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| Started by | HGW <hw@...> |
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| First post | 2016-02-09 12:27 +1100 |
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A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-09 12:27 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 13:22 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-08 23:03 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 08:01 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-09 18:43 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-09 19:42 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 08:19 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Heiðr Einherjar <einherjar@notformail.org> - 2016-02-09 16:52 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 12:34 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-10 08:52 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Heiðr Einherjar <einherjar@notformail.org> - 2016-02-10 15:15 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-09 11:02 -0600
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 12:40 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-09 22:06 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 13:43 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 23:33 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 08:02 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-10 18:22 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-10 09:06 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 20:02 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-10 20:05 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 01:08 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 04:51 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-10 22:50 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 15:13 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 00:17 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 08:09 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-10 22:54 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 17:15 -0600
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-10 23:58 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 22:58 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 05:18 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-11 13:30 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-11 13:31 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-11 00:31 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-09 20:23 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-09 20:24 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-09 20:27 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-10 20:07 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 09:41 -0600
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:06 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-14 04:51 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 15:53 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 08:16 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-14 08:26 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 17:46 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-14 08:50 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-15 18:40 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-17 09:18 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 23:08 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 17:48 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 10:02 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 20:54 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 18:07 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-16 15:30 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 23:57 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-17 00:09 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 00:44 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-19 08:08 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 16:45 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-19 19:57 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-19 11:34 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-20 08:42 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-19 06:55 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 07:23 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 10:22 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 05:17 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 19:50 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-22 07:03 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-23 20:09 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-23 05:33 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-23 05:57 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-15 18:43 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-15 17:48 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-15 16:32 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 02:36 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 03:29 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 04:15 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 05:11 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 05:47 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 05:15 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 05:39 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 06:55 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 07:01 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 07:44 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-16 15:47 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-16 18:12 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 09:27 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-16 18:54 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 10:27 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-16 20:09 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 11:26 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-16 20:31 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-16 21:01 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-16 15:35 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 07:43 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Celine Desiree Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 20:50 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-16 13:44 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-16 22:59 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 19:33 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-17 09:26 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:38 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-17 07:34 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-17 17:49 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-17 13:07 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-18 16:11 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-18 08:29 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-20 09:06 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 11:53 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 10:38 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-17 18:43 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 11:38 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-18 15:40 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-18 16:13 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 23:17 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-19 19:54 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-19 11:30 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 02:36 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 05:43 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-20 09:11 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-20 12:06 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-20 18:46 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 19:02 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-21 08:51 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-21 09:26 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 10:46 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-21 12:49 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-02-21 20:06 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-21 23:13 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-23 20:06 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-23 12:01 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-23 10:08 -0600
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-23 20:10 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-24 09:36 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-23 20:14 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-24 09:39 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-23 23:03 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-02 09:31 +0000
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-24 09:31 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-23 17:43 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-23 18:29 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-24 10:03 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-25 20:08 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-25 16:40 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-26 08:16 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-26 10:19 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-27 08:21 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-27 09:40 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-28 10:00 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-28 09:37 +0100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 08:28 -0600
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-21 05:57 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-23 20:11 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-23 05:37 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-23 05:40 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-24 09:42 +1100
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-23 15:15 -0800
Re: A Short Essay on Time and Clocks HGW <hw@...> - 2016-02-25 20:13 +1100
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 10:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n9pg3g$7qq$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #376169 |
Użytkownik "Tom Roberts" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:Kp-dnXqJvMMI0yLLnZ2dnUU7_82dnZ2d@giganews.com... |used. Note also that it is an experimental fact that good clocks moving relative |to each others' rest frames do not remain in sync with each other. A lie, as expected from a relativistic trash. They do, check at GPS.
