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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox

Started byTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
First post2015-07-28 20:16 -0500
Last post2015-07-29 20:16 -0700
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  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-28 20:16 -0500
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2015-07-28 19:16 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-07-28 19:20 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2015-07-28 19:23 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-07-28 20:44 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 13:59 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 14:20 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 00:53 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 09:28 -0500
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 01:03 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2015-07-30 08:19 +0200
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-28 19:46 -0700
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-29 23:20 +0200
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 01:07 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 09:30 -0500
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-30 16:28 +0200
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-31 19:46 -0500
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-31 19:52 -0500
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 18:02 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-02 10:01 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 12:03 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-03 23:36 +0200
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 15:35 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-04 16:38 +0200
                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 11:53 -0700
                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-04 21:54 +0200
                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-04 14:53 -0700
                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 16:28 +0200
                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:33 -0700
                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 17:10 +0200
                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 15:51 +0000
                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:01 -0700
                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 18:16 +0200
                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 16:22 +0000
                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:47 -0700
                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 19:13 +0200
                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:18 -0700
                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 19:29 +0200
                                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
                                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 19:51 +0200
                                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:59 -0700
                                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 20:07 +0200
                                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:28 -0700
                                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 23:22 +0200
                                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:45 -0700
                                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 16:41 +0200
                                                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:11 -0700
                                                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 20:25 +0200
                                                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:56 -0700
                                                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:06 +0200
                                                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:26 +0200
                                                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:34 -0700
                                                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:47 +0200
                                                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 15:27 -0500
                                                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 13:36 -0700
                                                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 23:05 +0200
                                                                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 14:53 -0700
                                                                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 17:59 -0700
                                                                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 18:21 -0700
                                                                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-08-06 18:34 -0700
                                                                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 00:17 -0700
                                                                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-07 16:32 +0200
                                                                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 11:36 -0700
                                                                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-07 21:49 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 16:05 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-08 19:31 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-08 19:52 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 11:40 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-08 22:05 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Emmerich Schultheiß <emme@noemail.thx> - 2015-08-08 18:04 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-08 06:09 -0700
                                                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 12:20 -0700
                                                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:35 +0200
                                                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:43 -0700
                                                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:48 +0200
                                                                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:59 -0700
                                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 20:12 +0200
                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-05 08:44 -0700
                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:10 -0700
                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 16:31 +0200
                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:00 -0700
                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 18:14 +0200
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-03 09:21 -0500
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-03 17:19 +0200
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-03 15:22 +0000
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 10:28 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 18:23 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 18:40 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 18:44 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 19:03 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:30 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:42 -0700
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:45 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:54 -0700
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 19:48 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:57 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:58 -0700
                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:03 -0700
                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:16 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 19:45 -0700
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:30 -0700
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:34 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:39 -0700
              Fresh from getting his ass kicked in a humiliation, Stephane Baune pretends to "teach" "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-07-31 19:55 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-31 20:48 -0500
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 18:53 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 21:15 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 03:49 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:00 -0500
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 10:48 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 14:23 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:10 -0700
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:30 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 15:54 -0700
                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 18:36 -0700
                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 22:54 -0700
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:59 -0700
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 16:10 -0500
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 19:51 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-02 10:14 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 17:56 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-04 12:41 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:39 -0700
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-04 17:06 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:29 -0700
                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-04 19:09 -0700
                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 20:56 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-04 19:52 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 20:48 -0700
                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-08 11:37 -0700
                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 11:45 -0700
                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-08 13:28 -0700
                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 14:10 -0700
                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-08 23:14 +0200
                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 15:20 -0700
                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-09 08:58 +0200
                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 17:55 -0700
                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-10 12:26 -0700
                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 14:31 -0700
                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-10 15:00 -0700
                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 15:33 -0700
                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-12 11:53 -0700
                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 13:10 -0700
                                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-14 10:29 -0700
                                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 10:50 -0700
                                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-14 12:50 -0700
                                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 12:59 -0700
                                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-15 16:02 -0700
                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 14:07 -0700
                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-08 23:13 +0200
                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-09 09:32 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-02 18:47 +0200
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-03 09:08 -0500
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-03 15:28 +0000
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-03 10:56 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:55 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-03 20:26 -0500
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 00:38 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-04 05:07 -0400
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 06:31 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-04 06:19 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 06:50 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:09 -0500
                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-04 07:17 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 07:25 -0700
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:48 -0500
                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:57 -0500
                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 06:07 -0700
                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:30 -0700
                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 08:49 -0700
                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:59 -0700
                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 12:19 -0700
                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:24 -0500
                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 17:59 -0700
                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:17 -0500
                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 18:54 -0700
                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-08-05 19:45 -0700
                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-05 21:14 +0200
                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:25 -0700
                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-05 21:52 -0500
                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:11 -0700
                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 17:49 -0700
                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-06 12:14 +0200
                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-06 14:18 +0200
                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-07 12:20 +0200
                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-08 06:52 -0700
                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-09 09:46 +0200
                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-09 07:27 -0700
                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-09 21:07 +0200
                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 09:20 -0500
                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-10 13:37 -0700
                                          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-11 13:15 +0200
                                            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-11 06:06 -0700
                                              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:46 -0700
                                                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-11 22:36 +0200
                                                  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-12 07:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 09:29 -0700
                                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-12 18:42 +0200
                                                      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-12 14:55 -0700
                                                        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:25 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-04 15:56 +0000
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:06 -0700
                  Stephane baune continues to puff himself "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-08-04 11:04 -0700
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-29 20:16 -0700

