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List of Critics of Relativity:

Started byLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
First post2023-08-16 17:38 -0700
Last post2023-08-29 09:45 -0700
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  List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:38 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-17 12:05 +1000
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:18 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:19 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-17 13:24 -0500
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-19 06:58 +0200
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:19 +0200
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 23:24 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-20 07:08 +0200
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:16 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:06 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:19 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 19:53 -0400
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 17:31 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 18:34 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 19:40 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:10 -0700
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:57 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 00:19 -0400
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 21:34 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:08 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 15:13 -0500
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:28 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:43 -0500
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 15:04 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 21:19 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 02:05 -0400
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:17 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 15:32 +0200
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:47 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:57 +0200
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:13 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:15 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:33 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:14 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:48 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:57 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:04 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:48 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 15:13 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-17 17:46 -0500
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:29 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:40 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 20:06 -0400
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 09:20 +0200
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:23 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:34 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 15:03 -0500
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:44 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-08-17 08:13 -0600
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:59 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:18 -0700
    Cranks Richard Hertz and Laurence Crossen run out of arguments "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 09:37 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:50 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:12 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:36 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:49 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:43 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 23:13 +0200
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:44 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-18 12:45 +0200
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 04:08 -0700
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:32 +0200
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:16 -0700
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:19 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:00 +0200
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:54 -0500
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:48 -0700
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 16:49 -0500
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:18 -0700
                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ben Harin <ianr@ninrbnnr.nn> - 2023-08-18 23:27 +0000
                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 15:40 -0500
                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 19:23 -0500
                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:56 -0700
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:18 -0400
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:19 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:04 +0200
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:46 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:53 -0500
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:21 -0400
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Wayne Bereznevich <nwne@czewnebe.ze> - 2023-08-18 22:37 +0000
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:49 -0400
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Elton Vakar <eero@aklenaoo.av> - 2023-08-18 23:07 +0000
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:19 -0700
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Merlan Bauze <emeu@eabezeel.bn> - 2023-08-19 10:13 +0000
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 15:39 -0700
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:21 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:56 -0500
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 10:22 +0200
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:31 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 21:40 +0200
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 13:24 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-18 10:56 -0700
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:08 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:16 -0700
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-18 11:36 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 10:22 +0200
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:49 +0200
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:24 -0700
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:51 -0700
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:01 +0200
                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:16 -0700
                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:51 +0200
                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:06 -0700
                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:30 -0700
                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:21 +0200
                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 12:56 +0200
                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:02 -0700
                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 16:49 +0200
                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:57 -0700
                                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:35 +0200
                                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:43 -0700
                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:35 +0200
                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 08:13 -0700
                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 08:26 -0700
                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:13 +0200
                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:27 -0700
                                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
                                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 10:04 -0700
                                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 19:49 +0200
                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:07 -0700
                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:29 -0700
                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 20:30 +0200
                                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:05 -0700
                                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 23:15 -0700
                                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 23:28 -0700
                                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 10:36 +0200
                                                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 06:21 -0700
                                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 06:40 -0700
                                                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 07:11 -0700
                                                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 07:29 -0700
                                                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 08:13 -0700
                                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:49 -0700
                                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:58 -0700
                                                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 07:53 -0700
                                                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 18:03 +0200
                                                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:50 -0700
                                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
                                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
                                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 00:38 -0700
                                                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 01:02 -0700
                                                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 11:54 +0200
                                                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 03:05 -0700
                                                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 09:38 -0500
                                                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 20:05 +0200
                                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 19:52 -0500
                                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 11:08 +0200
                                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 13:15 -0700
                                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-23 15:52 -0500
                                                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 11:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 14:39 -0400
                                                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-09-03 17:48 -0700
                                                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:19 -0700
                                                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 22:58 +0200
                                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 21:41 -0400
                                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 11:08 +0200
                                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 22:36 -0700
                                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 01:01 -0700
                                                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 11:54 +0200
                                                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 23:06 -0700
                                                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 23:23 -0700
                                                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 12:01 +0200
                                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 03:10 -0700
                                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 04:22 -0700
                                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 13:55 +0200
                                                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:08 -0700
                                                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 15:56 -0700
                                                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-24 14:02 +0200
                                                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 05:53 -0700
                                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 13:31 -0700
                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:36 -0700
                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Delmer Tupalo <rptm@lmlelodl.el> - 2023-08-20 18:44 +0000
                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:29 -0400
                                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Travis Bazili <aail@ttttviat.sv> - 2023-08-23 09:38 +0000
                                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:48 -0500
                                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Clarence Talkovsky <nskl@eccaryec.kv> - 2023-08-23 11:53 +0000
                                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:11 -0700
                                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:04 -0700
                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:10 -0700
                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:13 +0200
                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:23 -0700
                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:26 +0200
                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 10:07 -0700
                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:32 -0700
                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
                                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 15:10 -0700
                                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-24 14:02 +0200
                                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 11:36 -0700
                                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-25 21:45 +0200
                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-19 11:22 -0700
                                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 20:10 -0700
                                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:15 -0700
                                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-20 11:52 -0400
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Brett Harkharov <aaah@rthtrath.rk> - 2023-08-19 17:12 +0000
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 08:08 -0500
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:34 -0700
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 02:50 -0400
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Chico Patsalo <tpac@slsialct.ac> - 2023-08-19 10:41 +0000
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:22 -0500
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 14:45 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 03:56 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 08:36 -0500
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:09 -0700
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:43 -0700
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 19:18 -0400
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:01 -0700
                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-20 12:13 -0400
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 17:52 +0200
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:47 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:55 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:40 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 09:12 +0200
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 00:32 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:24 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:31 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:46 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:52 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:06 +0200
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 06:17 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:14 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:40 -0400
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Shon Babukh <koun@bnbuboab.ob> - 2023-08-18 23:38 +0000
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 20:04 +0200
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 13:34 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:10 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 20:04 +0200
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:06 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:37 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:21 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:28 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 13:05 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:47 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-20 01:55 +0200
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 19:19 -0500
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 15:43 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 16:15 -0700
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:09 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:20 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 19:11 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:02 -0700
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-20 07:07 +0200
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:59 -0500
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:53 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 12:39 +0200
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:25 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:55 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 20:56 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:09 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:03 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:17 -0700
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:38 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 00:35 -0400
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 21:52 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 10:36 +0200
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 22:46 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 10:03 -0500
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:30 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:50 -0400
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 17:09 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:34 -0400
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 22:42 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 15:30 -0400
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:12 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:18 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:38 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:05 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:41 -0400
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:48 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-21 19:11 -0500
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 18:56 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-21 23:33 -0500
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:52 -0700
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:07 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:13 -0700
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 22:24 -0500
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:34 -0700
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:41 -0700
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:53 -0700
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-22 09:58 -0500
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:19 -0400
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 22:25 -0700
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 10:47 -0700
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 11:28 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-22 14:06 -0500
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 22:17 -0400
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:07 -0700
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:09 -0700
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 23:20 -0500
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 21:49 -0700
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 10:46 -0700
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 00:44 -0400
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Colby Zolotar <bolr@obzooota.yr> - 2023-08-24 09:32 +0000
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 10:50 -0700
                                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 14:28 -0400
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 21:50 -0700
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 06:58 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:26 -0400
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 10:41 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 22:21 -0400
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:10 -0700
                            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-23 01:24 -0400
                              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 22:59 -0700
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-21 23:58 -0700
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-22 15:19 -0700
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-22 17:49 -0700
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:06 -0700
                          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Evenezer Peltser <etpv@pverreet.zz> - 2023-08-23 11:04 +0000
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:04 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:09 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-21 21:25 +0000
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:18 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:43 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 00:13 -0400
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:15 +0200
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 18:43 -0500
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:52 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:51 -0500
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:50 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:01 -0400
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:06 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:07 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:10 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:17 -0700
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:26 -0700
                Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:31 -0400
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 01:00 -0700
                  Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Williard Bah <rhab@ihdiadrd.lw> - 2023-08-23 10:30 +0000
                    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:57 -0500
                      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Basil Hariton <athi@iaribinh.bo> - 2023-08-23 11:51 +0000
                        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 07:48 -0500
              Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 20:07 -0500
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:21 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:41 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 18:07 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:52 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:58 -0700
            Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
    Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 08:51 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 09:55 -0700
      Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-28 15:20 -0700
        Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 06:09 -0700
          Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-29 09:45 -0700

