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Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled.

Started byGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
First post2015-07-12 14:52 -0700
Last post2015-07-30 06:57 +1000
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  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-12 14:52 -0700
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2015-07-13 08:14 +0200
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-13 02:30 -0400
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-14 16:59 +0200
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 10:31 -0500
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-15 06:55 +1000
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-14 20:58 -0400
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. xxein1@att.net - 2015-07-14 18:36 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 23:14 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 00:01 -0700
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-14 19:46 +0000
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:23 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:39 +0000
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 13:19 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 13:49 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 17:19 +0200
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:13 -0700
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:20 +0000
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:26 -0700
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 18:38 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:30 -0700
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 22:36 +0200
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:40 -0700
                      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:01 +0200
                        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:09 -0700
                          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:20 +0200
                            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-17 08:12 +0200
                              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:46 -0700
                                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-17 09:15 +0200
                                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 14:50 -0700
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:38 +0000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 15:56 -0400
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:20 -0700
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 16:23 -0400
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 20:33 +0000
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:49 -0700
                      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 21:01 +0000
                        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:09 -0700
                          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 21:21 +0000
                      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:06 +0200
                        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:13 -0700
                          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:23 +0200
                            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-17 08:15 +0200
                              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:33 -0700
                            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:53 -0700
                              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:57 -0700
                                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 00:42 -0700
                              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 07:22 -0500
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-15 06:47 +1000
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. HW <hw@...> - 2015-07-15 07:16 +1000
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-16 20:26 +1000
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:20 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:34 +0000
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 18:36 +0200
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 15:59 -0400
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 22:06 +0200
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:20 -0700
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-16 21:22 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-16 21:28 -0700
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-16 21:40 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 15:55 -0400
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:35 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:33 -0700
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 22:56 +0200
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:03 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-18 09:23 +1000
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-19 08:04 +1000
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. xxein1@att.net - 2015-07-18 20:17 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-07-19 20:56 +0200
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-19 22:46 +0000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-22 05:43 +0000
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-23 08:43 +1000
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-23 08:08 -0500
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 17:46 -0500
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 15:54 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-07-23 16:50 -0700
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-23 17:20 -0700
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 20:49 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 12:02 -0500
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-07-25 12:00 -0700
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:35 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 12:46 -0500
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-07-25 11:58 -0700
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:34 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-26 02:10 +0000
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-07-24 14:15 +0200
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:44 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-28 08:19 +1000
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 17:45 -0500
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 06:52 +1000
                      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 16:37 -0500
                        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 07:56 +1000
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 16:10 -0700
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-07-28 10:40 +0200
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 06:40 +1000
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 16:35 -0500
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-29 02:35 +0000
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-07-25 10:47 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 13:19 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-25 23:48 +0200
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-07-26 12:17 -0700
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-07-30 13:16 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 22:16 -0700
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-02 11:24 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 23:54 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-26 20:42 -0700
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-28 08:23 +1000
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-28 08:29 +1000
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 16:26 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 07:40 +1000
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 16:42 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-30 07:05 +1000
                  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-01 19:50 +1000
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-03 04:54 +1000
                      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-10 18:33 +0000
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-03 05:22 +1000
                      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-02 14:23 -0700
                        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-03 20:03 +1000
                          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 05:38 -0700
                        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. HW@...(HG Wilson) - 2015-08-04 07:56 +1000
                          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 18:22 -0700
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 17:07 -0500
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:02 -0500
                      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:30 -0700
                    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-04 21:52 +0200
                      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 14:57 -0500
                        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-05 06:13 +1000
                          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:42 -0500
                          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-05 15:23 +0200
                            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-06 06:56 +1000
                              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-08-05 15:08 -0700
                              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-06 12:03 +0200
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 15:06 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-30 06:57 +1000

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#359583

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2015-08-03 18:22 -0700
Message-ID<35ef6bd7-7b6c-4d2e-b1db-0bfa4f5389ed@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359570
On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-6, HG Wilson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 14:23:31 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, so now you agree that the wavelength can change!  How clever of you to
> > finally admit that yet still blatantly deny reality.
> 
> It is not a conventional change. There is a change in absolute wavelength
> when photon accelerates.

It doesn't happen, pinhead.

> It is part of the world shattering ADoppler effect that I have personally
> discovered.

Hahahahahaha!!
 
> What great discoveries has an idiot like you ever come up with?. 

I discovered that baTh is a piece of shit.

> > According to your stupidly false BaTh, Babcock and Berman's moving glass
> > plates should have changed the speed of light to c + v.  It didn't happen.
> > BaTh is profoundly refuted.
> 
> Listen dopey, not one of these experiments directly measures light speed.