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#359546

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-03 12:03 -0700
Message-ID<38e66f42-cdfb-4a71-baa8-77f1275f802f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359430
On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 10:01:58 AM UTC-7, al...@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu niedziela, 2 sierpnia 2015 03:02:57 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 12:04:07 PM UTC-7, al...@interia.pl wrote:
> > > W dniu sobota, 1 sierpnia 2015 02:52:30 UTC+2 użytkownik tjrob137 napisał:
> > > > On 7/31/15 7/31/15   2:31 PM, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> > > > > W dniu piątek, 31 lipca 2015 20:19:56 UTC+2 użytkownik rotchm napisał:
> > > > >> On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:24:57 AM UTC-4, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > >>> Of course there is [a paradox]..., a paradox of causality: it is
> > > > >>> an immediate consequence of the symmetry of time dilation...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Show the math that supports your claim.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's given explicitly in the Lorentz transform:
> > > > > t' = f(t,x); and simultaneously,
> > > > > due to the imbecilic relativity principle: t = f(t',x');
> > > > 
> > > > That is true IN INERTIAL FRAMES. But these twins are NOT inertial, and you 
> > > > CANNOT simply apply the Lorentz transform. In addition you MUST examine what 
> > > > happens during their turnarounds (i.e. the periods when they are not moving 
> > > > inertially). Do that properly and you find that everything is self-consistent, 
> > > > different observers in different frames all come to IDENTICAL conclusions -- in 
> > > > this case the twins' clocks show the same elapsed proper time after they rejoin, 
> > > > and ALL observers agree on that.
> > > 
> > > Do not improvise so much... it's high over your abilities!
> > 
> > HAHAHAHA! The sheer _ease_ with which these guys say such things is hilarious!
> > 
> > --
> > Jan
> 
> Oh! Another genius revealed...

No, it's not any "genius", it's a simple question of having studied
something vs. not having studied something.

> btw. my grandmother has a great insight in this matter:
> she frequently repeat the sentence:
> it's very fortunate to us the idiots don't gather together in one place! :)

A cool saying :-) Unfortunately it doesn't apply to this NG.

> So, then tell me - you, the great genius in the noe-science:

I'm not any "genius", I simply studied something in great detail
that you did not. I'm sure there are things you have studied
that I did not, there is nothing particularly sinister about it.

> what type of transformation do you use in the case,
> the imbecile 137 mentioned,
> ie. what do you do, when your genuine Lorentz transform fails...
> due to the extraordinarily unexpected acceleration, or in any other case?

In any situation any observer can choose any coordinate system. One then
has to calculate the transformation corresponding to the given systems.
In the special case of both systems being inertial, the corresponding
transformation is always of a certain fixed type called "Lorentz
transformation".

There is no universal convention of choosing "best" coordinate system
for an accelerating observer, this has been already true in Newtonian
mechanics.

In the travelling twin case one choice of such system is the momentarily
co-moving inertial frames integrated along the trajectory. This is quite
artificial from the experimental POV but it does yield the stationary
twin's clock rate as observed by the travelling twin. One can then
easily calculate, for example, that the stationary twin's clock is
measured as time contracted (not dilated) by the factor of gamma.

In other contexts people may prefer different coordinates. In the end
they all are man-made constructs (information-gathering devices).
Physically we have different total elapsed times due to the geometry.