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#618158

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-18 21:04 +0200
Message-ID<kk9tljFt61sU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#618149
On 2023-08-18 18:19:39 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:

> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:45:15 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:13:50?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:> 
>>> > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:> > > > On 
>>> Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:40:14?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:> > > 
>>> > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > On 
>>> Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:> > 
>>> > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > 
>>> > >> > > > > > > > List of Critics of Relativity:> > > > > > > [list]> 
>>> > > > > > > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book:> > > > > > 
>>> > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931)> > > > > > > is still to the 
>>> point:> > > > > > > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen."> > > 
>>> > > > > (English)> > > > > > > "One would have sufficed, if they had 
>>> been right",> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Jan> > > > > > Here's an English 
>>> translation so you can give me chapter and verse:> > > > > > HUNDRED 
>>> AUTHORS AGAINST EINSTEIN -ROUGH TRANSLATION Roger J Anderton> > > > > > 
>>> R.J.Anderton@btinternet> > > > > Wrong way round: you started it,> > > 
>>> > > you should point out someone in it who made a valuable 
>>> contribution.> > > > >> > > > > BTW, you are again making it obvious> > 
>>> > > > that you are praising a book that you have not even glanced at.> 
>>> > > > >> > > > > If you had, you would have known> > > > > that they 
>>> never succeeded in getting anywhere near> > > > > that 100 authors that 
>>> the title promisses.> > > > >> > > > > Jan> > > > Aren't you as silly 
>>> as can be, demanding they have more authors for you to> > > > take them 
>>> seriously.> > > See, you know nothing about it.> > > In 1920 a 
>>> proto-nazi I won't mention> > > organised anti-Einstein rallies in 
>>> Berlin,> > > filling even a stadium with it.> > > (a whole shouting 
>>> stadium, if that isn't convincing, what is)> > > He then decided to 
>>> publish an anti-Einstein book, out of what he had.> > > Originally, in 
>>> the original enthousiasm> > > more than a hundred people promised a 
>>> contribution.> > >> > > They had been assuming that it would become a 
>>> publication> > > to be taken seriously.> > > When they realised what 
>>> kind of crap it was going to be> > > most of the hundred+ declined to 
>>> contribute after all.> > > If you have a good name, why waste it?> > >> 
>>> > > So finally after ten years of begging, needling, pushing and so on> 
>>> > > they decided to make do with the crap they had. (1931)> > > (38 
>>> authors, iirc)> > >> > > So there really wasn't anything for Einstein 
>>> to answer,> > >> > > Jan> > As usual, all you have is an ad hominem 
>>> begging of the question and a> > refusal to answer the criticisms.> >
>> Don't so lazy. The full original text is on-line at> 
>> <https://archive.org/stream/HundertAutorenGegenEinstein/Hundert%20Autoren%20gegen%20Einstein%20%281931%29_djvu.txt>> 
>> English translation already mentioned at> 
>> <https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Relativity%20Theory/Download/8680>>> 
>> Extract some (according to you) still relevant and meaningful 
>> criticism> of relativity, and we can discuss that,>> Jan>> [correction: 
>> it was 28 authors, not 38, as I incorrectly remembered]
> What kind of predator attacks the weak?

