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Time and sharks

Started byMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
First post2025-09-15 11:48 +0200
Last post2025-09-26 08:48 +0200
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  Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 11:48 +0200
    Re: Time and sharks Jace Dubanowski <jwo@scj.pl> - 2025-09-15 11:18 +0000
    Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-15 14:17 +0200
      Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 16:14 +0200
        Re: Time and sharks Richard Bukowski <iia@sirwihkw.pl> - 2025-09-15 14:59 +0000
          Re: Time and sharks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-15 10:46 -0700
            Re: Time and sharks Nich Majewski <wka@nwnn.pl> - 2025-09-16 11:03 +0000
        Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-15 16:50 +0000
          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 19:16 +0200
        Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-15 22:10 +0200
          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 22:44 +0200
            Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-16 10:47 +0200
              Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-16 12:14 +0200
                Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-17 20:11 +0200
                  Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 21:00 +0200
                    Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 19:14 +0000
                      Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 21:41 +0200
                        Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 19:44 +0000
                          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 21:53 +0200
                            Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 19:56 +0000
                              Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 22:03 +0200
                                Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 20:05 +0000
                                  Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 22:27 +0200
                                    Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 20:33 +0000
                                      Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 07:05 +0200
                                        Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-18 08:33 +0000
                                          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 12:01 +0200
                                            Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-18 14:47 +0200
                                              Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 15:26 +0200
                                              Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 15:31 +0200
                                                Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-18 22:14 +0200
                                                  Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 22:37 +0200
                                                    Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-19 15:40 +0200
                                                      Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 15:59 +0200
                                                        Re: Time and sharks Stefhen Maslanka <nts@anhks.pl> - 2025-09-19 14:42 +0000
                                                          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 20:17 +0200
                                                            Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 19:19 +0000
                                                              Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 22:04 +0200
                                                                Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 20:59 +0000
                                                                  Re: Time and sharks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-09-20 15:51 +0000
                                                        Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-20 22:52 +0200
                                                          Re: Time and sharks Azael Christakos <aslo@aors.gr> - 2025-09-20 21:30 +0000
                                                            Re: Time and sharks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-21 12:52 +0200
                                                              Re: Time and sharks Vaugn Krakowski <ksa@nink.pl> - 2025-09-21 12:02 +0000
                                                          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-20 23:35 +0200
                                                          Re: Time and sharks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-21 12:52 +0200
                                                            Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-21 15:35 +0200
                                                              Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:26 +0000
                                                                Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-21 19:33 +0200
                    Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-18 14:48 +0200
                    Re: Time and sharks Neury Wronski <uuks@wieisrow.pl> - 2025-09-18 16:32 +0000
      Re: Time and sharks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-15 10:42 -0700
        Re: Time and sharks Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2025-09-15 21:22 +0200
        Re: Time and sharks Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2025-09-15 21:23 +0200
        Re: Time and sharks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-15 15:57 -0700
          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-16 06:56 +0200
      Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-16 08:46 +0200
        Re: Time and sharks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-16 12:53 -0700
          Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-17 08:56 +0200
        Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-17 20:26 +0200
          Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-21 10:42 +0200
            Re: Time and sharks "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-25 15:21 +0200
              Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 15:28 +0200
                Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:24 +0000
                  Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 23:35 +0200
                  Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 09:00 +0200
              Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-25 15:52 +0000
                Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 08:54 +0200
                  Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 07:26 +0000
                    Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-26 11:54 +0200
                      Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 14:28 +0000
                        Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 21:38 +0000
                          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-27 08:00 +0200
                        Re: Time and sharks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-26 23:27 +0200
                          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-27 08:03 +0200
                          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-26 23:31 +0200
                          Re: Time and sharks Mauro Górski <iaib@mampg.pl> - 2025-09-26 22:20 +0000
                        Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 18:24 +0000
                          Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-26 23:04 +0200
                        Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-26 19:59 +0200
              Re: Time and sharks Hollis Meeuwissen <iii@hsuw.nl> - 2025-09-25 18:53 +0000
              Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 08:48 +0200

