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| Started by | HGW <HGW@....> |
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| First post | 2016-04-28 02:22 +1000 |
| Last post | 2016-05-18 11:01 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 347 — 25 participants |
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Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 02:22 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Cully When <cullywhen@invalid.net> - 2016-04-27 16:46 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 17:15 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 10:34 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:43 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:17 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-28 07:56 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 20:26 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 19:39 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 04:55 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 23:55 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:05 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:34 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 23:45 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 07:01 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-28 14:03 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 10:20 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 15:40 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 14:39 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:06 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 11:56 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-29 20:37 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-30 10:20 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-30 05:28 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-30 08:59 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 02:46 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-30 10:53 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 07:51 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 05:49 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 03:35 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 14:17 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 07:58 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 21:29 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-01 10:30 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 03:45 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-01 12:19 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:12 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 09:54 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-02 19:23 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 03:11 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-03 03:47 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:32 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:41 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:00 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-11 11:20 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 06:33 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-12 08:33 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 05:27 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-14 09:13 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 09:23 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-14 09:43 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 13:57 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-14 15:32 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 23:24 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-15 08:39 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 15:31 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 21:04 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-16 06:39 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 17:52 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-15 09:41 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-15 20:46 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-16 06:30 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 17:44 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-17 01:59 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 02:19 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 18:04 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 22:52 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 02:53 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-18 09:26 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-18 10:47 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-17 08:51 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 17:59 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-18 09:22 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-18 18:09 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-18 19:47 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 06:41 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 11:04 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 11:25 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-19 13:01 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 22:18 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 23:31 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 03:03 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-20 08:49 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 20:11 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 22:04 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-21 11:31 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 13:52 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-21 14:48 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 15:24 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-21 16:05 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 19:45 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-22 09:05 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 11:09 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-22 11:54 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-24 06:31 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 03:54 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 09:40 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 22:45 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-24 06:41 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 17:30 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-24 19:52 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 03:58 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-25 09:25 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 20:23 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 10:46 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 19:39 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-26 06:44 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 19:43 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-25 14:14 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-27 12:03 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 04:47 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-30 13:40 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 04:48 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 05:13 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-31 08:08 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-31 08:24 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 00:33 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-01 15:48 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 19:04 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 19:19 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-02 10:00 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 20:55 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-03 09:51 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 20:53 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-04 10:00 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 15:48 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-04 16:33 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 17:48 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-04 20:06 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 05:06 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 08:11 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 22:17 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-05 13:38 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 14:37 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-05 16:33 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 20:30 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 02:15 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-06 08:59 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 17:35 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-07 07:25 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 05:04 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 05:32 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 07:55 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-08 09:48 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 21:10 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-09 10:10 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 14:58 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 18:03 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-09 16:47 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 11:31 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 04:20 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-10 11:05 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 11:45 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-10 16:27 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 18:24 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-11 09:46 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 06:15 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-11 09:42 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 14:59 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 21:05 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 04:09 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-12 13:20 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 09:21 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 10:13 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-12 20:16 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 12:58 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 14:12 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 15:00 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 15:14 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 15:35 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 16:50 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 17:12 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 17:31 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 22:30 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-12 23:24 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 04:33 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-13 06:02 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 01:47 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again tomyee3@gmail.com - 2016-06-14 04:22 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 04:49 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 04:52 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 04:53 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-14 05:32 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 06:10 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 06:38 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 09:45 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-14 19:13 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 12:01 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-14 21:34 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-14 08:38 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 09:49 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 10:20 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 11:36 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 13:17 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 16:16 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 17:32 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 04:39 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-16 10:55 