Completely and moronically irrelevant.  Your sorry attempt to pettifog
the issue proves that you are profoundly dishonest 

> It is all done with mirrors and interference patterns and every such
> experiment is riddled with so many assumptions and guesses that can
> provide just about any desired answer.

Complete lying bullshit.  But your variable star crap certainly fits that
description.  You are logic and rationality-challenged.

> > Bad things happen when ignorance and arrogance reside in the same person.
> >
> > Gary

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#359426

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-02 17:07 -0500
Message-ID<mpm4bn$bej$5@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#359308
On 8/1/2015 10:44 AM, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> Since Andro's passing Ralph has become totally unglued and will possibly never recover...
>

I agree. He's just kind of given up.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#359503

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-03 09:02 -0500
Message-ID<mpns8r$1fp$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#359308
On 8/1/2015 4:50 AM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
>> >Well, Henry, you're the solo one. So let's just let you continue your
>> >little game that you're the only sensible scientist in the world, shall we?
> Bodkin, there is not one good physicist in the world who has ever accepted
> Einstein's theory. Only ratbags and sciFi fanatics want to believe the
> nonsense.

Well, then, according to you there is only one good physicist in the 
world and that's you. So happy psychosis there, Henry.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#359557

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-03 13:30 -0700
Message-ID<514ab9f5-2e7c-4217-8aef-4821eb5015ba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359503
On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 7:02:06 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/1/2015 4:50 AM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> >> >Well, Henry, you're the solo one. So let's just let you continue your
> >> >little game that you're the only sensible scientist in the world, shall we?
> > Bodkin, there is not one good physicist in the world who has ever accepted
> > Einstein's theory. Only ratbags and sciFi fanatics want to believe the
> > nonsense.
> 
> Well, then, according to you there is only one good physicist in the 
> world and that's you. So happy psychosis there, Henry.
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

It always amount to just that with those dunces.

--
Jan

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#359637

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2015-08-04 21:52 +0200
Message-ID<mpr55o$k8r$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#359308
On 01.08.2015 11:50, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
>
> Bodkin, there is not one good physicist in the world who has ever accepted
> Einstein's theory. Only ratbags and sciFi fanatics want to believe the
> nonsense.
>

Ralph's "world" is a strange place where everything is
upside-down and inside-out. :-D

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#359640

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 14:57 -0500
Message-ID<mpr5fg$frd$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#359637
On 8/4/2015 2:52 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> On 01.08.2015 11:50, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
>>
>> Bodkin, there is not one good physicist in the world who has ever
>> accepted
>> Einstein's theory. Only ratbags and sciFi fanatics want to believe the
>> nonsense.
>>
>
> Ralph's "world" is a strange place where everything is
> upside-down and inside-out. :-D
>

Because the real world no longer has any appeal to Ralph. And he's very 
happy to tell you that nobody is ever going to convince him that the 
real world is better than his fantasy world.

What's interesting is when he says "we". I'm not sure if that's 
including imaginary friends or his dogs or what.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#359645

FromHenry Wilson DSc. <hw@....>
Date2015-08-05 06:13 +1000
Message-ID<no62sa59tlvmk15tnkpg4o33ss3qtl9j34@4ax.com>
In reply to#359640
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:57:38 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 8/4/2015 2:52 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> On 01.08.2015 11:50, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
>>>
>>> Bodkin, there is not one good physicist in the world who has ever
>>> accepted
>>> Einstein's theory. Only ratbags and sciFi fanatics want to believe the
>>> nonsense.
>>>
>>
>> Henry's "world" is a strange place where everything is
>> upside-down and inside-out. :-D
>>>
>Because the real world no longer has any appeal to Ralph. And he's very 
>happy to tell you that nobody is ever going to convince him that the 
>real world is better than his fantasy world.
>
>What's interesting is when he says "we". I'm not sure if that's 
>including imaginary friends or his dogs or what.

AAHHHHH! There's nothing less terrifying than the cry of the relativist
ratpack yelling and screaming in full battle gear. You know they will always
huddle together and start reciting their tattered little bible whenever a shot
are fired. No wonder their uniforms are all coloured yellow!  

__

Henry Wilson DSc.

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#359653

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 15:42 -0500
Message-ID<mpr84f$m8k$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#359645
On 8/4/2015 3:13 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:57:38 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/4/2015 2:52 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>> On 01.08.2015 11:50, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bodkin, there is not one good physicist in the world who has ever
>>>> accepted
>>>> Einstein's theory. Only ratbags and sciFi fanatics want to believe the
>>>> nonsense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Henry's "world" is a strange place where everything is
>>> upside-down and inside-out. :-D
>>>>
>> Because the real world no longer has any appeal to Ralph. And he's very
>> happy to tell you that nobody is ever going to convince him that the
>> real world is better than his fantasy world.
>>
>> What's interesting is when he says "we". I'm not sure if that's
>> including imaginary friends or his dogs or what.
>
> AAHHHHH! There's nothing less terrifying than the cry of the relativist
> ratpack yelling and screaming in full battle gear. You know they will always
> huddle together and start reciting their tattered little bible whenever a shot
> are fired. No wonder their uniforms are all coloured yellow!

