured by an observer at the mid point between the two events.
> >>
> >> Repeating the assertion doesn't make it any better an argument.
> >
> > That's no assertion.....that's the only way to measure the simultaneity of two events.
> 
> No, Ken, it's not. There are DOCUMENTED means for measuring simultaneity 
> that you seem to be unaware of. 

The only way to measure simultaneity correctly: the observer is in the rest frame of the two events and mid-way between the two events.
> 
> >
> >>> There is no way for an outside observer to measure the simultaneity of two events moving wrt him.
> >>
> >> Bullshit.
> >> You know, you are fond of saying there is no way to do lots of things,
> >> just because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW. But other people are not as slow as you.
> >
> > Idiot.....how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two events happened
> > in different frame?
> 
> Any event is in ALL frames. You know this, right?

An event is an object.....it is at rest in its own frame.

> Or do you not know what a reference frame is?

> Do you seriously think that only the observer that is stationary in a 
> reference frame can see the events in that frame and that no one in any 
> other reference frame can see the events?
 
I am in a spaceship and two events happened simultaneously inside the ship. You are on earth .....do you know that two events happened simultaneously in the ship without me telling you? Guess not.
> 
> This past Fourth of July, I was sitting on the grass watching fireworks. 
> A train went by in the middle of the show. The conductor in the train 
> was at rest in a different reference frame than mine. Do you really 
> think he could not see the events of each firework exploding that I 
> could see, just because we were in different frames?

The train is moving between New York and Boston and certainly the conductor can't see the firework in Ohio. You can use the LT to inform him that two fire work go off simultaneously in your frame.
> 
> >
> >>> The observer at the frame of the event can use the LT to transform the time of simultaneity
> >>> between two events in his frame to an outside observer.
> >>
> >> And do the LT as I showed you to show how that changes.
> >>
> >>> In any case RoS has no effect on any properties of any frame....it is used to cancel out all
> >>> the paradoxes derived from the P2.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> An outside observer cannot determine the simultaneity of two events in different frames.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. SR says that the speed of light is a universal constant in all frames. This gives rise
> >>>>> to all sorts of paradoxes such as the twin paradox; the barn/pole paradox; the bug/rivet
> >>>>> paradox....etc.  Einstein invented RoS to eliminate these paradoxes by introducing the
> >>>>> bogus concept of RoS. How? RoS says that the closing speed of light (the same as the
> >>>>> speed of light) in the frame of the events is variable....this assertion cancels out the
> >>>>> constant light speed postulate in all frames and in turn cancels out all the paradoxes
> >>>>> derived from it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fabricated history. First of all, relativity of simultaneity was
> >>>> published in 1905, years BEFORE the first "paradox" was invented. So it
> >>>> would be a neat trick for Einstein to read the future, learn about
> >>>> "paradoxes" that would be invented years later, and then invent
> >>>> relativity of simultaneity BEFOREHAND to explain them away when they
> >>>> appeared later.
> >>>
> >>> That's irrelevant....Einstein realized that his P2 have problems so he introduced the RoS to
> >>> eliminate these problems.
> >>
> >> INVENTING HISTORY now includes reading the mind of a dead man. Well
> >> done, Ken.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Secondly, closing speed is NOT the same as speed of light. Your
> >>>> assertion is not an argument.
> >>>
> >>> There is no such thing as closing speed between light and any object.
> >>
> >> Bullshit. Assertion is not an argument.
> >>
> >>> That's why closing speed
> >>> is not measurable....it is an invention to counter the P2.
> >>
> >> Bullshit. Closing speed was a concept BEFORE relativity.
> >> Inventing history again.
> >
> > Idiot....closing speed between light and any object is isotropic.
> 
> Bullshit, Ken. Simply not true.
> 
> >....closing speed between two material objects is variable.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3. In  real life RoS has no effect on the passage of time, length of the events, or any other
> >>>>> physical properties of the events.
> >>>>
> >>>> Data says otherwise. Your assertion is not an argument.
> >>>
> >>> No data says otherwise.....assertion is not an argument.
> >>
> >> Bullshit. Denial of existing data in literature is not a valid argument.
> >
> > I can be convinced if you show me data that shows different closing speeds between light
> > and any object. If not then you are full of shit.
> 
> Ken, you always assume you're right until someone spoonfeeds you 
> information. And even then you don't believe it.
> 

So I guess that you admit that you were full of shit.....no data available showing different  closing velocity between light and any object.....BTW that why we measure light speed to be isotropic.

