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| Started by | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2015-07-12 14:52 -0700 |
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Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-12 14:52 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2015-07-13 08:14 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-13 02:30 -0400
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-14 16:59 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 10:31 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-15 06:55 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-14 20:58 -0400
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. xxein1@att.net - 2015-07-14 18:36 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 23:14 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 00:01 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-14 19:46 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:23 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:39 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 13:19 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 13:49 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 17:19 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:13 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:20 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:26 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 18:38 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:30 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 22:36 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:40 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:01 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:09 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:20 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-17 08:12 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:46 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-17 09:15 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 14:50 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:38 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 15:56 -0400
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:20 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 16:23 -0400
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 20:33 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:49 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 21:01 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:09 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 21:21 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:06 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:13 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:23 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-17 08:15 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:33 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:53 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:57 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 00:42 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 07:22 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-15 06:47 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. HW <hw@...> - 2015-07-15 07:16 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-16 20:26 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:20 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:34 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 18:36 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 15:59 -0400
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 22:06 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:20 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-16 21:22 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-16 21:28 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-16 21:40 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 15:55 -0400
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:35 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:33 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 22:56 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:03 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-18 09:23 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-19 08:04 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. xxein1@att.net - 2015-07-18 20:17 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-07-19 20:56 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-19 22:46 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-22 05:43 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-23 08:43 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-23 08:08 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 17:46 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 15:54 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-07-23 16:50 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-23 17:20 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 20:49 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 12:02 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-07-25 12:00 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:35 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 12:46 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-07-25 11:58 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:34 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-26 02:10 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-07-24 14:15 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:44 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-28 08:19 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 17:45 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 06:52 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 16:37 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 07:56 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 16:10 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-07-28 10:40 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 06:40 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 16:35 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-29 02:35 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-07-25 10:47 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 13:19 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-25 23:48 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-07-26 12:17 