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  Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-02 10:06 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 10:35 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-02 20:43 +0200
    Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-02 10:48 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 12:23 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-02 13:50 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-04 13:23 -0700
        Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-07 21:05 +0200
          Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-07 12:46 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-07 22:14 +0200
          Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-08 01:28 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-06-08 01:46 -0700
              Einstein–Szilárd letter (was: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-08 21:09 +0200
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-08 12:46 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-08 09:25 -0700
              Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-08 10:19 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-02 23:16 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-04 05:50 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-04 10:49 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 10:58 -0700
        Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-04 14:31 -0500
          Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-04 13:14 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 13:58 -0700

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#384840 — Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner

http://www.techinsider.io/kavli-prize-winners-2016-6 
 "Nine scientists just won an award that's worth more than a Nobel Prize, earning a cool $1 million for their cutting-edge research. Called the Kavli Prize, these lofty awards... [...] The three winners in astrophysics this year were Ronald Drever, Kip Thorne, and Rainer Weiss. The trio won for detecting the ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves — arguably the most remarkable scientific achievement of the year, if not the past 100 years. "This detection has, in a single stroke and for the first time, validated Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity for very strong fields..."

http://news.mit.edu/2016/rainer-weiss-awarded-shaw-prize-astronomy-0601 
 "Weiss will share the $1.2 million prize with Kip Thorne, Caltech’s Richard P. Feynman Professor of Theoretical Physics, emeritus; and Ronald Drever, emeritus professor of physics at Caltech. Together, they are cited by the Shaw Foundation “for conceiving and designing the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), whose recent direct detection of gravitational waves opens a new window..." 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/science/ligo-gravitational-wave-breakthrough-prize-yuri-milner.html 
 "LIGO Gravitational Wave Researchers to Divide $3 Million. The three ringleaders of the gravitational-wave experiment, known as LIGO, Ronald P. Drever and Kip. S. Thorne of the California Institute of Technology, and Rainer Weiss of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, will split $1 million. The other $2 million will be split among 1,012 scientists who were authors of the article in Physical Review Letters, or who made major contributions to the study of gravitational waves." 

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-05/iau-ro2050416.php 
 "In addition to a cash award of $500 000, to be shared equally between Drever, Thorne and Weiss, each of the three will receive a gold medal and a citation that reads: The Gruber Foundation proudly presents the 2016 Cosmology Prize to Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne, Ronald Drever, and the entire LIGO team for pursuing a vision to observe the universe in gravitational waves, leading to a first detection that emanated from the collision of two black holes." 

Now Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne and Ronald Drever are wating for the Nobel prize but hope to be given a few more millions in the meantime: 

http://motls.blogspot.bg/2016/02/ligo-journal-servers-behind-scenes.html 
 " On September 9th, the LIGO folks were already convinced that they would discover the waves soon. Some of them were thinking what they would buy for the Nobel prize and all of them had to make an online vote about the journal where the discovery should be published. It has to be Physical Review Letters because PRL (published by the APS) is the best journal for the Nobel-prize-caliber papers, the LIGO members decided. Five days later, Advanced LIGO made the discovery. Four more days later, as you know, they officially started Advanced LIGO. ;-) " 

Pentcho Valev

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#384845

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> http://www.techinsider.io/kavli-prize-winners-2016-6 
>  "Nine scientists just won an award that's worth more than a Nobel Prize, earning a cool $1 million for their cutting-edge research. Called the Kavli Prize, these lofty awards... [...] The three winners in astrophysics this year were Ronald Drever, Kip Thorne, and Rainer Weiss. The trio won for detecting the ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves — arguably the most remarkable scientific achievement of the year, if not the past 100 years. "This detection has, in a single stroke and for the first time, validated Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity for very strong fields..."
> 
> http://news.mit.edu/2016/rainer-weiss-awarded-shaw-prize-astronomy-0601 
>  "Weiss will share the $1.2 million prize with Kip Thorne, Caltech’s Richard P. Feynman Professor of Theoretical Physics, emeritus; and Ronald Drever, emeritus professor of physics at Caltech. Together, they are cited by the Shaw Foundation “for conceiving and designing the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), whose recent direct detection of gravitational waves opens a new window..." 
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/science/ligo-gravitational-wave-breakthrough-prize-yuri-milner.html 
>  "LIGO Gravitational Wave Researchers to Divide $3 Million. The three ringleaders of the gravitational-wave experiment, known as LIGO, Ronald P. Drever and Kip. S. Thorne of the California Institute of Technology, and Rainer Weiss of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, will split $1 million. The other $2 million will be split among 1,012 scientists who were authors of the article in Physical Review Letters, or who made major contributions to the study of gravitational waves." 
> 
> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-05/iau-ro2050416.php 
>  "In addition to a cash award of $500 000, to be shared equally between Drever, Thorne and Weiss, each of the three will receive a gold medal and a citation that reads: The Gruber Foundation proudly presents the 2016 Cosmology Prize to Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne, Ronald Drever, and the entire LIGO team for pursuing a vision to observe the universe in gravitational waves, leading to a first detection that emanated from the collision of two black holes." 
> 
> Now Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne and Ronald Drever are wating for the Nobel prize but hope to be given a few more millions in the meantime: 
> 
> http://motls.blogspot.bg/2016/02/ligo-journal-servers-behind-scenes.html 
>  " On September 9th, the LIGO folks were already convinced that they would discover the waves soon. Some of them were thinking what they would buy for the Nobel prize and all of them had to make an online vote about the journal where the discovery should be published. It has to be Physical Review Letters because PRL (published by the APS) is the best journal for the Nobel-prize-caliber papers, the LIGO members decided. Five days later, Advanced LIGO made the discovery. Four more days later, as you know, they officially started Advanced LIGO. ;-) " 
> 
> Pentcho Valev