Please don't start the question whether geometry can be used as a
model in physics, this is a philosophical question, not a scientific
one (nothing wrong with that question, it simply concerns a different
domain of knowledge).

--
Jan

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#359568

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-08-03 23:36 +0200
Message-ID<mpomts$o52$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#359546

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:38e66f42-cdfb-4a71-baa8-77f1275f802f@googlegroups.com...

|In any situation any observer can choose any coordinate system. One then
|has to calculate the transformation corresponding to the given systems.
|In the special case of both systems being inertial, the corresponding
|transformation is always of a certain fixed type called "Lorentz
|transformation".

Remember though, that you're not describing real observers
and real coordinate systems. You describe "certain abstract
(mostly mathematical) models of what you consider phenomenal
reality".
And, unfortunately, what you consider phenomenal raeality is
notging, but your moronic imagination. 

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#359574

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-03 15:35 -0700
Message-ID<b9d18662-7cec-4d69-b073-3642d1bd3554@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359568
On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:37:02 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:38e66f42-cdfb-4a71-baa8-77f1275f802f@googlegroups.com...
> 
> |In any situation any observer can choose any coordinate system. One then
> |has to calculate the transformation corresponding to the given systems.
> |In the special case of both systems being inertial, the corresponding
> |transformation is always of a certain fixed type called "Lorentz
> |transformation".
> 
> Remember though, that you're not describing real observers
> and real coordinate systems. You describe "certain abstract
> (mostly mathematical) models of what you consider phenomenal
> reality".

Nevertheless, this is how physics has always been done, beginning
with Newton and e.g. his "point mass" which is likewise "certain
abstract (mostly mathematical) model". This sort of thing is not
considered a defect in natural sciences.

If you have a different philosophical concept of science than
everyone else that's perfectly fine with me, just say so at the
beginning so everyone knows that you operate under very different
set of assumptions.

> And, unfortunately, what you consider phenomenal raeality is
> notging, but your moronic imagination.

Calling people names will not endear anyone to your philosophy,
even if it was one worth considering (I honestly cannot tell what
your philosophy is because you never posted anything but screams).

I'll say it again, publish a paper on the relevance of your theory
of models to physics. This would be an interesting contribution.

--
Jan

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#359616

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-08-04 16:38 +0200
Message-ID<mpqipj$h7q$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#359574

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:b9d18662-7cec-4d69-b073-3642d1bd3554@googlegroups.com...

> |In any situation any observer can choose any coordinate system. One then
> |has to calculate the transformation corresponding to the given systems.
> |In the special case of both systems being inertial, the corresponding
> |transformation is always of a certain fixed type called "Lorentz
> |transformation".
>
> Remember though, that you're not describing real observers
> and real coordinate systems. You describe "certain abstract
> (mostly mathematical) models of what you consider phenomenal
> reality".

|Nevertheless, this is how physics has always been done, beginning
|with Newton and e.g. his "point mass" which is likewise "certain
|abstract (mostly mathematical) model". This sort of thing is not
|considered a defect in natural sciences.

This sort of things is obvious in building models. But, unfortunately,
to work it requires a lot of common sense. When used without
common sense, it results with a useless shit. Such as your moronic
standard of clocks, for instance. Or your moronic interval you
don't even know, how to measure. Or other your singularities.

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#359634

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 11:53 -0700
Message-ID<537af927-6d20-4fbe-9c4f-2d7551fe1633@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359616
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:38:46 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:b9d18662-7cec-4d69-b073-3642d1bd3554@googlegroups.com...
> 
> > |In any situation any observer can choose any coordinate system. One then
> > |has to calculate the transformation corresponding to the given systems.
> > |In the special case of both systems being inertial, the corresponding
> > |transformation is always of a certain fixed type called "Lorentz
> > |transformation".
> >
> > Remember though, that you're not describing real observers
> > and real coordinate systems. You describe "certain abstract
> > (mostly mathematical) models of what you consider phenomenal
> > reality".
> 
> |Nevertheless, this is how physics has always been done, beginning
> |with Newton and e.g. his "point mass" which is likewise "certain
> |abstract (mostly mathematical) model". This sort of thing is not
> |considered a defect in natural sciences.
> 
> This sort of things is obvious in building models. But, unfortunately,
> to work it requires a lot of common sense. When used without
> common sense, it results with a useless shit.

Define "common sense".

> Such as your moronic
> standard of clocks, for instance. Or your moronic interval you
> don't even know, how to measure. Or other your singularities.