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-07-30 13:16 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 22:16 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-02 11:24 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 23:54 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-26 20:42 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-28 08:23 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-28 08:29 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 16:26 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 07:40 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 16:42 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-30 07:05 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-01 19:50 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-03 04:54 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-10 18:33 +0000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-03 05:22 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-02 14:23 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-03 20:03 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 05:38 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. HW@...(HG Wilson) - 2015-08-04 07:56 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 18:22 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 17:07 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:02 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:30 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-04 21:52 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 14:57 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-05 06:13 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:42 -0500
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-05 15:23 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-06 06:56 +1000
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-08-05 15:08 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-06 12:03 +0200
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 15:06 -0700
Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-30 06:57 +1000
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 14:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ea1b5c43-b403-4a34-a2d4-bfb3c6800e80@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357481 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:06:20 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:9ac9e910-a40c-4f9c-9f3a-7886d8ea100a@googlegroups.com... > > |The question was: consider the following metric tensor in the (x,y)-plane: > | ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2 > |It's obviously singular at x = 0. What is the nature of this > |singularity? > > It's nature is - it is imagined. > > | Can one cross from, say, the point (1,0) to (-1,0) ? > > Your imagination, your assumptions, whatever you say. Wow, you are even more gone than I thought. Not because you did not provide the answer (it's OK not to know something as long as you don't pretend) but because you felt obligated to post this comment. Do I really aggravate you so much? -- Jan
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 23:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mo97cj$v8q$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #357485 |
Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:ea1b5c43-b403-4a34-a2d4-bfb3c6800e80@googlegroups.com... On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:06:20 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:9ac9e910-a40c-4f9c-9f3a-7886d8ea100a@googlegroups.com... > > |The question was: consider the following metric tensor in the > (x,y)-plane: > | ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2 > |It's obviously singular at x = 0. What is the nature of this > |singularity? > > It's nature is - it is imagined. > > | Can one cross from, say, the point (1,0) to (-1,0) ? > > Your imagination, your assumptions, whatever you say. |Wow, you are even more gone than I thought. Not because you did not |provide the answer You asked about nature - I answerred about nature. Not my fault you can't understand.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2015-07-17 08:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <moa6hs$tbr$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #357491 |
W dniu 2015-07-17 o 00:06, JanPB pisze: > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:23:33 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: >> Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup >> dyskusyjnych:ea1b5c43-b403-4a34-a2d4-bfb3c6800e80@googlegroups.com... >> >> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:06:20 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: >>> Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup >>> dyskusyjnych:9ac9e910-a40c-4f9c-9f3a-7886d8ea100a@googlegroups.com... >>> >>> |The question was: consider the following metric tensor in the >>> (x,y)-plane: >>> | ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2 >>> |It's obviously singular at x = 0. What is the nature of this >>> |singularity? >>> >>> It's nature is - it is imagined. >>> >>> | Can one cross from, say, the point (1,0) to (-1,0) ? >>> >>> Your imagination, your assumptions, whatever you say. >> >> |Wow, you are even more gone than I thought. Not because you did not >> |provide the answer >> >> You asked about nature - I answerred about nature. Not my fault >> you can't understand. > > No, I didn't ask about any "nature". A really moronic lie. I asked: consider the following metric > tensor in the (x,y)-plane: > > ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2 > > It's obviously singular at x = 0. What is the nature of this singularity? > Can one cross from, say, the point (1,0) to (-1,0) ? So, you asked not about any "nature", but about "nature"? I see. > (The word "nature" has different meanings, you see.) Maybe you should remember it, when asking questions?