Poor you.

--
Jan

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#384852

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:9fe25915-96ed-4c87-9eed-c2ff9be9e807@googlegroups.com...

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> http://www.techinsider.io/kavli-prize-winners-2016-6
>  "Nine scientists just won an award that's worth more than a Nobel Prize, 
> earning a cool $1 million for their cutting-edge research. Called the 
> Kavli Prize, these lofty awards... [...] The three winners in astrophysics 
> this year were Ronald Drever, Kip Thorne, and Rainer Weiss. The trio won 
> for detecting the ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves — 
> arguably the most remarkable scientific achievement of the year, if not 
> the past 100 years. "This detection has, in a single stroke and for the 
> first time, validated Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity for very 
> strong fields..."
>
> http://news.mit.edu/2016/rainer-weiss-awarded-shaw-prize-astronomy-0601
>  "Weiss will share the $1.2 million prize with Kip Thorne, Caltech’s 
> Richard P. Feynman Professor of Theoretical Physics, emeritus; and Ronald 
> Drever, emeritus professor of physics at Caltech. Together, they are cited 
> by the Shaw Foundation “for conceiving and designing the Laser 
> Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), whose recent direct 
> detection of gravitational waves opens a new window..."
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/science/ligo-gravitational-wave-breakthrough-prize-yuri-milner.html
>  "LIGO Gravitational Wave Researchers to Divide $3 Million. The three 
> ringleaders of the gravitational-wave experiment, known as LIGO, Ronald P. 
> Drever and Kip. S. Thorne of the California Institute of Technology, and 
> Rainer Weiss of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, will split $1 
> million. The other $2 million will be split among 1,012 scientists who 
> were authors of the article in Physical Review Letters, or who made major 
> contributions to the study of gravitational waves."
>
> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-05/iau-ro2050416.php
>  "In addition to a cash award of $500 000, to be shared equally between 
> Drever, Thorne and Weiss, each of the three will receive a gold medal and 
> a citation that reads: The Gruber Foundation proudly presents the 2016 
> Cosmology Prize to Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne, Ronald Drever, and the entire 
> LIGO team for pursuing a vision to observe the universe in gravitational 
> waves, leading to a first detection that emanated from the collision of 
> two black holes."
>
> Now Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne and Ronald Drever are wating for the Nobel 
> prize but hope to be given a few more millions in the meantime:
>
> http://motls.blogspot.bg/2016/02/ligo-journal-servers-behind-scenes.html
>  " On September 9th, the LIGO folks were already convinced that they would 
> discover the waves soon. Some of them were thinking what they would buy 
> for the Nobel prize and all of them had to make an online vote about the 
> journal where the discovery should be published. It has to be Physical 
> Review Letters because PRL (published by the APS) is the best journal for 
> the Nobel-prize-caliber papers, the LIGO members decided. Five days later, 
> Advanced LIGO made the discovery. Four more days later, as you know, they 
> officially started Advanced LIGO. ;-) "
>
> Pentcho Valev

|Poor you.

Gobbledygook.