Well, if that's the totality of your argument then I'd say you
are wasting time on a Fata Morgana.

--
Jan

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#359638

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-08-04 21:54 +0200
Message-ID<mpr59a$4tm$1@node1.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#359634

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:537af927-6d20-4fbe-9c4f-2d7551fe1633@googlegroups.com...

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:38:46 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:b9d18662-7cec-4d69-b073-3642d1bd3554@googlegroups.com...
>
> > |In any situation any observer can choose any coordinate system. One 
> > then
> > |has to calculate the transformation corresponding to the given systems.
> > |In the special case of both systems being inertial, the corresponding
> > |transformation is always of a certain fixed type called "Lorentz
> > |transformation".
> >
> > Remember though, that you're not describing real observers
> > and real coordinate systems. You describe "certain abstract
> > (mostly mathematical) models of what you consider phenomenal
> > reality".
>
> |Nevertheless, this is how physics has always been done, beginning
> |with Newton and e.g. his "point mass" which is likewise "certain
> |abstract (mostly mathematical) model". This sort of thing is not
> |considered a defect in natural sciences.
>
> This sort of things is obvious in building models. But, unfortunately,
> to work it requires a lot of common sense. When used without
> common sense, it results with a useless shit.

|Define "common sense".

Gladly, after you define "define".


> Such as your moronic
> standard of clocks, for instance. Or your moronic interval you
> don't even know, how to measure. Or other your singularities.

|Well, if that's the totality of your argument then I'd say you
|are wasting time on a Fata Morgana.

Of course you would say. You a re a poor, brainwashed  idiot,
able only to shout "those who not applaud our Ingenious Shit,
are
STUPID!!!!!"
Exactly as expected from a relativistic moron.

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#359658

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2015-08-04 14:53 -0700
Message-ID<90f0f71b-f3c7-4ccb-9d3b-f6d1f25ba803@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359638
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 1:54:20 PM UTC-6, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:537af927-6d20-4fbe-9c4f-2d7551fe1633@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > This sort of things is obvious in building models. But, unfortunately,
> > > to work it requires a lot of common sense. When used without
> > > common sense, it results with a useless shit.
> >
> > Define "common sense".
> 
> Gladly, after you define "define".

Wanker Wozniak passes the buck again because he is a clueless loser.  Best
definition of "common sense":

“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen”
 -- Albert Einstein 

> Of course you would say. You a re a poor, brainwashed  idiot,
> able only to shout "those who not applaud our Ingenious Shit,
> are STUPID!!!!!"
> Exactly as expected from a relativistic moron.

Wiped-out Wozniak intentionally describes himself.  Well, actually, there
is nothing "relativistic" about his being a moron :-))

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#359701

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-08-05 16:28 +0200
Message-ID<mpt6hp$39g$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#359658

Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:90f0f71b-f3c7-4ccb-9d3b-f6d1f25ba803@googlegroups.com...

|Wanker Wozniak passes the buck again because he is a clueless loser.  Best
|definition of "common sense":
|“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen”
| -- Albert Einstein

Unfortunately, your poor idiot guru didn't noticed, that
"lack of common sense" and "stupidity" - are just two
different names of the same thing.
He was never good at common language and its rules.

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#359704

Frompaparios <paparios@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 07:33 -0700
Message-ID<61b6dba6-f76e-40f9-9be4-8b3a2f9ed756@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359701
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:90f0f71b-f3c7-4ccb-9d3b-f6d1f25ba803@googlegroups.com...
> 
> |Wanker Wozniak passes the buck again because he is a clueless loser.  Best
> |definition of "common sense":
> |“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen”
> | -- Albert Einstein
> 
> Unfortunately, your poor idiot guru didn't noticed, that
> "lack of common sense" and "stupidity" - are just two
> different names of the same thing.
> He was never good at common language and its rules.

Nor he needed to be good at common language, since he was a scientist and as a scientist he used the language of science, which you poor ignorant moron troll totally are unable to use.

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#359707

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-08-05 17:10 +0200
Message-ID<mpt916$ae5$1@node1.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#359704

Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:61b6dba6-f76e-40f9-9be4-8b3a2f9ed756@googlegroups.com...