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 21:10 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-17 10:34 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 03:45 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 14:31 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-18 10:48 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 04:33 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 11:11 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 12:54 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 14:44 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 15:20 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 16:58 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 18:05 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 18:28 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 20:57 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-20 11:32 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 14:48 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 23:29 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 10:35 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 11:29 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-15 23:25 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 00:15 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-16 00:59 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 05:34 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-13 15:59 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again tomyee3@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 21:53 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-11 09:57 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 15:03 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 10:06 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 20:37 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 11:25 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 20:39 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:19 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 22:25 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 16:25 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 20:23 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 23:38 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-09 17:47 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-10 18:40 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-02 10:24 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-06-01 06:38 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 21:35 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-01 00:57 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-17 08:46 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-17 17:48 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:52 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:14 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-30 16:00 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 11:27 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 12:19 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 14:44 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 09:11 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:11 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:14 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 03:55 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-03 13:35 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 15:43 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:38 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 04:06 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 10:16 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:06 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:14 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 10:19 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-02 10:28 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-02 09:36 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:20 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-05 13:27 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 16:45 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:50 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 22:05 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 09:31 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-08 06:41 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 14:03 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 03:42 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-08 12:17 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 12:23 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 19:44 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-09 05:21 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 08:00 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-07 15:42 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 08:05 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-09 15:02 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 11:23 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 09:45 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-10 09:10 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-10 09:20 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-11 07:00 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 15:16 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:25 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:56 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:19 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:51 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:47 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:14 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:15 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 20:01 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 02:14 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 02:50 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 17:13 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 19:48 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 06:53 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-30 10:11 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 06:41 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 02:16 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:43 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-01 21:52 +0000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-30 21:12 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:11 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-05-01 09:54 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:57 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 05:33 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:39 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:49 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:56 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:02 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:01 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:03 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:46 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 23:58 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-17 02:47 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-01 17:35 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:59 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:56 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:08 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:19 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:26 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 03:20 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:09 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:33 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:56 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 22:55 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:54 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 19:17 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:08 -0500
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:21 +0200
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:28 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 19:51 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 05:04 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:20 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-04-28 17:30 -0400
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 14:44 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-03 07:05 +1000
Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-04 18:26 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 18:43 -0700
Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 20:17 -0700
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Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-13 07:38 -0700
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-14 05:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <66d7c9e6-575b-4b87-8038-6c468fcefd83@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385846 |
W dniu wtorek, 14 czerwca 2016 13:53:32 UTC+2 użytkownik Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog napisał: > On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 6:49:33 AM UTC-5, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > > W dniu wtorek, 14 czerwca 2016 13:22:18 UTC+2 użytkownik tom...@gmail.com napisał: > > > > > > > I can see your claims are different. > > > > > And my claim is: maybe your model is not > > > > > newtonian, but it isn't relativistic too. > > > > > You're using euclidean geometry rejected > > > > > by your guru. Or aren't you? > > > > > > > > Take a look at - what you did. > > > > You've done a model of 3-dimensional euclidean > > > > space with time - clearly separated from 3 > > > > spatial dimensions and common for all objects > > > > involved. > > > > Am I wrong? > > > > It has really little in common with the insane > > > > mumble of your moronic gurus. And that's why > > > > it works. > > > > > > The point is that I have confirmed the calculations that say > > > that a purely Newtonian calculation *does not work!* > > > > One point is, that purely Newtonian calculation *does not work!*. > > And another point is, that The Shit *does not work!* either. > > The models you're using for real, even if not newtonian, still > > have 3 euclidean dimensions and absolute time. > > That is why GR is necessary. Is it? Really? So, how many of these necessary local time variables have you declared? And why is your space euclidean? Why do you use this obsolete "space+time" concept at all? Instead ingenious "spacetime" of your idiot guru? And, BTW. How are you going to simulate anything without a time common for all objects in your simulation?
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| From | alsor@interia.pl |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 15:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8407e33e-ad7d-4877-ac5d-19017c6d5eac@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385771 |
W dniu poniedziałek, 13 czerwca 2016 07:30:14 UTC+2 użytkownik Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog > | 3/4 m + 225/32 m^2 = 0.09544 > | and the interested precession for one orbit is just: > | 360 degs * n' * 0.09544 = 2.57 degs > | So, it's quite good result... the real is 3 degs. > > *** ONE SIGNIFICANT FIGURE IS "QUITE GOOD"??? *** This approximation is poor due to the: m is big ~1/13. er = (3 - 2.57) / 3 = 14% The third term is need... which is something like: 1700/256 m^3... But for the Mercury-Sun + Jupiter: m = 1/50, thus now the approx is much better. :) Without any doubt the precession is more than the first term alone: 3/4 m, gives 152''/ cy already, and we know this is just the first order approximation only! So, the full pecession must be bigger, probably: ~180'' 180 - 152 = 18 = ~16'' - the same value which is in the Le Verier data, after elimination the 2 wrong points in the data! And I think the anomalistic precession is just 16''/cy, no any improvised 43'' - this number has been never observed... it's artifical result of GR model, which is a naive numerology only, not any mechanics/physcis. BTW. The result 16''/cy is consistent with the Weber force, then it's possible this is the key... The gravity and the electric forces are the same in fact: k/r^2; so, there is no rational reason to generate triple precession in gravity... it would be mathematicaly inconsistent.