And you are the lone Knight Templar, protecting the Sacred Science from 
the alien horde, the sole bastion crying out into your backyard: "Come 
at me, bra!"

>
> __
>
> Henry Wilson DSc.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#359694

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2015-08-05 15:23 +0200
Message-ID<mpt2oq$60d$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#359645
On 04.08.2015 22:13, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:57:38 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/4/2015 2:52 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>>> On 01.08.2015 11:50, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bodkin, there is not one good physicist in the world who has ever
>>>> accepted
>>>> Einstein's theory. Only ratbags and sciFi fanatics want to believe the
>>>> nonsense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Henry's "world" is a strange place where everything is
>>> upside-down and inside-out. :-D
>>
>> Because the real world no longer has any appeal to Ralph. And he's very
>> happy to tell you that nobody is ever going to convince him that the
>> real world is better than his fantasy world.
>>
>> What's interesting is when he says "we". I'm not sure if that's
>> including imaginary friends or his dogs or what.
>
> AAHHHHH!

There is nothing more amusing than the cry of
Ralph Malcom Rabbidge yelling and screaming in frustration. :-D

BTW Ralph.
A fully competent experimental physicist like you know
the importance of experiments in physics, don't you?

So I am sure you will appreciate experimental evidence like this:

https://paulba.no/paper/index.html

-- 
Paul, having fun

https://paulba.no/

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#359763

FromHenry Wilson DSc. <hw@....>
Date2015-08-06 06:56 +1000
Message-ID<61u4sapjj30va05u3tva3ia64foobhct67@4ax.com>
In reply to#359694
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:23:36 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
wrote:

>On 04.08.2015 22:13, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:

>>>
>>> What's interesting is when he says "we". I'm not sure if that's
>>> including imaginary friends or his dogs or what.
>>
>> AAHHHHH!
>
>There is nothing more amusing than the cry of
>Henry George Wilson yelling and screaming in frustration. :-D
>
>BTW Henry.
>A fully competent experimental physicist like you know
>the importance of experiments in physics, don't you?
>
>So I am sure you will appreciate experimental evidence like this:
>
>https://paulba.no/paper/index.html

ARRR! Not the silly list again!

__

Henry Wilson DSc.

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#359766

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2015-08-05 15:08 -0700
Message-ID<b3688433-b4e3-4a29-a26b-0357535ecdf5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#359763
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 1:56:45 PM UTC-7, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:23:36 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
> wrote:
> 
> >On 04.08.2015 22:13, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> 
> >>>
> >>> What's interesting is when he says "we". I'm not sure if that's
> >>> including imaginary friends or his dogs or what.
> >>
> >> AAHHHHH!
> >
> >There is nothing more amusing than the cry of
> >Henry George Wilson yelling and screaming in frustration. :-D
> >
> >BTW Henry.
> >A fully competent experimental physicist like you know
> >the importance of experiments in physics, don't you?
> >
> >So I am sure you will appreciate experimental evidence like this:
> >
> >https://paulba.no/paper/index.html
> 
> ARRR! Not the silly list again!
> 
> __
> 
> Henry Wilson DSc.

If you don't like it, quit spouting nonsense! Every time you touch your keyboard you appear to more desperate than the time before. 

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#359798

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2015-08-06 12:03 +0200
Message-ID<mpvbef$fqk$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#359763
On 05.08.2015 22:56, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:23:36 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen" wrote:
>
>> On 04.08.2015 22:13, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
>>>
>>> AAHHHHH!
>>
>> There is nothing more amusing than the cry of
>> Ralph Malcom Rabbidge yelling and screaming in frustration. :-D
>>
>> BTW Ralph:
>> A fully competent experimental physicist like you know
>> the importance of experiments in physics, don't you?
>>
>> So I am sure you will appreciate experimental evidence like this:
>>
>> https://paulba.no/paper/index.html
>
> ARRR! Not the silly list again!
>

There is nothing more amusing than the cry of
Ralph Malcom Rabbidge yelling and screaming in frustration
over the fact that he can't make the experimental evidence
go away by calling it silly. :-D

-- 
Paul, having more fun

https://paulba.no/

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#358943

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-28 15:06 -0700
Message-ID<d6cb0a4f-2b6c-4e95-90f0-445be2b2a8fc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#358932
On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 2:40:23 PM UTC-7, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 16:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 3:29:01 PM UTC-7, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> 
> >> >> What ''speed of light constancy'' is that? 
> >> >
> >> >You are apparently unaware that Einstein's 2nd postulate is NOT just a convention,
> >> >it has an actual _physically testable_ content. There has been no experiment to the
> >> >contrary (yet).
> >> 
> >> There has been no experiment in support either.
> >
> >All experiments so far showed synced clocks remain in sync.
> 
> So they should...and in all frames.