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 23:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <292d19a6-fba8-4bb1-a105-5551ff4445a3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357542 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:15:25 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > W dniu 2015-07-17 o 00:06, JanPB pisze: > > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:23:33 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > >> Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > >> dyskusyjnych:ea1b5c43-b403-4a34-a2d4-bfb3c6800e80@googlegroups.com... > >> > >> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:06:20 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > >>> Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > >>> dyskusyjnych:9ac9e910-a40c-4f9c-9f3a-7886d8ea100a@googlegroups.com... > >>> > >>> |The question was: consider the following metric tensor in the > >>> (x,y)-plane: > >>> | ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2 > >>> |It's obviously singular at x = 0. What is the nature of this > >>> |singularity? > >>> > >>> It's nature is - it is imagined. > >>> > >>> | Can one cross from, say, the point (1,0) to (-1,0) ? > >>> > >>> Your imagination, your assumptions, whatever you say. > >> > >> |Wow, you are even more gone than I thought. Not because you did not > >> |provide the answer > >> > >> You asked about nature - I answerred about nature. Not my fault > >> you can't understand. > > > > No, I didn't ask about any "nature". > > A really moronic lie. You are completely cuckoo now. I hope it's just your English. The word "nature" in my question simply means exactly the following: "is this a coordinate singularity or a manifold singularity"? > I asked: consider the following metric > > tensor in the (x,y)-plane: > > > > ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2 > > > > It's obviously singular at x = 0. What is the nature of this singularity? > > Can one cross from, say, the point (1,0) to (-1,0) ? > > So, you asked not about any "nature", but about "nature"? > I see. About the singularity's type. -- Jan
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| From | Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 23:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5b0cce64-992d-4885-9e28-d5748bc419f6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357491 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 3:06:07 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:23:33 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > You asked about nature - I answerred about nature. Not my fault > > you can't understand. > > No, I didn't ask about any "nature". I asked: consider the following metric > tensor in the (x,y)-plane: > > ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2 This question is so fvcking stupid. When Koobee Wublee’s baby girl was 11 months old, she asked why the moon changes its shape. Half a year later, her twin brother asked the same question. Koobee Wublee had to bring Himself down to their levels of understandings and answer the question. Nevertheless, Koobee Wublee thought that was a superb, excellent question for these children. When the boy was 10 years, he asked what 4 dimensions feel like. After all, he was very comfortable perceiving 3 dimensions. Needless to say, Koobee Wublee had to drop everything and answer the question so the kid would understand. Again, Jan’s question is just fvcking stupid. Jan the relativistic moron should have been exposed to what the Riemann, the Ricci, or the Einstein tensor looks like. All one has to do is to plug in the metric and the coordinate system to get the answer. The intellectual capacity of Jan the relativistic moron is no better off than an amoeba. However, Jan the relativistic moron is the only one that Koobee Wublee knows that can fly comfortably like flying squirrels. Perhaps, Jan the relativistic moron shares the same level of intelligence with flying squirrels. <shrug> > [rest of stupid rants snipped]
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 23:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fe33eeae-b486-4cf3-ac99-5fed7ec39fa9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357550 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:53:48 PM UTC-7, Koobee Wublee wrote: > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 3:06:07 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: > > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:23:33 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > You asked about nature - I answerred about nature. Not my fault > > > you can't understand. > > > > No, I didn't ask about any "nature". I asked: consider the following metric > > tensor in the (x,y)-plane: > > > > ds^2 = dx^2/x^4 + dy^2 > > This question is so fvcking stupid. When Koobee Wublee’s baby girl was 11 months old, she asked why the moon changes its shape. Half a year later, her twin brother asked the same question. Koobee Wublee had to bring Himself down to their levels of understandings and answer the question. Nevertheless, Koobee Wublee thought that was a superb, excellent question for these children. When the boy was 10 years, he asked what 4 dimensions feel like. After all, he was very comfortable perceiving 3 dimensions. Needless to say, Koobee Wublee had to drop everything and answer the question so the kid would understand. Again, Jan’s question is just fvcking stupid. Jan the relativistic moron should have been exposed to what the Riemann, the Ricci, or the Einstein tensor looks like. All one has to do is to plug in the metric and the coordinate system to get the answer. The intellectual capacity of Jan the relativistic moron is no better off than an amoeba. However, Jan the relativistic moron is the only one that Koobee Wublee knows that can fly comfortably like flying squirrels. Perhaps, Jan the relativistic moron shares the same level of intelligence with flying squirrels. <shrug> > > > [rest of stupid rants snipped] So does the above mean x = 0 is a coordinate singularity or no? :-) -- Jan