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| From | tomyee3@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-13 21:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <aa22c4c9-ae69-4e67-8205-830eebbfb049@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385821 |
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 5:59:02 PM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > W dniu poniedziałek, 13 czerwca 2016 07:30:14 UTC+2 użytkownik Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog > > > | 3/4 m + 225/32 m^2 = 0.09544 > > | and the interested precession for one orbit is just: > > | 360 degs * n' * 0.09544 = 2.57 degs > > | So, it's quite good result... the real is 3 degs. > > > > *** ONE SIGNIFICANT FIGURE IS "QUITE GOOD"??? *** > > This approximation is poor due to the: m is big ~1/13. > > er = (3 - 2.57) / 3 = 14% > > The third term is need... which is something like: 1700/256 m^3... > > But for the Mercury-Sun + Jupiter: m = 1/50, > thus now the approx is much better. :) > > > Without any doubt the precession is more than > the first term alone: 3/4 m, > gives 152''/ cy already, > and we know this is just the first order approximation only! > > So, the full pecession must be bigger, probably: ~180'' > > 180 - 152 = 18 = ~16'' - the same value which is in the Le Verier data, > after elimination the 2 wrong points in the data! Nope. Inoue discarded 14 out of 21 transit observations and nearly 400 meridian observations. > And I think the anomalistic precession is just 16''/cy, > no any improvised 43'' - this number has been never observed... > it's artifical result of GR model, which is a naive numerology only, > not any mechanics/physcis. > > > BTW. > The result 16''/cy is consistent with the Weber force, > then it's possible this is the key... > > > The gravity and the electric forces are the same in fact: k/r^2; > so, there is no rational reason to generate triple precession in gravity... > it would be mathematicaly inconsistent. You do not have a coherent theory. You have only numerology.
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| From | alsor@interia.pl |
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| Date | 2016-06-11 09:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3a7908a6-db58-4875-b504-fce987e48e5e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385654 |
You have problem with 6-order RK?
Use 8-order simpletic integrator!
My version is extremely simple and fast:
void symplectic8()
{
const double W1 = -0.161582374150097E1;
const double W2 = -0.244699182370524E1;
const double W3 = -0.716989419708120E-2;
const double W4 = 0.244002732616735E1;
const double W5 = 0.157739928123617E0;
const double W6 = 0.182020630970714E1;
const double W7 = 0.104242620869991E1;
const double W0 = (1-2*(W1+W2+W3+W4+W5+W6+W7));
const static double d8[15] = { W7, W6, W5, W4, W3, W2, W1, W0, W1, W2, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7 };
const static double c8[16] = { W7/2, (W7+W6)/2, (W6+W5)/2, (W5+W4)/2,
(W4+W3)/2, (W3+W2)/2, (W2+W1)/2, (W1+W0)/2,
(W1+W0)/2, (W2+W1)/2, (W3+W2)/2, (W4+W3)/2,
(W5+W4)/2, (W6+W5)/2, (W7+W6)/2, W7/2 };
for(int i = 0; i < 16; i++)
{
h = dt * c8[i];
for(int j = 0; j < nB; j++)
y[j].r.addm(y[j].v, h);
if( i != 15 )
{
force(a, y, nB);
h = dt * d8[i];
for(int j = 0; j < nB; j++)
y[j].v.addm(a[j], h);
}
}
}
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| From | Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-11 15:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <840dcca6-b552-4823-a9da-c507fe23d130@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385666 |
On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 11:57:03 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote:
> You have problem with 6-order RK?
>
> Use 8-order simpletic integrator!
>
> My version is extremely simple and fast:
>
> void symplectic8()
> {
> const double W1 = -0.161582374150097E1;
> const double W2 = -0.244699182370524E1;
> const double W3 = -0.716989419708120E-2;
> const double W4 = 0.244002732616735E1;
> const double W5 = 0.157739928123617E0;
> const double W6 = 0.182020630970714E1;
> const double W7 = 0.104242620869991E1;
> const double W0 = (1-2*(W1+W2+W3+W4+W5+W6+W7));
> const static double d8[15] = { W7, W6, W5, W4, W3, W2, W1, W0, W1, W2, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7 };
> const static double c8[16] = { W7/2, (W7+W6)/2, (W6+W5)/2, (W5+W4)/2,
> (W4+W3)/2, (W3+W2)/2, (W2+W1)/2, (W1+W0)/2,
> (W1+W0)/2, (W2+W1)/2, (W3+W2)/2, (W4+W3)/2,
> (W5+W4)/2, (W6+W5)/2, (W7+W6)/2, W7/2 };
>
> for(int i = 0; i < 16; i++)
> {
> h = dt * c8[i];
>
> for(int j = 0; j < nB; j++)
> y[j].r.addm(y[j].v, h);
>
>
> if( i != 15 )
> {
> force(a, y, nB);
> h = dt * d8[i];
> for(int j = 0; j < nB; j++)
> y[j].v.addm(a[j], h);
> }
> }
> }
Put the code snippet into context. Provide a working program that does
something useful.