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 04:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <89b5d73d-e44c-47bb-b238-915f77b2acd6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376199 |
On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 2:06:58 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "Tom Roberts" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:Kp-dnXqJvMMI0yLLnZ2dnUU7_82dnZ2d@giganews.com... > > > > Note also that it is an experimental fact that good clocks moving > > relative to each others' rest frames do not remain in sync with each > > other. > > A lie, as expected from a relativistic trash. Wozniak is a nasty, vituperative person as evidenced by this post. > They do, check at GPS. They don't. Check the WHOLE background of the GPS: http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog9/node9.html "At the time of launch of the first NTS-2 satellite (June 1977), which contained the first Cesium clock to be placed in orbit, there were some who doubted that relativistic effects were real." (Such as Wozniak) "A frequency synthesizer was built into the satellite clock system so that after launch, if in fact the rate of the clock in its final orbit was that predicted by GR, then the synthesizer could be turned on bringing the clock to the coordinate rate necessary for operation. The atomic clock was first operated for about 20 days to measure its clock rate before turning on the synthesizer. The frequency measured during that interval was +442.5 parts in 10^12 faster than clocks on the ground; if left uncorrected this would have resulted in timing errors of about 38,000 nanoseconds per day. The difference between predicted and measured values of the frequency shift was only 3.97 parts in 10^12, well, within the accuracy capabilities of the orbiting clock. This then gave about a 1% validation of the combined motional and gravitational shifts for a clock at 4.2 earth radii." (Which refutes Wozniak's unfounded assertions and proves he is an unrepentant lying weasel) http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/aluminum-atomic-clock_092310.cfm "Scientists have known for decades that time passes faster at higher elevations—a curious aspect of Einstein's theories of relativity that previously has been measured by comparing clocks on the Earth's surface and a high-flying rocket." "Now, physicists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have measured this effect at a more down-to-earth scale of 33 centimeters, or about 1 foot" Which refutes Wozniak's spitting, hissing, screaming lies. He is what you'd call a dead liar typing.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 15:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n9q4ch$r7m$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #376209 |
Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:89b5d73d-e44c-47bb-b238-915f77b2acd6@googlegroups.com... On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 2:06:58 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "Tom Roberts" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:Kp-dnXqJvMMI0yLLnZ2dnUU7_82dnZ2d@giganews.com... > > > > Note also that it is an experimental fact that good clocks moving > > relative to each others' rest frames do not remain in sync with each > > other. > They do, check at GPS. |They don't. Check the WHOLE background of the GPS: One hasn't to check the whole background at this case. To check clocks is enough. They're in sync, and you both are lying, as expected from relativistic trash.
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| From | paparios <paparios@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 08:16 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <552fc32d-16a5-4f50-87cf-0066060389ff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376212 |
El domingo, 14 de febrero de 2016, 11:53:07 (UTC-3), Maciej Woźniak escribió: > Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:89b5d73d-e44c-47bb-b238-915f77b2acd6@googlegroups.com... > > On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 2:06:58 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > Użytkownik "Tom Roberts" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:Kp-dnXqJvMMI0yLLnZ2dnUU7_82dnZ2d@giganews.com... > > > > > > Note also that it is an experimental fact that good clocks moving > > > relative to each others' rest frames do not remain in sync with each > > > other. > > > They do, check at GPS. > > |They don't. Check the WHOLE background of the GPS: > > One hasn't to check the whole background > at this case. > To check clocks is enough. They're in sync, > and you both are lying, as expected from > relativistic trash. Yeah, according to the Polish troll, t'=t, that is 1/t'=1/t, that is 1/t'=10.2299999354 MHz =10.23 MHz=1/t. Go figure his mental state!!!!
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| From | David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 08:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <498b08ae-36d9-48a9-9a8f-4955c0e95b64@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376216 |
On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 9:16:45 AM UTC-7, paparios wrote: > El domingo, 14 de febrero de 2016, 11:53:07 (UTC-3), Maciej Woźniak escribió: > > Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:89b5d73d-e44c-47bb-b238-915f77b2acd6@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 2:06:58 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > > > Użytkownik "Tom Roberts" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:Kp-dnXqJvMMI0yLLnZ2dnUU7_82dnZ2d@giganews.com... > > > > > > > > Note also that it is an experimental fact that good clocks moving > > > > relative to each others' rest frames do not remain in sync with each > > > > other. > > > > > They do, check at GPS. > > > > |They don't. Check the WHOLE background of the GPS: > > > > One hasn't to check the whole background > > at this case. > > To check clocks is enough. They're in sync, > > and you both are lying, as expected from > > relativistic trash. > > Yeah, according to the Polish troll, t'=t, that is 1/t'=1/t, that is 1/t'=10.2299999354 MHz =10.23 MHz=1/t. Go figure his mental state!!!! I'm fairly sure his mental state is called racism, and that's what motivates anti-relativity cranks like him. I mean sense all of the predictions of relativity have always been correct, it can't be anything rational that motivates them.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 17:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n9qb0m$23v$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #376218 |
Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:498b08ae-36d9-48a9-9a8f-4955c0e95b64@googlegroups.com... |I'm fairly sure his mental state is called racism, You're fairly sure and you're completely wrong. as usual. | I mean sense all of the predictions of relativity have always been correct A lie, as expected from relativistic trash.
