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The midpoint of comoving instantaneous frames

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  The midpoint of comoving instantaneous frames John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 16:34 -0800
    Re: The midpoint of comoving instantaneous frames Helénē Swanhild <helenes@gardenclosure.org> - 2016-03-03 19:14 +0000
      Re: The midpoint of comoving instantaneous frames John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 18:34 -0800
        Re: The midpoint of comoving instantaneous frames "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 20:18 -0800
          Re: The midpoint of comoving instantaneous frames John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 16:26 -0800
    Re: The midpoint of comoving instantaneous frames David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-04 16:47 -0800
      Re: The midpoint of comoving instantaneous frames John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 16:18 -0800

#377754 — The midpoint of comoving instantaneous frames

The two points A and B which measure event C must have a central midpoint in order to coordinate information- reminiscent of P.W. Bridgman's quote "the central clearing house".

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#377808

John Gogo wrote:

> The two points A and B which measure event C must have a central
> midpoint in order to coordinate information- reminiscent of P.W.
> Bridgman's quote "the central clearing house".

You miss the point. What A and B measure would be event A and event B, not 
C, since event C is only related to C, distinct from event A and event B. 

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#377851

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:14:18 PM UTC-6, Helénē Swanhild wrote:
> John Gogo wrote:
> 
> > The two points A and B which measure event C must have a central
> > midpoint in order to coordinate information- reminiscent of P.W.
> > Bridgman's quote "the central clearing house".
> 
> You miss the point. What A and B measure would be event A and event B, not 
> C, since event C is only related to C, distinct from event A and event B.

Point A and B, can be considered observers like me and you. What we measure is the infinite C of objects or events. If we choose to coordinate our measures- the distance between each other and many other factors- we must at first begin to coordinate ourselves in reference to the same C or a single C.

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#377922

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 6:34:44 PM UTC-8, John Gogo wrote:
> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:14:18 PM UTC-6, Helénē Swanhild wrote:
> > John Gogo wrote:
> > 
> > > The two points A and B which measure event C must have a central
> > > midpoint in order to coordinate information- reminiscent of P.W.
> > > Bridgman's quote "the central clearing house".
> > 
> > You miss the point. What A and B measure would be event A and event B, not 
> > C, since event C is only related to C, distinct from event A and event B.
> 
> Point A and B, can be considered observers like me and you. What we measure is the infinite C of objects or events. If we choose to coordinate our measures- the distance between each other and many other factors- we must at first begin to coordinate ourselves in reference to the same C or a single C.

Does this say that in a sense 
relativity only matters to motion 
and not rest?

I don't know if A and B maintain 
observers (or have volition) or 
just are.

Because frames are everywhere, 
and they are infinitely nested, 
and there are always internal points 
and external points to any frames, 
then a frame is a classical region.

But, there is above and below it 
the global for it's local, and 
local for its global, and each 
of its points and its total.

Then, we get into relative scale, 
besides relative motion. 

And they are observed in different ways.

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#377966

On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 10:18:06 PM UTC-6, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 6:34:44 PM UTC-8, John Gogo wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:14:18 PM UTC-6, Helénē Swanhild wrote:
> > > John Gogo wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The two points A and B which measure event C must have a central
> > > > midpoint in order to coordinate information- reminiscent of P.W.
> > > > Bridgman's quote "the central clearing house".
> > > 
> > > You miss the point. What A and B measure would be event A and event B, not 
> > > C, since event C is only related to C, distinct from event A and event B.
> > 
> > Point A and B, can be considered observers like me and you. What we measure is the infinite C of objects or events. If we choose to coordinate our measures- the distance between each other and many other factors- we must at first begin to coordinate ourselves in reference to the same C or a single C.
> 
> Does this say that in a sense 
> relativity only matters to motion 
> and not rest?
> 
> I don't know if A and B maintain 
> observers (or have volition) or 
> just are.
> 
> Because frames are everywhere, 
> and they are infinitely nested, 
> and there are always internal points 
> and external points to any frames, 
> then a frame is a classical region.
> 
> But, there is above and below it 
> the global for it's local, and 
> local for its global, and each 
> of its points and its total.
> 
> Then, we get into relative scale, 
> besides relative motion. 
> 
> And they are observed in different ways.

In my view, A and B alone cannot synchronize each other in order to measure a C. There is required a midpoint M, stationed exactly between A and B- which insures (each's equality) when considering paralleled structures C.

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#377916

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 6:34:10 PM UTC-6, John Gogo wrote:
> The two points A and B which measure event C must have a central midpoint in order to coordinate information- reminiscent of P.W. Bridgman's quote "the central clearing house".

Just Use the Difference in the Vacuum impedance between A & B adjusted to their Velocity relative each other to calculate the Red/Blue Shift Difference between A & B to measure event C 

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#377965

On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 6:47:13 PM UTC-6, David Fuller wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 6:34:10 PM UTC-6, John Gogo wrote:
> > The two points A and B which measure event C must have a central midpoint in order to coordinate information- reminiscent of P.W. Bridgman's quote "the central clearing house".
> 
> Just Use the Difference in the Vacuum impedance between A & B adjusted to their Velocity relative each other to calculate the Red/Blue Shift Difference between A & B to measure event C

Good.

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