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#387780

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-14 15:45 -0500
Message-ID<nm8tl4$lld$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#387778
On 7/14/2016 3:38 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/14/2016 6:45 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:20:49 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 7/13/2016 10:13 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:06:09 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/12/2016 9:20 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>> RoS is a bogus concept for the following reasons:
>>>>>>> 1. Simultaneity of two events can only be measured by an observer in the frame of
>>>>>>> the two events and at equal distance from the two events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. And assertion is not an argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> No bullshit.....no two spatially separated events can claim to be truly simultaneous unless
>>>>>  it is measured by an observer at the mid point between the two events.
>>>>
>>>> Repeating the assertion doesn't make it any better an argument.
>>>
>>> That's no assertion.....that's the only way to measure the simultaneity of two events.
>>
>> No, Ken, it's not. There are DOCUMENTED means for measuring simultaneity
>> that you seem to be unaware of.
>
> The only way to measure simultaneity correctly: the observer is in the rest frame of the two
> events and mid-way between the two events.

Still wrong. You're going to have to get it through your head that there 
are correct ways to measure simultaneity other than the one way you know.

>>
>>>
>>>>> There is no way for an outside observer to measure the simultaneity of two events moving wrt him.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>> You know, you are fond of saying there is no way to do lots of things,
>>>> just because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW. But other people are not as slow as you.
>>>
>>> Idiot.....how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two events happened
>>> in different frame?
>>
>> Any event is in ALL frames. You know this, right?
>
> An event is an object.....it is at rest in its own frame.

No. An event is not an object. Nor is it at rest in ANY frame. An event 
has no time duration. For something to be at rest, it has to have a time 
duration.

>
>> Or do you not know what a reference frame is?
>
>> Do you seriously think that only the observer that is stationary in a
>> reference frame can see the events in that frame and that no one in any
>> other reference frame can see the events?
>
> I am in a spaceship and two events happened simultaneously inside the ship.
> You are on earth .....do you know that two events happened simultaneously
> in the ship without me telling you? Guess not.

Two different frames are NOT SEPARATED BY A LARGE DISTANCE.

>>
>> This past Fourth of July, I was sitting on the grass watching fireworks.
>> A train went by in the middle of the show. The conductor in the train
>> was at rest in a different reference frame than mine. Do you really
>> think he could not see the events of each firework exploding that I
>> could see, just because we were in different frames?
>
> The train is moving between New York and Boston and certainly the conductor
> can't see the firework in Ohio. You can use the LT to inform him that two fire
> work go off simultaneously in your frame.

Again, two frames are not separated by large distances. Frames OVERLAP. 
There is no spatial separation between frames.

The train I mentioned was not in another state. It was right nearby the 
fireworks. It was at rest in different frame than my own rest frame. But 
we BOTH still saw the fireworks.

I don't know where you ever got the STUUUUUUPID idea that reference 
frames are separated by large distances.