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| From | David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 08:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <dd37a93a-4815-44d4-b747-3908f5b7208f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376219 |
On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 9:46:17 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:498b08ae-36d9-48a9-9a8f-4955c0e95b64@googlegroups.com... > > > |I'm fairly sure his mental state is called racism, > > You're fairly sure and you're completely wrong. > as usual. > > > > | I mean sense all of the predictions of relativity have always been correct > > A lie, as expected from relativistic trash. See, nothing rational, so I suspect your motivation is racism.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-02-15 18:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n9t2in$nu9$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #376221 |
Użytkownik "David Waite" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:dd37a93a-4815-44d4-b747-3908f5b7208f@googlegroups.com... > | I mean sense all of the predictions of relativity have always been > correct > > A lie, as expected from relativistic trash. |See, nothing rational, so I suspect your motivation is racism. When I argue an idiot, I have to descend to his level.
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| From | HGW <hw@...> |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 09:18 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <na077s$1r4c$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #376221 |
On 15/02/16 03:50, David Waite wrote: >> >> | I mean sense all of the predictions of relativity have always been correct >> >> A lie, as expected from relativistic trash. > > See, nothing rational, so I suspect your motivation is racism. Are you implying that Einstein's silly theory is supported by only one race?
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 23:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c543a6bd-4d8c-4974-ad20-d96a1b9b93c1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376367 |
W dniu wtorek, 16 lutego 2016 23:18:41 UTC+1 użytkownik HGW napisał: > On 15/02/16 03:50, David Waite wrote: > > >> > >> | I mean sense all of the predictions of relativity have always been correct > >> > >> A lie, as expected from relativistic trash. > > > > See, nothing rational, so I suspect your motivation is racism. > > Are you implying that Einstein's silly theory is supported by only one > race? No. He is implying The Shit is SUPER!!!!! And it is SUPER!!!! And whoever criticize it is a FUCKEN RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 17:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n9qb46$2bf$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #376216 |
Użytkownik "paparios" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:552fc32d-16a5-4f50-87cf-0066060389ff@googlegroups.com... El domingo, 14 de febrero de 2016, 11:53:07 (UTC-3), Maciej Woźniak escribió: > Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:89b5d73d-e44c-47bb-b238-915f77b2acd6@googlegroups.com... > > On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 2:06:58 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > Użytkownik "Tom Roberts" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:Kp-dnXqJvMMI0yLLnZ2dnUU7_82dnZ2d@giganews.com... > > > > > > Note also that it is an experimental fact that good clocks moving > > > relative to each others' rest frames do not remain in sync with each > > > other. > > > They do, check at GPS. > > |They don't. Check the WHOLE background of the GPS: > > One hasn't to check the whole background > at this case. > To check clocks is enough. They're in sync, > and you both are lying, as expected from > relativistic trash. |Yeah, according to the Polish troll, According to Polish troll, they're in sync. And any documentation of GPS supports me, and denies moronic lies of various relativistic trash.
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| From | paparios <paparios@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 10:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <abf64402-cb3e-4b1a-8137-0d3afa2a6211@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376220 |
El domingo, 14 de febrero de 2016, 13:48:07 (UTC-3), Maciej Woźniak escribió: > Użytkownik "paparios" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:552fc32d-16a5-4f50-87cf-0066060389ff@googlegroups.com... > > El domingo, 14 de febrero de 2016, 11:53:07 (UTC-3), Maciej Woźniak > escribió: > > Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:89b5d73d-e44c-47bb-b238-915f77b2acd6@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 2:06:58 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > > > Użytkownik "Tom Roberts" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:Kp-dnXqJvMMI0yLLnZ2dnUU7_82dnZ2d@giganews.com... > > > > > > > > Note also that it is an experimental fact that good clocks moving > > > > relative to each others' rest frames do not remain in sync with each > > > > other. > > > > > They do, check at GPS. > > > > |They don't. Check the WHOLE background of the GPS: > > > > One hasn't to check the whole background > > at this case. > > To check clocks is enough. They're in sync, > > and you both are lying, as expected from > > relativistic trash. > > |Yeah, according to the Polish troll, > > According to Polish troll, they're in sync. > And any documentation of GPS supports me, and > denies moronic lies of various relativistic trash. Show specifically which GPS document says t'=t.
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| From | Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 20:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9qpht$1fbk$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #376225 |
paparios wrote: >> And any documentation of GPS supports me, and denies moronic lies of >> various relativistic trash. > > Show specifically which GPS document says t'=t. He is correct, if satellites are in synch no relativity correction is necessary. Glonass, need no corrections. It just works.
