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| Started by | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-08-16 17:38 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-08-29 09:45 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 358 — 36 participants |
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List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-17 12:05 +1000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-17 13:24 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-19 06:58 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:19 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 23:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-20 07:08 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 19:53 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 17:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 18:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 19:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:57 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 00:19 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 21:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 15:13 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:43 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 15:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 21:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 02:05 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 23:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 15:32 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 20:57 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:33 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:14 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:57 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 15:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-17 17:46 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:29 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 16:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 20:06 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 09:20 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:23 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 15:03 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:44 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-08-17 08:13 -0600
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:59 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:18 -0700
Cranks Richard Hertz and Laurence Crossen run out of arguments "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 09:37 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 23:13 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:44 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-18 12:45 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 04:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:32 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:00 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:54 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 16:49 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ben Harin <ianr@ninrbnnr.nn> - 2023-08-18 23:27 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 15:40 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 19:23 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:18 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:04 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:53 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:21 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Wayne Bereznevich <nwne@czewnebe.ze> - 2023-08-18 22:37 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:49 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Elton Vakar <eero@aklenaoo.av> - 2023-08-18 23:07 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Merlan Bauze <emeu@eabezeel.bn> - 2023-08-19 10:13 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 15:39 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 14:56 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 10:22 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 21:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 13:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-18 10:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-18 11:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 10:22 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:49 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:51 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:01 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:16 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:51 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 12:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:02 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 16:49 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:57 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:35 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:35 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 08:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 08:26 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:13 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:27 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 10:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 19:49 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:29 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 20:30 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 23:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 23:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 10:36 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 06:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 06:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 07:11 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 07:29 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 08:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 07:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 18:03 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 10:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 00:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 01:02 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 11:54 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 03:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 09:38 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 20:05 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 19:52 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 11:08 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 13:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-23 15:52 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 11:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 14:39 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-09-03 17:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 22:58 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 21:41 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 11:08 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 22:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 01:01 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-22 11:54 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 23:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 23:23 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 12:01 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 03:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 04:22 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-23 13:55 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:08 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 15:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-24 14:02 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 05:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 13:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Delmer Tupalo <rptm@lmlelodl.el> - 2023-08-20 18:44 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:29 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Travis Bazili <aail@ttttviat.sv> - 2023-08-23 09:38 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:48 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Clarence Talkovsky <nskl@eccaryec.kv> - 2023-08-23 11:53 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:11 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 23:21 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:13 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:23 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:26 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 10:07 -0700
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Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 18:56 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 15:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-24 14:02 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 11:36 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-25 21:45 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-19 11:22 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 20:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-20 11:52 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Brett Harkharov <aaah@rthtrath.rk> - 2023-08-19 17:12 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 08:08 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 02:50 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Chico Patsalo <tpac@slsialct.ac> - 2023-08-19 10:41 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 12:22 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-23 14:45 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 03:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 08:36 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 19:18 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:01 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-20 12:13 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 17:52 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 13:55 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:40 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 09:12 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 00:32 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 11:24 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:31 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 12:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-17 22:40 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:06 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 06:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 11:14 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-18 