Virtually all. It's the sensible thing to do. Apparently you know as 
little basic biology as you do basic physics. The only thing you know 
how to do is to give a 5-star "review" to a book you haven't read.

>  Why wouldn't you start with the strongest critics if relativity can be 
> defended at all?


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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#618172

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-18 13:46 -0700
Message-ID<8154e329-aa12-4156-9183-a78a4842429bn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618158
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:04:23 PM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2023-08-18 18:19:39 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: 
> 
> > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:45:15 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> >> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:13:50?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:> 
> >>> > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:> > > > On 
> >>> Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:40:14?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:> > > 
> >>> > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > On 
> >>> Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:> > 
> >>> > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > 
> >>> > >> > > > > > > > List of Critics of Relativity:> > > > > > > [list]> 
> >>> > > > > > > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book:> > > > > > 
> >>> > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931)> > > > > > > is still to the 
> >>> point:> > > > > > > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen."> > > 
> >>> > > > > (English)> > > > > > > "One would have sufficed, if they had 
> >>> been right",> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Jan> > > > > > Here's an English 
> >>> translation so you can give me chapter and verse:> > > > > > HUNDRED 
> >>> AUTHORS AGAINST EINSTEIN -ROUGH TRANSLATION Roger J Anderton> > > > > > 
> >>> R.J.Anderton@btinternet> > > > > Wrong way round: you started it,> > > 
> >>> > > you should point out someone in it who made a valuable 
> >>> contribution.> > > > >> > > > > BTW, you are again making it obvious> > 
> >>> > > > that you are praising a book that you have not even glanced at.> 
> >>> > > > >> > > > > If you had, you would have known> > > > > that they 
> >>> never succeeded in getting anywhere near> > > > > that 100 authors that 
> >>> the title promisses.> > > > >> > > > > Jan> > > > Aren't you as silly 
> >>> as can be, demanding they have more authors for you to> > > > take them 
> >>> seriously.> > > See, you know nothing about it.> > > In 1920 a 
> >>> proto-nazi I won't mention> > > organised anti-Einstein rallies in 
> >>> Berlin,> > > filling even a stadium with it.> > > (a whole shouting 
> >>> stadium, if that isn't convincing, what is)> > > He then decided to 
> >>> publish an anti-Einstein book, out of what he had.> > > Originally, in 
> >>> the original enthousiasm> > > more than a hundred people promised a 
> >>> contribution.> > >> > > They had been assuming that it would become a 
> >>> publication> > > to be taken seriously.> > > When they realised what 
> >>> kind of crap it was going to be> > > most of the hundred+ declined to 
> >>> contribute after all.> > > If you have a good name, why waste it?> > >> 
> >>> > > So finally after ten years of begging, needling, pushing and so on> 
> >>> > > they decided to make do with the crap they had. (1931)> > > (38 
> >>> authors, iirc)> > >> > > So there really wasn't anything for Einstein 
> >>> to answer,> > >> > > Jan> > As usual, all you have is an ad hominem 
> >>> begging of the question and a> > refusal to answer the criticisms.> > 
> >> Don't so lazy. The full original text is on-line at> 
> >> <https://archive.org/stream/HundertAutorenGegenEinstein/Hundert%20Autoren%20gegen%20Einstein%20%281931%29_djvu.txt>> 
> >> English translation already mentioned at> 
> >> <https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Relativity%20Theory/Download/8680>>> 
> >> Extract some (according to you) still relevant and meaningful 
> >> criticism> of relativity, and we can discuss that,>> Jan>> [correction: 
> >> it was 28 authors, not 38, as I incorrectly remembered] 
> > What kind of predator attacks the weak?
> Virtually all. It's the sensible thing to do. Apparently you know as 
> little basic biology as you do basic physics. The only thing you know 
> how to do is to give a 5-star "review" to a book you haven't read.
> > Why wouldn't you start with the strongest critics if relativity can be 
> > defended at all?
> -- 
> athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
I know weasels prey on eggs.

