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| Started by | Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> |
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| First post | 2016-03-11 18:18 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-03-12 15:46 +0000 |
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SR and GR, soon to become History Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-11 18:18 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 12:30 -0600
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-11 10:51 -0800
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:59 -0800
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-11 20:49 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-11 13:25 -0800
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 14:30 -0800
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-18 10:34 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-18 13:19 -0500
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-18 11:56 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-18 17:27 -0500
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-18 23:41 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 16:01 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-19 00:22 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 16:39 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-18 17:50 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 20:24 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 20:28 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-19 10:53 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 13:26 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-19 10:25 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 13:27 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-19 15:58 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 16:16 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-20 13:31 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 23:02 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-21 10:09 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 10:55 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-21 13:02 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 13:13 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-21 13:37 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 15:42 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-21 16:50 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 21:13 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 21:41 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-21 16:39 -0500
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-21 16:41 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-22 00:14 -0500
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-22 09:41 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 22:29 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-22 09:45 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:10 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-22 13:01 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:51 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-22 15:34 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 16:41 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-23 07:28 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History bear making dust <bear@bearmakingdust.net> - 2016-03-23 14:36 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 09:07 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-23 09:34 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 12:48 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 17:09 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:13 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 18:26 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 13:55 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 22:55 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 15:18 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 23:46 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 16:17 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-23 10:59 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-19 08:50 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-19 13:27 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:13 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-22 19:31 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:44 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-22 19:47 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 11:49 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-22 20:40 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 13:08 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-22 21:42 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 15:00 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 17:15 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 09:43 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 18:10 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:16 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 18:27 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 10:33 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 10:32 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 10:18 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 19:10 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 11:54 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 20:08 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 13:34 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-23 22:48 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History bear making dust <bear@bearmakingdust.net> - 2016-03-23 19:24 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 13:33 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-23 15:25 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 17:46 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-24 12:38 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 14:35 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-18 17:42 -0700
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-03-11 11:08 -0800
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-11 20:46 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-11 21:06 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-11 22:31 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-11 21:41 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-03-11 13:42 -0800
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-11 21:51 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-12 04:22 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-11 21:24 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 22:28 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-11 21:34 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 22:39 +0100
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History Yeriychow Patroklos <yeriypat@kambuneta.com> - 2016-03-12 10:08 +0000
Re: SR and GR, soon to become History moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-12 15:46 +0000
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-03-19 08:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ncj0dh$5g5$1@node1.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #379478 |
Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:f86bb980-5c30-43e4-bd81-6f176ae2d232@googlegroups.com... > > No, they are not. Newtonian theory is built seriously, > > and it can take about anything. Though, of course, morons > > like you are too stupid to notice it. > > |False. Sorry to burst your bubble. > > You're too stupid to burst anything, and what I said is true. |False. Sorry. There is simply nothing you can do about it. |Newtonian mechanics doesn't work in accelerators. There is only nothing YOU can do about it. Obvious thing, as you're a brainless idiot unable to basic thinking.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-03-19 13:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ncjk39$ht4$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #379501 |
=?utf-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= <mlwozniak@wp.pl> writes: >U=C5=BCytkownik "JanPB" napisa=C5=82 w wiadomo=C5=9Bci grup=20 >dyskusyjnych:f86bb980-5c30-43e4-bd81-6f176ae2d232@googlegroups.com... >> > No, they are not. Newtonian theory is built seriously, >> > and it can take about anything. Though, of course, morons >> > like you are too stupid to notice it. >> >> |False. Sorry to burst your bubble. >> >> You're too stupid to burst anything, and what I said is true. >|False. Sorry. There is simply nothing you can do about it. >|Newtonian mechanics doesn't work in accelerators. >There is only nothing YOU can do about it. Obvious thing, >as you're a brainless idiot unable to basic thinking. Nope. The early "dee" particle accelerators simply don't work at high energy because of relativistic effects. Old large color computer monitors/TV picture tubes (remember them?) needed relativistic correction in their design to prevent distortion. Too bad for you to be on the losing side of scientific history.
