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| Started by | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-08-16 17:38 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-08-29 09:45 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 358 — 36 participants |
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List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-17 12:05 +1000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-17 13:24 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-19 06:58 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:19 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 23:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-20 07:08 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 19:53 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 17:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 18:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 19:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:57 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 00:19 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 21:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 15:13 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:43 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 15:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 21:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 02:05 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 15:32 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:57 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:33 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:14 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:57 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 15:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-17 17:46 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:29 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 20:06 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 09:20 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:23 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 15:03 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:44 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-08-17 08:13 -0600
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:59 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:18 -0700
Cranks Richard Hertz and Laurence Crossen run out of arguments "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 09:37 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 23:13 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:44 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-18 12:45 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 04:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:32 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:00 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:54 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 16:49 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ben Harin <ianr@ninrbnnr.nn> - 2023-08-18 23:27 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 15:40 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 19:23 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:18 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:04 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:53 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:21 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Wayne Bereznevich <nwne@czewnebe.ze> - 2023-08-18 22:37 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:49 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Elton Vakar <eero@aklenaoo.av> - 2023-08-18 23:07 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Merlan Bauze <emeu@eabezeel.bn> - 2023-08-19 10:13 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 15:39 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:56 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 10:22 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 21:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 13:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-18 10:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-18 11:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 10:22 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:49 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:51 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:01 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:51 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 12:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:02 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 16:49 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:57 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:35 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:35 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 08:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 08:26 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:13 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:27 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 10:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 19:49 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:29 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 20:30 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 23:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 23:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 10:36 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 06:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 06:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 07:11 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 07:29 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 08:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 07:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 18:03 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 00:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 01:02 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 11:54 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 03:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 09:38 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 20:05 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 19:52 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 11:08 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 13:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-23 15:52 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 11:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 14:39 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-09-03 17:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 22:58 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 21:41 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 11:08 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 22:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 01:01 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 11:54 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 23:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 23:23 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 12:01 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 03:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 04:22 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 13:55 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 15:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-24 14:02 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 05:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 13:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Delmer Tupalo <rptm@lmlelodl.el> - 2023-08-20 18:44 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:29 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Travis Bazili <aail@ttttviat.sv> - 2023-08-23 09:38 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:48 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Clarence Talkovsky <nskl@eccaryec.kv> - 2023-08-23 11:53 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:11 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:13 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:23 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:26 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 10:07 -0700
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Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 15:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-24 14:02 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 11:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-25 21:45 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-19 11:22 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 20:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-20 11:52 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Brett Harkharov <aaah@rthtrath.rk> - 2023-08-19 17:12 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 08:08 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 02:50 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Chico Patsalo <tpac@slsialct.ac> - 2023-08-19 10:41 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:22 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 14:45 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 03:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 08:36 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 19:18 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:01 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-20 12:13 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 17:52 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:55 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 09:12 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 00:32 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:06 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 06:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:14 