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| Started by | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| First post | 2025-09-18 15:36 +0200 |
| Last post | 2025-09-22 23:00 -0700 |
| Articles | 9 on this page of 209 — 23 participants |
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Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 15:36 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Lemuel Sniegowski <mesue@lloeii.pl> - 2025-09-18 14:36 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-18 19:15 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 21:51 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-18 20:00 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-18 20:16 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 22:39 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-18 20:39 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 06:52 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 10:17 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 12:36 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 10:47 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 13:02 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 11:05 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 15:21 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 14:53 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 15:09 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 15:11 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 20:14 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 18:54 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 21:48 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 19:53 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 20:13 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 18:59 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 21:54 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 22:40 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-18 20:42 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 06:55 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-18 20:03 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Ron Dubanowski <oob@rrr.pl> - 2025-09-18 21:02 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-21 10:48 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:50 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-22 08:44 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Jesaiah Hofmeister <oe@eajeem.de> - 2025-09-22 10:08 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-22 22:09 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-22 22:34 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-22 20:51 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-22 23:29 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:44 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-23 07:14 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 20:19 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 00:02 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:06 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 07:28 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-23 10:04 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 10:54 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-24 07:47 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 08:32 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 08:32 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 07:09 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-27 08:25 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-28 09:47 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-28 08:39 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-28 11:11 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-28 09:15 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-28 12:12 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-28 10:22 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-28 13:54 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-28 12:24 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-28 14:31 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-28 10:40 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-02 08:36 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-04 13:15 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-05 10:46 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-30 09:45 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-01 10:26 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-02 09:42 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-02 14:57 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-02 15:24 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Hoyet Bobienski <neen@tnisyoeh.pl> - 2025-10-02 17:58 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-03 10:18 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-03 10:41 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-04 09:03 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-04 09:53 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-03 20:12 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-03 23:07 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-03 21:59 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-03 22:13 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-04 07:42 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-04 09:21 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-04 19:52 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-04 13:19 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-04 23:13 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Hensley Poplawski <pwep@lapne.pl> - 2025-10-04 21:40 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-04 22:39 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-05 08:03 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Humb Szczepanski <hze@bzrppes.pl> - 2025-10-05 09:39 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-05 12:27 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Dwight Ślusarski <sk@sriigd.pl> - 2025-10-05 11:06 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 14:35 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 15:14 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-05 19:25 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 16:11 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-05 10:23 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-05 19:25 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 17:52 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 18:05 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-05 19:21 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 20:47 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 07:00 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 07:15 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 12:14 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 10:35 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 12:50 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 