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 11:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <825e6dc1-01fd-4311-b765-2695003ad58d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379501 |
On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 12:51:15 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:f86bb980-5c30-43e4-bd81-6f176ae2d232@googlegroups.com... > > > > No, they are not. Newtonian theory is built seriously, > > > and it can take about anything. Though, of course, morons > > > like you are too stupid to notice it. > > > > |False. Sorry to burst your bubble. > > > > You're too stupid to burst anything, and what I said is true. > > |False. Sorry. There is simply nothing you can do about it. > |Newtonian mechanics doesn't work in accelerators. > > There is only nothing YOU can do about it. Obvious thing, > as you're a brainless idiot unable to basic thinking. All you ever post is prose like this. You have never made a single statement in support of your stupid smirks. Why don't you post some good poetry instead? It would be more fun to read. -- Jan
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 19:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ncs32b$eo0$1@node1.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #379853 |
Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:825e6dc1-01fd-4311-b765-2695003ad58d@googlegroups.com... On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 12:51:15 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:f86bb980-5c30-43e4-bd81-6f176ae2d232@googlegroups.com... > > > > No, they are not. Newtonian theory is built seriously, > > > and it can take about anything. Though, of course, morons > > > like you are too stupid to notice it. > > > > |False. Sorry to burst your bubble. > > > > You're too stupid to burst anything, and what I said is true. > > |False. Sorry. There is simply nothing you can do about it. > |Newtonian mechanics doesn't work in accelerators. > > There is only nothing YOU can do about it. Obvious thing, > as you're a brainless idiot unable to basic thinking. |All you ever post is prose like this. You have never made a single All you ever post is yelling "not even wrong!!!" or "irrelevant!!!" You have never made a single statement in support of your stupid smirks. But, what to expect from a fanatic idiot. Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with accelerators you've mentioned. Though, of course, morons like you are too stupid to notice it.
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 11:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <deaec686-f120-4267-8bde-ba2e22b36e7b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379859 |
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 11:31:41 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:825e6dc1-01fd-4311-b765-2695003ad58d@googlegroups.com... > > On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 12:51:15 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:f86bb980-5c30-43e4-bd81-6f176ae2d232@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > No, they are not. Newtonian theory is built seriously, > > > > and it can take about anything. Though, of course, morons > > > > like you are too stupid to notice it. > > > > > > |False. Sorry to burst your bubble. > > > > > > You're too stupid to burst anything, and what I said is true. > > > > |False. Sorry. There is simply nothing you can do about it. > > |Newtonian mechanics doesn't work in accelerators. > > > > There is only nothing YOU can do about it. Obvious thing, > > as you're a brainless idiot unable to basic thinking. > > |All you ever post is prose like this. You have never made a single > > All you ever post is yelling "not even wrong!!!" or "irrelevant!!!" > You have never made a single statement in support of your > stupid smirks. But, what to expect from a fanatic idiot. > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > accelerators you've mentioned. Though, of course, morons > like you are too stupid to notice it. False. Until you learn the stuff you pontificate about there is nothing to add to this "discussion". -- Jan
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 19:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ncs40r$fs2$1@node1.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #379869 |
Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:deaec686-f120-4267-8bde-ba2e22b36e7b@googlegroups.com... On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 11:31:41 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > All you ever post is yelling "not even wrong!!!" or "irrelevant!!!" > You have never made a single statement in support of your > stupid smirks. But, what to expect from a fanatic idiot. > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > accelerators you've mentioned. Though, of course, morons > like you are too stupid to notice it. |False. Until you learn the stuff you pontificate about there is |nothing to add to this "discussion". True. You will never learn the stuff you pontificate about, so there is nothing to add to this "discussion".