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:40 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Shon Babukh <koun@bnbuboab.ob> - 2023-08-18 23:38 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 20:04 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 13:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 20:04 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:37 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 13:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-20 01:55 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 19:19 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 15:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 16:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:20 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 19:11 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:02 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-20 07:07 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:59 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 12:39 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:25 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:55 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 20:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:03 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 00:35 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 21:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 10:36 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 22:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 10:03 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:50 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 17:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:34 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 22:42 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 15:30 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:12 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:41 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-21 19:11 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 18:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-21 23:33 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 22:24 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:41 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-22 09:58 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:19 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 22:25 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 10:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 11:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-22 14:06 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 22:17 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 23:20 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 21:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 10:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 00:44 -0400
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Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 14:28 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 21:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 06:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:26 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 10:41 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 22:21 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-23 01:24 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 22:59 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-21 23:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-22 15:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-22 17:49 -0700
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Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-21 21:25 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 00:13 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:15 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 18:43 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:51 -0500
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Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:01 -0400
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Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:31 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 01:00 -0700
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Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:41 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 18:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:58 -0700
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Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 08:51 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 09:55 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-28 15:20 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 06:09 -0700
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 15:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4b3b7289-eacf-48f9-8b09-d3e8185ac397n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618054 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:48:33 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:04:53 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:03 AM UTC-3, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > > - Ernest Rutherford > > - Oliver Heaviside > > - Nikola Tesla > > > > The forgotten genius of Oliver Heaviside > > Basil Mahon > > 2017, Prometheus Books > > > > > > A Force of Nature > > The Frontier Genius of Ernest Rutherford > > RICHARD REEVES > > 2008, Atlas & Co > The loser Einstein running away, like a rat, from a public discussion about special and general relativity (never, ever, accepted a > challenge like this one). He devoted the next 8 years to give conferences on relativity at different countries. > > But he slipped again at Paris, in March 31, 1922, when he was informed of a hostile audience waiting for him. In particular, he > was shocked by the news that THREE former colleagues of the Patent's Office were waiting for him, to discuss PLAGIARISM. > > Jacques Hadamard, a brilliant french mathematician, told Einstein about the big flaw of the Field equations in his theory of General Relativity, which Karl Schwarzschild had already told him in 1916. It highlights the fact that his theory failed to determine the space-time structure of a massive star, and that space and time concepts didn't make sens anymore at some points. > > Henri Bergson, a first class philosopher, discussed with Einstein in a very bitter confrontation, days before, at the same place, the Collège de France. Almost HALF of french scientists refused to attend the different presentations, leaving the auditorium before Einstein came in, > every single time. > > Bergson did fundament his critics backed by prominent French physicists and mathematicians Langevin, Painlevé, Hadamard, Becquerel, > Sagnac, and Kastler. Einstein was lost in the discussion and found excuses for NOT RETURNING TO THE PLACE, once he temporarily left > the premises. > > ******************************************* > > At a meeting of the Society of German Scientists and Physicians in Bad Nauheim in September 1921, Einstein and Lenard were pitched head to head in a debate about relativity. Accounts of the debate differ – some newspapers reported that it was conducted calmly and objectively, but others say that Planck, who moderated the event, had on several occasions to intervene to prevent hecklers from interrupting Einstein. Lenard criticized relativity for violating «healthy common sense», the implication being that it represented not just a wrong idea in physics but a kind of insidious malaise. > > Einstein was highly agitated afterwards – he later admitted his regrets at «losing myself in such deep humorlessness» (cited by Van Dongen, 2007) – and his wife Elsa seems to have suffered something of a nervous breakdown. > > After a break proposed by Max Planck, Einstein sized the opportunity by running away from the forum. The discussion didn't have > an end. Relativists here follow Einstein's bad example by refusing to reason with their opponents.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 17:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kk7maoFi9iaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #618058 |
On 8/17/2023 5:13 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: <...> > Relativists here follow Einstein's bad example by refusing to reason with their opponents. You behave as though "facts" are subject to negotiation. They are not.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 16:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <08a7615b-8965-46e4-a8a4-5e29bd6c9675n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618064 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:46:54 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: > On 8/17/2023 5:13 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > <...> > > Relativists here follow Einstein's bad example by refusing to reason with their opponents. > You behave as though "facts" are subject to negotiation. > > They are not. You behave as if interpretations are facts. You are very confused. Relativity is confusion, and relativists are confused by its nonsense.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 16:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <67924c3c-d8a7-49e0-bfbe-3972358f5180n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618064 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:46:54 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: > On 8/17/2023 5:13 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > <...> > > Relativists here follow Einstein's bad example by refusing to reason with their opponents. > You behave as though "facts" are subject to negotiation. > > They are not. What does relativity have to do with facts?