To date, I have been the only person providing actual simulation results.
You have provided nothing except an occasional hand computation good to one or
at best two significant figures.
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| From | alsor@interia.pl |
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| Date | 2016-06-12 10:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <eb2d4b76-407f-48a8-8dcd-37693919bd64@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385696 |
W dniu niedziela, 12 czerwca 2016 00:03:08 UTC+2 użytkownik Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog napisał:
> On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 11:57:03 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote:
> > You have problem with 6-order RK?
> >
> > Use 8-order simpletic integrator!
> >
> > My version is extremely simple and fast:
> >
> > void symplectic8()
> > {
> > const double W1 = -0.161582374150097E1;
> > const double W2 = -0.244699182370524E1;
> > const double W3 = -0.716989419708120E-2;
> > const double W4 = 0.244002732616735E1;
> > const double W5 = 0.157739928123617E0;
> > const double W6 = 0.182020630970714E1;
> > const double W7 = 0.104242620869991E1;
> > const double W0 = (1-2*(W1+W2+W3+W4+W5+W6+W7));
> > const static double d8[15] = { W7, W6, W5, W4, W3, W2, W1, W0, W1, W2, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7 };
> > const static double c8[16] = { W7/2, (W7+W6)/2, (W6+W5)/2, (W5+W4)/2,
> > (W4+W3)/2, (W3+W2)/2, (W2+W1)/2, (W1+W0)/2,
> > (W1+W0)/2, (W2+W1)/2, (W3+W2)/2, (W4+W3)/2,
> > (W5+W4)/2, (W6+W5)/2, (W7+W6)/2, W7/2 };
> >
> > for(int i = 0; i < 16; i++)
> > {
> > h = dt * c8[i];
> >
> > for(int j = 0; j < nB; j++)
> > y[j].r.addm(y[j].v, h);
> >
> >
> > if( i != 15 )
> > {
> > force(a, y, nB);
> > h = dt * d8[i];
> > for(int j = 0; j < nB; j++)
> > y[j].v.addm(a[j], h);
> > }
> > }
> > }
>
> Put the code snippet into context. Provide a working program that does
> something useful.
The code is simple for any programmer...
'force' computes the forces/accel,
using actual data: y = (r,v) for n-bodies,
and stores them in the: a - an array of n-accelerations.
r,v,a, are 3D vectors, ie.:
struct TP3d
{
double x,y,z;
TP3d& set(double a, double b, double c) { x=a; y=b; z=c; return *this; }
void add(const TP3d &r) { x += r.x; y += r.y; z += r.z; }
void sub(const TP3d &r) { x -= r.x; y -= r.y; z -= r.z; }
void sub(const TP3d &a, const TP3d &b) { x = a.x-b.x; y = a.y-b.y; z = a.z-b.z; }
void mul(double m) { x *= m; y *= m; z *= m; }
void addm(const TP3d &r, double m) { x += r.x*m; y += r.y*m; z += r.z*m; }
void subm(const TP3d &r, double m) { x -= r.x*m; y -= r.y*m; z -= r.z*m; }
void setm(const TP3d &r, double m) { x = r.x*m; y = r.y*m; z = r.z*m; }
double len() { return sqrt(x*x+y*y+z*z); }
double norm() { return x*x+y*y+z*z; }
void unit();
double operator*(const TP3d &b) { return x*b.x + y*b.y + z*b.z; }
TP3d& operator+=(const TP3d &b) { add(b); return *this; }
};
so, the addm is simply:
void addm(const TP3d &r, double m)
{ x += r.x*m; y += r.y*m; z += r.z*m; }
It's possible to use explicite version, like this:
a += b*m;
where the += operator must be defined:
inline TP3d operator+(const TP3d a, const TP3d b)
{ return TP3d(a.x+b.x, a.y+b.y, a.z+b.z); }
and the multiply: * operator:
inline TP3d operator*(const TP3d a, double m)
{ return TP3d(a.x*m, a.y*m, a.z*m); }
...