10:54 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 14:37 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 12:47 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 14:58 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 21:22 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 21:24 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Mylowe Babineaux <auo@aeu.fr> - 2025-10-06 21:40 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-07 07:36 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-06 15:03 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-06 14:32 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 00:26 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 20:50 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 21:03 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 21:37 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-06 02:46 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-06 02:58 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 06:59 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-06 14:25 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-07 09:47 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-07 09:59 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-05 10:55 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-05 10:56 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-05 20:28 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-05 11:49 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 19:02 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-05 22:32 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Laureano Hofmeister <efe@estsrl.de> - 2025-10-03 22:55 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-04 13:18 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Leonardo Bélanger <rrnl@lbdgrcr.fr> - 2025-10-04 14:37 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-05 10:47 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 21:04 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-07 11:35 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-07 13:03 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-07 15:32 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-07 13:45 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-07 15:18 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-07 17:39 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-07 21:18 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-08 06:35 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-08 07:43 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-08 10:58 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-08 11:11 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-08 09:43 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-08 11:58 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-08 10:45 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-08 13:58 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-08 12:02 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-08 23:05 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-08 09:34 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-08 11:48 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-08 10:43 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-08 13:58 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-08 12:02 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-08 14:06 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-07 23:35 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-07 23:43 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-02 18:23 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thaddeus Babineaux <bdh@idudab.fr> - 2025-10-02 19:26 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-29 21:41 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-29 21:41 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-29 22:19 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-29 21:21 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-30 08:07 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-27 08:32 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 18:43 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 21:18 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 19:21 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 21:36 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 19:43 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 23:06 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 23:04 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 07:00 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-25 06:56 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 09:52 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-25 20:16 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 23:36 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Tibor Jaskolski <kso@ii.pl> - 2025-09-25 07:16 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 08:36 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 07:10 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-23 21:02 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-23 15:16 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-24 08:08 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-24 22:17 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 23:10 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 21:12 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 21:14 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-24 23:30 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-23 21:03 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-23 21:57 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 20:20 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 00:07 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:10 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 07:34 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:16 +0000
Re: Should we synchronize clocks guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:44 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-22 13:03 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:52 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 23:41 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 09:09 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-22 14:12 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-22 15:05 +0200
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-19 10:23 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-22 22:20 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 22:27 -0700
Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-22 23:00 -0700
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| From | guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-25 22:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <10b4a1r$ihi2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #666203 |