I'm afraid you still don't get it. Did you follow why the sound signals
fail the 2nd postulate? It's _not_ a question of just syncing clocks up
certain way and arranging the mathematical consequences accordingly.

> >> >For example, sound signals fail the 2nd postulate yet their speed is independent
> >> >of the speed of the source. Do you know why the difference?
> >> 
> >> So you have become an aetheirst now, eh?
> >
> >You didn't answer the question.
> 
> Light is not at all like sound.
> Only an aetherist would refer to it.

I never said it was. What I was saying was that IF the 2nd postulate were
what you think it is, THEN it would necessarily be true that clocks would
experience "acoustic time dilation", particle accelerators would have to
be corrected for "acoustic mass increase of the elementary particles",
etc.

> >> ...talking about waves in a medium.
> >
> >I used sound signals to point out to you the _difference_ between
> >them and light signals.
> 
> >> Most Einstein worshippers ARE,  deep down. It is the only way their silly
> >> second postuulate can physically operate.
> >
> >No, the standard thinking about it is that it's not aether (that idea is
> >dead and buried) but some structure of space which hasn't been modelled yet.
> >Then we'll understand better what exactly happens when light propagates.
> 
> I have already told you. Each 'photon' carries its own little bit of 'aether'
> until it coalesces with all the other little bits to form broad waves.

But this is:

1. irrelevant to this discussion (which is the 2nd postulate),
2. poetry.

[...]

> >But for now relativity is the best model we have.
> 
> Gawd! what a terrible suggestion. Einstein's version of relativity has
> achieved nothing because it is bogus,

Well, since you could not answer simple Newtonian mechanics question,
I fail to see any relevance of your opinions about physics to physics.

It's only a natural reaction, yes? Would you trust a financial advisor who is
himself permanently in the red?

[...]

--
Jan

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#359045

FromHenry Wilson DSc. <hw@....>
Date2015-07-30 06:57 +1000
Message-ID<h6fira14hc29g5tahgn5apbtku3s52urq3@4ax.com>
In reply to#358943
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT), JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 2:40:23 PM UTC-7, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:

>> >
>> >All experiments so far showed synced clocks remain in sync.
>> 
>> So they should...and in all frames.
>
>I'm afraid you still don't get it. Did you follow why the sound signals
>fail the 2nd postulate? It's _not_ a question of just syncing clocks up
>certain way and arranging the mathematical consequences accordingly.
>
>> >> >For example, sound signals fail the 2nd postulate yet their speed is independent
>> >> >of the speed of the source. Do you know why the difference?
>> >> 
>> >> So you have become an aetheirst now, eh?
>> >
>> >You didn't answer the question.
>> 
>> Light is not at all like sound.
>> Only an aetherist would refer to it.
>
>I never said it was. What I was saying was that IF the 2nd postulate were
>what you think it is, THEN it would necessarily be true that clocks would
>experience "acoustic time dilation", particle accelerators would have to
>be corrected for "acoustic mass increase of the elementary particles",
>etc.

Sorry, but I cannot make any sense of this message. You are just raving
incomprehensively.

>> >> ...talking about waves in a medium.
>> >
>> >I used sound signals to point out to you the _difference_ between
>> >them and light signals.
>> 
>> >> Most Einstein worshippers ARE,  deep down. It is the only way their silly
>> >> second postuulate can physically operate.
>> >
>> >No, the standard thinking about it is that it's not aether (that idea is
>> >dead and buried) but some structure of space which hasn't been modelled yet.
>> >Then we'll understand better what exactly happens when light propagates.
>> 
>> I have already told you. Each 'photon' carries its own little bit of 'aether'
>> until it coalesces with all the other little bits to form broad waves.
>
>But this is:
>
>1. irrelevant to this discussion (which is the 2nd postulate),
>2. poetry.
>
>[...]

It is very relevant to the real world.

>> >But for now relativity is the best model we have.
>> 
>> Gawd! what a terrible suggestion. Einstein's version of relativity has
>> achieved nothing because it is bogus,
>
>Well, since you could not answer simple Newtonian mechanics question,
>I fail to see any relevance of your opinions about physics to physics.

I could easily answer it if I wanted to waste time looking it up on the same
Wiki page where you found it. 

>It's only a natural reaction, yes? Would you trust a financial advisor who is
>himself permanently in the red?

Would I trust a raving idiot who managed to deceive the scientific world with
a stupid theory based on false logic? 

>[...]


__

Henry Wilson DSc.

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