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#384848

LIGO conspirators are given a lot of money for discovering ripples in spacetime; other Einsteinians are given a lot of money for discovering that spacetime does not exist and should be "retired":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U47kyV4TMnE 
 Nima Arkani-Hamed (06:11): "Almost all of us believe that space-time doesn't really exist, space-time is doomed and has to be replaced by some more primitive building blocks." 

https://edge.org/response-detail/25477 
 What scientific idea is ready for retirement? Steve Giddings: "Spacetime. Physics has always been regarded as playing out on an underlying stage of space and time. Special relativity joined these into spacetime... [...] The apparent need to retire classical spacetime as a fundamental concept is profound..."

https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-185331159.html 
 "That lecture, by the German mathematician Hermann Minkowski, established a new arena for the presentation of physics, a new vision of the nature of reality redefining the mathematics of existence. The lecture was titled Space and Time, and it introduced to the world the marriage of the two, now known as spacetime. It was a good marriage, but lately physicists passion for spacetime has begun to diminish. And some are starting to whisper about possible grounds for divorce." 

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727721.200-rethinking-einstein-the-end-of-spacetime.html 
 "Rethinking Einstein: The end of space-time [...] The stumbling block lies with their conflicting views of space and time. As seen by quantum theory, space and time are a static backdrop against which particles move. In Einstein's theories, by contrast, not only are space and time inextricably linked, but the resulting space-time is moulded by the bodies within it. [...] Something has to give in this tussle between general relativity and quantum mechanics, and the smart money says that it's relativity that will be the loser."

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22730370-600-why-do-we-move-forwards-in-time/ 
 "[George] Ellis is up against one of the most successful theories in physics: special relativity. It revealed that there's no such thing as objective simultaneity. Although you might have seen three things happen in a particular order – 
A, then B, then C – someone moving 
at a different velocity could have seen 
it a different way – C, then B, then A. 
In other words, without simultaneity there is no way of specifying what things happened "now". And if not "now", what is moving through time? Rescuing an objective "now" is a daunting task."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/jun/10/time-reborn-farewell-reality-review 
 "And by making the clock's tick relative - what happens simultaneously for one observer might seem sequential to another - Einstein's theory of special relativity not only destroyed any notion of absolute time but made time equivalent to a dimension in space: the future is already out there waiting for us; we just can't see it until we get there. This view is a logical and metaphysical dead end, says Smolin." 

http://www.bookdepository.com/Time-Reborn-Professor-Physics-Lee-Smolin/9780547511726 
 "Was Einstein wrong? At least in his understanding of time, Smolin argues, the great theorist of relativity was dead wrong. What is worse, by firmly enshrining his error in scientific orthodoxy, Einstein trapped his successors in insoluble dilemmas..."

Pentcho Valev

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#384859

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 10:48:42 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> LIGO conspirators are given a lot of money for discovering ripples in spacetime; other Einsteinians are given a lot of money for discovering that spacetime does not exist and should be "retired":
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U47kyV4TMnE 
>  Nima Arkani-Hamed (06:11): "Almost all of us believe that space-time doesn't really exist, space-time is doomed and has to be replaced by some more primitive building blocks." 
> 
> https://edge.org/response-detail/25477 
>  What scientific idea is ready for retirement? Steve Giddings: "Spacetime. Physics has always been regarded as playing out on an underlying stage of space and time. Special relativity joined these into spacetime... [...] The apparent need to retire classical spacetime as a fundamental concept is profound..."
> 
> https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-185331159.html 
>  "That lecture, by the German mathematician Hermann Minkowski, established a new arena for the presentation of physics, a new vision of the nature of reality redefining the mathematics of existence. The lecture was titled Space and Time, and it introduced to the world the marriage of the two, now known as spacetime. It was a good marriage, but lately physicists passion for spacetime has begun to diminish. And some are starting to whisper about possible grounds for divorce." 
> 
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727721.200-rethinking-einstein-the-end-of-spacetime.html 
>  "Rethinking Einstein: The end of space-time [...] The stumbling block lies with their conflicting views of space and time. As seen by quantum theory, space and time are a static backdrop against which particles move. In Einstein's theories, by contrast, not only are space and time inextricably linked, but the resulting space-time is moulded by the bodies within it. [...] Something has to give in this tussle between general relativity and quantum mechanics, and the smart money says that it's relativity that will be the loser."
> 
> https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22730370-600-why-do-we-move-forwards-in-time/ 
>  "[George] Ellis is up against one of the most successful theories in physics: special relativity. It revealed that there's no such thing as objective simultaneity. Although you might have seen three things happen in a particular order – 
A, then B, then C – someone moving 
at a different velocity could have seen 
it a different way – C, then B, then A. 
In other words, without simultaneity there is no way of specifying what things happened "now". And if not "now", what is moving through time? Rescuing an objective "now" is a daunting task."
> 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/jun/10/time-reborn-farewell-reality-review 
>  "And by making the clock's tick relative - what happens simultaneously for one observer might seem sequential to another - Einstein's theory of special relativity not only destroyed any notion of absolute time but made time equivalent to a dimension in space: the future is already out there waiting for us; we just can't see it until we get there. This view is a logical and metaphysical dead end, says Smolin." 
> 
> http://www.bookdepository.com/Time-Reborn-Professor-Physics-Lee-Smolin/9780547511726 
>  "Was Einstein wrong? At least in his understanding of time, Smolin argues, the great theorist of relativity was dead wrong. What is worse, by firmly enshrining his error in scientific orthodoxy, Einstein trapped his successors in insoluble dilemmas..."
> 
> Pentcho Valev

Aren't we jealous.