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:90f0f71b-f3c7-4ccb-9d3b-f6d1f25ba803@googlegroups.com...
>
> |Wanker Wozniak passes the buck again because he is a clueless loser. 
> Best
> |definition of "common sense":
> |“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen”
> | -- Albert Einstein
>
> Unfortunately, your poor idiot guru didn't noticed, that
> "lack of common sense" and "stupidity" - are just two
> different names of the same thing.
> He was never good at common language and its rules.

|Nor he needed to be good at common language, since he was a scientist
| and as a scientist he used the language of science

Thus, he became an incredible idiot, putting his idiocy on his
banner and being proud of it.  But, why to worry? There is no
such term in the brilliant language of science, so his
fellow idiots simply can't notice he was one.

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#359713

FromBohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net>
Date2015-08-05 15:51 +0000
Message-ID<mptbe9$7jd$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#359704
paparios wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup
>> dyskusyjnych:90f0f71b-f3c7-4ccb-9d3b-f6d1f25ba803@googlegroups.com...
>> 
>> |Wanker Wozniak passes the buck again because he is a clueless loser. 
>> Best |definition of "common sense":
>> |“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age
>> eighteen”
>> | -- Albert Einstein
>> 
>> Unfortunately, your poor idiot guru didn't noticed, that "lack of
>> common sense" and "stupidity" - are just two different names of the
>> same thing.
>> He was never good at common language and its rules.
> 
> Nor he needed to be good at common language, since he was a scientist
> and as a scientist he used the language of science, which you poor
> ignorant moron troll totally are unable to use.

What makes a scientist a scientist? What exactly tells you that he was a 
scientist? Are you a scientist?

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#359719

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 09:01 -0700
Message-ID<802d84c1-2996-48e7-adbb-7bad2338e372@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359713
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 8:51:41 AM UTC-7, Bohuš Matuška wrote:
> paparios wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> >> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> >> dyskusyjnych:90f0f71b-f3c7-4ccb-9d3b-f6d1f25ba803@googlegroups.com...
> >> 
> >> |Wanker Wozniak passes the buck again because he is a clueless loser. 
> >> Best |definition of "common sense":
> >> |“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age
> >> eighteen”
> >> | -- Albert Einstein
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately, your poor idiot guru didn't noticed, that "lack of
> >> common sense" and "stupidity" - are just two different names of the
> >> same thing.
> >> He was never good at common language and its rules.
> > 
> > Nor he needed to be good at common language, since he was a scientist
> > and as a scientist he used the language of science, which you poor
> > ignorant moron troll totally are unable to use.
> 
> What makes a scientist a scientist?

If he can be falsified, he is a scientist :-)

--
Jan

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#359726

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-08-05 18:16 +0200
Message-ID<mptctt$9cj$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#359719

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:802d84c1-2996-48e7-adbb-7bad2338e372@googlegroups.com...

> What makes a scientist a scientist?

|If he can be falsified, he is a scientist :-)

Don't listen to this idiot. He knows some (not much)
about differential geometry (quite unfalsifiable BTW), but
he knows nothing about science. 

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#359729

FromBohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net>
Date2015-08-05 16:22 +0000
Message-ID<mptd83$aij$4@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#359719
JanPB wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 8:51:41 AM UTC-7, Bohuš Matuška wrote:
>> paparios wrote:
>> 
>> > On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak
>> > wrote:
>> >> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup
>> >> dyskusyjnych:90f0f71b-f3c7-4ccb-9d3b-f6d1f25ba803@googlegroups.com...
>> >> 
>> >> |Wanker Wozniak passes the buck again because he is a clueless
>> >> loser.
>> >> Best |definition of "common sense":
>> >> |“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age
>> >> eighteen”
>> >> | -- Albert Einstein
>> >> 
>> >> Unfortunately, your poor idiot guru didn't noticed, that "lack of
>> >> common sense" and "stupidity" - are just two different names of the
>> >> same thing.
>> >> He was never good at common language and its rules.
>> > 
>> > Nor he needed to be good at common language, since he was a scientist
>> > and as a scientist he used the language of science, which you poor
>> > ignorant moron troll totally are unable to use.
>> 
>> What makes a scientist a scientist?
> 
> If he can be falsified, he is a scientist :-)

We agree, but I was merely alluding to the necessary prerequisites.