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#666191

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-09-21 10:42 +0200
Message-ID<mj9rreF8qp2U12@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#666126
Am Mittwoch000017, 17.09.2025 um 20:26 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
> Den 16.09.2025 08:46, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> Am Montag000015, 15.09.2025 um 14:17 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>>
>>> My questions are:
>>> 1. Can you measure "the real time"?
>>
>> The measure 'time' is actually an interval and needs to have a 
>> beginning and an end.
>>
>> This is so because time is based on the idea of counting events of 
>> known frequency.
>>
>> And counting starts with 'one, two, three...'.
>>
>> The end of this process is the time of the event in question.
>>
>> Usually the used clock has some internal means to calculate user 
>> friendly outputs, which we call 'current time'.
>>
>> But mainly it is based on some sort of oscillator with known frequency 
>> and some sort of 'computer', which generates the output.
>>
>> Since this principle requires always a starting point, we negotiated 
>> 'universal' starting points on Earth.
>>
>> Of those there are several in use on Earth, mainly the supposed birth 
>> of Jesus Christ.
>>
>> Other events are also possible, while also questionable.
>>
>> Jesus for instance was most like born much earlier and was most likely 
>> not named 'Jesus'.
>>
>> As far as this is know, 'Jesus' is based on a Greek name, while the 
>> actually meant person was (most likely) a Jew who spoke Aramaic, hence 
>> certainly had no Greek name.
>>
>> Similar with other 'starting points', especially the 'big bang', 
>> because most likely 'big-bangs' are 'relative'.
>>
>>
> 
> Does this mean that time is measurable?
> 

That depends on what you understand under 'time'.


Many people think about time as being provided by a 'universal calendar 
with a huge clock'.

But that wouldn't be measurable, because time does not flow this way.

Iow: there ain't no such thing as 'absolute time', which you could 
eventually measure.


You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and the 
local frequency of its units.

As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was born.


As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home planet, 
even if that isn't perfectly stable.


TH

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#666263

From"Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-09-25 15:21 +0200
Message-ID<10b3fi5$adb4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#666191
Den 21.09.2025 10:42, skrev Thomas Heger:
> Am Mittwoch000017, 17.09.2025 um 20:26 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>> Den 16.09.2025 08:46, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>> Am Montag000015, 15.09.2025 um 14:17 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>>>
>>>> My questions are:
>>>> 1. Can you measure "the real time"?
>>>
>>> The measure 'time' is actually an interval and needs to have a 
>>> beginning and an end.
>>>
>>> This is so because time is based on the idea of counting events of 
>>> known frequency.
>>>
>>> And counting starts with 'one, two, three...'.
>>>
>>> The end of this process is the time of the event in question.
>>>
>>> Usually the used clock has some internal means to calculate user 
>>> friendly outputs, which we call 'current time'.
>>>
>>> But mainly it is based on some sort of oscillator with known 
>>> frequency and some sort of 'computer', which generates the output.
>>>
>>> Since this principle requires always a starting point, we negotiated 
>>> 'universal' starting points on Earth.
>>>
>>> Of those there are several in use on Earth, mainly the supposed birth 
>>> of Jesus Christ.
>>>
>>> Other events are also possible, while also questionable.
>>>
>>> Jesus for instance was most like born much earlier and was most 
>>> likely not named 'Jesus'.
>>>
>>> As far as this is know, 'Jesus' is based on a Greek name, while the 
>>> actually meant person was (most likely) a Jew who spoke Aramaic, 
>>> hence certainly had no Greek name.
>>>
>>> Similar with other 'starting points', especially the 'big bang', 
>>> because most likely 'big-bangs' are 'relative'.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Does this mean that time is measurable?
>>
> 
> That depends on what you understand under 'time'.
> 
> 
> Many people think about time as being provided by a 'universal calendar 
> with a huge clock'.
> But that wouldn't be measurable, because time does not flow this way.
> 
> Iow: there ain't no such thing as 'absolute time', which you could 
> eventually measure.
Have you never used your wristwatch to measure
the 'time' between two events?
(Like 'leaving home' and 'arrive at destination'.)

Was that 'time' measurable, or ain't there any such thing
which you could eventually measure?

> 
> 
> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and the 
> local frequency of its units.
> 
> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?

> 
> 
> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home planet, 
> even if that isn't perfectly stable.

Never heard of the SI-definition of second?

> 
> 
> TH
> 
BTW, on which planet are you living?
It seems very weird.