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| From | paparios <paparios@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-14 18:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8f9ab60b-93ef-4636-9579-d30fa4f10ae4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376234 |
El domingo, 14 de febrero de 2016, 17:54:28 (UTC-3), Céline Desirée escribió: > paparios wrote: > > >> And any documentation of GPS supports me, and denies moronic lies of > >> various relativistic trash. > > > > Show specifically which GPS document says t'=t. > > He is correct, if satellites are in synch no relativity correction is > necessary. Glonass, need no corrections. It just works. So you the nymshifting troll knows where the GPS documents says t'=t?
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| From | Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 15:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9vfa0$fo2$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #376248 |
paparios wrote: >> > Show specifically which GPS document says t'=t. >> >> He is correct, if satellites are in synch no relativity correction is >> necessary. Glonass, need no corrections. It just works. > > So you the nymshifting troll knows where the GPS documents says t'=t? Everywhere. That's what synchronization is all about. You wannabes half- engineers relativists around here are not getting it, as it is written, they have eyes but they can't read.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 23:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <80e8565c-2198-4b16-a9fc-4f54246ed4b0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376234 |
On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-6, Céline Desirée wrote: > paparios wrote: > > >> And any documentation of GPS supports me, and denies moronic lies of > >> various relativistic trash. > > > > Show specifically which GPS document says t'=t. > > He is correct, if satellites are in synch no relativity correction is > necessary. Glonass, need no corrections. It just works. In terms of clocks being unable to absolutely synchronize- can we assume that the standard of these measures are slightly probabilistic?
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 00:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <261fbd10-0ebd-4067-a719-b70fd78107c9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376393 |
W dniu środa, 17 lutego 2016 08:57:10 UTC+1 użytkownik John Gogo napisał: > > He is correct, if satellites are in synch no relativity correction is > > necessary. Glonass, need no corrections. It just works. > > In terms of clocks being unable to absolutely synchronize- can we assume that the standard of these measures are slightly probabilistic? We can assume what we wish; we can assume wisely or stupidly. Great Guru, for instance, assumed that good clocks are unsynchronized clocks. Poor idiot.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 00:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <12b0eb3d-0062-417a-b6c5-bddf6d6a70f5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376394 |
On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:09:07 AM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote: > W dniu środa, 17 lutego 2016 08:57:10 UTC+1 użytkownik John Gogo napisał: > > > > > He is correct, if satellites are in synch no relativity correction is > > > necessary. Glonass, need no corrections. It just works. > > > > In terms of clocks being unable to absolutely synchronize- can we assume that the standard of these measures are slightly probabilistic? > > We can assume what we wish; we can assume wisely or stupidly. > Great Guru, for instance, assumed that good clocks are > unsynchronized clocks. Poor idiot. Yes, I choose the word synchronized and everything starts from there. It doesn't matter to me how extrapolated they are as long as their stream is seamless.
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| From | HGW <hw@...> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 08:08 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <na5bt8$11po$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #376396 |
On 17/02/16 19:44, John Gogo wrote: > On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:09:07 AM UTC-6, mlwo...@wp.pl > wrote: >> W dniu środa, 17 lutego 2016 08:57:10 UTC+1 użytkownik John Gogo >> napisał: >> >> >>>> He is correct, if satellites are in synch no relativity >>>> correction is necessary. Glonass, need no corrections. It just >>>> works. >>> >>> In terms of clocks being unable to absolutely synchronize- can we >>> assume that the standard of these measures are slightly >>> probabilistic? >> >> We can assume what we wish; we can assume wisely or stupidly. Great >> Guru, for instance, assumed that good clocks are unsynchronized >> clocks. Poor idiot. > > Yes, I choose the word synchronized and everything starts from there. > It doesn't matter to me how extrapolated they are as long as their > stream is seamless. Clocks are either absolutely synchronized or not synchronized at all. There is no other condition. GPS clocks are absolutely synchronized. If they were not, the system would not work very well.
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 16:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <55dfc36e-d039-4b9e-99f7-837ea427e819@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #376493 |
On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 2:09:03 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote: > > Clocks are either absolutely synchronized or not synchronized at all. > There is no other condition. This shows that "Wilson" is unstuck from reality. There is no such thing as "absolutely synchronized" clocks, but there are clocks which are close enough for the task at hand. > GPS clocks are absolutely synchronized. Hahahaha! Only a blithering idiot would say this :-)) > If they were not, the system would not work very well. GPS clocks are synchronized to within a few tens of nanoseconds: http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html "To achieve this level of precision, the clock ticks from the GPS satellites must be known to an accuracy of 20-30 nanoseconds. However, because the satellites are constantly moving relative to observers on the Earth, effects predicted by the Special and General theories of Relativity must be taken into account to achieve the desired 20-30 nanosecond accuracy." So according to "Wilson" the "system would not work very well" :-))))
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