Op 22/09/2025 om 13:03 schreef Maciej Woźniak: > On 9/22/2025 12:44 PM, guido wugi wrote: >> Op 18/09/2025 om 21:51 schreef Maciej Woźniak: >>> On 9/18/2025 9:15 PM, Python wrote: >>>> Le 18/09/2025 à 15:36, Maciej Woźniak a écrit : >>>>> Time is what clocks indicate. >>>>> >>>>> If we synchronize clocks - they're >>>>> indicating t'=t; that's what clock >>>>> synchronization means. >>>> >>>> If they stand side by side sure. >>>> >>>> If they don't or are moving wrt each other it's not that easy. >>> >>> Oh, really? >>> Any example of clocks which are >>> synchronized and are not indicating >>> t'=t? >>> Let me guess - no. >> >> So you don't accept light-[!!]clocks being *real* clocks? > > AFAIK light clocks only exist in relativistic > gedankens, but I'don't know every clock of > the world. > > Doesn't matter - "synchronized clocks" > and "indicating t'=t clocks" - are the same > for me, it's just a language dependency, > without any "experimental" content. > Do you have a different opinion? Being synchronised and t=t' work only when in the same inertial state. Once the clocks part toward different inertial motion states, synchronicity and simultaneity are gone. And light clocks, at all material scales, are quintessential calibration tools for "matter's" time and space units. Matter extends in space and ages in time, in accordance with its (virtual, internal) light clocks. The latter can even be considered the very carriers of infraluminal mass, ie of matter, through the equivalent of the EM energy they "contain within" the light clock. Feel free to disagree, but that's how I like to approach SRT properties along a nicely intuitive path. https://www.wugi.be/srtinterac.html#Working_with_light_clocks -- guido wugi
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2025-09-25 23:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1868a476e7b40510$150212$2534374$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #666274 |
On 9/25/2025 10:52 PM, guido wugi wrote: > Op 22/09/2025 om 13:03 schreef Maciej Woźniak: >> On 9/22/2025 12:44 PM, guido wugi wrote: >>> Op 18/09/2025 om 21:51 schreef Maciej Woźniak: >>>> On 9/18/2025 9:15 PM, Python wrote: >>>>> Le 18/09/2025 à 15:36, Maciej Woźniak a écrit : >>>>>> Time is what clocks indicate. >>>>>> >>>>>> If we synchronize clocks - they're >>>>>> indicating t'=t; that's what clock >>>>>> synchronization means. >>>>> >>>>> If they stand side by side sure. >>>>> >>>>> If they don't or are moving wrt each other it's not that easy. >>>> >>>> Oh, really? >>>> Any example of clocks which are >>>> synchronized and are not indicating >>>> t'=t? >>>> Let me guess - no. >>> >>> So you don't accept light-[!!]clocks being *real* clocks? >> >> AFAIK light clocks only exist in relativistic >> gedankens, but I'don't know every clock of >> the world. >> >> Doesn't matter - "synchronized clocks" >> and "indicating t'=t clocks" - are the same >> for me, it's just a language dependency, >> without any "experimental" content. >> Do you have a different opinion? > > Being synchronised and t=t' work only when in the same inertial state. Still "clocks indicating t'=t' and "clocks synchronized" are synonyms. > Once the clocks part toward different inertial motion states, > synchronicity and simultaneity are gone. And all shark eat grass. Sharks eating fishes are not true sharks, just like synchronicity of GPS system is not true symchronicity.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-09-26 09:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mjms9jFfr5sU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #666277 |
Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 23:41 schrieb Maciej Woźniak: > On 9/25/2025 10:52 PM, guido wugi wrote: >> Op 22/09/2025 om 13:03 schreef Maciej Woźniak: >>> On 9/22/2025 12:44 PM, guido wugi wrote: >>>> Op 18/09/2025 om 21:51 schreef Maciej Woźniak: >>>>> On 9/18/2025 9:15 PM, Python wrote: >>>>>> Le 18/09/2025 à 15:36, Maciej Woźniak a écrit : >>>>>>> Time is what clocks indicate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we synchronize clocks - they're >>>>>>> indicating t'=t; that's what clock >>>>>>> synchronization means. >>>>>> >>>>>> If they stand side by side sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> If they don't or are moving wrt each other it's not that easy. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, really? >>>>> Any example of clocks which are >>>>> synchronized and are not indicating >>>>> t'=t? >>>>> Let me guess - no. >>>> >>>> So you don't accept light-[!!]clocks being *real* clocks? >>> >>> AFAIK light clocks only exist in relativistic >>> gedankens, but I'don't know every clock of >>> the world. >>> >>> Doesn't matter - "synchronized clocks" >>> and "indicating t'=t clocks" - are the same >>> for me, it's just a language dependency, >>> without any "experimental" content. >>> Do you have a different opinion? >> >> Being synchronised and t=t' work only when in the same inertial state. > > Still "clocks indicating t'=t' and > "clocks synchronized" are synonyms. NO!!! because we are dealing with clocks in significant distances in relativity. Let's take 'indicating' as impression of 'to see' and 'seeing' as human ability to have visual impression from received light. Now this light carries information, but needs time to travel. Therefore: if we see a certain remote clock showing e.g. 1:00:00 pm, that isn't the correct time at the clock's location, because you need to take that time for transit (='delay') into consideration. This delay is usually way too small to be of any significance. But for cosmological distances the delay can get extremely large. Is such cases, e.g. for 100 million years, it would be mandatory to think about the influence of such huge numbers. ... TH
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2025-09-22 14:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1rj2djz.gh2za71lii6xxN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #666202 |
guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote: > Op 18/09/2025 om 21:51 schreef Maciej Wo?niak: > > On 9/18/2025 9:15 PM, Python wrote: > >> Le 18/09/2025 à 15:36, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit : > >>> Time is what clocks indicate. > >>> > >>> If we synchronize clocks - they're > >>> indicating t'=t; that's what clock > >>> synchronization means. > >> > >> If they stand side by side sure. > >> > >> If they don't or are moving wrt each other it's not that easy. > > > > Oh, really? > > Any example of clocks which are > > synchronized and are not indicating > > t'=t? > > Let me guess - no. > > So you don't accept light-[!!]clocks being *real* clocks? You may argue that all precision clocks actually -are- light clocks. After all, a cesium clock is just a resonant microwave cavity that you count the periods of. (with some corrections applied :-) All that cesium beam stuff etc. merely serves to keep the mirrors of the light clock at just the right distance. [1] A cesium clock is nothing but a calibrated and stabilised light clock, Jan [1] The reality is a bit more complicated, and the mirrors are not really moved, but the basic idea is sound. (it is done with clever electronics instead)
