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| Started by | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-08-16 17:38 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-08-29 09:45 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 358 — 36 participants |
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List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-17 12:05 +1000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-17 13:24 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-19 06:58 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:19 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 23:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-20 07:08 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 19:53 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 17:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 18:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 19:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:57 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 00:19 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 21:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 15:13 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:43 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 15:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 21:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 02:05 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 15:32 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:57 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:33 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:14 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:57 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 15:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-17 17:46 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:29 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 20:06 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 09:20 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:23 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 15:03 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:44 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-08-17 08:13 -0600
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:59 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:18 -0700
Cranks Richard Hertz and Laurence Crossen run out of arguments "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 09:37 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 23:13 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:44 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-18 12:45 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 04:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:32 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:00 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:54 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 16:49 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ben Harin <ianr@ninrbnnr.nn> - 2023-08-18 23:27 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 15:40 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 19:23 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:18 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:04 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:53 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:21 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Wayne Bereznevich <nwne@czewnebe.ze> - 2023-08-18 22:37 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:49 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Elton Vakar <eero@aklenaoo.av> - 2023-08-18 23:07 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Merlan Bauze <emeu@eabezeel.bn> - 2023-08-19 10:13 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 15:39 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:56 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 10:22 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 21:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 13:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-18 10:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-18 11:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 10:22 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:49 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:51 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:01 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:51 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 12:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:02 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 16:49 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:57 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:35 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:35 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 08:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 08:26 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:13 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:27 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 10:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 19:49 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:29 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 20:30 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 23:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 23:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 10:36 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 06:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 06:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 07:11 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 07:29 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 08:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 07:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 18:03 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 00:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 01:02 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 11:54 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 03:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 09:38 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 20:05 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 19:52 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 11:08 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 13:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-23 15:52 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 11:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 14:39 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-09-03 17:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 22:58 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 21:41 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 11:08 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 22:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 01:01 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 11:54 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 23:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 23:23 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 12:01 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 03:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 04:22 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 13:55 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 15:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-24 14:02 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 05:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 13:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Delmer Tupalo <rptm@lmlelodl.el> - 2023-08-20 18:44 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:29 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Travis Bazili <aail@ttttviat.sv> - 2023-08-23 09:38 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:48 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Clarence Talkovsky <nskl@eccaryec.kv> - 2023-08-23 11:53 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:11 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:13 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:23 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:26 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 10:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:32 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 15:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-24 14:02 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 11:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-25 21:45 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-19 11:22 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 20:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-20 11:52 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Brett Harkharov <aaah@rthtrath.rk> - 2023-08-19 17:12 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 08:08 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 02:50 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Chico Patsalo <tpac@slsialct.ac> - 2023-08-19 10:41 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:22 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 14:45 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 03:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 08:36 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 19:18 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:01 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-20 12:13 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 17:52 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:55 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 09:12 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 00:32 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:06 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 06:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:14 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:40 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Shon Babukh <koun@bnbuboab.ob> - 2023-08-18 23:38 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 20:04 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 13:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 20:04 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:37 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 13:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-20 01:55 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 19:19 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 15:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 16:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:20 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 19:11 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:02 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-20 07:07 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:59 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 12:39 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:25 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:55 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 20:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:03 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 00:35 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 21:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 10:36 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 22:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 10:03 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:50 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 17:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:34 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 22:42 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 15:30 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:12 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:41 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-21 19:11 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 18:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-21 23:33 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 22:24 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:41 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-22 09:58 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:19 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 22:25 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 10:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 11:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-22 14:06 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 22:17 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 23:20 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 21:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 10:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 00:44 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Colby Zolotar <bolr@obzooota.yr> - 2023-08-24 09:32 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 10:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 14:28 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 21:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 06:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:26 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 10:41 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 22:21 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-23 01:24 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 22:59 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-21 23:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-22 15:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-22 17:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Evenezer Peltser <etpv@pverreet.zz> - 2023-08-23 11:04 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-21 21:25 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 00:13 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:15 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 18:43 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:51 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:01 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:26 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:31 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 01:00 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Williard Bah <rhab@ihdiadrd.lw> - 2023-08-23 10:30 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:57 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Basil Hariton <athi@iaribinh.bo> - 2023-08-23 11:51 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 07:48 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 20:07 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:41 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 18:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 08:51 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 09:55 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-28 15:20 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 06:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-29 09:45 -0700
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-23 05:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <uc4o5j$elgn$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #618658 |
On 8/23/2023 4:38 AM, Travis Bazili wrote:
> Volney wrote:
>
>> I guess the Russians are up to their old tricks. Rush a mission for
>> political purposes (in this case to beat India) and in doing so,
>> something goes wrong and the mission fails. They even tried to get
>> something to the moon just ahead of Apollo 11 but it failed.
>
> you have a {{{𝗯𝗶𝗴_𝗻𝗼𝘀𝗲}}}.
Travis, let me borrow your post to correct Vulva's false information.
Thanks.