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#666264

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-25 15:28 +0200
Message-ID<1868898ad12f4e8c$582703$3040052$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#666263
On 9/25/2025 3:21 PM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
> Den 21.09.2025 10:42, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> Am Mittwoch000017, 17.09.2025 um 20:26 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>> Den 16.09.2025 08:46, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>>> Am Montag000015, 15.09.2025 um 14:17 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>>>>
>>>>> My questions are:
>>>>> 1. Can you measure "the real time"?
>>>>
>>>> The measure 'time' is actually an interval and needs to have a 
>>>> beginning and an end.
>>>>
>>>> This is so because time is based on the idea of counting events of 
>>>> known frequency.
>>>>
>>>> And counting starts with 'one, two, three...'.
>>>>
>>>> The end of this process is the time of the event in question.
>>>>
>>>> Usually the used clock has some internal means to calculate user 
>>>> friendly outputs, which we call 'current time'.
>>>>
>>>> But mainly it is based on some sort of oscillator with known 
>>>> frequency and some sort of 'computer', which generates the output.
>>>>
>>>> Since this principle requires always a starting point, we negotiated 
>>>> 'universal' starting points on Earth.
>>>>
>>>> Of those there are several in use on Earth, mainly the supposed 
>>>> birth of Jesus Christ.
>>>>
>>>> Other events are also possible, while also questionable.
>>>>
>>>> Jesus for instance was most like born much earlier and was most 
>>>> likely not named 'Jesus'.
>>>>
>>>> As far as this is know, 'Jesus' is based on a Greek name, while the 
>>>> actually meant person was (most likely) a Jew who spoke Aramaic, 
>>>> hence certainly had no Greek name.
>>>>
>>>> Similar with other 'starting points', especially the 'big bang', 
>>>> because most likely 'big-bangs' are 'relative'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does this mean that time is measurable?
>>>
>>
>> That depends on what you understand under 'time'.
>>
>>
>> Many people think about time as being provided by a 'universal 
>> calendar with a huge clock'.
>> But that wouldn't be measurable, because time does not flow this way.
>>
>> Iow: there ain't no such thing as 'absolute time', which you could 
>> eventually measure.
> Have you never used your wristwatch to measure
> the 'time' between two events?
> (Like 'leaving home' and 'arrive at destination'.)
> 
> Was that 'time' measurable, or ain't there any such thing
> which you could eventually measure?
> 
>>
>>
>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and the 
>> local frequency of its units.
>>
>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
>> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was 
>> born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?

They're not even using clocks for that, poor trash.
A "stopwatch" is a similar device, but different
enough to get a different name.
When defining "time" the idiot you're worshipping
introduced "position of hands". And that only
has sense when the start point is known.

> 
>>
>>
>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home planet, 
>> even if that isn't perfectly stable.
> 
> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?

An ideological nonsense concocted by
brainwashed religious maniacs and ignored
by every timekeeping system.

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#666272

FromPython <jp@python.invalid>
Date2025-09-25 19:24 +0000
Message-ID<seQ9J9tYSLh5AnW8Vo-TNOvZUEE@jntp>
In reply to#666264
Le 25/09/2025 à 15:28, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
> On 9/25/2025 3:21 PM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>> Den 21.09.2025 10:42, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>> Am Mittwoch000017, 17.09.2025 um 20:26 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>>> Den 16.09.2025 08:46, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>>>> Am Montag000015, 15.09.2025 um 14:17 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My questions are:
>>>>>> 1. Can you measure "the real time"?
>>>>>
>>>>> The measure 'time' is actually an interval and needs to have a 
>>>>> beginning and an end.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is so because time is based on the idea of counting events of 
>>>>> known frequency.
>>>>>
>>>>> And counting starts with 'one, two, three...'.
>>>>>
>>>>> The end of this process is the time of the event in question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually the used clock has some internal means to calculate user 
>>>>> friendly outputs, which we call 'current time'.
>>>>>
>>>>> But mainly it is based on some sort of oscillator with known 
>>>>> frequency and some sort of 'computer', which generates the output.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this principle requires always a starting point, we negotiated 
>>>>> 'universal' starting points on Earth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of those there are several in use on Earth, mainly the supposed 
>>>>> birth of Jesus Christ.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other events are also possible, while also questionable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus for instance was most like born much earlier and was most 
>>>>> likely not named 'Jesus'.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as this is know, 'Jesus' is based on a Greek name, while the 
>>>>> actually meant person was (most likely) a Jew who spoke Aramaic, 
>>>>> hence certainly had no Greek name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Similar with other 'starting points', especially the 'big bang', 
>>>>> because most likely 'big-bangs' are 'relative'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean that time is measurable?
>>>>
>>>
>>> That depends on what you understand under 'time'.
>>>
>>>
>>> Many people think about time as being provided by a 'universal 
>>> calendar with a huge clock'.
>>> But that wouldn't be measurable, because time does not flow this way.
>>>
>>> Iow: there ain't no such thing as 'absolute time', which you could 
>>> eventually measure.
>> Have you never used your wristwatch to measure
>> the 'time' between two events?
>> (Like 'leaving home' and 'arrive at destination'.)
>> 
>> Was that 'time' measurable, or ain't there any such thing
>> which you could eventually measure?
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and the 
>>> local frequency of its units.
>>>
>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
>>> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was 
>>> born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
> 
> They're not even using clocks for that, poor trash.
> A "stopwatch" is a similar device, but different
> enough to get a different name.
> When defining "time" the idiot you're worshipping
> introduced "position of hands".