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#618160

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-08-18 14:53 -0500
Message-ID<kka0icFtipsU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#618149
On 8/18/2023 1:19 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:45:15 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:


>> Don't so lazy. The full original text is on-line at
>> <https://archive.org/stream/HundertAutorenGegenEinstein/Hundert%20Autoren%20gegen%20Einstein%20%281931%29_djvu.txt>
>> English translation already mentioned at
>> <https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Relativity%20Theory/Download/8680>
>>
>> Extract some (according to you) still relevant and meaningful criticism
>> of relativity, and we can discuss that,
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> [correction: it was 28 authors, not 38, as I incorrectly remembered]

> What kind of predator attacks the weak? Why wouldn't you start with the strongest critics if relativity can be defended at all?

ALL predators. You are an idiot.

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#618346

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Message-ID<1qfph16.9b5tnzw2bo0dN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#618160
whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> wrote:

> On 8/18/2023 1:19 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:45:15?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> 
> 
> >> Don't so lazy. The full original text is on-line at
> >> <https://archive.org/stream/HundertAutorenGegenEinstein/Hundert%20Autoren%2
0gegen%20Einstein%20%281931%29_djvu.txt>
> >> English translation already mentioned at
> >> <https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Relativity%20The
ory/Download/8680>
> >>
> >> Extract some (according to you) still relevant and meaningful criticism
> >> of relativity, and we can discuss that,
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>
> >> [correction: it was 28 authors, not 38, as I incorrectly remembered]
> 
> > What kind of predator attacks the weak? Why wouldn't you start with the
> > strongest critics if relativity can be defended at all?
> > 
> ALL predators. You are an idiot.

Yes, and that is why predators are believed to be -a good thing-.
They eliminate the weak, the elderly, and generally the unfit,
and keep the prey population healthy.

However: some prey are so weak that they don't need a predator.
They eliminate themselves, and end up in a zoo, or an asylum,
like this forum, where they are kept for amusement value,

Jan

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#618185

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-08-18 18:21 -0400
Message-ID<uboqtg$dnvd$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#618149
On 8/18/2023 2:19 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> What kind of predator attacks the weak?

They all do.

Which zebra in a herd gets eaten by the lions? The slowest one.

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#618187

FromWayne Bereznevich <nwne@czewnebe.ze>
Date2023-08-18 22:37 +0000
Message-ID<uborr1$d5aq$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#618185
Volney wrote:

> On 8/18/2023 2:19 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
>> What kind of predator attacks the weak?
> 
> They all do. 
> Which zebra in a herd gets eaten by the lions? The slowest one.

wow, that's why america attacks Afghanistan, Libya and Nicaragua?? Wow.

𝗔𝗨𝗦𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗔_𝗠𝗢𝗗𝗘𝗥𝗡𝗔_𝗜𝗦_𝗛𝗘𝗥𝗘_𝗧𝗢_𝗠𝗔𝗞𝗘_𝗣𝗥𝗢𝗙𝗜𝗧𝗦_𝗡𝗢𝗧_𝗧𝗢_𝗣𝗔𝗬_𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗣𝗘𝗡𝗦𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡_𝗙𝗢𝗥_𝗩𝗔𝗫_𝗜𝗡𝗝𝗨𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗦 
https://bit%63%68ute.com/video/YkjmNcDPHMex

𝗧𝗛𝗘_𝗗𝗢𝗗_&_𝗖𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗟_𝗕𝗔𝗡𝗞𝗦_𝗖𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗧𝗘𝗗_𝗧𝗛𝗘_𝗖𝗢𝗩𝗜𝗗_19_𝗞𝗜𝗟𝗟_𝗕𝗢𝗫_𝗜𝗧𝗦_𝗔_𝗝𝗢𝗜𝗡𝗧_𝗠𝗜𝗟𝗜𝗧𝗔𝗥𝗬_𝗢𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡
https://bit%63%68ute.com/video/0SXapJnLpbm9

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#618190

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-08-18 18:49 -0400
Message-ID<ubosgt$e1sq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#618187
On 8/18/2023 6:37 PM, Wayne Bereznevich wrote:
> Volney wrote:
> 
>> On 8/18/2023 2:19 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> What kind of predator attacks the weak?
>>
>> They all do.
>> Which zebra in a herd gets eaten by the lions? The slowest one.
> 
> wow, that's why america attacks Afghanistan, Libya and Nicaragua?? Wow.

More like how Nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 attacks countries like Georgia. And 
Ukraine, twice. But 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 screwed up, the second time Ukraine was 
no longer a weakling, and they're doing a great job kicking 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 
ass, considering the size difference.

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#618193

FromElton Vakar <eero@aklenaoo.av>
Date2023-08-18 23:07 +0000
Message-ID<ubotkb$e89i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#618190
Volney wrote:

> On 8/18/2023 6:37 PM, Wayne Bereznevich wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>>> On 8/18/2023 2:19 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>> What kind of predator attacks the weak?
>>>
>>> They all do.
>>> Which zebra in a herd gets eaten by the lions? The slowest one.
>> 
>> wow, that's why america attacks Afghanistan, Libya and Nicaragua?? Wow.
> 
> More like how Nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 attacks countries like Georgia. And

that's 𝗻𝗼𝘁_𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲, but less. 𝗬𝗼𝘂_𝗮𝗿𝗲_𝗹𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗮𝗴𝗮𝗶𝗻. The entire 𝗻𝗮𝘇𝗶_𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗼 shit
𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱_𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲_𝗶𝗻_𝘂𝗸𝘂𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗮_𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗯𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗱𝘆_𝗮𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻_𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗽_𝗱𝗲𝘁𝗮𝘁_2014. The
american thefts 𝗮𝗿𝗲_𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗻𝗮𝘇𝗶𝘀_𝗼𝗳_𝘂𝗸𝘂𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗮 since accordingly
𝗮𝗻𝗱_𝗮𝗱𝗺𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗱𝗹𝘆_1993.

that's again the work of capitalist america, you despicable lying shit. 
Beyond 𝐎𝐡𝐦'𝐬 𝐋𝐚𝐰 𝐨𝐟 𝐜𝐢𝐫𝐜𝐮𝐢𝐭𝐫𝐲 you know nothing at all.