>>
>>>
>>>>> The observer at the frame of the event can use the LT to transform the time of simultaneity
>>>>> between two events in his frame to an outside observer.
>>>>
>>>> And do the LT as I showed you to show how that changes.
>>>>
>>>>> In any case RoS has no effect on any properties of any frame....it is used to cancel out all
>>>>> the paradoxes derived from the P2.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An outside observer cannot determine the simultaneity of two events in different frames.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. SR says that the speed of light is a universal constant in all frames. This gives rise
>>>>>>> to all sorts of paradoxes such as the twin paradox; the barn/pole paradox; the bug/rivet
>>>>>>> paradox....etc.  Einstein invented RoS to eliminate these paradoxes by introducing the
>>>>>>> bogus concept of RoS. How? RoS says that the closing speed of light (the same as the
>>>>>>> speed of light) in the frame of the events is variable....this assertion cancels out the
>>>>>>> constant light speed postulate in all frames and in turn cancels out all the paradoxes
>>>>>>> derived from it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fabricated history. First of all, relativity of simultaneity was
>>>>>> published in 1905, years BEFORE the first "paradox" was invented. So it
>>>>>> would be a neat trick for Einstein to read the future, learn about
>>>>>> "paradoxes" that would be invented years later, and then invent
>>>>>> relativity of simultaneity BEFOREHAND to explain them away when they
>>>>>> appeared later.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's irrelevant....Einstein realized that his P2 have problems so he introduced the RoS to
>>>>> eliminate these problems.
>>>>
>>>> INVENTING HISTORY now includes reading the mind of a dead man. Well
>>>> done, Ken.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Secondly, closing speed is NOT the same as speed of light. Your
>>>>>> assertion is not an argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no such thing as closing speed between light and any object.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Assertion is not an argument.
>>>>
>>>>> That's why closing speed
>>>>> is not measurable....it is an invention to counter the P2.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Closing speed was a concept BEFORE relativity.
>>>> Inventing history again.
>>>
>>> Idiot....closing speed between light and any object is isotropic.
>>
>> Bullshit, Ken. Simply not true.
>>
>>> ....closing speed between two material objects is variable.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. In  real life RoS has no effect on the passage of time, length of the events, or any other
>>>>>>> physical properties of the events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Data says otherwise. Your assertion is not an argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> No data says otherwise.....assertion is not an argument.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Denial of existing data in literature is not a valid argument.
>>>
>>> I can be convinced if you show me data that shows different closing speeds between light
>>> and any object. If not then you are full of shit.
>>
>> Ken, you always assume you're right until someone spoonfeeds you
>> information. And even then you don't believe it.
>>
>
> So I guess that you admit that you were full of shit.....no data available showing different
> closing velocity between light and any object.....BTW that why we measure light speed to be isotropic.

No, I don't admit any such thing. I refuse to spoonfeed you. Your 
response to not being spoonfed is ALWAYS to call the other person wrong.

>


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#387804

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-07-14 23:40 -0700
Message-ID<9386d009-b99b-42e2-9080-db006a454f18@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387780
W dniu czwartek, 14 lipca 2016 22:45:28 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:

> Still wrong. You're going to have to get it through your head that there 
> are correct ways to measure simultaneity other than the one way you know.

They're obviously correct, as Great Guru said
they are. Could the path of such a great guru
be incorrect?

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#387794

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-14 17:16 -0700
Message-ID<5bcf5ad1-f75b-47e5-8540-6e0ecd654054@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387778
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 4:38:30 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:

> The only way to measure simultaneity correctly: the observer is in
> the rest frame of the two events and mid-way between the two events.

An event does not have a frame and even less a rest frame.
Take for instance two flintrocks colliding and making a spark (which rock is moving?) The event is the spark. What is the "rest fame" of the spark? 


> An event is an object.....

No. An event is a selection of a pair (x,t), like (0,0) or (-2,5) etc. those are events. Physically, its an occurrence, a "flash", a brief explosion. 


> it is at rest in its own frame.

You throw a flintrock onto the ground and it makes a spark. What is the rest frame of the spark? Its the ground? Or the frame of the rock? Oe some other frame?


> I am in a spaceship and two events happened simultaneously inside the 
> ship. You are on earth .....do you know that two events happened 
> simultaneously in the ship without me telling you? Guess not.

Yes we can know, by measuring the position and time of the events in my frame, then applying the LT's. These will tell me if the events are simul in your frame. We then can verify by asking you. (such exps have been done btw). 

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#387803

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-07-14 23:36 -0700
Message-ID<8c528fc7-abf6-4426-bb75-f89792c63cc8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387756
W dniu czwartek, 14 lipca 2016 16:30:23 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> This past Fourth of July, I was sitting on the grass watching fireworks. 
> A train went by in the middle of the show. The conductor in the train 
> was at rest in a different reference frame than mine. Do you really 
> think he could not see the events of each firework exploding that I 
> could see, just because we were in different frames?