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| From | David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 11:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379859 |
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 11:31:41 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:825e6dc1-01fd-4311-b765-2695003ad58d@googlegroups.com... > > On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 12:51:15 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:f86bb980-5c30-43e4-bd81-6f176ae2d232@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > No, they are not. Newtonian theory is built seriously, > > > > and it can take about anything. Though, of course, morons > > > > like you are too stupid to notice it. > > > > > > |False. Sorry to burst your bubble. > > > > > > You're too stupid to burst anything, and what I said is true. > > > > |False. Sorry. There is simply nothing you can do about it. > > |Newtonian mechanics doesn't work in accelerators. > > > > There is only nothing YOU can do about it. Obvious thing, > > as you're a brainless idiot unable to basic thinking. > > |All you ever post is prose like this. You have never made a single > > All you ever post is yelling "not even wrong!!!" or "irrelevant!!!" > You have never made a single statement in support of your > stupid smirks. But, what to expect from a fanatic idiot. > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > accelerators you've mentioned. Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call that bluff. The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it enters a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration by http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only Newtonian dynamics.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 20:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ncs742$10c$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #379872 |
Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > accelerators you've mentioned. |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call that bluff. |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear Wrong, poor idiot. You've assumed constant mass. NM gave you no real reason. As I've said, it's buolt seriously. It has a lot of such traps for poor idiots trying to pretend gurus.
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| From | David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 13:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379876 |
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call that > bluff. > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it enters > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration > by > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only > Newtonian dynamics. > > Wrong, poor idiot. You've assumed constant mass. So you weren't able to do it. I knew that. You don't know enough to do it even with special relativistic physics. You were just raving as the lunatic that you are that you could do it using Newtonian dynamics, but when called on your bluff, you couldn't.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 21:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ncsao7$nid$1@node1.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #379883 |
Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call that > bluff. > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it enters > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration > by > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only > Newtonian dynamics. > > Wrong, poor idiot. You've assumed constant mass. |So you weren't able to do it. I knew that. So you weren't able to read. I knew that. | You don't know enough to do it even with special relativistic physics. You were just raving as the lunatic that you are that you could do it using Newtonian dynamics, but when called on your bluff, you couldn't. Keep dreaming, poor, blind idiot.
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| From | David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-22 15:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379885 |
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call that > > bluff. > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it enters > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration > > by > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only > > Newtonian dynamics. > > > > > Wrong, poor idiot. You've assumed constant mass. > > |So you weren't able to do it. I knew that. > > So you weren't able to read. So you still can't do it. I knew that. You don't know enough about the subject to have any rational opinion about it. You couldn't even reproduce its derivation being told that it can be done using special relativity, but not with Newtonian dynamics even if you did use a speed dependent mass, utterly invalidating your ridiculous claim.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 17:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ncuffu$t6c$1@node1.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #379892 |
Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com... On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call > > that > > bluff. > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it enters > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration > > by > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only > > Newtonian dynamics. > > > > > Wrong, poor idiot. You've assumed constant mass. > > |So you weren't able to do it. I knew that. > > So you weren't able to read. |So you still can't do it So your proof against NM is - that particles paths are not linear and not circular? Really funny. You know, you're even stupider, than I thought. Unbelievable. OK, so, show, me, how does NM forbid particles to have unlinear and uncircular paths. Better limit yourself to proving, that every opponent of The Shit is a fucken racist. Such proofs don't require any logic, so they are in your range.
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| From | David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 09:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0d5c329f-adad-4614-a61a-eccd2deddbaa@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379933 |
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com... > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call > > > that > > > bluff. > > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle > > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it enters > > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear > > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity > > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab > > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration > > > by > > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only > > > Newtonian dynamics. > |So you still can't do it. I knew that. You don't know enough about the subject to have any rational opinion about it. You couldn't even reproduce its derivation being told that it can be done using special relativity, but not with Newtonian dynamics even if you did use a speed dependent mass, utterly invalidating your ridiculous claim. > > So your proof against NM is - that particles paths are not linear and > not circular? Nope, and no its not a surprise that what I said went over your head.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 18:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ncuims$r5$1@node1.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #379938 |
Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:0d5c329f-adad-4614-a61a-eccd2deddbaa@googlegroups.com... On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com... > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call > > > that > > > bluff. > > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle > > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it > > > enters > > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear > > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity > > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab > > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration > > > by > > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only > > > Newtonian dynamics. > |So you still can't do it. I knew that. You don't know enough about the > subject to have any rational opinion about it. You couldn't even reproduce > its derivation being told that it can be done using special relativity, > but not with Newtonian dynamics even if you did use a speed dependent > mass, utterly invalidating your ridiculous claim. > > So your proof against NM is - that particles paths are not linear and > not circular? |Nope A lie, of course. That's exactly what you said. But I'm not surprised you're ashamed.