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#618195

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-18 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<ff18cfd5-a310-43c6-a9e8-9bd1d3ddaf20n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618190
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:49:03 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> On 8/18/2023 6:37 PM, Wayne Bereznevich wrote: 
> > Volney wrote: 
> > 
> >> On 8/18/2023 2:19 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>> What kind of predator attacks the weak? 
> >> 
> >> They all do. 
> >> Which zebra in a herd gets eaten by the lions? The slowest one. 
> > 
> > wow, that's why america attacks Afghanistan, Libya and Nicaragua?? Wow.
> More like how Nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 attacks countries like Georgia. And 
> Ukraine, twice. But 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 screwed up, the second time Ukraine was 
> no longer a weakling, and they're doing a great job kicking 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 
> ass, considering the size difference.

Clearly, you're more ((( ))) than Zelensky.

Irish my ass.

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#618249

FromMerlan Bauze <emeu@eabezeel.bn>
Date2023-08-19 10:13 +0000
Message-ID<ubq4jf$oseu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#618195
Richard Hertz wrote:

>> >> They all do.
>> >> Which zebra in a herd gets eaten by the lions? The slowest one.
>> > 
>> > 𝘄𝗼𝘄,_𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁'𝘀_𝘄𝗵𝘆_𝗮𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮_𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀_𝗔𝗳𝗴𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗻,_𝗟𝗶𝗯𝘆𝗮_𝗮𝗻𝗱_𝗡𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗴𝘂𝗮??
>> > 𝗪𝗼𝘄.
>> More like how N̵̶͎̞͙̳̘͕̭̏͋̇̏̈́͘͝͝à̶̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽z̶i̶̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕f̴̶̡̱̣͇̙̹͆́́͘͝͠i̶̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕e̵̶̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝ḑ̶̶̙͇̰̗̦̠̽ 卐R̷̶̠͕̼̀́͌u̸̶̲͓̫̙̘͉̾̈̎̇̃̽̍̃͝͝⚡︎⚡︎i̶̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕à̶̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽卐 attacks countries like Georgia. And
>> Ukraine, twice. B̶̶̖̓̎͝u̸̶̲͓̫̙̘͉̾̈̎̇̃̽̍̃͝͝t̵̶̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅ 卐R̷̶̠͕̼̀́͌u̸̶̲͓̫̙̘͉̾̈̎̇̃̽̍̃͝͝⚡︎⚡︎i̶̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕à̶̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽卐 screwed up, th̶e̶ s̶e̶c̶o̶n̶d̶ t̶i̶m̶e̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶e̶ w̶a̶s̶
>> n̶o̶ l̶o̶n̶g̶e̶r̶ a̶ w̶e̶a̶k̶l̶i̶n̶g̶, and they're doing a great job kicking 
>> 卐R̷̶̠͕̼̀́͌u̸̶̲͓̫̙̘͉̾̈̎̇̃̽̍̃͝͝⚡︎⚡︎i̶̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕à̶̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽n̸̶̢͙̯͓̝͔̣͈̓̄̆̀̓̈̾̕͜卐 à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕, considering the size difference.
> 
> Clearly, you're more ((( ))) than Zelensky. Irish my ass.

ohh yeaaah, he is so {{{}}}, 𝗮_𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗲_𝗽𝘂𝘁𝘇 of america. Lying, cheating and 
𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗮𝗿𝗲_𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗾𝘂𝗶𝘀𝗶𝘁𝗲𝘀 in america. They are so stupid they have 
𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁_𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀_𝗯𝗼𝗿𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀 in america. Nord-south, east-vest, all directions 
straight lines borders in capitalist america. You think you are in Africa.

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#618188

FromRichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
Date2023-08-18 15:39 -0700
Message-ID<07c6d4c1-b412-4619-ab57-8353ff2995fbn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618185
On August 18, Volney wrote:
>> What kind of predator attacks the weak?
>
> They all do. 
> Which zebra in a herd gets eaten by the lions? The slowest one.

Does the lion behave that way from innate cruelty?
Does 'cruelty' apply to any critter besides man?