Vulva, not everything is in print in your mum's tongue about Russian vs
USA moon competition, sweetie; and from those in print I've had more
access than you to them (some came out in German). That's kick number
one to your Vulvatic ass chirping nonsense out and around here.
But orally, there was a ton of information among the Americans involved
that never could leak out into media. They were almost hush talks spoken
to each other about what they could remember from those years. Some of
dethese Americans involved, were professors and directors in my grad
school. You don't know zit how they'd been impressed (and scared) by
Russians in late 1960s doing everything that Americans were doing on the
Moon with all that crucial human assistance, yet _without_ having a man
or two onboard, and purely via robotics and remote control. 20 years
later in mid and late 1980s they were still speaking with awe about
that! And that is kick number two to your Vulvatically chirping
Vulvatics around here.
Even if Americans had someone else other than Armstrong on board, it
would've certainly crashed let alone trying to do it without any human
on board! You talk out of your vulva because there's no way else to spew
nonsense like you do. It needs a vulva, and a Vulvatic head like yours
placed upon it (remember the "graphics" representation of you I gave?).
And this is kick number three!
Go back to your forum in that crazy house and never show up here, or
I'll kick your ass every time I note your nonsensical presence.
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| From | Clarence Talkovsky <nskl@eccaryec.kv> |
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| Date | 2023-08-23 11:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uc4s0j$2ti9t$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #618664 |
{{{𝗣𝗵𝘆𝘀𝗳𝗶𝘁𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗸}}} wrote:
> On 8/23/2023 4:38 AM, Travis Bazili wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>>> I guess the Russians are up to their old tricks. Rush a mission for
>>> political purposes (in this case to beat India) and in doing so,
>>> something goes wrong and the mission fails. They even tried to get
>>> something to the moon just ahead of Apollo 11 but it failed.
>> you have a {{{𝗯𝗶𝗴_𝗻𝗼𝘀𝗲}}}.
>
> Travis, let me borrow your post to correct Vulva's false information.
> Thanks.
shut the fuck up, {{{𝗳𝗼𝗼𝗹}}}. You are too stupid to talk anything. We talk
{{{𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗶𝘁𝘆}}} here.
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 12:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e8dba4ba-f83a-4c1a-974b-73014124bc57n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618389 |
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:49:15 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:56:59?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:13:11?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:56:04?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > > > > Athel Cornish-Bowden <athe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > [-] > > > > > > > > Anyway, I'm interested to see that patdolan has a new right-wing > > > > > > > > racist buddy. I had previously ignored Dono.'s repeated and > > > > > > > > deliberate misquoting, because he was mainly directing it towards > > > > > > > > nutters. That was wrong of me. Now I see that he must join Pentcho > > > > > > > > Valev, Ken Seto and Lawrence Clark Crossen in my collection of > > > > > > > > liars. > > > > > > > Yes, he seems to be some kind of Jewish/Isreal fundie. > > > > > > > When you say that good people like Albert Einstein and Hannah > > > > > > > Ahrent (and many others) vehemently protested against the role > > > > > > > Jewish terrorism in the establishment of the state of Isreal he > > > > > > > jumps through the roof, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > Typical antisemite, Jan > > > > > Yes, really bad guy, that Albert. Nasty. > > > > > I shouldn't have mentioned him? > > > > > > > > Nothing to do with Einstein,. everything to do with your sucking up to > > > > fakestinians. > > > You deny that Einstein distanced himself, > > > in quite explicit terms, from Jewish terrorism in 1948, > > > as in massacring Palestinian villages? > > > (by the Stern gang, and Menachim Begin's organisation) > > > > > > I never said that, crank. What I said is that you are a fakestinian lover. > > Typical of the lefturds. > > > > > > But what is interesting is that you are still butthurt for being > > > > > > exposed to have not grasped the Alveger experiment. > > > > > Sigh. The problem is you not understanding that you don't understand it. > > > > > > > > So, do you still maintain that Alveger measured OWLS? > > > Yes of course, what else could they possibly have done? > > > > I already explained that to you. You need to go back and re-read the post, > > it was quite detailed. > Yes, I remember. You completely misunderstood what it is all about. > With things that are so thoroughly wrong > there is no point in going into details. Your ignorance is surpassed only by your arrogance, I will leave you bask in both. > > OWLS is not measurable. Incidentally, wiki has a very good article on > > this, I recommend that you read it and stop making a fool of yourself > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_speed_of_light). Also, Zhang has a > > very good chapter on this subject in his excellent book. > Yes, I know, it is junk. They badly need a Deletian there, [1] > > Jan It is taken almost ad literam from the excellent Zhang book. Too bad that you are so arrogant to refuse to read it. > > [1] For Prokary: sorry, if it was you who wrote it, > but there is no point in mincing words. He didn't.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qfsa4v.zomdka36ci0xN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #618398 |