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| From | Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-17 00:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <39688291-97ed-4e63-8ec4-8d86767524db@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357553 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:57:22 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:53:48 PM UTC-7, Koobee Wublee wrote: > > This question is so fvcking stupid. When Koobee Wublee's baby girl was > > 11 months old, she asked why the moon changes its shape. Half a year > > later, her twin brother asked the same question. Koobee Wublee had to > > bring Himself down to their levels of understandings and answer the > > question. Nevertheless, Koobee Wublee thought that was a superb, > > excellent question for these children. When the boy was 10 years, he > > asked what 4 dimensions feel like. After all, he was very comfortable > > perceiving 3 dimensions. Needless to say, Koobee Wublee had to drop > > everything and answer the question so the kid would understand. Again, > > Jan's question is just fvcking stupid. Jan the relativistic moron > > should have been exposed to what the Riemann, the Ricci, or the > > Einstein tensor looks like. All one has to do is to plug in the metric > > and the coordinate system to get the answer. The intellectual capacity > > of Jan the relativistic moron is no better off than an amoeba. However, > > Jan the relativistic moron is the only one that Koobee Wublee knows > > that can fly comfortably like flying squirrels. Perhaps, Jan the > > relativistic moron shares the same level of intelligence with flying > > squirrels. <shrug> > > So does the above mean x = 0 is a coordinate singularity or no? :-) Does anyone care when a stupid question is asked? Well, Tom does. After all, Tom is so fvcking weak in mathematics that Koobee Wublee is so surprised that Tom was rewarded with a piled-higher-and-deeper degree from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Tom is desperate. Tom will just spread its legs for anyone that comes across Koobee Wublee, and this gave Jan the relativistic moron false incentives to carry on its pomp-and-circumstance march into oblivion of scientific graveyard. Well, that suits these buffoons. Neither of them has ever understood the scientific method. <shrug>
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-17 07:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <moas2l$57h$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #357550 |
On 7/17/2015 1:53 AM, Koobee Wublee wrote: > This question is so fvcking stupid. When Koobee Wublee’s baby girl was 11 months old, she asked > why the moon changes its shape. Half a year later, her twin brother asked the same question. > Koobee Wublee had to bring Himself down to their levels of understandings and answer the question. > Nevertheless, Koobee Wublee thought that was a superb, excellent question for these children. When > the boy was 10 years, he asked what 4 dimensions feel like. After all, he was very comfortable > perceiving 3 dimensions. Needless to say, Koobee Wublee had to drop everything and answer the question > so the kid would understand. Again, Jan’s question is just fvcking stupid. Jan the relativistic moron > should have been exposed to what the Riemann, the Ricci, or the Einstein tensor looks like. All one has > to do is to plug in the metric and the coordinate system to get the answer. The intellectual capacity > of Jan the relativistic moron is no better off than an amoeba. However, Jan the relativistic moron is > the only one that Koobee Wublee knows that can fly comfortably like flying squirrels. Perhaps, Jan the > relativistic moron shares the same level of intelligence with flying squirrels. <shrug> Oh dear, Koobee. You have worsened lately. Do you know about Eduard Einstein, Albert's second son? He was diagnosed as schizophrenic at the age of 20, spent time in and out of institutions until the death of his mother, after which he was permanently institutionalized and died of a stroke at the age of 55. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 06:47 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <1ksaqadp1f526rp0v4mn9igg1nm59t3gb3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #356907 |
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 23:05:50 -0500, Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 7/12/15 7/12/15 4:52 PM, Gary Harnagel wrote: >> On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 3:08:37 PM UTC-6, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote: >>> [... nothing o fsubstance] >> As I thought. You are ashamed to admit the truth so you do an ad hom. > >There _IS_ no "argument" about the application of GR to the GPS. This is a >matter of public record, which ANYBODY with the desire to look up the documents >can settle for themselves in a few minutes with Google and a browser. There is no argument about the fact that it doesn't matter what frequency is used as long as all the satellite clocks are in absolute synch with each other. > The designers of the GPS _DID_ use GR in its design. And > taking into account the effects of GR is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL > to the operation of the system. [#] > > [#] I am discussing the actual GPS, as built; not some fictional > satellite positioning system some people around here fantasize > they could design differently. No fiction here, Tom www.scisite.info/dinggps.jpg .....No GR correction either. >The fact that Wilson refuses to look it up says A LOT more about him than about >either the GPS or GR. Roberts cannot get into his head that he has been backing a loser all his life. Einstein's theory might have been beautifully conceived and has impressed many gullible fools but it is unfortunately based on a fallacy.... It is undoubtedly the greatest SciFi ever written. >Tom Roberts __ Henry Wilson DSc.
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| From | HW <hw@...> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 07:16 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <kmuaqadlluf8k7h0ddv10m8gl07lgdab2h@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #356907 |
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:32:46 -0700 (PDT), JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote: >On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 12:15:31 PM UTC-7, al...@interia.pl wrote: >> >> I agree. >> >> A pretty the same way and for the same reason, >> all the medieval sailors used the great >> Ptolemy's model in his sailing practice. > >There is actually nothing outrageously wrong with the Ptolemy system, >it's simply what we'd call now a Fourier-type series expansion of the >heliocentric model. So yes, it's clumsy, but it's not wrong in the same >sense other series expansion schemes in physics (e.g. Feynman diagrams) >are not wrong. Of course the entire metaphysical edifice on top of it was >way off but that's another story entirely. There is nothing actually wrong with Einstein's silly theory if one is prepared to redefine the very meaning of standard length and time in each frame. That just makes the whole thing incredibly more complicated and totally impractical and useless.