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| From | "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-10 20:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <96cf496b-b5a5-4c22-a1f6-92cc3e0c3851@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385577 |
On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 4:20:35 AM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:10:22 PM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > > W dniu czwartek, 9 czerwca 2016 06:10:40 UTC+2 uzytkownik Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog: > > > > > Oh sure. You don't trust my results obtained using RK4 and 64 bit arithmetic, > > > even though the results are FULLY SUBSTANTIATED by RK6 and 128 bit runs. You > > > are truly pathetic in your utter resistance to the truth. > > > > You can use even a milion bits, but the result can be still wrong... > > due to the so-called 'precission degradation', > > in the floating point operations. > > There is also the non-zero chance that all of the air molecules in the room, as > a result of pure random chance, will depart from where you are sitting leaving > you to suffocate. GET REAL. > > THERE IS NO SIGN OF INSTABILITY IN THE RESULTS THAT I HAVE CALCULATED > THAT WOULD BE INDICATIVE OF THE EFFECTS OF CATASTROPHIC CANCELLATION > > You are grasping at straws and making yourself look utterly ridiculous. > > Decreasing stepsizes, varying integration methods, and comparison of double and > quadruple precisions all converge on 156.877"/cy for the ring approximation and > 153.639"/cy for the three body contribution of Jupiter to Mercury's precession > in the planar model that I am using. > > > Btw. There is no 64-bits arithmetic in the dobules, but 53 only. > > single float has 24 bits. > > I have some new results for the contribution of Jupiter to the precession > of Mercury: > Stepsize Rng RK6 3Bd RK6 | Rng RK4 3Bd RK4 | Rng RK6 QP 3Bd RK6 QP | > 28800 156.847 153.635 | 173.645 170.454 | 156.846878 153.635228 | > 14400 156.867 153.686 | 157.920 154.739 | 156.866572 153.686414 | > 7200 156.875 153.637 | 156.940 153.703 | 156.874563 153.637335 | > 3600 156.877 153.639 | 156.881 153.643 | 156.876631 153.638909 | > 1800 156.877 153.639 | 156.877 153.639 | 156.877086 153.639127 | > 800 156.877 153.639 | 156.877 153.639 | 156.877167 153.639089 | > 400 156.877 153.639 | 156.877 153.639 | > 200 156.877 153.639 | 156.877 153.639 | > 100 156.877 153.639 | 156.877 153.639 | > > > > OK. Look at the far right columns. At one hour per shortest time step so far, > > > that's about 2112 time steps per orbit. The machine epsilon for quadruple > > > precision arithmetic is about 2e-34. > > > > These results are evidently wrong, because > > the ring model produces less precession than the real one - > > look at the Moon case: ring -? 1.5 vs 3 - real ! > > Your repeated attempts to denigrate and belittle everyone else on these > groups makes others consider you to be ignorant and petty. Which you are... > > Here, you are comparing "apples and oranges." In the case of the Earth-Moon > system, the perturbing influence of the Sun is so great that the ring > approximation is completely wrong. In the case of Mercury, the relative > gravitational attraction of the outer planets is far smaller than that of > the Sun. The fact that, in the Earth-Moon-Sun system, the ring model predicts > less precession than the observed amount, says nothing about what happens > in the Sun-Mercury-Jupiter case. > > > So, it's something wrong in your computitions. > > As I've stated before and will say again, you are perfectly free to implement > your own modeling program. It will be good for us to be able to check against > each other. Your reliance on handwaving GUESSES sets you up for failure. > > > Btw. the official precession due to the Jupiter is: 152''/cy; :) > > So I am within about 1%. Not bad for a simplified planar model. > > > The result for the ring model is analiticaly solvable, > > then you should use this... instead of improvising. > > I am perfectly well aware that an analytical solution exists for a > *** UNIFORM CIRCULAR RING IN THE SAME PLANE AS THE TEST PLANET. *** > For example, Mathpages has several pages on the subject. > http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath402/kmath402.htm > http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath280/kmath280.htm > > However, more advanced variants of the ring model used non-circular rings with > masses non-uniformly distributed along their circumference so as to account for > the varying speed of the planets in their orbit, rings that ddid not lie in the > same plane as the planet, etc. > > Exact solutions for these more advanced cases became intractable if they > existed at all. > > > > QPFloat quadruple precision arithmetic is about 300 times slower than double > > > precision arithmetic. I'm currently looking at some other quadruple precision > > > libraries hoping to find something a bit faster. > > > > use double-double library... it's the fastest quadruple soft. > > I have ***gradually*** been evaluating a variety of extended precision libraries. > Some can be compiled with Visual Studio on Windows. Others require g++ on Linux. > http://crd-legacy.lbl.gov/~dhbailey/mpdist/ > http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/884606/The-double-double-type > https://boutell.com/fracster-src/doubledouble/doubledouble.html > http://www.nongnu.org/hpalib/ > http://www.netlib.org/cephes/ > http://mrob.com/pub/math/f161.html > > ...and so on and so forth... > > I have only gone *partway* through the above