An inability to spot a metaphor is a sign of mental illness.

> And that only
> has sense when the start point is known.

What do you mean by "start point" ? If it is the event "the clock marks t 
= 0" this is definitely something Einstein-Poincaré synchronization leads 
to determine. It does not play any specific role btw. 0 is a clock value 
as any other :-)

Maybe you're more stupid than Thomas Heger, I start to consider that. This 
is quite an impressive achievement on your side.
 
Poor nurses...

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#666275

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-25 23:35 +0200
Message-ID<1868a4256b9511a3$156532$2551467$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#666272
On 9/25/2025 9:24 PM, Python wrote:
> Le 25/09/2025 à 15:28, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
>> On 9/25/2025 3:21 PM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>> Den 21.09.2025 10:42, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>>> Am Mittwoch000017, 17.09.2025 um 20:26 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>>>> Den 16.09.2025 08:46, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>>>>> Am Montag000015, 15.09.2025 um 14:17 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My questions are:
>>>>>>> 1. Can you measure "the real time"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The measure 'time' is actually an interval and needs to have a 
>>>>>> beginning and an end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is so because time is based on the idea of counting events of 
>>>>>> known frequency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And counting starts with 'one, two, three...'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The end of this process is the time of the event in question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Usually the used clock has some internal means to calculate user 
>>>>>> friendly outputs, which we call 'current time'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But mainly it is based on some sort of oscillator with known 
>>>>>> frequency and some sort of 'computer', which generates the output.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this principle requires always a starting point, we 
>>>>>> negotiated 'universal' starting points on Earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of those there are several in use on Earth, mainly the supposed 
>>>>>> birth of Jesus Christ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other events are also possible, while also questionable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus for instance was most like born much earlier and was most 
>>>>>> likely not named 'Jesus'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as this is know, 'Jesus' is based on a Greek name, while 
>>>>>> the actually meant person was (most likely) a Jew who spoke 
>>>>>> Aramaic, hence certainly had no Greek name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Similar with other 'starting points', especially the 'big bang', 
>>>>>> because most likely 'big-bangs' are 'relative'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this mean that time is measurable?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That depends on what you understand under 'time'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many people think about time as being provided by a 'universal 
>>>> calendar with a huge clock'.
>>>> But that wouldn't be measurable, because time does not flow this way.
>>>>
>>>> Iow: there ain't no such thing as 'absolute time', which you could 
>>>> eventually measure.
>>> Have you never used your wristwatch to measure
>>> the 'time' between two events?
>>> (Like 'leaving home' and 'arrive at destination'.)
>>>
>>> Was that 'time' measurable, or ain't there any such thing
>>> which you could eventually measure?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and 
>>>> the local frequency of its units.
>>>>
>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
>>>> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was 
>>>> born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>
>> They're not even using clocks for that, poor trash.
>> A "stopwatch" is a similar device, but different
>> enough to get a different name.
>> When defining "time" the idiot you're worshipping
>> introduced "position of hands".
> 
> An inability to spot a metaphor is a sign of mental illness.

Seeing  a metaphor where there is no,
on the other hand, is a sign of dumbness
and stupidity. Position of hands - like
15:30 - is a timestamp. Not an interval.

The idiot was of course too primitive
to notice that the clocks are only
responsible for  the less significant
part of a timestamp. The reality is
too complicated for those like him
or yourself.