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| From | Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 20:26 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <5k1fqa5voi7ceetm06g1vpals7pfvtc0v2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #357131 |
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:05:13 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote: >On 7/15/2015 3:59 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote: >> Yes....but the fact that Einstein plagiarized Poincare doesn't make his RoS >> nonsense any more credible. > >By the way, it's plain that Einstein knew about Poincare's earlier >comment that simultaneity is not absolute prior to 1905, and it >undoubtedly had an impact on his thinking. You seem to have a >bone-headed idea that Einstein should only be credited for the work he >did if he invented it wholly himself with no precursor ideas from anyone >else. I have no idea why you would think so -- this has never been true >of any physicist and Nobel-quality work. > >However, it's also true that Poincare made this comment and could not >progress it, could not follow the implications of it. That, Einstein >did. And even when Einstein VALIDATED Poincare's conjecture by a >testable theory with the same conclusion, Poincare found it impossible >to understand relativity himself. For example, Poincare came up with a >derivation of the same Lorentz-FitzGerald transformations to account for >the results of the Michelson-Morley experiment, but he based his >argument on THREE assumptions: a) constancy of the speed of light, b) >independence of laws of motion with reference frame, and c) a change to >electrodynamics such that there is a dynamical shortening of the lengths >of rods in the direction of motion. He had no grip on how (c) was not an >independent assumption and followed directly from (a) and (b) as a >KINEMATIC, not a dynamic, consequence. Poincare obviously dropped the idea because he could see how stupid it was. Einstein was not bright enough to see the joke. __ Henry Wilson DSc.
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 09:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4b3972dd-46d3-47b4-ae89-4c9610212c66@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357131 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:15:24 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > It's a very odd and isolated world you prefer to live in, Henry. He and others like him are not interested in anything except the person of Albert Einstein which became a weird obsession with them. It's very clear actually learning the relevant theories (anything in physics, really) is not even a second priority, it's more like the tenth. The top priority is first and foremost to belittle the object of their obsession by any means, they feel they are nothing if Einstein is left without throwing mud at him. It's interesting to speculate why that is. Viable theories: 1. They secretly lionize celebrities and Einstein being one is the perfect victim, 2. Einstein being Jewish helps if you don't like Jews (this aspect does not get much play here, mercifully), 3. Special relativity at its purely mathematical aspect is demanding very little which is perfect for people with low self-esteem requiring a daily dose of ego-boosting at the expense of someone famous, 4. Just the usual conspiracy theorists (so not directly related to physics). Other theories? -- Jan
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| From | qw <qw@qw.au> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 16:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mo8mff$iu1$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #357401 |
JanPB wrote: > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:15:24 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> >> It's a very odd and isolated world you prefer to live in, Henry. > > He and others like him are not interested in anything except the person > of Albert Einstein which became a weird obsession with them. It's very > clear actually learning the relevant theories (anything in physics, > really) is not even a second priority, it's more like the tenth. > The top priority is first and foremost to belittle the object of their > obsession by any means, they feel they are nothing if Einstein is left > without throwing mud at him. He was strong in Tensors. Without tensors there had been no Einstein.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 18:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mo8mj6$eel$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #357401 |
Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:4b3972dd-46d3-47b4-ae89-4c9610212c66@googlegroups.com... On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:15:24 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > It's a very odd and isolated world you prefer to live in, Henry. |He and others like him are not interested in anything except the person |of Albert Einstein which became a weird obsession with them. It's very Your emperor is naked, moron. The whole his wisdom was a "discovery", that good clocks are unsynchronized clocks. This is the whole his revolution. Pathetic.
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| From | kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 15:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <553gqa5a2jl8gg7ad5lacbguc372c58b5q@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #357408 |
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:08:37 +0200, Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
wrote:
>Uzytkownik "JanPB" napisal w wiadomosci grup
>dyskusyjnych:68401ec1-6184-49d8-be47-5ca770aa7e85@googlegroups.com...
>
>On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> Uzytkownik "JanPB" napisal w wiadomosci grup
>> dyskusyjnych:4b3972dd-46d3-47b4-ae89-4c9610212c66@googlegroups.com...
>>
>> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:15:24 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> >
>> > It's a very odd and isolated world you prefer to live in, Henry.
>>
>> |He and others like him are not interested in anything except the person
>> |of Albert Einstein which became a weird obsession with them. It's very
>>
>> Your emperor is naked, moron.
>> The whole his wisdom was a "discovery", that good clocks
>> are unsynchronized clocks. This is the whole his revolution.
>> Pathetic.
>
>|You don't understand the subject.
>
>You don't understand there is no subject. Whole your
>wisdom is "discovery", that good clocks are unsynchronized
>clocks. The rest is your imagination.