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 20:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ubmcn0$3uudi$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #618054 |
On 8/17/2023 5:48 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: > At a meeting of the Society of German Scientists and Physicians in Bad Nauheim in September 1921, Einstein and Lenard were pitched head to head in a debate about relativity. Accounts of the debate differ – some newspapers reported that it was conducted calmly and objectively, but others say that Planck, who moderated the event, had on several occasions to intervene to prevent hecklers from interrupting Einstein. Lenard criticized relativity for violating «healthy common sense», the implication being that it represented not just a wrong idea in physics but a kind of insidious malaise. > > Einstein was highly agitated afterwards – he later admitted his regrets at «losing myself in such deep humorlessness» (cited by Van Dongen, 2007) – and his wife Elsa seems to have suffered something of a nervous breakdown. > > After a break proposed by Max Planck, Einstein sized the opportunity by running away from the forum. The discussion didn't have > an end. Is that the meeting where a bunch of proto-Nazis got together not to discuss actual physics, but to attack "Jewish Physics"/Einstein and to promote "German"/"Aryan" physics? I wouldn't blame Einstein for being agitated by that.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-18 09:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kk8kdhFmqf5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #618054 |
On 2023-08-17 21:48:30 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:04:53 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: >> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:03 AM UTC-3, Athel Cornish-Bowden >> wrote:>> <snip> >>>> List of Critics of Relativity: >> - Ernest Rutherford> - Oliver Heaviside> - Nikola Tesla>> The forgotten >> genius of Oliver Heaviside> Basil Mahon> 2017, Prometheus Books>>> A >> Force of Nature> The Frontier Genius of Ernest Rutherford> RICHARD >> REEVES> 2008, Atlas & Co > > > The loser Einstein running away, like a rat, from a public discussion > about special and general relativity (never, ever, accepted a > challenge like this one). He devoted the next 8 years to give > conferences on relativity at different countries. > > But he slipped again at Paris, in March 31, 1922, when he was informed > of a hostile audience waiting for him. In particular, he > was shocked by the news that THREE former colleagues of the Patent's > Office were waiting for him, to discuss PLAGIARISM. > > Jacques Hadamard, a brilliant french mathematician, told Einstein about > the big flaw of the Field equations in his theory of General > Relativity, which Karl Schwarzschild had already told him in 1916. It > highlights the fact that his theory failed to determine the space-time > structure of a massive star, and that space and time concepts didn't > make sens anymore at some points. > > Henri Bergson, a first class philosopher, Nonsense. This is what a real first-class philosopher had to say about Bergson: "His great reputation began with L’Évolution Créatrice, published in 1907--not that this book was better than the others, but that it contained less argument and more rhetoric. This book contains, from beginning to end, no argument, and therefore no bad argument; it contains merely a poetical picture appealing to the fancy." [Bertrand Russell (1928). Sceptical Essays. George Allen & Unwin, London, p. 50]. > discussed with Einstein in a very bitter confrontation, days before, at > the same place, the Collège de France. Almost HALF of french scientists > refused to attend the different presentations, leaving the auditorium > before Einstein came in, > every single time. > Bergson did fundament his critics backed by prominent French physicists > and mathematicians Langevin, Painlevé, Hadamard, Becquerel,Sagnac, and > Kastler. Einstein was lost in the discussion and found excuses for NOT > RETURNING TO THE PLACE, once he temporarily left > the premises. -- athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-18 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <868d97d1-ebc5-4ad4-a897-7ac02da1437dn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618108 |
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:20:22 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2023-08-17 21:48:30 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:04:53 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > >> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:03 AM UTC-3, Athel Cornish-Bowden > >> wrote:>> <snip> > >>>> List of Critics of Relativity: > >> - Ernest Rutherford> - Oliver Heaviside> - Nikola Tesla>> The forgotten > >> genius of Oliver Heaviside> Basil Mahon> 2017, Prometheus Books>>> A > >> Force of Nature> The Frontier Genius of Ernest Rutherford> RICHARD > >> REEVES> 2008, Atlas & Co > > > > > > The loser Einstein running away, like a rat, from a public discussion > > about special and general relativity (never, ever, accepted a > > challenge like this one). He devoted the next 8 years to give > > conferences on relativity at different countries. > > > > But he slipped again at Paris, in March 31, 1922, when he was informed > > of a hostile audience waiting for him. In particular, he > > was shocked by the news that THREE former colleagues of the Patent's > > Office were waiting for him, to discuss PLAGIARISM. > > > > Jacques Hadamard, a brilliant french mathematician, told Einstein about > > the big flaw of the Field equations in his theory of General > > Relativity, which Karl Schwarzschild had already told him in 1916. It > > highlights the fact that his theory failed to determine the space-time > > structure of a massive star, and that space and time concepts didn't > > make sens anymore at some points. > > > > Henri Bergson, a first class philosopher, > Nonsense. This is what a real first-class philosopher had to say about > Bergson: "His great reputation began with L’Évolution Créatrice, > published in 1907--not that this book was better than the others, but > that it contained less argument and more rhetoric. This book contains, > from beginning to end, no argument, and therefore no bad argument; it > contains merely a poetical picture appealing to the fancy." [Bertrand > Russell (1928). Sceptical Essays. George Allen & Unwin, London, p. 50]. > > discussed with Einstein in a very bitter confrontation, days before, at > > the same place, the Collège de France. Almost HALF of french scientists > > refused to attend the different presentations, leaving the auditorium > > before Einstein came in, > > every single time. > > Bergson did fundament his critics backed by prominent French physicists > > and mathematicians Langevin, Painlevé, Hadamard, Becquerel,Sagnac, and > > Kastler. Einstein was lost in the discussion and found excuses for NOT > > RETURNING TO THE PLACE, once he temporarily left > > the premises. > -- > athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots Bergson was in favor of absolute time, but that argument is totally unnecessary. All one needs to do is give time a definition suitable for physics: Time equals Change/ Rate.