--
Jan

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#384869

Pentcho Valev wrote:
> 
> http://www.techinsider.io/kavli-prize-winners-2016-6
>  "Nine scientists just won an award that's worth more than a Nobel Prize, earning a cool $1 million for their cutting-edge research. Called the Kavli Prize, these lofty awards... [...] The three winners in astrophysics this year were Ronald Drever, Kip Thorne, and Rainer Weiss. The trio won for detecting the ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves — arguably the most remarkable scientific achievement of the year, if not the past 100 years. "This detection has, in a single stroke and
> 
> http://news.mit.edu/2016/rainer-weiss-awarded-shaw-prize-astronomy-0601
>  "Weiss will share the $1.2 million prize with Kip Thorne, Caltech’s Richard P. Feynman Professor of Theoretical Physics, emeritus; and Ronald Drever, emeritus professor of physics at Caltech. Together, they are cited by the Shaw Foundation “for conceiving and designing the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), whose recent direct detection of gravitational waves opens a new window..."
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/science/ligo-gravitational-wave-breakthrough-prize-yuri-milner.html
>  "LIGO Gravitational Wave Researchers to Divide $3 Million. The three ringleaders of the gravitational-wave experiment, known as LIGO, Ronald P. Drever and Kip. S. Thorne of the California Institute of Technology, and Rainer Weiss of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, will split $1 million. The other $2 million will be split among 1,012 scientists who were authors of the article in Physical Review Letters, or who made major contributions to the study of gravitational waves."
> 
> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-05/iau-ro2050416.php
>  "In addition to a cash award of $500 000, to be shared equally between Drever, Thorne and Weiss, each of the three will receive a gold medal and a citation that reads: The Gruber Foundation proudly presents the 2016 Cosmology Prize to Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne, Ronald Drever, and the entire LIGO team for pursuing a vision to observe the universe in gravitational waves, leading to a first detection that emanated from the collision of two black holes."
> 
> Now Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne and Ronald Drever are wating for the Nobel prize but hope to be given a few more millions in the meantime:
> 
> http://motls.blogspot.bg/2016/02/ligo-journal-servers-behind-scenes.html
>  " On September 9th, the LIGO folks were already convinced that they would discover the waves soon. Some of them were thinking what they would buy for the Nobel prize and all of them had to make an online vote about the journal where the discovery should be published. It has to be Physical Review Letters because PRL (published by the APS) is the best journal for the Nobel-prize-caliber papers, the LIGO members decided. Five days later, Advanced LIGO made the discovery. Four more days later, as y
> 
> Pentcho Valev



You have to give some credit to Einstein's Relativity...e=mc2 was a big
money maker for all his friends helping him with his building an atomic
bomb.

He told everybody....patent everything. (thats how you get paid by
building my atomic bomb, i'll make you all fuckin rich!) 


Have you seen the E=mc2...hairstye?



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjqoHQKUoAABC5n.jpg

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#385004

"The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:57509C00.7962@ix.netcom.com...