18:40 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Shon Babukh <koun@bnbuboab.ob> - 2023-08-18 23:38 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 20:04 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 13:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 20:04 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:37 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 13:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-20 01:55 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 19:19 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 15:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 16:15 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 18:20 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 19:11 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:02 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-20 07:07 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:59 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 12:39 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:25 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:55 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 20:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:03 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 00:35 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 21:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 10:36 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 22:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 10:03 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:50 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 17:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:34 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 22:42 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 15:30 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:12 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:38 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:05 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:41 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:48 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-21 19:11 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 18:56 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-21 23:33 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:13 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 22:24 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 20:34 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:41 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 21:53 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-22 09:58 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:19 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 22:25 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 10:47 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 11:28 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-22 14:06 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 22:17 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-22 23:20 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 21:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 10:46 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 00:44 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Colby Zolotar <bolr@obzooota.yr> - 2023-08-24 09:32 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 10:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 14:28 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 21:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 06:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:26 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 10:41 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 22:21 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-23 01:24 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 22:59 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-21 23:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-22 15:19 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-22 17:49 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Evenezer Peltser <etpv@pverreet.zz> - 2023-08-23 11:04 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 20:04 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:09 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-21 21:25 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:18 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:43 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-19 00:13 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:15 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-20 10:38 +0200
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-18 18:43 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-19 14:51 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:50 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 19:01 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:06 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:10 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:17 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:26 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-22 01:31 -0400
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 01:00 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Williard Bah <rhab@ihdiadrd.lw> - 2023-08-23 10:30 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 05:57 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Basil Hariton <athi@iaribinh.bo> - 2023-08-23 11:51 +0000
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 07:48 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-21 20:07 -0500
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:21 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 17:41 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 18:07 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:52 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 19:58 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 11:30 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 08:51 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 09:55 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-28 15:20 -0700
Re: List of Critics of Relativity: Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 06:09 -0700
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 20:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8c2c373d-a888-40f7-9bec-25db780ca28an@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618082 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:34:42 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > How does science define the difference between absolute and relative motion? > > Mitchell Raemsch Would it work to define absolute motion as that when only one is moving and not the other? Please tell us your definition.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-18 15:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kka1muFtipsU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #618087 |
On 8/17/2023 10:08 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:34:42 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >> How does science define the difference between absolute and relative motion? >> >> Mitchell Raemsch > Would it work to define absolute motion as that when only one is moving and not the other? Please tell us your definition. So Mr. Smartypants, tell me which of the two is moving and which is stationary. By definition there are only 2 items in this universe and except for the question raised here we know nothing else about them.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-19 11:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <433b69f1-2e68-4640-a110-a456903bb532n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618165 |
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:13:21 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: > On 8/17/2023 10:08 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:34:42 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> How does science define the difference between absolute and relative motion? > >> > >> Mitchell Raemsch > > Would it work to define absolute motion as that when only one is moving and not the other? Please tell us your definition. > > So Mr. Smartypants, tell me which of the two is moving and which > is stationary. By definition there are only 2 items in this > universe and except for the question raised here we know nothing > else about them. That seems like a good question. Off the top of my head, I would say it would take a third item even to begin to claim absolute motion. That's why I'm not big on absolute motion. It's not an issue for me. Whatever. Please give your definition.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-19 14:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kkckanFbdejU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #618291 |
On 8/19/2023 1:28 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:13:21 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: >> On 8/17/2023 10:08 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:34:42 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> How does science define the difference between absolute and relative motion? >>>> >>>> Mitchell Raemsch >>> Would it work to define absolute motion as that when only one is moving and not the other? Please tell us your definition. >> >> So Mr. Smartypants, tell me which of the two is moving and which >> is stationary. By definition there are only 2 items in this >> universe and except for the question raised here we know nothing >> else about them. > That seems like a good question. Off the top of my head, I would say > it would take a third item even to begin to claim absolute motion. > That's why I'm not big on absolute motion. It's not an issue for > me. Whatever. Please give your definition. Consider the following. Even if you introduce a third member unless you know more about a lot than the two in the first iteration of the question, that is that you can be certain it is stationary, it does not matter how many objects you have. The base problem is that mere observation can never discover absolute motion. You cannot dismiss "absolute motion" simply because you don't like it. One of the classic "relativity" rules is that given a set of circumstances the universe behaves the same way on all occasions and for all observers. I would think that "absolute motion" is an Achilles heel that would topple relativity if demonstrated. There are others to be sure, but this one seems so simple. You've said several times that relativity has been disproved. So be it but I can't find it. Help?