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| From | Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-18 11:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <64b5c96c-462f-4118-90a8-9a1fa5719ac7n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618152 |
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 11:23:52 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > All one needs to do is give time a definition suitable for physics: Time equals Change/ Rate. So, as I sit here in my chair reading and typing, I am not changing and neither is my rate... so time does not pass for me? So, you failed high school physics?
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-18 15:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kka150FtipsU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #618153 |
On 8/18/2023 1:34 PM, Paul Alsing wrote: > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 11:23:52 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > >> All one needs to do is give time a definition suitable for physics: Time equals Change/ Rate. > > So, as I sit here in my chair reading and typing, I am not changing and neither is my rate... so time does not pass for me? > > So, you failed high school physics? More likely never took physics courses of any sort. Laurence, this being coached as you go along will not work out in the long run. It doesn't have to be forbidden by some rules to be plainly wrong. I know your coach and your coach has significant limitations. Don't fall for believing you are more than what you know before this battle which was cooked up for this occasion, and not for your benefit.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-18 13:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a0fa05ba-1bd8-466d-bc4b-34c3e28b8cb6n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618153 |
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 11:34:17 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 11:23:52 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > > All one needs to do is give time a definition suitable for physics: Time equals Change/ Rate. > So, as I sit here in my chair reading and typing, I am not changing and neither is my rate... so time does not pass for me? > > So, you failed high school physics? You would be the only one in the world not changing and, for that matter, not learning or growing up!
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| From | Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 08:13 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <8f1de63f-b0b7-ed42-b157-a307c384eed6@comcast.net> |
| In reply to | #617956 |
On 8/16/23 6:38 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > List of Critics of Relativity: > > [...] > Petr Beckmann > [...] > Just a comment from a special relativity believer (me, Mike Fontenot): I knew Petr Beckman. I first became aware of him when I was given the task of doing "traffic engineering" for Bell Labs in Denver in the early 1970's. "Traffic engineering" is what most people called "queueing theory". To educate myself, I read everything I could get on the subject, and that included a short book by Petr Beckman. He was a professor at the University of Colorado at that time. I was amazed how coherent his writing was ... maybe the best I've ever seen. I found out a little later about Beckman's writings on special relativity (and in particular, his contention that it was an incorrect theory). I was (and am) a firm believer in the correctness of special relativity, so I disagreed with Beckman, but I nevertheless greatly admired his intellect.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 12:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5d8e5a6b-928d-40c2-881c-e1fa7c47ba97n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618001 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:15:05 AM UTC-7, Mike Fontenot wrote: > On 8/16/23 6:38 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > List of Critics of Relativity: > > > > [...] > > Petr Beckmann > > [...] > > > > Just a comment from a special relativity believer (me, Mike Fontenot): > > I knew Petr Beckman. I first became aware of him when I was given the > task of doing "traffic engineering" for Bell Labs in Denver in the early > 1970's. "Traffic engineering" is what most people called "queueing > theory". To educate myself, I read everything I could get on the > subject, and that included a short book by Petr Beckman. He was a > professor at the University of Colorado at that time. I was amazed how > coherent his writing was ... maybe the best I've ever seen. I found out > a little later about Beckman's writings on special relativity (and in > particular, his contention that it was an incorrect theory). I was (and > am) a firm believer in the correctness of special relativity, so I > disagreed with Beckman, but I nevertheless greatly admired his intellect. The first page of his book, Einstein Plus Two, rejects the second postulate. The second postulate claims light is an exception to Newton's first law of motion, that everything shares the velocity of its source. For example, Galileo's ship's cabin moving with uniform linear velocity where everything shares the same velocity.