Pentcho Valev wrote:
>
> http://www.techinsider.io/kavli-prize-winners-2016-6
>  "Nine scientists just won an award that's worth more than a Nobel Prize, 
> earning a cool $1 million for their cutting-edge research. Called the 
> Kavli Prize, these lofty awards... [...] The three winners in astrophysics 
> this year were Ronald Drever, Kip Thorne, and Rainer Weiss. The trio won 
> for detecting the ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves — 
> arguably the most remarkable scientific achievement of the year, if not 
> the past 100 years. "This detection has, in a single stroke and
>
> http://news.mit.edu/2016/rainer-weiss-awarded-shaw-prize-astronomy-0601
>  "Weiss will share the $1.2 million prize with Kip Thorne, Caltech’s 
> Richard P. Feynman Professor of Theoretical Physics, emeritus; and Ronald 
> Drever, emeritus professor of physics at Caltech. Together, they are cited 
> by the Shaw Foundation “for conceiving and designing the Laser 
> Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), whose recent direct 
> detection of gravitational waves opens a new window..."
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/science/ligo-gravitational-wave-breakthrough-prize-yuri-milner.html
>  "LIGO Gravitational Wave Researchers to Divide $3 Million. The three 
> ringleaders of the gravitational-wave experiment, known as LIGO, Ronald P. 
> Drever and Kip. S. Thorne of the California Institute of Technology, and 
> Rainer Weiss of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, will split $1 
> million. The other $2 million will be split among 1,012 scientists who 
> were authors of the article in Physical Review Letters, or who made major 
> contributions to the study of gravitational waves."
>
> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-05/iau-ro2050416.php
>  "In addition to a cash award of $500 000, to be shared equally between 
> Drever, Thorne and Weiss, each of the three will receive a gold medal and 
> a citation that reads: The Gruber Foundation proudly presents the 2016 
> Cosmology Prize to Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne, Ronald Drever, and the entire 
> LIGO team for pursuing a vision to observe the universe in gravitational 
> waves, leading to a first detection that emanated from the collision of 
> two black holes."
>
> Now Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne and Ronald Drever are wating for the Nobel 
> prize but hope to be given a few more millions in the meantime:
>
> http://motls.blogspot.bg/2016/02/ligo-journal-servers-behind-scenes.html
>  " On September 9th, the LIGO folks were already convinced that they would 
> discover the waves soon. Some of them were thinking what they would buy 
> for the Nobel prize and all of them had to make an online vote about the 
> journal where the discovery should be published. It has to be Physical 
> Review Letters because PRL (published by the APS) is the best journal for 
> the Nobel-prize-caliber papers, the LIGO members decided. Five days later, 
> Advanced LIGO made the discovery. Four more days later, as y
>
> Pentcho Valev


You have to give some credit to Einstein's Relativity...e=mc2 was a big
money maker for all his friends helping him with his building an atomic
bomb.

He told everybody....patent everything. (thats how you get paid by
building my atomic bomb, i'll make you all fuckin rich!)


Have you seen the E=mc2...hairstye?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjqoHQKUoAABC5n.jpg


*** I guess anyone who is smart and uses that mental advantage to
to better himself, by any legal means, automatically becomes  the
sworn enemy of deadbeats like you and your green-with-envy ilk,
don't they, Stardipshit ... 

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#385273

Hägar wrote:

> You have to give some credit to Einstein's Relativity...e=mc2 was a big
> money maker for all his friends helping him with his building an atomic
> bomb.

Einstein did _not_ build an atomic bomb; he urged Eisenhower in a letter to 
support the development of one (which led to the Manhattan Project in which 
Einstein did _not_ participate in any way), but only to have one to have a 
*strategic* advantage over *Nazi Germany*; not for using it against Germany 
(or its allies, in this case Japan).  Einstein was a pacifist at heart; he 
sought to achieve a balance of powers with this, having learned from his 
Hungarian colleague that Nazi Germany, through its then-recent conquests, 
would soon be able to complete the construction of an atomic bomb.  Later he 
was horrified that the atomic bomb not only was built but actually used, and 
regretted having written that letter.

That Einstein built or had helped building an atomic bomb is only what the 
“Starmaker” troll, that you have been feeding by crossposting across 4 
newsgroups *without* Followup-To, wants to believe or pretends to believe.

As for E = mc² (you cannot write it properly; do you even know what it means 
and where it comes from?), you could not have been writing this without it 
as everything in technology that enables you to submit postings depends on 
special relativity.  Starting with nuclear fission reactors that 
(unfortunately, but still) produce the majority of electricity required for 
computers in developed countries.  And even if you would depend solely on 
solar energy (which would be better), then you should be grateful to 
Einstein because he researched and explained the underlying photoelectric 
effect which started quantum mechanics (another set of theories without 
which there would be no microcomputers).

> He told everybody....patent everything.

He did _not_ do that *either*.  From which yellow press toilet seat do you 
get your "information" from?

F'up2 sci.physics.relativity

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#385282

On 6/7/16 12:05 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Einstein did _not_ build an atomic bomb; he urged Eisenhower

and you introduce your own misinformation ...
Better to forego comment in a thread initiated by the troll (as I ignore 
my own advice.)

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#385284

lal_truckee wrote:

> On 6/7/16 12:05 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Einstein did _not_ build an atomic bomb; he urged Eisenhower
> 
> and you introduce your own misinformation ...

Correction and clarification, then:

The President of the United States of America to whose office Albert 
Einstein (1879–1955) forwarded a letter written by Leo Szilárd, signed
by Einstein so that the latter must be assumed to have endorsed it thereby, 
to develop an atomic bomb, was not Dwight D. Eisenhower; it was the 32nd 
President, Franklin D. Roosevelt (in office: 1933–1945).