And do you really think that an event that happened
12.07.2016 08:30:21 for you happened  12.07.2016 08:34:12
for him?

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#387818

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-07-15 07:07 -0700
Message-ID<d25fdfe1-a171-4a6f-b560-0525931a69d6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387756
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 6:45 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:20:49 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 7/13/2016 10:13 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:06:09 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 7/12/2016 9:20 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> RoS is a bogus concept for the following reasons:
> >>>>> 1. Simultaneity of two events can only be measured by an observer in the frame of
> >>>>> the two events and at equal distance from the two events.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bullshit. And assertion is not an argument.
> >>>
> >>> No bullshit.....no two spatially separated events can claim to be truly simultaneous unless
> >>>  it is measured by an observer at the mid point between the two events.
> >>
> >> Repeating the assertion doesn't make it any better an argument.
> >
> > That's no assertion.....that's the only way to measure the simultaneity of two events.
> 
> No, Ken, it's not. There are DOCUMENTED means for measuring simultaneity 
> that you seem to be unaware of.

So how do you measure the simultaneity of two events happened on the moon?

> >>> There is no way for an outside observer to measure the simultaneity of two events moving wrt him.
> >>
> >> Bullshit.
> >> You know, you are fond of saying there is no way to do lots of things,
> >> just because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW. But other people are not as slow as you.
> >
> > Idiot.....how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two events happened
> > in different frame?
> 
> Any event is in ALL frames. You know this, right?

Yes.....so what?

> Or do you not know what a reference frame is?
> Do you seriously think that only the observer that is stationary in a 
> reference frame can see the events in that frame and that no one in any 
> other reference frame can see the events?

You can't see two events happened at the moon.....even if you saw them you cannot measure if they were simultaneous. Simultaneity can only be measured at the mid point between the two events and in the frame of the events.

> 
> This past Fourth of July, I was sitting on the grass watching fireworks. 
> A train went by in the middle of the show. The conductor in the train 
> was at rest in a different reference frame than mine. Do you really 
> think he could not see the events of each firework exploding that I 
> could see, just because we were in different frames?
> 
> >
> >>> The observer at the frame of the event can use the LT to transform the time of simultaneity
> >>> between two events in his frame to an outside observer.
> >>
> >> And do the LT as I showed you to show how that changes.
> >>
> >>> In any case RoS has no effect on any properties of any frame....it is used to cancel out all
> >>> the paradoxes derived from the P2.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> An outside observer cannot determine the simultaneity of two events in different frames.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. SR says that the speed of light is a universal constant in all frames. This gives rise
> >>>>> to all sorts of paradoxes such as the twin paradox; the barn/pole paradox; the bug/rivet
> >>>>> paradox....etc.  Einstein invented RoS to eliminate these paradoxes by introducing the
> >>>>> bogus concept of RoS. How? RoS says that the closing speed of light (the same as the
> >>>>> speed of light) in the frame of the events is variable....this assertion cancels out the
> >>>>> constant light speed postulate in all frames and in turn cancels out all the paradoxes
> >>>>> derived from it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fabricated history. First of all, relativity of simultaneity was
> >>>> published in 1905, years BEFORE the first "paradox" was invented. So it
> >>>> would be a neat trick for Einstein to read the future, learn about
> >>>> "paradoxes" that would be invented years later, and then invent
> >>>> relativity of simultaneity BEFOREHAND to explain them away when they
> >>>> appeared later.
> >>>
> >>> That's irrelevant....Einstein realized that his P2 have problems so he introduced the RoS to
> >>> eliminate these problems.
> >>
> >> INVENTING HISTORY now includes reading the mind of a dead man. Well
> >> done, Ken.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Secondly, closing speed is NOT the same as speed of light. Your
> >>>> assertion is not an argument.
> >>>
> >>> There is no such thing as closing speed between light and any object.
> >>
> >> Bullshit. Assertion is not an argument.
> >>
> >>> That's why closing speed
> >>> is not measurable....it is an invention to counter the P2.
> >>
> >> Bullshit. Closing speed was a concept BEFORE relativity.
> >> Inventing history again.
> >
> > Idiot....closing speed between light and any object is isotropic.
> 
> Bullshit, Ken. Simply not true.
> 
> >....closing speed between two material objects is variable.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3. In  real life RoS has no effect on the passage of time, length of the events, or any other
> >>>>> physical properties of the events.
> >>>>
> >>>> Data says otherwise. Your assertion is not an argument.
> >>>
> >>> No data says otherwise.....assertion is not an argument.
> >>
> >> Bullshit. Denial of existing data in literature is not a valid argument.
> >
> > I can be convinced if you show me data that shows different closing speeds between light
> > and any object. If not then you are full of shit.
> 
> Ken, you always assume you're right until someone spoonfeeds you 
> information. And even then you don't believe it.