> 
>> And that only
>> has sense when the start point is known.
> 
> What do you mean by "start point" ? If it is the event "the clock marks 

But this is not. Better stick to your
delusions, poor stinker - the reality is
far, far, far too complicated for your
tiny, fanatic halfbrain.

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#666283

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-09-26 09:00 +0200
Message-ID<mjmrn7Ffr5sU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#666272
Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 21:24 schrieb Python:
...
>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and 
>>>> the local frequency of its units.
>>>>
>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
>>>> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was 
>>>> born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>
>> They're not even using clocks for that, poor trash.
>> A "stopwatch" is a similar device, but different
>> enough to get a different name.
>> When defining "time" the idiot you're worshipping
>> introduced "position of hands".
> 
> An inability to spot a metaphor is a sign of mental illness.
> 
>> And that only
>> has sense when the start point is known.
> 
> What do you mean by "start point" ? If it is the event "the clock marks 
> t = 0" this is definitely something Einstein-Poincaré synchronization 
> leads to determine. It does not play any specific role btw. 0 is a clock 
> value as any other :-)

Time always requires to define a starting point, because time is 
actually an interval, even if most people don't recognize that.

We have usual clocks like e.g. a wrist watch, which are commonly set to 
the local time by some sort or timing signal.

E.g. the BBC transmitted the sound of 'Big Ben' at noon.

Then we have calendars which also get synchronized each year at a huge 
celebration.

This is then used as stating point of time for this particular year and 
location.

TH

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#666267

FromPython <jpierre.messager@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-25 15:52 +0000
Message-ID<TnQ9p4UxMYqDxx9c8Tp9jzs8eJo@jntp>
In reply to#666263
Le 25/09/2025 à 15:20, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
> Den 21.09.2025 10:42, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> Am Mittwoch000017, 17.09.2025 um 20:26 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>> Den 16.09.2025 08:46, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>>> Am Montag000015, 15.09.2025 um 14:17 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>>>>>
>>>>> My questions are:
>>>>> 1. Can you measure "the real time"?
>>>>
>>>> The measure 'time' is actually an interval and needs to have a 
>>>> beginning and an end.
>>>>
>>>> This is so because time is based on the idea of counting events of 
>>>> known frequency.
>>>>
>>>> And counting starts with 'one, two, three...'.
>>>>
>>>> The end of this process is the time of the event in question.
>>>>
>>>> Usually the used clock has some internal means to calculate user 
>>>> friendly outputs, which we call 'current time'.
>>>>
>>>> But mainly it is based on some sort of oscillator with known 
>>>> frequency and some sort of 'computer', which generates the output.
>>>>
>>>> Since this principle requires always a starting point, we negotiated 
>>>> 'universal' starting points on Earth.
>>>>
>>>> Of those there are several in use on Earth, mainly the supposed birth 
>>>> of Jesus Christ.
>>>>
>>>> Other events are also possible, while also questionable.
>>>>
>>>> Jesus for instance was most like born much earlier and was most 
>>>> likely not named 'Jesus'.
>>>>
>>>> As far as this is know, 'Jesus' is based on a Greek name, while the 
>>>> actually meant person was (most likely) a Jew who spoke Aramaic, 
>>>> hence certainly had no Greek name.
>>>>
>>>> Similar with other 'starting points', especially the 'big bang', 
>>>> because most likely 'big-bangs' are 'relative'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does this mean that time is measurable?
>>>
>> 
>> That depends on what you understand under 'time'.
>> 
>> 
>> Many people think about time as being provided by a 'universal calendar 
>> with a huge clock'.
>> But that wouldn't be measurable, because time does not flow this way.
>> 
>> Iow: there ain't no such thing as 'absolute time', which you could 
>> eventually measure.
> Have you never used your wristwatch to measure
> the 'time' between two events?
> (Like 'leaving home' and 'arrive at destination'.)
> 
> Was that 'time' measurable, or ain't there any such thing
> which you could eventually measure?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and the 
>> local frequency of its units.
>> 
>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
>> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was born.Could 
>> those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home planet, 
>> even if that isn't perfectly stable.
> 
> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> TH
>> 
> BTW, on which planet are you living?
> It seems very weird.

Growing Earth, he actually believe that also 😂

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#666282

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-09-26 08:54 +0200
Message-ID<mjmrc2Ffr5sU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#666267
Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
...
>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and the 
>>> local frequency of its units.
>>>
>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
>>> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was 
>>> born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home planet, 
>>> even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>
>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TH
>>>
>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>> It seems very weird.
> 
> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also 😂

I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons of 
evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.