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 10:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1b2fa81a-3a05-4a8c-92e9-fee4c813bf1c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379942 |
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:10:53 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:0d5c329f-adad-4614-a61a-eccd2deddbaa@googlegroups.com... > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call > > > > that > > > > bluff. > > > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle > > > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it > > > > enters > > > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear > > > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity > > > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab > > > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration > > > > by > > > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only > > > > Newtonian dynamics. > > > |So you still can't do it. I knew that. You don't know enough about the > > subject to have any rational opinion about it. You couldn't even reproduce > > its derivation being told that it can be done using special relativity, > > but not with Newtonian dynamics even if you did use a speed dependent > > mass, utterly invalidating your ridiculous claim. > > > > > So your proof against NM is - that particles paths are not linear and > > not circular? > > |Nope > > A lie, of course. That's exactly what you said. > But I'm not surprised you're ashamed. David, notice how he repeats your turns of phrase. He does this xerox act a lot. -- Jan
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 18:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ncujm8$1t1$1@node1.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #379944 |
Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:1b2fa81a-3a05-4a8c-92e9-fee4c813bf1c@googlegroups.com... On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:10:53 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:0d5c329f-adad-4614-a61a-eccd2deddbaa@googlegroups.com... > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll > > > > call > > > > that > > > > bluff. > > > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a > > > > particle > > > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it > > > > enters > > > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a > > > > linear > > > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special > > > > relativity > > > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to > > > > lab > > > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 > > > > acceleration > > > > by > > > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using > > > > only > > > > Newtonian dynamics. > > > |So you still can't do it. I knew that. You don't know enough about the > > subject to have any rational opinion about it. You couldn't even > > reproduce > > its derivation being told that it can be done using special relativity, > > but not with Newtonian dynamics even if you did use a speed dependent > > mass, utterly invalidating your ridiculous claim. > > > > > So your proof against NM is - that particles paths are not linear and > > not circular? > > |Nope > > A lie, of course. That's exactly what you said. > But I'm not surprised you're ashamed. |David, notice how he repeats your turns of phrase. He does this xerox act |a lot. I'm talking to an idiot, so I have to descend to his level.
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| From | David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 10:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <62c2a8bf-1d73-42f4-a173-6968f2f9e9e5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379949 |
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:27:37 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:1b2fa81a-3a05-4a8c-92e9-fee4c813bf1c@googlegroups.com... > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:10:53 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:0d5c329f-adad-4614-a61a-eccd2deddbaa@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > > > > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll > > > > > call > > > > > that > > > > > bluff. > > > > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a > > > > > particle > > > > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it > > > > > enters > > > > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a > > > > > linear > > > > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special > > > > > relativity > > > > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to > > > > > lab > > > > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 > > > > > acceleration > > > > > by > > > > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > > > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using > > > > > only > > > > > Newtonian dynamics. > > > > > |So you still can't do it. I knew that. You don't know enough about the > > > subject to have any rational opinion about it. You couldn't even > > > reproduce > > > its derivation being told that it can be done using special relativity, > > > but not with Newtonian dynamics even if you did use a speed dependent > > > mass, utterly invalidating your ridiculous claim. > > > > > > > > So your proof against NM is - that particles paths are not linear and > > > not circular? > > > > |Nope > > > > A lie, of course. That's exactly what you said. > > But I'm not surprised you're ashamed. > > |David, notice how he repeats your turns of phrase. He does this xerox act > |a lot. > > I'm talking to an idiot, so I have to descend to his level. You're the one who didn't understand what I was saying.