--
Rich

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#618151

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-18 11:21 -0700
Message-ID<2fcf3c78-f6e3-4f98-b9d8-1e539aa0430bn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618120
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:45:15 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:13:50?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:40:14?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > List of Critics of Relativity: 
> > > > > > > [list] 
> > > > > > > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: 
> > > > > > > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) 
> > > > > > > is still to the point: 
> > > > > > > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." 
> > > > > > > (English) 
> > > > > > > "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > > Here's an English translation so you can give me chapter and verse: 
> > > > > > HUNDRED AUTHORS AGAINST EINSTEIN -ROUGH TRANSLATION Roger J Anderton 
> > > > > > R.J.Anderton@btinternet 
> > > > > Wrong way round: you started it, 
> > > > > you should point out someone in it who made a valuable contribution. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > BTW, you are again making it obvious 
> > > > > that you are praising a book that you have not even glanced at. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you had, you would have known 
> > > > > that they never succeeded in getting anywhere near 
> > > > > that 100 authors that the title promisses. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jan 
> > > > Aren't you as silly as can be, demanding they have more authors for you to 
> > > > take them seriously. 
> > > See, you know nothing about it. 
> > > In 1920 a proto-nazi I won't mention 
> > > organised anti-Einstein rallies in Berlin, 
> > > filling even a stadium with it. 
> > > (a whole shouting stadium, if that isn't convincing, what is) 
> > > He then decided to publish an anti-Einstein book, out of what he had. 
> > > Originally, in the original enthousiasm 
> > > more than a hundred people promised a contribution. 
> > > 
> > > They had been assuming that it would become a publication 
> > > to be taken seriously. 
> > > When they realised what kind of crap it was going to be 
> > > most of the hundred+ declined to contribute after all. 
> > > If you have a good name, why waste it? 
> > > 
> > > So finally after ten years of begging, needling, pushing and so on 
> > > they decided to make do with the crap they had. (1931) 
> > > (38 authors, iirc) 
> > > 
> > > So there really wasn't anything for Einstein to answer, 
> > > 
> > > Jan 
> > As usual, all you have is an ad hominem begging of the question and a 
> > refusal to answer the criticisms. 
> >
> Don't so lazy. The full original text is on-line at 
> <https://archive.org/stream/HundertAutorenGegenEinstein/Hundert%20Autoren%20gegen%20Einstein%20%281931%29_djvu.txt> 
> English translation already mentioned at 
> <https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Relativity%20Theory/Download/8680> 
> 
> Extract some (according to you) still relevant and meaningful criticism 
> of relativity, and we can discuss that, 
> 
> Jan 
> 
> [correction: it was 28 authors, not 38, as I incorrectly remembered]
So you want to criticize the 28 weakest opponents of relativity and ignore the other 1,500? How lame brained!

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#618162

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-08-18 14:56 -0500
Message-ID<kka0nbFtipsU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#618151
On 8/18/2023 1:21 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

<...>

> So you want to criticize the 28 weakest opponents of relativity and ignore the other 1,500? How lame brained!

Creating straw men doesn't work.

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#618243

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-08-19 10:22 +0200
Message-ID<1qfpexo.on5cre1w7exajN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#618151
Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:45:15?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:13:50?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:40:14?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder:
> > > > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > List of Critics of Relativity: 
> > > > > > > > [list] 
> > > > > > > > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: 
> > > > > > > > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) 
> > > > > > > > is still to the point: 
> > > > > > > > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." 
> > > > > > > > (English) 
> > > > > > > > "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > > > Here's an English translation so you can give me chapter and verse
> > > > > > > HUNDRED AUTHORS AGAINST EINSTEIN -ROUGH TRANSLATION Roger J
> > > > > > > Anderton R.J.Anderton@btinternet
> > > > > > Wrong way round: you started it, 
> > > > > > you should point out someone in it who made a valuable
> > > > > > contribution.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > BTW, you are again making it obvious 
> > > > > > that you are praising a book that you have not even glanced at.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If you had, you would have known 
> > > > > > that they never succeeded in getting anywhere near 
> > > > > > that 100 authors that the title promisses. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > Aren't you as silly as can be, demanding they have more authors
> > > > > for you to take them seriously.
> > > > See, you know nothing about it. 
> > > > In 1920 a proto-nazi I won't mention 
> > > > organised anti-Einstein rallies in Berlin, 
> > > > filling even a stadium with it. 
> > > > (a whole shouting stadium, if that isn't convincing, what is) 
> > > > He then decided to publish an anti-Einstein book, out of what he had.
> > > > Originally, in the original enthousiasm 
> > > > more than a hundred people promised a contribution. 
> > > > 
> > > > They had been assuming that it would become a publication 
> > > > to be taken seriously. 
> > > > When they realised what kind of crap it was going to be 
> > > > most of the hundred+ declined to contribute after all. 
> > > > If you have a good name, why waste it? 
> > > > 
> > > > So finally after ten years of begging, needling, pushing and so on
> > > > they decided to make do with the crap they had. (1931) 
> > > > (38 authors, iirc) 
> > > > 
> > > > So there really wasn't anything for Einstein to answer, 
> > > > 
> > > > Jan 
> > > As usual, all you have is an ad hominem begging of the question and a
> > > refusal to answer the criticisms. 
> > >
> > Don't so lazy. The full original text is on-line at 
> > <https://archive.org/stream/HundertAutorenGegenEinstein/Hundert%20Autoren%20
gegen%20Einstein%20%281931%29_djvu.txt> 
> > English translation already mentioned at 
> > <https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Relativity%20Theo
ry/Download/8680> 
> > 
> > Extract some (according to you) still relevant and meaningful criticism
> > of relativity, and we can discuss that, 
> > 
> > Jan 
> > 
> > [correction: it was 28 authors, not 38, as I incorrectly remembered]
> So you want to criticize the 28 weakest opponents of relativity and ignore
> the other 1,500? How lame brained!