Dono. <eggy20011951@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:49:15?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:56:59?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:13:11?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > > > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:56:04?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder: > > > > > > > > Athel Cornish-Bowden <athe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > [-] > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I'm interested to see that patdolan has a new > > > > > > > > > right-wing racist buddy. I had previously ignored Dono.'s > > > > > > > > > repeated and deliberate misquoting, because he was mainly > > > > > > > > > directing it towards nutters. That was wrong of me. Now I > > > > > > > > > see that he must join Pentcho Valev, Ken Seto and Lawrence > > > > > > > > > Clark Crossen in my collection of liars. > > > > > > > > Yes, he seems to be some kind of Jewish/Isreal fundie. When > > > > > > > > you say that good people like Albert Einstein and Hannah > > > > > > > > Ahrent (and many others) vehemently protested against the > > > > > > > > role Jewish terrorism in the establishment of the state of > > > > > > > > Isreal he jumps through the roof, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > Typical antisemite, Jan > > > > > > Yes, really bad guy, that Albert. Nasty. > > > > > > I shouldn't have mentioned him? > > > > > > > > > > Nothing to do with Einstein,. everything to do with your sucking > > > > > up to fakestinians. > > > > You deny that Einstein distanced himself, > > > > in quite explicit terms, from Jewish terrorism in 1948, > > > > as in massacring Palestinian villages? > > > > (by the Stern gang, and Menachim Begin's organisation) > > > > > > > > > I never said that, crank. What I said is that you are a fakestinian > > > lover. Typical of the lefturds. > > > > > > > But what is interesting is that you are still butthurt for > > > > > > > being exposed to have not grasped the Alveger experiment. > > > > > > Sigh. The problem is you not understanding that you don't > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > > > > > > So, do you still maintain that Alveger measured OWLS? > > > > Yes of course, what else could they possibly have done? > > > > > > I already explained that to you. You need to go back and re-read the post, > > > it was quite detailed. > > Yes, I remember. You completely misunderstood what it is all about. > > With things that are so thoroughly wrong > > there is no point in going into details. > > > Your ignorance is surpassed only by your arrogance, I will leave you bask > in both. Basking in good company. > > > OWLS is not measurable. Incidentally, wiki has a very good article on > > > this, I recommend that you read it and stop making a fool of yourself > > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_speed_of_light). Also, Zhang has a > > > very good chapter on this subject in his excellent book. > > Yes, I know, it is junk. They badly need a Deletian there, [1] > > > > Jan > > > It is taken almost ad literam from the excellent Zhang book. I was afraid of that. > Too bad that you are so arrogant to refuse to read it. Practicalities, I don't have it at hand. Not really a problem, from second hand comments it is obvious that it must be thoroughly misguided, like the entire conventionalist position. I won't waste much time on it. > > [1] For Prokary: sorry, if it was you who wrote it, > > but there is no point in mincing words. > > He didn't. Indeed, good for him, Jan
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 07:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d57a256d-5ab5-41c7-a79e-04bb081885e8n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618352 |
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 2:21:08 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2023-08-20 08:38:49 +0000, J. J. Lodder said: > > > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 9:01:21?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > >>> On 2023-08-19 15:24:30 +0000, Dono. said: > >>> > >>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:49:08?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden: > >>>> > >>>>>> The idea that the erstwhile greatness of the USA was based> > on > >>>>>> superior science and technology seems to have escaped him, > >>>>> Even half a century ago that was a myth. When I was doing my post-doc> > >>>>> at Berkeley (1967–1970) someone claimed to me that American education,> > >>>>> in physics and chemistry was the best in the world. If that was true, > >>>>> I> asked him, why it was that vitrtualy all the staff in the > >>>>> biochemistry> department had as many foreign post-docs as their grants > >>>>> could pay for?> He had no coherent answer. > >>>> The simple reason is that that is their ticket for remaining in the US. > >>> Wrong on both counts. First, I was asking why professors wanted to have > >>> foreign post-docs, not why foreign post-docs wanted to go there. > >>> Second, a J1 visa did not confer any right to stay in the USA; on the > >>> contrary, it required you to return to your home country for a > >>> specified period (a minimum of two years, I think). > >> > >> > >> It doesn't, it is simply a delay tactic until they get a job offer along > >> with the conversion to H1-B. > >> > >>>> As to the superiority in the education system, has it occurred to you > >>>> that this is why they flock to Berkley, Stanford, MIT, etc? > >>> I thought we were talking about high schools. > >> > >> You are the one who switched to your post-doc experience (at Berkeley)> > >> Remember? > > > > It is you who doesn't remember correctly. > > Athel replied to remarks by me about American decline in science and > > technology in general. > Yes. At least you don't need a remedial course in reading comprehension. > > Anyway, I'm interested to see that patdolan has a new right-wing racist > buddy. I had previously ignored Dono.'s repeated and deliberate > misquoting, because he was mainly directing it towards nutters. That > was wrong of me. Now I see that he must join Pentcho Valev, Ken Seto > and Lawrence Clark Crossen in my collection of liars. > > -- > athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots I wasn't misquoting you, I was simply pointing out that you are wrong about the US high school level. (while puffing yourself about the postdoc at Berkeley).