Eisenhower was the 34th President of the United States (in office: 
1951/1952) under whose administration the hydrogen bomb was under 
development instead.

See also: 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%E2%80%93Szil%C3%A1rd_letter>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower>

> Better to forego comment in a thread initiated by the troll (as I ignore 
> my own advice.)

Well, *nobody* is perfect.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#385327

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> Hägar wrote:
> 
> > You have to give some credit to Einstein's Relativity...e=mc2 was a big
> > money maker for all his friends helping him with his building an atomic
> > bomb.
> 
> Einstein did _not_ build an atomic bomb; he urged Eisenhower in a letter to
> support the development of one 


Okay, you want to switch the simple word "build" to the word you prefer to use "developement"...

fine, but they still both mean the same thing dummie:



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/build

to develop or form (something) gradually


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/development

 the act or process of creating something over a period of time

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/built

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/built


http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html



and here are other bombs einstein built...

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/bomb2.jpg

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/bomb1.jpg


oh, excuse me...developed....support the development of one...in a letter, ...




(the magazine cover reads E-mc2)
http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg



get a life.


you and your stupid pointed ears...(stole it from spock...probably a trekkie.)




Do you know what the hand signal *really* stands for Mr. Pointed ears???? I bet you a million dollars you don't even know!


I bet you a million dollars you don't even know!
I bet you a million dollars you don't even know!
I bet you a million dollars you don't even know what the Vulcan_salute *really* means!
I bet you a million dollars you don't even know!
I bet you a million dollars you don't even know!
I bet you a million dollars you don't even know!


and you call yourself pointed ears and you don't even know...what the Vulcan_salute *really* means!


I bet you a million dollars you don't even know!
I bet you a million dollars you don't even know!
I bet you a million dollars you don't even know!

I bet you a million dollars you don't even knowwwwwwww!

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#385332

In article <5757D749.19A2@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > 
> > Hägar wrote:
> > 
> > > You have to give some credit to Einstein's Relativity...e=mc2 was a big
> > > money maker for all his friends helping him with his building an atomic
> > > bomb.
> > 
> > Einstein did _not_ build an atomic bomb; he urged Eisenhower in a letter to
> > support the development of one 
> 
> 
> Okay, you want to switch the simple word "build" to the word you prefer to 
> use "developement"...

Actually it was the president at that time, Roosevelt, and he signed but didn't 
write the letter. Eisenhower was still off in the Philipines or somewhere else 
irrelevant. The letter didn't urge the building of bomb. It stated the 
possibility that something might be done with the newly discoverred fission in 
Germany, and Germany seemed suddenly interested in Uranium. It suggested the US 
government decide what to do with the research being done in the US.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#385409 — Einstein–Szilárd letter (was: Einstein's Relativity as a Money-Spinner)

je suis charly wrote:

> [corrections I made ca. 12 hours earlier in 
> <news:1854950.h90O4IymGf@PointedEars.de>]
> 
> The Einstein–Szilárd letter didn't urge the building of bomb. It stated 
> the possibility that something might be done with the newly discoverred
> fission in Germany, and Germany seemed suddenly interested in Uranium. It
> suggested the US government decide what to do with the research being done
> in the US.

If you read <http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/psf/box5/a64a02.html>, what 
do you think Szilárd was referring to with the “experimental work” for which 
uranium should be ”secured”, when he wrote about the prospect of building a 
bomb just one page before that?

Certainly Alexander Sachs who delivered the letter to Roosevelt, understood 
it *also* to be an endorsement to build an atomic bomb:

<http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/psf/box5/a64b01.html>

F'up2 <news:soc.history.science>

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.$

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#385417

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> je suis charly wrote:
> 
> > [corrections I made ca. 12 hours earlier in
> > <news:1854950.h90O4IymGf@PointedEars.de>]
> >
> > The Einstein–Szilárd letter didn't urge the building of bomb. It stated
> > the possibility that something might be done with the newly discoverred
> > fission in Germany, and Germany seemed suddenly interested in Uranium. It
> > suggested the US government decide what to do with the research being done
> > in the US.
> 
> If you read <http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/psf/box5/a64a02.html>, what
> do you think Szilárd was referring to 


Now you're trying to switch names of who wrote the letter!


You must think everyone here is STUPID? 


Or idiots...


Which is it, stupid or idiots?


control freaks are the worse...

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#385377

For some reason, yous people don't understand reality.


The patent for the atomic bomb was 1934
https://www.google.com/#q=patent+for+the+atomic+bomb


The letter Einstein wrote to Roosevelt
was written in
August 2nd 1939




Youssss obviously haven't read the book...

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html




How do you people manage to walk on the planet earth with wrong information in your head all the time???