There are actually numerous observation which everybody could easily 
make, which require a growing planet.

Main:

the growth of the planet makes sea-levels fall over very long periods of 
time.

This means: former sea-bottom is now land and that can be easily seen 
almost everywhere (once you know what to look for).


'Growing Earth' is also among the most important questions in physics, 
because tons of questions are related to the question, whether or not 
matter could be created out of nowhere (or not).


TH

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#666287

FromPython <jpierre.messager@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-26 07:26 +0000
Message-ID<jUvEe4Hpd8pvST4vOn2USZ4OPVc@jntp>
In reply to#666282
Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
> ...
>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and the 
>>>> local frequency of its units.
>>>>
>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
>>>> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was 
>>>> born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home planet, 
>>>> even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>>
>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>>
>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>>> It seems very weird.
>> 
>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also 😂
> 
> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons of 
> evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.

What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.

You are INSANE Thomas.

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#666288

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-26 11:54 +0200
Message-ID<1868cc733882f391$180593$2534374$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#666287
On 9/26/2025 9:26 AM, Python wrote:
> Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
>> ...
>>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and 
>>>>> the local frequency of its units.
>>>>>
>>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
>>>>> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was 
>>>>> born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home 
>>>>> planet, even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>>>
>>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TH
>>>>>
>>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>>>> It seems very weird.
>>>
>>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also 😂
>>
>> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons of 
>> evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.
> 
> What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.

That's right, poor stinker. A physicist
or a wannabe physicist - the "logic" is
similar.



> 
> 

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#666289

FromPython <jpierre.messager@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-26 14:28 +0000
Message-ID<rkpo03BbQ0LYFW75Chn01vzLJ10@jntp>
In reply to#666288
Le 26/09/2025 à 11:54, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
> On 9/26/2025 9:26 AM, Python wrote:
>> Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
>>> ...
>>>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and 
>>>>>> the local frequency of its units.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even if 
>>>>>> nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person was 
>>>>>> born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home 
>>>>>> planet, even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TH
>>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>>>>> It seems very weird.
>>>>
>>>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also 😂
>>>
>>> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons of 
>>> evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.
>> 
>> What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.
> 
> That's right, poor stinker. A physicist
> or a wannabe physicist - the "logic" is
> similar.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 

You also believe in a growing Earth?
Or a flat Earth maybe 😁 ?

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#666291

FromPython <jpierre.messager@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-26 21:38 +0000
Message-ID<I3GDu8UUWozVfP7JB2NfSoxomVw@jntp>
In reply to#666289
Le 26/09/2025 à 23:31, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
> On 9/26/2025 11:27 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 19:59, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit :
>>>> On 9/26/2025 4:28 PM, Python wrote:
>>>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 11:54, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit :
>>>>>> On 9/26/2025 9:26 AM, Python wrote:
>>>>>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and
>>>>>>>>>>> the local frequency of its units.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even
>>>>>>>>>>> if nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person
>>>>>>>>>>> was born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>>>>>>>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>>>>>>>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home
>>>>>>>>>>> planet, even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TH
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>>>>>>>>>> It seems very weird.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons
>>>>>>>> of evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's right, poor stinker. A physicist
>>>>>> or a wannabe physicist - the "logic" is
>>>>>> similar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You also believe in a growing Earth?
>>>>> Or a flat Earth maybe ? ?
>>>>
>>>> Neither. You're just slandering, like
>>>> always.
>>>
>>> I'm not slandering, I'm asking.
>> 
>> With good reason, it seems to me.
> 
> Slandering the enemies of a moronic
> religion is always "with good reasons"
> for the worshippers.

It is not a religion.
It is not moronic, YOU are the moron.
There is no worshipers.