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 07:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bb5612e5-b1f8-448b-bfe0-1fdeb89f29c4n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618349 |
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:38:52 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 9:01:21?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > > On 2023-08-19 15:24:30 +0000, Dono. said: > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:49:08?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden: > > > > > > > >>> The idea that the erstwhile greatness of the USA was based> > on > > > >>> superior science and technology seems to have escaped him, > > > >> Even half a century ago that was a myth. When I was doing my post-doc> > > > >> at Berkeley (1967–1970) someone claimed to me that American education,> > > > >> in physics and chemistry was the best in the world. If that was true, > > > >> I> asked him, why it was that vitrtualy all the staff in the > > > >> biochemistry> department had as many foreign post-docs as their grants > > > >> could pay for?> He had no coherent answer. > > > > The simple reason is that that is their ticket for remaining in the US. > > > Wrong on both counts. First, I was asking why professors wanted to have > > > foreign post-docs, not why foreign post-docs wanted to go there. > > > Second, a J1 visa did not confer any right to stay in the USA; on the > > > contrary, it required you to return to your home country for a > > > specified period (a minimum of two years, I think). > > > > > > It doesn't, it is simply a delay tactic until they get a job offer along > > with the conversion to H1-B. > > > > > > As to the superiority in the education system, has it occurred to you > > > > that this is why they flock to Berkley, Stanford, MIT, etc? > > > I thought we were talking about high schools. > > > > You are the one who switched to your post-doc experience (at Berkeley)> > > Remember? > > It is you who doesn't remember correctly. > Athel replied to remarks by me about American decline in science and > technology in general. > > Jan Athel was puffing himself up about his postdoc at Berkeley. There is no "American decline" . As pointed out, the US high school students place in the top 3 at math/physics/chemistry Olympiads. While your Netherlands is at the bottom. So is Athel's UK / France.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 18:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qfrs3g.1mi9hih19lpsydN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #618362 |
Dono. <eggy20011951@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:38:52?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 9:01:21?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden: > > > > On 2023-08-19 15:24:30 +0000, Dono. said: > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:49:08?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden > > > > > > > > > >>> The idea that the erstwhile greatness of the USA was based> > on > > > > >>> superior science and technology seems to have escaped him, > > > > >> Even half a century ago that was a myth. When I was doing my > > > > >> post-doc> at Berkeley (1967–1970) someone claimed to me that > > > > >> American education,> in physics and chemistry was the best in the > > > > >> world. If that was true, I> asked him, why it was that vitrtualy > > > > >> all the staff in the biochemistry> department had as many foreign > > > > >> post-docs as their grants could pay for?> He had no coherent > > > > >> answer. > > > > > The simple reason is that that is their ticket for remaining in > > > > > the US. > > > > Wrong on both counts. First, I was asking why professors wanted to have > > > > foreign post-docs, not why foreign post-docs wanted to go there. > > > > Second, a J1 visa did not confer any right to stay in the USA; on the > > > > contrary, it required you to return to your home country for a > > > > specified period (a minimum of two years, I think). > > > > > > > > > It doesn't, it is simply a delay tactic until they get a job offer along > > > with the conversion to H1-B. > > > > > > > > As to the superiority in the education system, has it occurred to you > > > > > that this is why they flock to Berkley, Stanford, MIT, etc? > > > > I thought we were talking about high schools. > > > > > > You are the one who switched to your post-doc experience (at Berkeley)> > > > Remember? > > > > It is you who doesn't remember correctly. > > Athel replied to remarks by me about American decline in science and > > technology in general. > > > > Jan > > Athel was puffing himself up about his postdoc at Berkeley. I don't see any puff. AC-B actually was a post-doc at Berkely. (and he became a full-grown scientist there) > There is no "American decline" . Oh well, I suppose that if you insist you can argue that it never amounted to much to begin with. It has always depended on a strong inverse brain drain. The USA has found a way to make the rest of the world pay for the deficiencies of its own educational system. > As pointed out, the US high school students place in the top 3 at > math/physics/chemistry Olympiads. While your Netherlands is at the bottom. > So is Athel's UK / France. Yeah, sure. The problems with the American high school system are hardly news. See for example: Katherine Baird, Trapped in Mediocrity: Why Our Schools Aren't World-Class and What We Can Do About It. <https://www.amazon.com/Trapped-Mediocrity-Schools-Arent-World-Class/dp/144221547X> for an all-American analysis of it, Jan
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 09:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f9677890-bcba-4fc1-8ea0-e35d54097bean@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618370 |