list. However, some preliminary > results: > * Some of the libraries HAVE NOT BEEN THOROUGHLY TESTED!!! > * Double-double arithmetic seems to be about 15 times faster than QPFloat. > * The advanced math functions of the libraries that I have tested are of > varying accuracy. > * QPFloat attempts to provide arithmetic that fully complies with IEEE standards. > * Double-double arithmetic does not, and the whole concept of machine epsilon > does not really apply. > > *** SPEED IS NOT THE ONLY CRITERION ON WHICH TO CHOOSE A LIBRARY *** > > The Atan() function, for instance, is generally computed by Newton-Raphson. > You would think that the various extended precision packages should all agree > to within the last one or two significant figures, but unfortunately that is not > the case. If two packages disagree, which is telling the truth? I'm currently > in the process of working that one out. :-) > > One of the libraries (I have notified the author) has a small bit of a > catastrophic cancellation issue with hyperbolic functions. No answer yet > to my email. > > One of the libraries (I have notified the author) "went crazy" for certain > specific trig calculations, giving Sin(x) and Cos(x) that was greater than 1. > The author says that he fixed the issue, and I will re-evaluate. > > Windows Calculator has been an extremely important tool in my testing, since > it computes in quadruple arithmetic and has been around for many years, so > presumably has had most of its bugs worked out. It currently has copy-paste > functionality, which means that I can code unit tests without fear of > committing typographical errors. > > > And finally: it's now evident you dont know > > how the astronomers mesure the planetary precession at all. > > > > apse precession = observed node + arg of peri; save this. > > It is evident that you are desperately trying to preserve some small degree of > self-respect by diminishing other's accomplishments. That is being VERY petty. > Save this. I seem to recall Pertti Lounesto's Clifford Calculator "CLICAL" has various planets' ephemeris in the provided samples. https://users.aalto.fi/~ppuska/mirror/Lounesto/CLICAL.htm The geometric algebra representation naturally lends itself to the incorporation of relativistic effects, cf Baylis, Hestenes.
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-08 11:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <924bb94e-dc0f-40d9-b231-fa1c06ecccea@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385338 |
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 5:04:38 AM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: [...] > > As I have repeatedly stated, > > *** YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT ERROR ANALYSIS *** > > Now shut up and learn something. This will never happen because it's not at all about facts with those guys, it's about getting an emotional fix or releasing an urge, like in Tourette's. -- Jan
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-08 20:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nj9oqa$i9u$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #385401 |
Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:924bb94e-dc0f-40d9-b231-fa1c06ecccea@googlegroups.com... On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 5:04:38 AM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: [...] > > As I have repeatedly stated, > > *** YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT ERROR ANALYSIS > *** > > Now shut up and learn something. |This will never happen because it's not at all about facts with those guys, |it's about getting an emotional fix or releasing an urge, like in Tourette's. gobbledygook.
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-08 13:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2b4eab31-d893-42b5-9857-eff39cfc02fe@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385404 |
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:924bb94e-dc0f-40d9-b231-fa1c06ecccea@googlegroups.com... > > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 5:04:38 AM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog > wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > [...] > > > > As I have repeatedly stated, > > > > *** YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT ERROR ANALYSIS > > *** > > > > Now shut up and learn something. > > |This will never happen because it's not at all about facts with those guys, > |it's about getting an emotional fix or releasing an urge, like in > Tourette's. > > gobbledygook. Again, Maciej is copying me. -- Jan
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-08 22:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nj9v0q$uo4$1@node1.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #385425 |
Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:2b4eab31-d893-42b5-9857-eff39cfc02fe@googlegroups.com... On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:924bb94e-dc0f-40d9-b231-fa1c06ecccea@googlegroups.com... > > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 5:04:38 AM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase > Homolog > wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > [...] > > > > As I have repeatedly stated, > > > > *** YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT ERROR ANALYSIS > > *** > > > > Now shut up and learn something. > > |This will never happen because it's not at all about facts with those > guys, > |it's about getting an emotional fix or releasing an urge, like in > Tourette's. > > gobbledygook. |Again, Maciej is copying me. Again, I'm descending to your level.