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#666308

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-27 08:00 +0200
Message-ID<18690e4767729e38$155144$2542420$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#666291
On 9/26/2025 11:38 PM, Python wrote:
> Le 26/09/2025 à 23:31, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
>> On 9/26/2025 11:27 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 19:59, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit :
>>>>> On 9/26/2025 4:28 PM, Python wrote:
>>>>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 11:54, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit :
>>>>>>> On 9/26/2025 9:26 AM, Python wrote:
>>>>>>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> time) and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the local frequency of its units.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', 
>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>> if nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person
>>>>>>>>>>>> was born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>>>>>>>>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>>>>>>>>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home
>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> TH
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems very weird.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons
>>>>>>>>> of evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's right, poor stinker. A physicist
>>>>>>> or a wannabe physicist - the "logic" is
>>>>>>> similar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You also believe in a growing Earth?
>>>>>> Or a flat Earth maybe ? ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither. You're just slandering, like
>>>>> always.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not slandering, I'm asking.
>>>
>>> With good reason, it seems to me.
>>
>> Slandering the enemies of a moronic
>> religion is always "with good reasons"
>> for the worshippers.
> 
> It is not a religion.
> It is not moronic, YOU are the moron.
> There is no worshipers.


See, poor stinker - I've proven the mumble of your idiot
guru to be not even consistent, and you can do nothing
about it apart of spitting, insulting and slandering.

But  you will do what you can for your moronic religion.
> 

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#666299

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2025-09-26 23:27 +0200
Message-ID<1rjaj0m.1mzjszz1agekkzN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#666289
Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 26/09/2025 à 19:59, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit :
> > On 9/26/2025 4:28 PM, Python wrote:
> >> Le 26/09/2025 à 11:54, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit :
> >>> On 9/26/2025 9:26 AM, Python wrote:
> >>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
> >>>>> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and
> >>>>>>>> the local frequency of its units.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even
> >>>>>>>> if nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person
> >>>>>>>> was born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
> >>>>>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
> >>>>>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home
> >>>>>>>> planet, even if that isn't perfectly stable.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> TH
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
> >>>>>>> It seems very weird.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons
> >>>>> of evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.
> >>>>
> >>>> What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.
> >>>
> >>> That's right, poor stinker. A physicist
> >>> or a wannabe physicist - the "logic" is
> >>> similar.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> 
> >> You also believe in a growing Earth?
> >> Or a flat Earth maybe ? ?
> > 
> > Neither. You're just slandering, like
> > always.
> 
> I'm not slandering, I'm asking.

With good reason, it seems to me.
By an old German proverb:
'Ein Unglück kommt selten allein'
Or french:
'Le malheur arrive rarement seul'
(Literally, 'A misfortune rarely comes alone)
Best English equivalent for meaning: 
'When it rains, it pours'.

Applied to this forum: Crazy ideas rarely happen in isolation.
Someone with one crazy idea usually turns out to be a complete nutter.

No one in particular in mind of course,

Jan

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#666310

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-27 08:03 +0200
Message-ID<18690e6cd85e45a9$155145$2542420$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#666299
> J. J. Lodder wrote:
> 
>> Best English equivalent for meaning:
>> 'When it rains, it pours'.
>>
>> Applied to this forum: Crazy ideas rarely happen in isolation. Someone
>> with one crazy idea usually turns out to be a complete nutter.

Your idiot guru, for instance: first announced
that good clocks are desynchronizing clocks -
and just some years later announced basic
math false.
Of course, his obedient doggies soon found
"proofs" that it was always obvious that
basic mathematics is false.

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#666313

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-26 23:31 +0200
Message-ID<1868f2817c797868$262507$2551467$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#666299
On 9/26/2025 11:27 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Le 26/09/2025 à 19:59, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit :
>>> On 9/26/2025 4:28 PM, Python wrote:
>>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 11:54, Maciej Wo?niak a écrit :
>>>>> On 9/26/2025 9:26 AM, Python wrote:
>>>>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and
>>>>>>>>>> the local frequency of its units.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even
>>>>>>>>>> if nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person
>>>>>>>>>> was born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>>>>>>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>>>>>>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home
>>>>>>>>>> planet, even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TH
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>>>>>>>>> It seems very weird.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons
>>>>>>> of evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's right, poor stinker. A physicist
>>>>> or a wannabe physicist - the "logic" is
>>>>> similar.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You also believe in a growing Earth?
>>>> Or a flat Earth maybe ? ?
>>>
>>> Neither. You're just slandering, like
>>> always.
>>
>> I'm not slandering, I'm asking.
> 
> With good reason, it seems to me.

Slandering the enemies of a moronic
religion is always "with good reasons"
for the worshippers.