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:13:12 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:38:52?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 9:01:21?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden: > > > > > On 2023-08-19 15:24:30 +0000, Dono. said: > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:49:08?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden > > > > > > > > > > > >>> The idea that the erstwhile greatness of the USA was based> > on > > > > > >>> superior science and technology seems to have escaped him, > > > > > >> Even half a century ago that was a myth. When I was doing my > > > > > >> post-doc> at Berkeley (1967–1970) someone claimed to me that > > > > > >> American education,> in physics and chemistry was the best in the > > > > > >> world. If that was true, I> asked him, why it was that vitrtualy > > > > > >> all the staff in the biochemistry> department had as many foreign > > > > > >> post-docs as their grants could pay for?> He had no coherent > > > > > >> answer. > > > > > > The simple reason is that that is their ticket for remaining in > > > > > > the US. > > > > > Wrong on both counts. First, I was asking why professors wanted to have > > > > > foreign post-docs, not why foreign post-docs wanted to go there. > > > > > Second, a J1 visa did not confer any right to stay in the USA; on the > > > > > contrary, it required you to return to your home country for a > > > > > specified period (a minimum of two years, I think). > > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't, it is simply a delay tactic until they get a job offer along > > > > with the conversion to H1-B. > > > > > > > > > > As to the superiority in the education system, has it occurred to you > > > > > > that this is why they flock to Berkley, Stanford, MIT, etc? > > > > > I thought we were talking about high schools. > > > > > > > > You are the one who switched to your post-doc experience (at Berkeley)> > > > > Remember? > > > > > > It is you who doesn't remember correctly. > > > Athel replied to remarks by me about American decline in science and > > > technology in general. > > > > > > Jan > > > > Athel was puffing himself up about his postdoc at Berkeley. > I don't see any puff. AC-B actually was a post-doc at Berkely. > (and he became a full-grown scientist there) > > There is no "American decline" . > Oh well, I suppose that if you insist you can argue > that it never amounted to much to begin with. > It has always depended on a strong inverse brain drain. > The USA has found a way to make the rest of the world pay > for the deficiencies of its own educational system. > > As pointed out, the US high school students place in the top 3 at > > math/physics/chemistry Olympiads. While your Netherlands is at the bottom. > > So is Athel's UK / France. > Yeah, sure. The problems with the American high school system are hardly > news. See for example: Katherine Baird, Trapped in Mediocrity: Why Our > Schools Aren't World-Class and What We Can Do About It. > <https://www.amazon.com/Trapped-Mediocrity-Schools-Arent-World-Class/dp/144221547X> > for an all-American analysis of it, > > Jan Yet, stubborn dumbfuck, the US teams win. While your country dwells at the bottom. Keep it up.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 18:26 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kket5jFmq0dU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #618370 |
On 2023-08-20 16:13:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder said: > Dono. <eggy20011951@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:38:52?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>> Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 9:01:21?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden: >>>>> On 2023-08-19 15:24:30 +0000, Dono. said: >>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:49:08?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden >>>>>> >>>>>>>> The idea that the erstwhile greatness of the USA was based> > on >>>>>>>> superior science and technology seems to have escaped him, >>>>>>> Even half a century ago that was a myth. When I was doing my >>>>>>> post-doc> at Berkeley (1967–1970) someone claimed to me that >>>>>>> American education,> in physics and chemistry was the best in the >>>>>>> world. If that was true, I> asked him, why it was that vitrtualy >>>>>>> all the staff in the biochemistry> department had as many foreign >>>>>>> post-docs as their grants could pay for?> He had no coherent >>>>>>> answer. >>>>>> The simple reason is that that is their ticket for remaining in >>>>>> the US. >>>>> Wrong on both counts. First, I was asking why professors wanted to have >>>>> foreign post-docs, not why foreign post-docs wanted to go there. >>>>> Second, a J1 visa did not confer any right to stay in the USA; on the >>>>> contrary, it required you to return to your home country for a >>>>> specified period (a minimum of two years, I think). >>>> >>>> >>>> It doesn't, it is simply a delay tactic until they get a job offer along >>>> with the conversion to H1-B. >>>> >>>>>> As to the superiority in the education system, has it occurred to you >>>>>> that this is why they flock to Berkley, Stanford, MIT, etc? >>>>> I thought we were talking about high schools. >>>> >>>> You are the one who switched to your post-doc experience (at Berkeley)> >>>> Remember? >>> >>> It is you who doesn't remember correctly. >>> Athel replied to remarks by me about American decline in science and >>> technology in general. >>> >>> Jan >> >> Athel was puffing himself up about his postdoc at Berkeley. > > I don't see any puff. AC-B actually was a post-doc at Berkely. > (and he became a full-grown scientist there) In any case, whatever reputation I may have today doesn't depend of whatever qualifications I may have had in 1967. > >> There is no "American decline" . > > Oh well, I suppose that if you insist you can argue > that it never amounted to much to begin with. > It has always depended on a strong inverse brain drain. > The USA has found a way to make the rest of the world pay > for the deficiencies of its own educational system. > >> As pointed out, the US high school students place in the top 3 at >> math/physics/chemistry Olympiads. While your Netherlands is at the bottom. >> So is Athel's UK / France. > > Yeah, sure. The problems with the American high school system are hardly > news. See for example: Katherine Baird, Trapped in Mediocrity: Why Our > Schools Aren't World-Class and What We Can Do About It. > <https://www.amazon.com/Trapped-Mediocrity-Schools-Arent-World-Class/dp/144221547X> > > for an all-American analysis of it, > > Jan -- athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qfryqx.6t3zw9id926nN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #618372 |
Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2023-08-20 16:13:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder said: > > > Dono. <eggy20011951@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:38:52?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >>> Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 9:01:21?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden: > >>>>> On 2023-08-19 15:24:30 +0000, Dono. said: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:49:08?AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The idea that the erstwhile greatness of the USA was based> > on > >>>>>>>> superior science and technology seems to have escaped him, > >>>>>>> Even half a century ago that was a myth. When I was doing my > >>>>>>> post-doc> at Berkeley (1967–1970) someone claimed to me that > >>>>>>> American education,> in physics and chemistry was the best in the > >>>>>>> world. If that was true, I> asked him, why it was that vitrtualy > >>>>>>> all the staff in the biochemistry> department had as many foreign > >>>>>>> post-docs as their grants could pay for?> He had no coherent > >>>>>>> answer. > >>>>>> The simple reason is that that is their ticket for remaining in > >>>>>> the US. > >>>>> Wrong on both counts. First, I was asking why professors wanted to have > >>>>> foreign post-docs, not why foreign post-docs wanted to go there. > >>>>> Second, a J1 visa did not confer any right to stay in the USA; on the > >>>>> contrary, it required you to return to your home country for a > >>>>> specified period (a minimum of two years, I think). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> It doesn't, it is simply a delay tactic until they get a job offer along > >>>> with the conversion to H1-B. > >>>> > >>>>>> As to the superiority in the education system, has it occurred to you > >>>>>> that this is why they flock to Berkley, Stanford, MIT, etc? > >>>>> I thought we were talking about high schools. > >>>> > >>>> You are the one who switched to your post-doc experience (at Berkeley)> > >>>> Remember? > >>> > >>> It is you who doesn't remember correctly. > >>> Athel replied to remarks by me about American decline in science and > >>> technology in general. > >>> > >>> Jan > >> > >> Athel was puffing himself up about his postdoc at Berkeley. > > > > I don't see any puff. AC-B actually was a post-doc at Berkely. > > (and he became a full-grown scientist there) > > In any case, whatever reputation I may have today doesn't depend of > whatever qualifications I may have had in 1967. No, of course not. This is just Dono going into ad-hominem mode to distract attention from the fact that American science and technology is largely parasitic. They are dependent on importing free (to them) talent from all over the world. It is a form of the rich stealing from the poor, Jan
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 10:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <66fcd7cb-8f08-4090-956c-84d90ddf0320n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618380 |
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:57:00 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > American science > and technology is largely parasitic. > Just when I thought that you couldn't stoop any lower. > They are dependent on importing free (to them) talent from all over the world. > It is a form of the rich stealing from the poor, > Lefturdism is a mental disease. An incurable one. The kids that beat the stuffing out of the European teams at the Olympiads are US born.
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 09:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <99d37d27-1a1d-4417-af4b-11fcf1959a92n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618370 |
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:13:12 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > See for example: Katherine Baird, Trapped in Mediocrity: Why Our > Schools Aren't World-Class and What We Can Do About It. > <https://www.amazon.com/Trapped-Mediocrity-Schools-Arent-World-Class/dp/144221547X> > for an all-American analysis of it, I agree with the intro of her book. I can only hope that once inside the book she doesn't advocate for : -critical race theory -making math "equitable" ...any other leftard bullshit that is what is really wasting the time of American students. US students win at Olympiads despite and in spite of the leftard ideas about what teaching should be all about.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200 |
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| In reply to | #618374 |
Dono. <eggy20011951@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:13:12?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > See for example: Katherine Baird, Trapped in Mediocrity: Why Our > > Schools Aren't World-Class and What We Can Do About It. > > <https://www.amazon.com/Trapped-Mediocrity-Schools-Arent-World-Class/dp/1442 21547X> > > for an all-American analysis of it, > > > I agree with the intro of her book. I can only hope that once inside the > book she doesn't advocate for : > > -critical race theory making math "equitable" > > ...any other leftard bullshit that is what is really wasting the time of > American students. US students win at Olympiads despite and in spite of > the leftard ideas about what teaching should be all about. Do try to calm down. Sit on your hands for a while. You have allowed yourself to get worked up beyond all reason, Jan
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| From | RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-23 15:10 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #618370 |