Huh? You have a reading disability as well?
There is nothing there, so nothing to criticise.
Einstein's comment already dealt with that.

And how 'weakest'? Those '100' authors were the best filler material
for the booklet that the editor could found.

And for amusement: The print run was small, few people bought it,
and of course most copies have been lost.
Originals are said to be extremely valuable, millions even.
If you ever see one cheaply, grab it,

Jan

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#618298

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-19 11:31 -0700
Message-ID<ad01774a-0712-49a1-91b1-8d08a1962130n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618243
On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 1:22:21 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:45:15?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:13:50?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:40:14?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder:
> > > > > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > List of Critics of Relativity:
> > > > > > > > > [list] 
> > > > > > > > > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: 
> > > > > > > > > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) 
> > > > > > > > > is still to the point: 
> > > > > > > > > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." 
> > > > > > > > > (English) 
> > > > > > > > > "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > > > > Here's an English translation so you can give me chapter and verse 
> > > > > > > > HUNDRED AUTHORS AGAINST EINSTEIN -ROUGH TRANSLATION Roger J 
> > > > > > > > Anderton R.J.Anderton@btinternet 
> > > > > > > Wrong way round: you started it, 
> > > > > > > you should point out someone in it who made a valuable 
> > > > > > > contribution. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > BTW, you are again making it obvious 
> > > > > > > that you are praising a book that you have not even glanced at. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If you had, you would have known 
> > > > > > > that they never succeeded in getting anywhere near 
> > > > > > > that 100 authors that the title promisses. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > > Aren't you as silly as can be, demanding they have more authors 
> > > > > > for you to take them seriously. 
> > > > > See, you know nothing about it. 
> > > > > In 1920 a proto-nazi I won't mention 
> > > > > organised anti-Einstein rallies in Berlin, 
> > > > > filling even a stadium with it. 
> > > > > (a whole shouting stadium, if that isn't convincing, what is) 
> > > > > He then decided to publish an anti-Einstein book, out of what he had. 
> > > > > Originally, in the original enthousiasm 
> > > > > more than a hundred people promised a contribution. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > They had been assuming that it would become a publication 
> > > > > to be taken seriously. 
> > > > > When they realised what kind of crap it was going to be 
> > > > > most of the hundred+ declined to contribute after all. 
> > > > > If you have a good name, why waste it? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > So finally after ten years of begging, needling, pushing and so on 
> > > > > they decided to make do with the crap they had. (1931) 
> > > > > (38 authors, iirc) 
> > > > > 
> > > > > So there really wasn't anything for Einstein to answer, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jan 
> > > > As usual, all you have is an ad hominem begging of the question and a 
> > > > refusal to answer the criticisms. 
> > > > 
> > > Don't so lazy. The full original text is on-line at 
> > > <https://archive.org/stream/HundertAutorenGegenEinstein/Hundert%20Autoren%20 
> gegen%20Einstein%20%281931%29_djvu.txt> 
> > > English translation already mentioned at 
> > > <https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Relativity%20Theo 
> ry/Download/8680> 
> > > 
> > > Extract some (according to you) still relevant and meaningful criticism 
> > > of relativity, and we can discuss that, 
> > > 
> > > Jan 
> > > 
> > > [correction: it was 28 authors, not 38, as I incorrectly remembered] 
> > So you want to criticize the 28 weakest opponents of relativity and ignore 
> > the other 1,500? How lame brained! 
> 
> Huh? You have a reading disability as well? 
> There is nothing there, so nothing to criticise. 
> Einstein's comment already dealt with that. 
> 
> And how 'weakest'? Those '100' authors were the best filler material 
> for the booklet that the editor could found. 
> 
> And for amusement: The print run was small, few people bought it, 
> and of course most copies have been lost. 
> Originals are said to be extremely valuable, millions even. 
> If you ever see one cheaply, grab it, 
> 
> Jan
Congratulations for standing with Einstein's tarring of all his opponents as anti-Semitic.