Doesn't it hurt your head??

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#385392

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> For some reason, yous people don't understand reality.
> 
> The patent for the atomic bomb was 1934
> https://www.google.com/#q=patent+for+the+atomic+bomb
> 
> The letter Einstein wrote to Roosevelt
> was written in
> August 2nd 1939
> 
> Youssss obviously haven't read the book...
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html
> 
> How do you people manage to walk on the planet earth with wrong information in your head all the time???
> 
> Doesn't it hurt your head??




from this:
http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Einstein-Hitler-exile-postcard.jpg

you get this:
http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg



Which one is the bigger monster?

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#384882

Pentcho Valev wrote:
> 
> http://www.techinsider.io/kavli-prize-winners-2016-6
>  "Nine scientists just won an award that's worth more than a Nobel Prize, earning a cool $1 million for their cutting-edge research. Called the Kavli Prize, these lofty awards... [...] The three winners in astrophysics this year were Ronald Drever, Kip Thorne, and Rainer Weiss. The trio won for detecting the ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves — arguably the most remarkable scientific achievement of the year, if not the past 100 years. "This detection has, in a single stroke and
> 
> http://news.mit.edu/2016/rainer-weiss-awarded-shaw-prize-astronomy-0601
>  "Weiss will share the $1.2 million prize with Kip Thorne, Caltech’s Richard P. Feynman Professor of Theoretical Physics, emeritus; and Ronald Drever, emeritus professor of physics at Caltech. Together, they are cited by the Shaw Foundation “for conceiving and designing the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), whose recent direct detection of gravitational waves opens a new window..."
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/science/ligo-gravitational-wave-breakthrough-prize-yuri-milner.html
>  "LIGO Gravitational Wave Researchers to Divide $3 Million. The three ringleaders of the gravitational-wave experiment, known as LIGO, Ronald P. Drever and Kip. S. Thorne of the California Institute of Technology, and Rainer Weiss of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, will split $1 million. The other $2 million will be split among 1,012 scientists who were authors of the article in Physical Review Letters, or who made major contributions to the study of gravitational waves."
> 
> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-05/iau-ro2050416.php
>  "In addition to a cash award of $500 000, to be shared equally between Drever, Thorne and Weiss, each of the three will receive a gold medal and a citation that reads: The Gruber Foundation proudly presents the 2016 Cosmology Prize to Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne, Ronald Drever, and the entire LIGO team for pursuing a vision to observe the universe in gravitational waves, leading to a first detection that emanated from the collision of two black holes."
> 
> Now Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne and Ronald Drever are wating for the Nobel prize but hope to be given a few more millions in the meantime:
> 
> http://motls.blogspot.bg/2016/02/ligo-journal-servers-behind-scenes.html
>  " On September 9th, the LIGO folks were already convinced that they would discover the waves soon. Some of them were thinking what they would buy for the Nobel prize and all of them had to make an online vote about the journal where the discovery should be published. It has to be Physical Review Letters because PRL (published by the APS) is the best journal for the Nobel-prize-caliber papers, the LIGO members decided. Five days later, Advanced LIGO made the discovery. Four more days later, as y
> 
> Pentcho Valev


Okay, let me explain what you are doing wrong with your post...

you have to pretend
you're a DJ.

You take one song/vinly/record
and you take another
song/vinly/record
and you mix it...
by adding your own style
to it.

You got to give 'your own voice' to your mixes.

Tt lacks unique commentary

For example:
Lee creates a great piece of curated content in which he collected the best of other people’s research. 
He then organizes the information to give readers an overview of the most relevant research. 
Further, as a good "content curator/DJ", Lee adds extra value to the content by including his own commentary.


In other words, without Your commentary, it has no value, ...it's blase.


I will make you a Star, overnight!



The Starmaker

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#384958

Einsteinians are usually making career and money by singing "Divine Einstein" and "Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lE-I2I4i00 
 "No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein not Maxwell, Curie, or Bohr! His fame went glo-bell, he won the Nobel - He should have been given four! No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein, Professor with brains galore! No-one could outshine Professor Einstein! He gave us special relativity, That's always made him a hero to me! No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein, Professor in overdrive!" 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PkLLXhONvQ 
 Max Tegmark: "We all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. Everything is relative, even simultaneity, and soon Einstein's become a de facto physics deity. 'cos we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. We all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity."