On August 20, J. J. Lodder wrote: >> As pointed out, the US high school students place in the top 3 at >> math/physics/chemistry Olympiads. > > Yeah, sure. Olympic athletes aren't representative of the population. > The problems with the American high school system are hardly > news. See for example: Katherine Baird, Trapped in Mediocrity: Why Our > Schools Aren't World-Class and What We Can Do About It Check this shocking yet unsurprising recent case, from NYC: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=gJKhN2zgJoJVQi1ni3dxcg== A white bureaucrat sued the school system, claiming discrimination. It's a long document, set your word processor to to search for "white" For instance: "White culture's values are homogeneous and supremacist; that the "Protestant work ethic" is an example of White Supremacy and "[Chislett's] interest in excellence was perfectionism and consistent with White Supremacy" Thus USA decays into socialist tribalism, as ethnic groups fight for political influence, to grab larger shares of a shrinking pie - -- Rich
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-24 14:02 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qfymh4.148jcng1ep0mh2N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #618721 |
RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > On August 20, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >> As pointed out, the US high school students place in the top 3 at > >> math/physics/chemistry Olympiads. > > > > Yeah, sure. > > Olympic athletes aren't representative of the population. > > > The problems with the American high school system are hardly > > news. See for example: Katherine Baird, Trapped in Mediocrity: Why Our > > Schools Aren't World-Class and What We Can Do About It > > Check this shocking yet unsurprising recent case, from NYC: > https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=gJKhN2zgJoJVQi1n i3dxcg== Broken link or server. > A white bureaucrat sued the school system, claiming discrimination. > It's a long document, set your word processor to to search for "white" > > For instance: > "White culture's values are homogeneous and supremacist; that > the "Protestant work ethic" is an example of White Supremacy > and "[Chislett's] interest in excellence was perfectionism and > consistent with White Supremacy" > > Thus USA decays into socialist tribalism, as ethnic groups fight for > political influence, to grab larger shares of a shrinking pie - ROTFL. 'Socialist tribalism', sure. Americans are completely clueless about things like 'socialism'. (the real thing) I will agree with you that the USA is descending into tribalism, sectarian quarrels, and crazy and blind partisanship, but none of it is 'socialist', except perhaps in their perverted sense of the word, Jan
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| From | RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-24 11:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a7b9cbc9-5043-47ae-805f-4349f146513bn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618762 |
On August 24, J. J. Lodder wrote: >> > The problems with the American high school system are hardly >> > news. See for example: Katherine Baird, Trapped in Mediocrity: Why Our >> > Schools Aren't World-Class and What We Can Do About It > > > Check this shocking yet unsurprising recent case, from NYC: > > https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=gJKhN2zgJoJVQi1n > i3dxcg== > > Broken link or server. It works. Copy it across lines, then copy it into the address bar. Search for "white", if you're interested. This type of thing never happened in the past, it's the result of 60 years of pseudo-intellectual liberal/socialist class war propaganda. >> A white bureaucrat sued the school system, claiming discrimination. >> For instance: >> "White culture's values are homogeneous and supremacist; that >> the "Protestant work ethic" is an example of White Supremacy >> and "[Chislett's] interest in excellence was perfectionism and >> consistent with White Supremacy" >> >> Thus USA decays into socialist tribalism, as ethnic groups fight for >> political influence, to grab larger shares of a shrinking pie - >> ROTFL. 'Socialist tribalism', sure. > Americans are completely clueless about things like 'socialism'. > (the real thing) > I will agree with you that the USA is descending into tribalism, > sectarian quarrels, and crazy and blind partisanship, > but none of it is 'socialist', > except perhaps in their perverted sense of the word. yeah, an accurate sense of socialism is 'sharing' ... A picture is worth a thousand words: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_lamprey#/media/File:Pacific_lamprey_facing_right.jpg https://thakurfahad.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/noname.jpg https://wuweixp.com/democracy-under-attack/ "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." - G. Orwell: "Animal Farm" Do Orwell's books get any traction in Europe? He was the great prophet of the last century. They used to be popular here, but no longer - the left doesn't approve of his blunt portrayals of their agenda - (he was also banned in the soviet block) -- Rich
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-25 21:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qfzpib.1fh2hrnrid3dvN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #618786 |
RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > On August 24, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >> > The problems with the American high school system are hardly > >> > news. See for example: Katherine Baird, Trapped in Mediocrity: Why Our > >> > Schools Aren't World-Class and What We Can Do About It > > > > > Check this shocking yet unsurprising recent case, from NYC: > > > https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=gJKhN2zgJoJV Qi1n > > i3dxcg== > > > > Broken link or server. > > It works. Copy it across lines, then copy it into the address bar. > Search for "white", if you're interested. > > This type of thing never happened in the past, it's the result of > 60 years of pseudo-intellectual liberal/socialist class war propaganda. OK,OK, Enough, enough. I really should have known better. The good old rule of the thumb applies still. "Never discus politics with Americans who want to. They are all crazy." > >> A white bureaucrat sued the school system, claiming discrimination. > >> For instance: > >> "White culture's values are homogeneous and supremacist; that > >> the "Protestant work ethic" is an example of White Supremacy > >> and "[Chislett's] interest in excellence was perfectionism and > >> consistent with White Supremacy" > >> > >> Thus USA decays into socialist tribalism, as ethnic groups fight for > >> political influence, to grab larger shares of a shrinking pie - > > >> ROTFL. 