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 13:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8d1054aa-cbbb-4e65-bd9e-9039ea5a583fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618001 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:15:05 AM UTC-7, Mike Fontenot wrote: > On 8/16/23 6:38 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > List of Critics of Relativity: > > > > [...] > > Petr Beckmann > > [...] > > > > Just a comment from a special relativity believer (me, Mike Fontenot): > > I knew Petr Beckman. I first became aware of him when I was given the > task of doing "traffic engineering" for Bell Labs in Denver in the early > 1970's. "Traffic engineering" is what most people called "queueing > theory". To educate myself, I read everything I could get on the > subject, and that included a short book by Petr Beckman. He was a > professor at the University of Colorado at that time. I was amazed how > coherent his writing was ... maybe the best I've ever seen. I found out > a little later about Beckman's writings on special relativity (and in > particular, his contention that it was an incorrect theory). I was (and > am) a firm believer in the correctness of special relativity, so I > disagreed with Beckman, but I nevertheless greatly admired his intellect. Often the first postulate is described as coming from Galileo's defense of the Earth's motion saying everything in the cabin shares the velocity of the ship acting as if it were still. Then the second postulate claims light is the only exception to this rule. However, the Doppler shift for starlight proves light shares the velocity of the source. For example, the light coming from Sirius is moving at 300,005.5 km/sec relative to us.
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 09:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Cranks Richard Hertz and Laurence Crossen run out of arguments |
| Message-ID | <15bb21c7-8746-4f00-8d0d-d3ad48324b2fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617956 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 9:09:28 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >nothing of any relevance< There are a lot of "Herr" and a lot of "Frau". And a lot of nazis. So many idiots, so little time....
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qfmhi4.hk4lv21adv7w3N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #617956 |
Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> wrote: > List of Critics of Relativity: [list] Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) is still to the point: "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." (English) "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", Jan
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 11:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4177334b-848a-4aad-89b0-d3e8a5120a42n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618016 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > [list] > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) > is still to the point: > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." > (English) > "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", > > Jan Again, this argument was not made, so your reply is beside the point. I did not argue they were so many or so good they should be accepted. I merely shared the list.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 12:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1496bfe7-af7c-48bd-aff2-f563c4d288fan@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618016 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > [list] > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) > is still to the point: > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." > (English) > "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", > > Jan Einstein has set the example you follow because the book only said there were a hundred without making this argument from numbers. You are following Einstein's bad example without thinking twice.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 12:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fb6fc775-389b-484f-89c8-e60b30cbca2bn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618016 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > [list] > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) > is still to the point: > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." > (English) > "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", > > Jan According to Athel you should provide the source showing that the book Hundred Authors Against Einstein made the fallacious argument, argumentum ad populum, or argument from consensus. It appears that Einstein misrepresented their case, making a strawman of their case.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qfmnz4.7gf5jvfxn17rN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #618031 |
Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > > [list] > > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: > > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) > > is still to the point: > > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." > > (English) > > "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", > > > > Jan > According to Athel you should provide the source showing that the book >Hundred Authors Against Einstein made the fallacious argument, >argumentum ad populum, or argument from consensus. It appears that >Einstein misrepresented their case, making a strawman of their case. There was no case to begin with, Jan
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 12:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4e230871-8c89-436e-b2bd-b5f707baf9f9n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618016 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:15:13 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > [list] > Einstein's reaction on learning about the book: > "Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein" (1931) > is still to the point: > "Wenn sie recht hätten, würde einer genügen." > (English) > "One would have sufficed, if they had been right", > > Jan Here's an English translation so you can give me chapter and verse: HUNDRED AUTHORS AGAINST EINSTEIN -ROUGH TRANSLATION Roger J Anderton R.J.Anderton@btinternet
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