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-08 16:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ce87c3b4-b045-41a5-b321-b193a6a64176@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385432 |
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 1:26:04 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:2b4eab31-d893-42b5-9857-eff39cfc02fe@googlegroups.com... > > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:924bb94e-dc0f-40d9-b231-fa1c06ecccea@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 5:04:38 AM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase > > Homolog > > wrote: > > > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > As I have repeatedly stated, > > > > > > *** YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT ERROR ANALYSIS > > > *** > > > > > > Now shut up and learn something. > > > > |This will never happen because it's not at all about facts with those > > guys, > > |it's about getting an emotional fix or releasing an urge, like in > > Tourette's. > > > > gobbledygook. > > |Again, Maciej is copying me. > > Again, I'm descending to your level. Descend all you want. -- Jan
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| From | Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-08 20:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8009f79d-5f00-44e0-b441-b842d9cb3236@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385401 |
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 1:25:44 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote: > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 5:04:38 AM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > [...] > > > > As I have repeatedly stated, > > > > *** YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT ERROR ANALYSIS *** > > > > Now shut up and learn something. > > This will never happen because it's not at all about facts with those guys, > it's about getting an emotional fix or releasing an urge, like in Tourette's. I don't expect to be able to convince Alsor of anything. Alsor is crackpot, pure and simple. It's quite amazing to see the defensive mechanisms that he has in place that prevent him from seeing himself as he truly is: a hopeless fool. What is important is that I am having a lot of fun doing this math work on the computer, and I'm also learning quite a bit of astronomy history that I never knew before. That combines two of my favorite subjects. It's a lot more interesting and challenging than creating websites. :-)
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-08 23:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bc89278c-e785-4eee-ad95-566dbb8aac51@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385461 |
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 8:23:42 PM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 1:25:44 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 5:04:38 AM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > > > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > As I have repeatedly stated, > > > > > > *** YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT ERROR ANALYSIS *** > > > > > > Now shut up and learn something. > > > > This will never happen because it's not at all about facts with those guys, > > it's about getting an emotional fix or releasing an urge, like in Tourette's. > > I don't expect to be able to convince Alsor of anything. Alsor is crackpot, pure > and simple. It's quite amazing to see the defensive mechanisms that he has in > place that prevent him from seeing himself as he truly is: a hopeless fool. > > What is important is that I am having a lot of fun doing this math work on the > computer, and I'm also learning quite a bit of astronomy history that I never > knew before. That combines two of my favorite subjects. > > It's a lot more interesting and challenging than creating websites. :-) My experiences are similar and I find your posts VERY interesting. -- Jan
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-06-09 17:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <njca41$t1r$6@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #385475 |
JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> writes: >On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 8:23:42 PM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: >> What is important is that I am having a lot of fun doing this math work on the >> computer, and I'm also learning quite a bit of astronomy history that I never >> knew before. That combines two of my favorite subjects. >> >> It's a lot more interesting and challenging than creating websites. :-) >My experiences are similar and I find your posts VERY interesting. Yes, those posts have been very interesting.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-10 18:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bff4067f-7b2c-48e3-8d25-fac044d032ff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #385461 |
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 10:23:42 PM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 1:25:44 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 5:04:38 AM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > > > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > As I have repeatedly stated, > > > > > > *** YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT ERROR ANALYSIS *** > > > > > > Now shut up and learn something. > > > > This will never happen because it's not at all about facts with those guys, > > it's about getting an emotional fix or releasing an urge, like in Tourette's. > > I don't expect to be able to convince Alsor of anything. Alsor is crackpot, pure > and simple. It's quite amazing to see the defensive mechanisms that he has in > place that prevent him from seeing himself as he truly is: a hopeless fool. > > What is important is that I am having a lot of fun doing this math work on the > computer, and I'm also learning quite a bit of astronomy history that I never > knew before. That combines two of my favorite subjects. > > It's a lot more interesting and challenging than creating websites. :-) Just eliminate SOL and treat all the arithmetic and geometry as if there was no time attached. We would, at once, start to see the solar ecliptic bend.
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| From | alsor@interia.pl |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-02 10:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <adfd0798-5b3b-4ae3-abde-b0489c19b4d4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #384817 |
W dniu czwartek, 2 czerwca 2016 04:19:52 UTC+2 użytkownik Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog napisał:
> > You dont know even what is the energy, momentum, mass center position errors.
> >
> > and more:
> > you dont ever mentioned how you disovered the precession,
> > which is so tiny, using step size many times bigger!
> >
> > 43''/cy = 0.1''/orbit = 1/12.96mln of the full 360 degs;
> >
> > Mercury makes this angle 0.1'' in time:
> > 88 days / 13 mln < 0.6s;
> >
> > So, it's evident you didnt calculate these all numbers...
> > you use some idiotic package, made by a student,
> > or maybe by Le Verrier himself. :)
>
> I do parabolic curve fits to interpolate the position of perihelion given
> my widely spaced points. Ever heard of interpolation?
>
> I know, I know. Current generation of kids don't know a time before calculators,
> when you had to look up your trig functions by table lookup, using interpolation
> to get values between the tabulated points.