'Socialist tribalism', sure. > > Americans are completely clueless about things like 'socialism'. > > (the real thing) > > I will agree with you that the USA is descending into tribalism, > > sectarian quarrels, and crazy and blind partisanship, > > but none of it is 'socialist', > > except perhaps in their perverted sense of the word. > > yeah, an accurate sense of socialism is 'sharing' ... > A picture is worth a thousand words: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_lamprey#/media/File:Pacific_lamprey_faci ng_right.jpg > https://thakurfahad.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/noname.jpg > https://wuweixp.com/democracy-under-attack/ > > > "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." > - G. Orwell: "Animal Farm" > > Do Orwell's books get any traction in Europe? Yes of course. Orwell is still hugely popular in Europe among high school students. They have to learn English, so they have to read English books. The easier and the shorter the better of course. 'Animal Farm is their favorite, after Winnie the Pooh. And '1984' too, but less so. Too much digging in depth there, and by now too obsolete. > He was the great prophet of the last century. They used to be popular > here, but no longer - the left doesn't approve of his blunt portrayals of > their agenda - > (he was also banned in the soviet block) Yes, yes, crazy, crazy. No one except crazy Americans sees Orwell's books as having anything to do with 'socialism'. (their take on it) Orwell is obviously caricaturing Stalinism, and ruthless power hunger in general, Jan
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| From | RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-19 11:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <60505c78-ddf3-4dbc-b5d9-7d13dd1fb13bn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618271 |
On August 19, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: >> As to the superiority in the education system, has it occurred to you >> that this is why they flock to Berkley, Stanford, MIT, etc? > > I thought we were talking about high schools. Last I heard none of the > places you mention were high schools. Some explanations: From the Cal. Board of Education 2023 Math Framework: https://www.cde.ca.gov/ci/ma/cf/documents/mathfwchapter2sbe.docx "Teaching for Equity and Engagement " https://www.cde.ca.gov/ci/ma/cf/documents/mathfwchapter9sbe.docx "Structuring School Experiences for Equity and Engagement" Washington: https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/socialstudies/pubdocs/Math%20SDS%20ES%20Framework.pdf "MATH ETHNIC STUDIES" Hawaii: https://math.hawaii.edu/~mchyba/documents/syllabus/Math499/Ethnomath/Ambrosio1.pdf "ETHNOMATHEMATICS" You ought to be pleased, USA is descending into the Eurosocialist cesspool... but now, added to the usual labor/management class war, we have race war... no need to get the right answers, bro, the REAL problem is your legacy of discrimination, the IMPORTANT thing is your self esteem. Meanwhile, in Korea, the educracy is crying into their kombucha, mortified that their kids merely get the correct answers, while lacking sensitivity to ethnicity, equity, and victimization - -- Rich
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-19 20:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9ec08f93-9975-49e6-9cb8-714614869f7fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618290 |
On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:22:03 AM UTC-7, RichD wrote: > On August 19, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > >> As to the superiority in the education system, has it occurred to you > >> that this is why they flock to Berkley, Stanford, MIT, etc? > > > > I thought we were talking about high schools. Last I heard none of the > > places you mention were high schools. > Some explanations: > From the Cal. Board of Education 2023 Math Framework: > https://www.cde.ca.gov/ci/ma/cf/documents/mathfwchapter2sbe.docx > "Teaching for Equity and Engagement " > https://www.cde.ca.gov/ci/ma/cf/documents/mathfwchapter9sbe.docx > "Structuring School Experiences for Equity and Engagement" > > Washington: > https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/socialstudies/pubdocs/Math%20SDS%20ES%20Framework.pdf > "MATH ETHNIC STUDIES" > > Hawaii: > https://math.hawaii.edu/~mchyba/documents/syllabus/Math499/Ethnomath/Ambrosio1.pdf > "ETHNOMATHEMATICS" > > You ought to be pleased, USA is descending into the Eurosocialist cesspool... > but now, added to the usual labor/management class war, we have race war... > no need to get the right answers, bro, the REAL problem is your legacy of > discrimination, the IMPORTANT thing is your self esteem. > > Meanwhile, in Korea, the educracy is crying into their kombucha, mortified > that their kids merely get the correct answers, while lacking sensitivity to > ethnicity, equity, and victimization - > > -- > Rich Despite the rabid lefturd tilt towards force feeding critical race theory and other rubbish of the same kind, the US high school students still manage to score in the top 3 at the math/physics/chemistry Olympiad. For how long, remains to be seen.... At the same time, UK, France, Germany bring up the trailing end.....
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-19 22:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7380913d-1289-4bda-b7f4-ca5e5d43d74fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618333 |
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 12:10:12 AM UTC-3, Dono. wrote: <snip> > Despite the rabid lefturd tilt towards force feeding critical race theory and other rubbish of the same kind, the US high school students still manage to score in the top 3 at the math/physics/chemistry Olympiad. For how long, remains to be seen.... > At the same time, UK, France, Germany bring up the trailing end..... Russia is banned, asshole. If not, they would make all sort of new orifices in participants, judges and public.
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