ROTFLOL....you can't show me any data so you tried to bullshit your way out.

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#387822

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-15 10:13 -0500
Message-ID<nmauhv$1e49$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#387818
On 7/15/2016 9:07 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/14/2016 6:45 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:20:49 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 7/13/2016 10:13 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:06:09 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/12/2016 9:20 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>> RoS is a bogus concept for the following reasons:
>>>>>>> 1. Simultaneity of two events can only be measured by an observer in the frame of
>>>>>>> the two events and at equal distance from the two events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. And assertion is not an argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> No bullshit.....no two spatially separated events can claim to be truly simultaneous unless
>>>>>  it is measured by an observer at the mid point between the two events.
>>>>
>>>> Repeating the assertion doesn't make it any better an argument.
>>>
>>> That's no assertion.....that's the only way to measure the simultaneity of two events.
>>
>> No, Ken, it's not. There are DOCUMENTED means for measuring simultaneity
>> that you seem to be unaware of.
>
> So how do you measure the simultaneity of two events happened on the moon?

I go to the moon.

But I don't have to check with events on the moon.

>
>>>>> There is no way for an outside observer to measure the simultaneity of two events moving wrt him.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>> You know, you are fond of saying there is no way to do lots of things,
>>>> just because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW. But other people are not as slow as you.
>>>
>>> Idiot.....how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two events happened
>>> in different frame?
>>
>> Any event is in ALL frames. You know this, right?
>
> Yes.....so what?

So any observers in any two different frames can observe the same 
events, as long as both observers are close.

>
>> Or do you not know what a reference frame is?
>> Do you seriously think that only the observer that is stationary in a
>> reference frame can see the events in that frame and that no one in any
>> other reference frame can see the events?
>
> You can't see two events happened at the moon.....even if you saw them
> you cannot measure if they were simultaneous.

That's not true.

> Simultaneity can only be measured at the mid point between the two events and
> in the frame of the events.

Bullshit. It's the only way YOU can think of to do it, but it sure isn't 
the only way.