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| From | David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 10:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <855d8570-9ccc-4c76-bb87-ed36657b03a7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379944 |
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:16:22 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:10:53 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:0d5c329f-adad-4614-a61a-eccd2deddbaa@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > > > > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call > > > > > that > > > > > bluff. > > > > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle > > > > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it > > > > > enters > > > > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear > > > > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity > > > > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab > > > > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration > > > > > by > > > > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > > > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only > > > > > Newtonian dynamics. > > > > > |So you still can't do it. I knew that. You don't know enough about the > > > subject to have any rational opinion about it. You couldn't even reproduce > > > its derivation being told that it can be done using special relativity, > > > but not with Newtonian dynamics even if you did use a speed dependent > > > mass, utterly invalidating your ridiculous claim. > > > > > > > > So your proof against NM is - that particles paths are not linear and > > > not circular? > > > > |Nope > > > > A lie, of course. That's exactly what you said. > > But I'm not surprised you're ashamed. > > David, notice how he repeats your turns of phrase. He does this xerox act > a lot. > > -- > Jan Yep. Sad that he can't come up with things to say on his own.
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| From | David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 10:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <39f6f3cf-c684-44f1-b041-18b289f6960e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #379942 |
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:10:53 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:0d5c329f-adad-4614-a61a-eccd2deddbaa@googlegroups.com... > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll call > > > > that > > > > bluff. > > > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a particle > > > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it > > > > enters > > > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a linear > > > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special relativity > > > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to lab > > > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 acceleration > > > > by > > > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using only > > > > Newtonian dynamics. > > > |So you still can't do it. I knew that. You don't know enough about the > > subject to have any rational opinion about it. You couldn't even reproduce > > its derivation being told that it can be done using special relativity, > > but not with Newtonian dynamics even if you did use a speed dependent > > mass, utterly invalidating your ridiculous claim. > > > > > So your proof against NM is - that particles paths are not linear and > > not circular? > > |Nope > > A lie, of course. That's exactly what you said. Nope and nope, and no I'm not surprised that what I was saying went over your head.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 19:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ncum6h$4e5$1@node1.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #379946 |
Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:39f6f3cf-c684-44f1-b041-18b289f6960e@googlegroups.com... On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:10:53 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:0d5c329f-adad-4614-a61a-eccd2deddbaa@googlegroups.com... > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:07c9042c-97f6-4918-98e7-42dc7cef38d9@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:9f716b88-3ee9-47fb-8382-e03617aade32@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > > dyskusyjnych:cb7e448c-f510-4a21-b560-d5953463ecdd@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > Anyway, as I've said, newtonian mechanics is built seriously. > > > > > and it can take about anything. It has no slighest problem with > > > > > accelerators you've mentioned. > > > > > > > > |Just to embarrass you anti-relativity racist nutters, fine I'll > > > > call > > > > that > > > > bluff. > > > > |The equation of motion that a charge particle undergoes in a > > > > particle > > > > accelerator given that its path isn't entirely linear in that it > > > > enters > > > > a cyclotron and isn't entirely circular as its injected with a > > > > linear > > > > accelerator injector is known to be consistent with special > > > > relativity > > > > relating the ordinary force, f, change in momentum with respect to > > > > lab > > > > time, to lab coordinate 3 velocity u and lab coordinate 3 > > > > acceleration > > > > by > > > > http://www.modernrelativitysite.com/fox329.gif > > > > So in calling your bluff, you must now derive that equation using > > > > only > > > > Newtonian dynamics. > > > |So you still can't do it. I knew that. You don't know enough about the > > subject to have any rational opinion about it. You couldn't even > > reproduce > > its derivation being told that it can be done using special relativity, > > but not with Newtonian dynamics even if you did use a speed dependent > > mass, utterly invalidating your ridiculous claim. > > > > > So your proof against NM is - that particles paths are not linear and > > not circular? > > |Nope > > A lie, of course. That's exactly what you said. |Nope and nope, So, what are you talking about? Are you proving experiments refute NM or aren't you?
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