Identical clocks are unsynchronized, unless,
they are synchronized.
Your words are like horse shit was in 1900,
all over the place.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 22:06 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mo92ro$qmh$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #357458 |
Użytkownik "kefischer" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:553gqa5a2jl8gg7ad5lacbguc372c58b5q@4ax.com... | Identical clocks are unsynchronized, unless, |they are synchronized. | | Your words are like horse shit was in 1900, |all over the place. Unfortunately, they are not my words. They are yours.
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 13:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8403c4fb-292f-48b6-9286-0a57441cb39d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357408 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 12:08:46 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:68401ec1-6184-49d8-be47-5ca770aa7e85@googlegroups.com... > > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:4b3972dd-46d3-47b4-ae89-4c9610212c66@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:15:24 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > > > > It's a very odd and isolated world you prefer to live in, Henry. > > > > |He and others like him are not interested in anything except the person > > |of Albert Einstein which became a weird obsession with them. It's very > > > > Your emperor is naked, moron. > > The whole his wisdom was a "discovery", that good clocks > > are unsynchronized clocks. This is the whole his revolution. > > Pathetic. > > |You don't understand the subject. > > You don't understand there is no subject. Whole your > wisdom is "discovery", that good clocks are unsynchronized > clocks. The rest is your imagination. Wow, That's Deep. -- Jan
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 21:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <30112092-926e-4bd6-9c21-e434ee99ee6d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357408 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:36:55 AM UTC-5, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:4b3972dd-46d3-47b4-ae89-4c9610212c66@googlegroups.com... > > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:15:24 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > > It's a very odd and isolated world you prefer to live in, Henry. > > |He and others like him are not interested in anything except the person > |of Albert Einstein which became a weird obsession with them. It's very > > Your emperor is naked, moron. > The whole his wisdom was a "discovery", that good clocks > are unsynchronized clocks. This is the whole his revolution. > Pathetic. This is an interesting way to state this. I would say that the Copenhagen agreement taught us that there are no rules when it comes to the atomic process-compared to the classical view where our eyes dictated the rules.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 21:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4b1a7736-2e85-4f23-9d34-947cec98587e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357538 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:22:58 PM UTC-5, John Gogo wrote: > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:36:55 AM UTC-5, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > > dyskusyjnych:4b3972dd-46d3-47b4-ae89-4c9610212c66@googlegroups.com... > > > > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:15:24 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > > > > It's a very odd and isolated world you prefer to live in, Henry. > > > > |He and others like him are not interested in anything except the person > > |of Albert Einstein which became a weird obsession with them. It's very > > > > Your emperor is naked, moron. > > The whole his wisdom was a "discovery", that good clocks > > are unsynchronized clocks. This is the whole his revolution. > > Pathetic. > > This is an interesting way to state this. I would say that the Copenhagen agreement taught us that there are no rules when it comes to the atomic process-compared to the classical view where our eyes dictated the rules. When we talk of "clocks" undoubtedly, in most cases that involve relativity such as the "twin paradox" is a visual process.
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| From | John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 21:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3630ed70-f069-4368-8d90-8f089aa35240@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #357539 |
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:28:10 PM UTC-5, John Gogo wrote: > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:22:58 PM UTC-5, John Gogo wrote: > > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:36:55 AM UTC-5, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > dyskusyjnych:4b3972dd-46d3-47b4-ae89-4c9610212c66@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:15:24 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > > > > > > It's a very odd and isolated world you prefer to live in, Henry. > > > > > > |He and others like him are not interested in anything except the person > > > |of Albert Einstein which became a weird obsession with them. It's very > > > > > > Your emperor is naked, moron. > > > The whole his wisdom was a "discovery", that good clocks > > > are unsynchronized clocks. This is the whole his revolution. > > > Pathetic. > > > > This is an interesting way to state this. I would say that the Copenhagen agreement taught us that there are no rules when it comes to the atomic process-compared to the classical view where our eyes dictated the rules. > > When we talk of "clocks" undoubtedly, in most cases that involve relativity such as the "twin paradox" is a visual process. We are not talking about the decay of radiation.
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