>
>>
>> This past Fourth of July, I was sitting on the grass watching fireworks.
>> A train went by in the middle of the show. The conductor in the train
>> was at rest in a different reference frame than mine. Do you really
>> think he could not see the events of each firework exploding that I
>> could see, just because we were in different frames?
>>
>>>
>>>>> The observer at the frame of the event can use the LT to transform the time of simultaneity
>>>>> between two events in his frame to an outside observer.
>>>>
>>>> And do the LT as I showed you to show how that changes.
>>>>
>>>>> In any case RoS has no effect on any properties of any frame....it is used to cancel out all
>>>>> the paradoxes derived from the P2.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An outside observer cannot determine the simultaneity of two events in different frames.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. SR says that the speed of light is a universal constant in all frames. This gives rise
>>>>>>> to all sorts of paradoxes such as the twin paradox; the barn/pole paradox; the bug/rivet
>>>>>>> paradox....etc.  Einstein invented RoS to eliminate these paradoxes by introducing the
>>>>>>> bogus concept of RoS. How? RoS says that the closing speed of light (the same as the
>>>>>>> speed of light) in the frame of the events is variable....this assertion cancels out the
>>>>>>> constant light speed postulate in all frames and in turn cancels out all the paradoxes
>>>>>>> derived from it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fabricated history. First of all, relativity of simultaneity was
>>>>>> published in 1905, years BEFORE the first "paradox" was invented. So it
>>>>>> would be a neat trick for Einstein to read the future, learn about
>>>>>> "paradoxes" that would be invented years later, and then invent
>>>>>> relativity of simultaneity BEFOREHAND to explain them away when they
>>>>>> appeared later.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's irrelevant....Einstein realized that his P2 have problems so he introduced the RoS to
>>>>> eliminate these problems.
>>>>
>>>> INVENTING HISTORY now includes reading the mind of a dead man. Well
>>>> done, Ken.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Secondly, closing speed is NOT the same as speed of light. Your
>>>>>> assertion is not an argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no such thing as closing speed between light and any object.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Assertion is not an argument.
>>>>
>>>>> That's why closing speed
>>>>> is not measurable....it is an invention to counter the P2.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Closing speed was a concept BEFORE relativity.
>>>> Inventing history again.
>>>
>>> Idiot....closing speed between light and any object is isotropic.
>>
>> Bullshit, Ken. Simply not true.
>>
>>> ....closing speed between two material objects is variable.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. In  real life RoS has no effect on the passage of time, length of the events, or any other
>>>>>>> physical properties of the events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Data says otherwise. Your assertion is not an argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> No data says otherwise.....assertion is not an argument.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Denial of existing data in literature is not a valid argument.
>>>
>>> I can be convinced if you show me data that shows different closing speeds between light
>>> and any object. If not then you are full of shit.
>>
>> Ken, you always assume you're right until someone spoonfeeds you
>> information. And even then you don't believe it.
>
> ROTFLOL....you can't show me any data so you tried to bullshit your way out.

Ken, I'm happy to tell you a book to find the data in, but you're too 
fucking lazy to get out of the house.


-- 
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#387837

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-07-15 13:27 -0700
Message-ID<e3016426-4bb7-4c75-b02f-a90fa9b1f0ac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#387822
On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 11:13:07 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/15/2016 9:07 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 7/14/2016 6:45 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:20:49 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 7/13/2016 10:13 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:06:09 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> On 7/12/2016 9:20 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>> RoS is a bogus concept for the following reasons:
> >>>>>>> 1. Simultaneity of two events can only be measured by an observer in the frame of
> >>>>>>> the two events and at equal distance from the two events.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bullshit. And assertion is not an argument.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No bullshit.....no two spatially separated events can claim to be truly simultaneous unless
> >>>>>  it is measured by an observer at the mid point between the two events.
> >>>>
> >>>> Repeating the assertion doesn't make it any better an argument.
> >>>
> >>> That's no assertion.....that's the only way to measure the simultaneity of two events.
> >>
> >> No, Ken, it's not. There are DOCUMENTED means for measuring simultaneity
> >> that you seem to be unaware of.
> >
> > So how do you measure the simultaneity of two events happened on the moon?
> 
> I go to the moon.

Great...you go to the moon......but I doubt that you are physically fit.

> 
> But I don't have to check with events on the moon.

So how else do you do the measurement?
> 
> >
> >>>>> There is no way for an outside observer to measure the simultaneity of two events moving wrt him.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bullshit.
> >>>> You know, you are fond of saying there is no way to do lots of things,
> >>>> just because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW. But other people are not as slow as you.
> >>>
> >>> Idiot.....how does an outside observer measure the simultaneity of two events happened
> >>> in different frame?
> >>
> >> Any event is in ALL frames. You know this, right?
> >
> > Yes.....so what?
> 
> So any observers in any two different frames can observe the same 
> events, as long as both observers are close.

But you and the guy on the moon are 1/4 million miles apart.....is that close?
> 
> >
> >> Or do you not know what a reference frame is?
> >> Do you seriously think that only the observer that is stationary in a
> >> reference frame can see the events in that frame and that no one in any
> >> other reference frame can see the events?
> >
> > You can't see two events happened at the moon.....even if you saw them
> > you cannot measure if they were simultaneous.
> 
> That's not true.
> 
> > Simultaneity can only be measured at the mid point between the two events and
> > in the frame of the events.
> 
> Bullshit. It's the only way YOU can think of to do it, but it sure isn't 
> the only way.