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2025-09-22 15:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <18679c967ace7809$4952403$2486831$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #666204 |
On 9/22/2025 2:12 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote: > guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote: > >> Op 18/09/2025 om 21:51 schreef Maciej Wo?niak: >>> On 9/18/2025 9:15 PM, Python wrote: >>>> Le 18/09/2025 à 15:36, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit : >>>>> Time is what clocks indicate. >>>>> >>>>> If we synchronize clocks - they're >>>>> indicating t'=t; that's what clock >>>>> synchronization means. >>>> >>>> If they stand side by side sure. >>>> >>>> If they don't or are moving wrt each other it's not that easy. >>> >>> Oh, really? >>> Any example of clocks which are >>> synchronized and are not indicating >>> t'=t? >>> Let me guess - no. >> >> So you don't accept light-[!!]clocks being *real* clocks? > > You may argue that all precision clocks actually -are- light clocks. > After all, a cesium clock is just a resonant microwave cavity > that you count the periods of. (with some corrections applied :-) You may also argue that pulsar clocks are as well. But that's not "light clock" as described by the idiot and his minions. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_clock
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-09-19 10:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <g24rckdnn5v8vuqpi9hbshgcv5p6plnuco@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #666144 |
On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 15:36:42 +0200, Maciej Wo?niak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote: >Time is what clocks indicate. > >If we synchronize clocks - they're >indicating t'=t; that's what clock >synchronization means. > >We can do it - that doesn't have to >be obvious or easy, but that's definitely >something we can manage in most >circumstances (with a good accuracy). > >Now should we do it - and make "what >clocks indicate" to be t'=t - or should >we rather give up and obey "Laws of >Nature" announced by a mumbling idiot? >Maybe GPS wouldn't work if we didn't, >but what a magnificient symmetry we >would have instead it. > >That is the question. Isn't it? The only possible way to synchronize two clocks is if both clocks 'occupy' the same space. And that's impossible! Each clock has it's own space and time, and cannot be shared. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-09-22 22:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ncb4dk5ai4j8nlv34j0fag57guptgkt0sg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #666173 |
On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 10:23:24 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 15:36:42 +0200, Maciej Wo?niak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> >wrote: > >>Time is what clocks indicate. >> >>If we synchronize clocks - they're >>indicating t'=t; that's what clock >>synchronization means. >> >>We can do it - that doesn't have to >>be obvious or easy, but that's definitely >>something we can manage in most >>circumstances (with a good accuracy). >> >>Now should we do it - and make "what >>clocks indicate" to be t'=t - or should >>we rather give up and obey "Laws of >>Nature" announced by a mumbling idiot? >>Maybe GPS wouldn't work if we didn't, >>but what a magnificient symmetry we >>would have instead it. >> >>That is the question. Isn't it? > >The only possible way to synchronize >two clocks is if both clocks 'occupy' the same space. > >And that's impossible! > >Each clock has it's own space and time, and cannot be shared. Now, if you attempt to synchronize two clocks an inch from each other...the other clock will always be in another time zone.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-09-22 22:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10atb45$2pak9$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #666212 |
On 9/22/2025 10:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 10:23:24 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 15:36:42 +0200, Maciej Wo?niak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> >> wrote: >> >>> Time is what clocks indicate. >>> >>> If we synchronize clocks - they're >>> indicating t'=t; that's what clock >>> synchronization means. >>> >>> We can do it - that doesn't have to >>> be obvious or easy, but that's definitely >>> something we can manage in most >>> circumstances (with a good accuracy). >>> >>> Now should we do it - and make "what >>> clocks indicate" to be t'=t - or should >>> we rather give up and obey "Laws of >>> Nature" announced by a mumbling idiot? >>> Maybe GPS wouldn't work if we didn't, >>> but what a magnificient symmetry we >>> would have instead it. >>> >>> That is the question. Isn't it? >> >> The only possible way to synchronize >> two clocks is if both clocks 'occupy' the same space. >> >> And that's impossible! >> >> Each clock has it's own space and time, and cannot be shared. > > Now, if you attempt to synchronize two clocks an inch from each > other...the other clock will always be in another time zone. > > Going into into infinitesimal differences here?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-09-22 23:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nnd4dk517mduhj42u2hk2plp14hqas54jf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #666213 |
On Mon, 22 Sep 2025 22:27:32 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >On 9/22/2025 10:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 10:23:24 -0700, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 15:36:42 +0200, Maciej Wo?niak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Time is what clocks indicate. >>>> >>>> If we synchronize clocks - they're >>>> indicating t'=t; that's what clock >>>> synchronization means. >>>> >>>> We can do it - that doesn't have to >>>> be obvious or easy, but that's definitely >>>> something we can manage in most >>>> circumstances (with a good accuracy). >>>> >>>> Now should we do it - and make "what >>>> clocks indicate" to be t'=t - or should >>>> we rather give up and obey "Laws of >>>> Nature" announced by a mumbling idiot? >>>> Maybe GPS wouldn't work if we didn't, >>>> but what a magnificient symmetry we >>>> would have instead it. >>>> >>>> That is the question. Isn't it? >>> >>> The only possible way to synchronize >>> two clocks is if both clocks 'occupy' the same space. >>> >>> And that's impossible! >>> >>> Each clock has it's own space and time, and cannot be shared. >> >> Now, if you attempt to synchronize two clocks an inch from each >> other...the other clock will always be in another time zone. >> >> > >Going into into infinitesimal differences here? Even trying to synchronize two sundials...the shadows on both would be at a different angle and distance...
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