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#666327

FromMauro Górski <iaib@mampg.pl>
Date2025-09-26 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<10b73jr$1b24n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#666299
J. J. Lodder wrote:

> Best English equivalent for meaning:
> 'When it rains, it pours'.
> 
> Applied to this forum: Crazy ideas rarely happen in isolation. Someone
> with one crazy idea usually turns out to be a complete nutter.

but the earth is today larger than it was 100 years ago, for instance. 
It's simple mathematics, touch my balls. What are you so intricate about.

the smellensky of ukrane attacks again your country with drones, maybe you 
should reconsider.

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#666315

FromPython <jpierre.messager@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-26 18:24 +0000
Message-ID<KoUgNg4VrG8y4i1qwxFiRtnrB4s@jntp>
In reply to#666289
Le 26/09/2025 à 19:59, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
> On 9/26/2025 4:28 PM, Python wrote:
>> Le 26/09/2025 à 11:54, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
>>> On 9/26/2025 9:26 AM, Python wrote:
>>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>>> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and 
>>>>>>>> the local frequency of its units.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even 
>>>>>>>> if nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person 
>>>>>>>> was born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>>>>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>>>>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home 
>>>>>>>> planet, even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>>>>>>> It seems very weird.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also 😂
>>>>>
>>>>> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons 
>>>>> of evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.
>>>>
>>>> What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.
>>>
>>> That's right, poor stinker. A physicist
>>> or a wannabe physicist - the "logic" is
>>> similar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> 
>> You also believe in a growing Earth?
>> Or a flat Earth maybe 😁 ?
> 
> Neither. You're just slandering, like
> always.

I'm not slandering, I'm asking.

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#666319

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-26 23:04 +0200
Message-ID<1868f10a9676a10c$264525$2551467$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#666315
On 9/26/2025 8:24 PM, Python wrote:
> Le 26/09/2025 à 19:59, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
>> On 9/26/2025 4:28 PM, Python wrote:
>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 11:54, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
>>>> On 9/26/2025 9:26 AM, Python wrote:
>>>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) 
>>>>>>>>> and the local frequency of its units.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', 
>>>>>>>>> even if nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that 
>>>>>>>>> person was born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt 
>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>>>>>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home 
>>>>>>>>> planet, even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>>>>>>>> It seems very weird.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also 😂
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons 
>>>>>> of evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.
>>>>>
>>>>> What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.
>>>>
>>>> That's right, poor stinker. A physicist
>>>> or a wannabe physicist - the "logic" is
>>>> similar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> You also believe in a growing Earth?
>>> Or a flat Earth maybe 😁 ?
>>
>> Neither. You're just slandering, like
>> always.
> 
> I'm not slandering, I'm asking.

How many children have you rapted,
poor stinker?

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#666322

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-26 19:59 +0200
Message-ID<1868e6f57d7ac54f$64881$2542420$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#666289
On 9/26/2025 4:28 PM, Python wrote:
> Le 26/09/2025 à 11:54, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
>> On 9/26/2025 9:26 AM, Python wrote:
>>> Le 26/09/2025 à 08:49, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>> Am Donnerstag000025, 25.09.2025 um 17:52 schrieb Python:
>>>> ...
>>>>>>> You can only use time, if you know a starting point (in time) and 
>>>>>>> the local frequency of its units.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As common 'starting point' we take 'birth of Jesus Christ', even 
>>>>>>> if nobody knows for sure, when or whether at all or that person 
>>>>>>> was born.Could those who measured the 'time' Usain Bolt used
>>>>>> to run 100 m only use 'time' because they knew that
>>>>>> the common 'starting point' was the 'birth of Jesus Christ'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As 'rhythm of time' we usually take the rotation of our home 
>>>>>>> planet, even if that isn't perfectly stable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never heard of the SI-definition of second?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, on which planet are you living?
>>>>>> It seems very weird.
>>>>>
>>>>> Growing Earth, he actually believe that also 😂
>>>>
>>>> I have actually spent a LOT of time on that subject and found tons 
>>>> of evidence, that Earth does in fact grows.
>>>
>>> What you call "evidence" is what sane people call delusions.
>>
>> That's right, poor stinker. A physicist
>> or a wannabe physicist - the "logic" is
>> similar.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
> 
> You also believe in a growing Earth?
> Or a flat Earth maybe 😁 ?

Neither. You're just slandering, like
always.



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