Thats' the only way to measure the true simultaneity of two events.

> >> This past Fourth of July, I was sitting on the grass watching fireworks.
> >> A train went by in the middle of the show. The conductor in the train
> >> was at rest in a different reference frame than mine. Do you really
> >> think he could not see the events of each firework exploding that I
> >> could see, just because we were in different frames?
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>> The observer at the frame of the event can use the LT to transform the time of simultaneity
> >>>>> between two events in his frame to an outside observer.
> >>>>
> >>>> And do the LT as I showed you to show how that changes.
> >>>>
> >>>>> In any case RoS has no effect on any properties of any frame....it is used to cancel out all
> >>>>> the paradoxes derived from the P2.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> An outside observer cannot determine the simultaneity of two events in different frames.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2. SR says that the speed of light is a universal constant in all frames. This gives rise
> >>>>>>> to all sorts of paradoxes such as the twin paradox; the barn/pole paradox; the bug/rivet
> >>>>>>> paradox....etc.  Einstein invented RoS to eliminate these paradoxes by introducing the
> >>>>>>> bogus concept of RoS. How? RoS says that the closing speed of light (the same as the
> >>>>>>> speed of light) in the frame of the events is variable....this assertion cancels out the
> >>>>>>> constant light speed postulate in all frames and in turn cancels out all the paradoxes
> >>>>>>> derived from it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Fabricated history. First of all, relativity of simultaneity was
> >>>>>> published in 1905, years BEFORE the first "paradox" was invented. So it
> >>>>>> would be a neat trick for Einstein to read the future, learn about
> >>>>>> "paradoxes" that would be invented years later, and then invent
> >>>>>> relativity of simultaneity BEFOREHAND to explain them away when they
> >>>>>> appeared later.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's irrelevant....Einstein realized that his P2 have problems so he introduced the RoS to
> >>>>> eliminate these problems.
> >>>>
> >>>> INVENTING HISTORY now includes reading the mind of a dead man. Well
> >>>> done, Ken.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Secondly, closing speed is NOT the same as speed of light. Your
> >>>>>> assertion is not an argument.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is no such thing as closing speed between light and any object.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bullshit. Assertion is not an argument.
> >>>>
> >>>>> That's why closing speed
> >>>>> is not measurable....it is an invention to counter the P2.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bullshit. Closing speed was a concept BEFORE relativity.
> >>>> Inventing history again.
> >>>
> >>> Idiot....closing speed between light and any object is isotropic.
> >>
> >> Bullshit, Ken. Simply not true.
> >>
> >>> ....closing speed between two material objects is variable.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 3. In  real life RoS has no effect on the passage of time, length of the events, or any other
> >>>>>>> physical properties of the events.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Data says otherwise. Your assertion is not an argument.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No data says otherwise.....assertion is not an argument.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bullshit. Denial of existing data in literature is not a valid argument.
> >>>
> >>> I can be convinced if you show me data that shows different closing speeds between light
> >>> and any object. If not then you are full of shit.
> >>
> >> Ken, you always assume you're right until someone spoonfeeds you
> >> information. And even then you don't believe it.
> >
> > ROTFLOL....you can't show me any data so you tried to bullshit your way out.
> 
> Ken, I'm happy to tell you a book to find the data in, but you're too 
> fucking lazy to get out of the house.

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#387841

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-15 15:45 -0500
Message-ID<nmbi1e$d9q$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#387837
On 7/15/2016 3:27 PM, kenseto wrote:
>> So any observers in any two different frames can observe the same
>> > events, as long as both observers are close.
> But you and the guy on the moon are 1/4 million miles apart.....is that close?
>> >

Ken, no experimenter in his right mind would test the simultaneity of 
events by using observers that are 1/4 million miles apart. Why would 
anybody do that? Why would anybody NEED to do that?

You show it right here on earth. Two observers in different frames, but 
CLOSE to each other, looking at the same pair of events. THAT'S how you 
do the measurement.

-- 
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