Still Einsteinians are able to extract career and money from the wrongness of Einstein's relativity as well: 

http://horizon-magazine.eu/article/what-s-next-gravitational-waves_en.html 
 " The biggest result of research into gravitational waves may eventually be overturning Einstein’s theories for something new and more precise. Einstein’s theory of general relativity has survived unchanged for 100 years, and we know there must be something wrong with it somewhere (because it breaks down at the quantum level),’ Prof. Hannam said. ‘Further down the line, when we get more sensitive detectors, where we will be able to get much, much stronger signals, then we can start to make stronger tests of general relativity.’ " 

And Einsteinians know exactly what's wrong with Einstein's relativity - it involves the idiotic relative time, a consequence of Einstein's 1905 false constant-speed-of-light postulate: 

https://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/research/conferences/convergence/roundtable-discussion-questions/what-are-lessons-quantum 
 Perimeter Institute: "Quantum mechanics has one thing, time, which is absolute. But general relativity tells us that space and time are both dynamical so there is a big contradiction there. So the question is, can quantum gravity be formulated in a context where quantum mechanics still has absolute time?"

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/08/05/science.aac6498 
 "In Einstein's general theory of relativity, time depends locally on gravity; in standard quantum theory, time is global - all clocks "tick" uniformly."

http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0610057.pdf 
 "One one hand, time in quantum mechanics is a Newtonian time, i.e., an absolute time. In fact, the two main methods of quantization, namely, canonical quantization method due to Dirac and Feynman's path integral method are based on classical constraints which become operators annihilating the physical states, and on the sum over all possible classical trajectories, respectively. Therefore, both quantization methods rely on the Newton global and absolute time. (...) The transition to (special) relativistic quantum field theories can be realized by replacing the unique absolute Newtonian time by a set of timelike parameters associated to the naturally distinguished family of relativistic inertial frames."

http://www.hindawi.com/journals/isrn/2013/509316/ 
 "In quantum mechanics, time is absolute. The parameter occurring in the Schrödinger equation has been directly inherited from Newtonian mechanics and is not turned into an operator. In quantum field theory, time by itself is no longer absolute, but the four-dimensional spacetime is; it constitutes the fixed background structure on which the dynamical fields act. GR is of a very different nature. According to the Einstein equations (2), spacetime is dynamical, acting in a complicated manner with energy momentum of matter and with itself. The concepts of time (spacetime) in quantum theory and GR are thus drastically different and cannot both be fundamentally true."

Pentcho Valev

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#384985

Pentcho Valev wrote:
> 
> Einsteinians are usually making career and money by singing "Divine Einstein" and "Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity":
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lE-I2I4i00
>  "No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein not Maxwell, Curie, or Bohr! His fame went glo-bell, he won the Nobel - He should have been given four! No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein, Professor with brains galore! No-one could outshine Professor Einstein! He gave us special relativity, That's always made him a hero to me! No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein, Professor in overdrive!"
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PkLLXhONvQ
>  Max Tegmark: "We all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. Everything is relative, even simultaneity, and soon Einstein's become a de facto physics deity. 'cos we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. We all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity."
> 
> Still Einsteinians are able to extract career and money from the wrongness of Einstein's relativity as well:
> 
> http://horizon-magazine.eu/article/what-s-next-gravitational-waves_en.html
>  " The biggest result of research into gravitational waves may eventually be overturning Einstein’s theories for something new and more precise. Einstein’s theory of general relativity has survived unchanged for 100 years, and we know there must be something wrong with it somewhere (because it breaks down at the quantum level),’ Prof. Hannam said. ‘Further down the line, when we get more sensitive detectors, where we will be able to get much, much stronger signals, then we can start to m
> 
> And Einsteinians know exactly what's wrong with Einstein's relativity - it involves the idiotic relative time, a consequence of Einstein's 1905 false constant-speed-of-light postulate:
> 
> https://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/research/conferences/convergence/roundtable-discussion-questions/what-are-lessons-quantum
>  Perimeter Institute: "Quantum mechanics has one thing, time, which is absolute. But general relativity tells us that space and time are both dynamical so there is a big contradiction there. So the question is, can quantum gravity be formulated in a context where quantum mechanics still has absolute time?"
> 
> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/08/05/science.aac6498
>  "In Einstein's general theory of relativity, time depends locally on gravity; in standard quantum theory, time is global - all clocks "tick" uniformly."
> 
> http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0610057.pdf
> 
> 
> http://www.hindawi.com/journals/isrn/2013/509316/
> 
> 
> Pentcho Valev



i don't hear the music..

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#384987

On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 5:50:47 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> Einsteinians are usually making career and money by singing "Divine Einstein" and "Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity":

No, that's just the standard fantasy of sour grapes like you.

In real life, on the other hand, scientists simply do the work. Like any other domain of human
activity, it's obviously not entirely devoid of some negative factors but it's nothing warranting
any special attention, especially from emotionally disturbed individuals like you.

--
Jan

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