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#359735

Frompaparios <paparios@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 09:47 -0700
Message-ID<ef24861a-dcc2-4fde-98d3-bd270a451d91@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359713
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 12:51:41 PM UTC-3, Bohuš Matuška wrote:
> paparios wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> >> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> >> dyskusyjnych:90f0f71b-f3c7-4ccb-9d3b-f6d1f25ba803@googlegroups.com...
> >> 
> >> |Wanker Wozniak passes the buck again because he is a clueless loser. 
> >> Best |definition of "common sense":
> >> |“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age
> >> eighteen”
> >> | -- Albert Einstein
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately, your poor idiot guru didn't noticed, that "lack of
> >> common sense" and "stupidity" - are just two different names of the
> >> same thing.
> >> He was never good at common language and its rules.
> > 
> > Nor he needed to be good at common language, since he was a scientist
> > and as a scientist he used the language of science, which you poor
> > ignorant moron troll totally are unable to use.
> 
> What makes a scientist a scientist? What exactly tells you that he was a 
> scientist? Are you a scientist?

For sure , we know what makes a troll a troll. You are a perfect example of an obnoxious troll.

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#359738

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-08-05 19:13 +0200
Message-ID<mptg8q$com$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#359735

Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:ef24861a-dcc2-4fde-98d3-bd270a451d91@googlegroups.com...

|For sure , we know what makes a troll a troll. You are a perfect example of 
an obnoxious troll.

For sure, a troll is made a troll by not applauding The Ingenious Shit
of a relativistic moron.
Everybody knows. 

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#359739

Frompaparios <paparios@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 10:18 -0700
Message-ID<4479627e-aea4-40d3-bf84-d1037216cbf8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359738
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 2:14:03 PM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:ef24861a-dcc2-4fde-98d3-bd270a451d91@googlegroups.com...
> 
> |For sure , we know what makes a troll a troll. You are a perfect example of 
> an obnoxious troll.
> 
> For sure, a troll is made a troll by not applauding The Ingenious Shit
> of a relativistic moron.
> Everybody knows.

You are really way below that obnoxious measure. You have never ever written a single physics argument, less ever related to relativity.

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#359740

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-08-05 19:29 +0200
Message-ID<mpth58$dmp$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#359739

Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:4479627e-aea4-40d3-bf84-d1037216cbf8@googlegroups.com...

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 2:14:03 PM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:ef24861a-dcc2-4fde-98d3-bd270a451d91@googlegroups.com...
>
> |For sure , we know what makes a troll a troll. You are a perfect example 
> of
> an obnoxious troll.
>
> For sure, a troll is made a troll by not applauding The Ingenious Shit
> of a relativistic moron.
> Everybody knows.

|You are really way below that obnoxious measure. You have never ever 
written a single physics argument, less ever related to relativity.

I don't like to descend to the level of your moronic shit, but never -
is surely an exagerration.

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#359742

Frompaparios <paparios@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
Message-ID<5e3fd12e-7452-4e7e-8298-caecad8da16e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359740
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 2:29:13 PM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:4479627e-aea4-40d3-bf84-d1037216cbf8@googlegroups.com...
> 
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 2:14:03 PM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> > dyskusyjnych:ef24861a-dcc2-4fde-98d3-bd270a451d91@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > |For sure , we know what makes a troll a troll. You are a perfect example 
> > of
> > an obnoxious troll.
> >
> > For sure, a troll is made a troll by not applauding The Ingenious Shit
> > of a relativistic moron.
> > Everybody knows.
> 
> |You are really way below that obnoxious measure. You have never ever 
> written a single physics argument, less ever related to relativity.
> 
> I don't like to descend to the level of your moronic shit, but never -
> is surely an exagerration.

You know nothing about anything related to science, so you can not descend below your actual moronic state. For a simple start study what a metric is in science, then identify what part of that is related to relativity.

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#359743

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-08-05 19:51 +0200
Message-ID<mptifl$eui$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#359742

Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:5e3fd12e-7452-4e7e-8298-caecad8da16e@googlegroups.com...

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 2:29:13 PM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:4479627e-aea4-40d3-bf84-d1037216cbf8@googlegroups.com...
>
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 2:14:03 PM UTC-3, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > Użytkownik "paparios"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> > dyskusyjnych:ef24861a-dcc2-4fde-98d3-bd270a451d91@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > |For sure , we know what makes a troll a troll. You are a perfect 
> > example
> > of
> > an obnoxious troll.
> >
> > For sure, a troll is made a troll by not applauding The Ingenious Shit
> > of a relativistic moron.
> > Everybody knows.
>
> |You are really way below that obnoxious measure. You have never ever
> written a single physics argument, less ever related to relativity.
>
> I don't like to descend to the level of your moronic shit, but never -
> is surely an exagerration.

|You know nothing about anything related to science, so you can
|not descend below your actual moronic state. For a simple start
|study what a metric is in science, then identify what part of that
|is related to relativity.

I've done it many years ago.
So? 

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