>
> if (currentRadius > lastRadius && rNotIncreasing) // perihelion is in this range
> {
> double pX, pY; // perihelion X, perihelion Y
> double rA, rB, rC, A, B, C;
> rNotIncreasing = false;
>
> // Find the value of y corresponding to the minimum radius, that is, pY
> Util.CalcParabola(lastLastY, lastLastRadius, lastY, lastRadius, mY, currentRadius,
> out rA, out rB, out rC);
> pY = -rB / (2 * rA);
>
> // Find the value of mercury.x corresponding to pY
> Util.CalcParabola(lastLastY, lastLastX, lastY, lastX, mY, mX,
> out A, out B, out C);
> pX = A * pY * pY + B * pY + C;
>
> // using Atan instead of Atan2 because of issues with QPFloat implementation
> pDirection = Math.Atan(pY / pX); // pX will never be zero in this computation
> rawPrecession = pDirection;
>
> precession = 3600 * 180 * rawPrecession / Math.PI; // convert radians to seconds of arc
>
> pValues.Add(precession);
>
> parms.g.DrawLine(pen, gX(orbitCount, X0), gY(mult * lastPrecession, Y0),
> gX(orbitCount + 1, X0), gY(mult * precession, Y0));
>
> orbitCount++;
> lastPrecession = precession;
>
> form.Invoke((MethodInvoker)(() => form.Invalidate()));
additional show the error of the angular momentum in the simulation.
L = m v x r
You must sum this: L = sum Li = sum mi vi x ri;
error = L0-Ln/L0 = 1 - Ln/L0,
where Lo is the momentum at start of simulation: a time t = 0;
Ln = the momentum at a final step n;
n*h = 100 or 1000 years.
similarily for energy: E = Ek - EP = ...
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| From | "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2016-06-01 06:38 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <niksmb$1r5i$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #384642 |
On 31/05/16 22:13, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 3:40:28 PM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > I have implemented quadruple precision using QPFloat > https://sourceforge.net/p/qpfloat/home/Home/ > https://github.com/coder0xff/QPFloat > > Step sizes of 200 seconds and 100 seconds gave essentially identical results, > so I have adopted 100 second step sizes for the simulations below: > > Le Verrier MathPages Ring 3-Body > Jupiter 152.6 161.6 156 153 http://tinyurl.com/j25edex > Saturn 7.2 7.8 7.5 7.4 http://tinyurl.com/h4oqb3e > > Even with Jupiter and Saturn, Gauss' ring approximation works remarkably well, > even better than in my previous simulations, since I've finally nailed down the > reason for the uncomfortably wide swings in angle of apsides that I was getting. > > The take home lesson is that when I finish with the three body simulations to > quantify the Newtonian contributions of all of the planets to Mercury's > precession, there will be a leftover unexplained amount whose magnitude will > be close to the anomalous precession predicted by General Relativity. What you have done is demonstrate how easy it is to concoct 'evidence' in favour of Einstein's silly theory. > What other pathetic excuses do you have up your sleeve? None of the predictions > of *your* so-called "theory" stand up to scrutiny. >
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-05-31 21:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <088f455f-2ec1-4766-9650-ee3269f1a2aa@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #384694 |
On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 3:37:36 PM UTC-5, HGWilson, DSc. wrote: > On 31/05/16 22:13, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > > On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 3:40:28 PM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote: > > > I have implemented quadruple precision using QPFloat > > https://sourceforge.net/p/qpfloat/home/Home/ > > https://github.com/coder0xff/QPFloat > > > > Step sizes of 200 seconds and 100 seconds gave essentially identical results, > > so I have adopted 100 second step sizes for the simulations below: > > > > Le Verrier MathPages Ring 3-Body > > Jupiter 152.6 161.6 156 153 http://tinyurl.com/j25edex > > Saturn 7.2 7.8 7.5 7.4 http://tinyurl.com/h4oqb3e > > > > > Even with Jupiter and Saturn, Gauss' ring approximation works remarkably well, > > even better than in my previous simulations, since I've finally nailed down the > > reason for the uncomfortably wide swings in angle of apsides that I was getting. > > > > The take home lesson is that when I finish with the three body simulations to > > quantify the Newtonian contributions of all of the planets to Mercury's > > precession, there will be a leftover unexplained amount whose magnitude will > > be close to the anomalous precession predicted by General Relativity. > > What you have done is demonstrate how easy it is to concoct 'evidence' > in favour of Einstein's silly theory. > > > What other pathetic excuses do you have up your sleeve? None of the predictions > > of *your* so-called "theory" stand up to scrutiny. > > We don't have to add SOL to the measures of Jupiter's moons or Mercury.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2016-06-01 00:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ea9ae2a-6fc7-4886-96af-43314d49fafd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #384642 |
W dniu wtorek, 31 maja 2016 14:13:17 UTC+2 użytkownik Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog napisał: > precession, there will be a leftover unexplained amount whose magnitude will > be close to the anomalous precession predicted by General Relativity. Predicted, of course, about 70 or more years after it was observed.
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