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#618309

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-08-19 21:40 +0200
Message-ID<1qfqbzs.1kek50f10v04eeN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#618298
Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 1:22:21?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:45:15?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:13:50?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:40:14?PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder:
> > > > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023  J. J. Lodder:
> > > > > > > > > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > List of Critics of Relativity:
> > > > > > > > > > [list] 
> > > > > > > > > > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: 
> > > > > > > > > > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) 
> > > > > > > > > > is still to the point: 
> > > > > > > > > > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." 
> > > > > > > > > > (English) 
> > > > > > > > > > "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > > > > > Here's an English translation so you can give me chapter
> > > > > > > > > and verse HUNDRED AUTHORS AGAINST EINSTEIN -ROUGH
> > > > > > > > > TRANSLATION Roger J Anderton R.J.Anderton@btinternet
> > > > > > > > Wrong way round: you started it, 
> > > > > > > > you should point out someone in it who made a valuable 
> > > > > > > > contribution. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > BTW, you are again making it obvious 
> > > > > > > > that you are praising a book that you have not even glanced at.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If you had, you would have known 
> > > > > > > > that they never succeeded in getting anywhere near 
> > > > > > > > that 100 authors that the title promisses. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > > > Aren't you as silly as can be, demanding they have more authors
> > > > > > > for you to take them seriously. 
> > > > > > See, you know nothing about it. 
> > > > > > In 1920 a proto-nazi I won't mention 
> > > > > > organised anti-Einstein rallies in Berlin, 
> > > > > > filling even a stadium with it. 
> > > > > > (a whole shouting stadium, if that isn't convincing, what is)
> > > > > > He then decided to publish an anti-Einstein book, out of what he
> > > > > > had. Originally, in the original enthousiasm more than a hundred
> > > > > > people promised a contribution.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > They had been assuming that it would become a publication 
> > > > > > to be taken seriously. 
> > > > > > When they realised what kind of crap it was going to be 
> > > > > > most of the hundred+ declined to contribute after all. 
> > > > > > If you have a good name, why waste it? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So finally after ten years of begging, needling, pushing and so on
> > > > > > they decided to make do with the crap they had. (1931) 
> > > > > > (38 authors, iirc) 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So there really wasn't anything for Einstein to answer, 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > As usual, all you have is an ad hominem begging of the question and a
> > > > > refusal to answer the criticisms. 
> > > > > 
> > > > Don't so lazy. The full original text is on-line at 
> > > > <https://archive.org/stream/HundertAutorenGegenEinstein/Hundert%20Autore
n%20 
> > gegen%20Einstein%20%281931%29_djvu.txt> 
> > > > English translation already mentioned at 
> > > > <https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Relativity%20
Theo 
> > ry/Download/8680> 
> > > > 
> > > > Extract some (according to you) still relevant and meaningful criticism
> > > > of relativity, and we can discuss that, 
> > > > 
> > > > Jan 
> > > > 
> > > > [correction: it was 28 authors, not 38, as I incorrectly remembered]
> > > So you want to criticize the 28 weakest opponents of relativity and ignore
> > > the other 1,500? How lame brained! 
> > 
> > Huh? You have a reading disability as well? 
> > There is nothing there, so nothing to criticise. 
> > Einstein's comment already dealt with that. 
> > 
> > And how 'weakest'? Those '100' authors were the best filler material
> > for the booklet that the editor could found. 
> > 
> > And for amusement: The print run was small, few people bought it, 
> > and of course most copies have been lost. 
> > Originals are said to be extremely valuable, millions even. 
> > If you ever see one cheaply, grab it, 
> > 
> > Jan
> Congratulations for standing with Einstein's tarring of all his opponents
> as anti-Semitic.

OK, so you -have- a reading disability,

Jan

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#618402

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-20 13:24 -0700
Message-ID<11f0495e-aa53-4d13-b81d-eca5656c15d5n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618309
On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 12:40:58 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> > > > > [correction: it was 28 authors, not 38, as I incorrectly remembered] 
> > > > So you want to criticize the 28 weakest opponents of relativity and ignore 
> > > > the other 1,500? How lame brained! 
> > > 
> > > Huh? You have a reading disability as well? 
> > > There is nothing there, so nothing to criticise. 
> > > Einstein's comment already dealt with that. 
Here is where you agreed with Einstein calling all his opponents anti-Semitic.
> > Congratulations for standing with Einstein's tarring of all his opponents 
> > as anti-Semitic.
> OK, so you -have- a reading disability, 
> 
> Jan

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#618143

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-08-18 10:56 -0700
Message-ID<64DFB0E3.75D2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#618052
Here is what Albert Einstein 'thinks' of your list of his Critics...


According to Albert Einstein...'in his own words' he said:

'If you oppose my theories, you're an anti-semitic.'


http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/ocr/
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3.pdf

""Why were men of science opposed
to your theory when you first made it
known ?"
"No men of science," he replied, em
phasizing the last'word, "were against
the theory."
"But there was some opposition?"
"Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
was purely political. Even the physi
cists who opposed my theory did so for
political reasons?in my opinion, o'
course."
"What do you mean when you say
the opposition was political?"
"Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
answer. "Because I am a Jew." "" 



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#618145

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-18 11:08 -0700
Message-ID<7e843296-fd24-46f9-aa47-a54bffe30accn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618143
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:56:34 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Here is what Albert Einstein 'thinks' of your list of his Critics... 
> 
> 
> According to Albert Einstein...'in his own words' he said: 
> 
> 'If you oppose my theories, you're an anti-semitic.' 
> 
> 
> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/ 
> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/ocr/ 
> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3.pdf 
> 
> ""Why were men of science opposed 
> to your theory when you first made it 
> known ?" 
> "No men of science," he replied, em 
> phasizing the last'word, "were against 
> the theory." 
> "But there was some opposition?" 
> "Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that 
> was purely political. Even the physi 
> cists who opposed my theory did so for 
> political reasons?in my opinion, o' 
> course." 
> "What do you mean when you say 
> the opposition was political?" 
> "Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's 
> answer. "Because I am a Jew." "" 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.
Thank you, Starmaker. The relativists follow in their idols' footsteps failing to make a reasoned reply. Relativity has never been rationally defended and never can be.

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#618147

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-18 11:16 -0700
Message-ID<64b8dc96-71b6-4f0e-b13c-a22f8d256de0n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618145
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 11:08:06 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> Relativity has never been rationally defended and never can be.

On the contrary, relativity has never been rationally defeated, yet. It may eventually be modified and even defeated, but it won't be by a crank who does not even know high school physics!

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