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-19 15:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bb011533-d6d2-458f-a4e4-de09a5a72da3n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618311 |
On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 4:43:23 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote: > On 8/19/2023 1:28 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:13:21 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: > >> On 8/17/2023 10:08 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > >>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:34:42 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> How does science define the difference between absolute and relative motion? > >>>> > >>>> Mitchell Raemsch > >>> Would it work to define absolute motion as that when only one is moving and not the other? Please tell us your definition. > >> > >> So Mr. Smartypants, tell me which of the two is moving and which > >> is stationary. By definition there are only 2 items in this > >> universe and except for the question raised here we know nothing > >> else about them. > > > That seems like a good question. Off the top of my head, I would say > > it would take a third item even to begin to claim absolute motion. > > That's why I'm not big on absolute motion. It's not an issue for > > me. Whatever. Please give your definition. > Consider the following. Even if you introduce a third member unless you > know more about a lot than the two in the first iteration of the > question, that is that you can be certain it is stationary, it does > not matter how many objects you have. The base problem is that mere > observation can never discover absolute motion. > > You cannot dismiss "absolute motion" simply because you don't like > it. One of the classic "relativity" rules is that given a set of > circumstances the universe behaves the same way on all occasions > and for all observers. > > I would think that "absolute motion" is an Achilles heel that would > topple relativity if demonstrated. There are others to be sure, but > this one seems so simple. > > You've said several times that relativity has been disproved. So be > it but I can't find it. Help? Absolute motion, with reference to the fixed stars, guided physics and astronomy for 400 years, until this motherfucker messed the minds of the lesser given (you) with scrambled time, length, momentum, acceleration and volumes.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 21:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fc7d0bcb-3d8c-40cc-9122-c2e84407ebe6n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618076 |
On Friday, 18 August 2023 at 01:53:21 UTC+2, Volney wrote: > On 8/17/2023 2:06 AM, Paul Alsing wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:16:08 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > >> On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 04:58:14 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: > >> > >>> How many of these folks provided evidence to support their criticisms? > >> Come on, poor fanatic trash. You've got a proof that > >> your beloved Shit was not even consistent. And > >> your answer? Polish jokes. > > > > You, Woz, are clearly the biggest Polish joke here... > > > I keep telling him he needs to move from Poland to Russia and increase > the average IQ of both countries. You keep spitting and insulting, as expected from a fanatic idiot which is proven that his beloved guru was just a mumbling crazie.
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 02:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ubkdb6$3ltt0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #617956 |
On 8/16/2023 9:08 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:38:41 PM UTC-3, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >> List of Critics of Relativity: >> [snip long list of cranks and crackpots] Meanwhile, relativity and Einstein are vindicated every time the nice GPS lady says "Turn left in 100 meters".
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-16 23:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9b5082e2-cd48-41a1-a95f-844c0c7fd19en@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617977 |
On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 08:05:29 UTC+2, Volney wrote: > On 8/16/2023 9:08 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:38:41 PM UTC-3, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > >> List of Critics of Relativity: > >> > [snip long list of cranks and crackpots] > > Meanwhile, relativity and Einstein are vindicated every time the nice > GPS lady says "Turn left in 100 meters". Sure, it's vindicated - as some insane mumble of some insane crazies.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 15:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kk6lqfFd9hbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #617956 |
On 2023-08-17 00:38:36 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: > List of Critics of Relativity: > > Rutherford, Ernest I'd be interested to seewhat evidence you have that Rutherford was a critic of relativity: reference please. > > Johannes Stark Stark was a very nasty man -- a strong supporter of Hitler and the Nazi regime. His main objection to relativity seems to be his hatred of Jews: "We have to eradicate the Jewish spirit, whose blood can flow just as undisturbed today as before if its carriers hold beautiful Aryan passes." He sung a different tune earlier (1907), when, as the editor of the Yearbook of Radioactivity and Electronics he invited Albert Einstein to write an article on the principle of relativity. Most of the other people on your list are nonentities, rightly forgotten. Does anyone still take Herbert Dingle seriously, for example? -- athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 20:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qfm8bh.sxo4irf1dozpN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #617998 |
Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2023-08-17 00:38:36 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > > > > Rutherford, Ernest > > I'd be interested to seewhat evidence you have that Rutherford was a > critic of relativity: reference please. Probably a misunderstanding by a non-native speaker of: "The theory of relativity by Einstein, quite apart from any question of its validity (laughter), could not but be regarded as a magnificent work of art." (Rutherford, one in a series of jocular toasts on the theme: science) Jan
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 11:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ae850795-3683-4c3f-826d-50895beb4fb2n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617998 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:32:03 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2023-08-17 00:38:36 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > > > > Rutherford, Ernest > > I'd be interested to seewhat evidence you have that Rutherford was a > critic of relativity: reference please. > > > > Johannes Stark > > Stark was a very nasty man -- a strong supporter of Hitler and the Nazi > regime. His main objection to relativity seems to be his hatred of > Jews: "We have to eradicate the Jewish spirit, whose blood can flow > just as undisturbed today as before if its carriers hold beautiful > Aryan passes." > > He sung a different tune earlier (1907), when, as the editor of the > Yearbook of Radioactivity and Electronics he invited Albert Einstein to > write an article on the principle of relativity. > > Most of the other people on your list are nonentities, rightly > forgotten. Does anyone still take Herbert Dingle seriously, for example? > > -- > athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots Don't say I never did anything for you: "Stephen Leacock, Common Sense and the Universe Wilhelm Wein: "No Anglo-Saxon can understand relativity!" Ernest Rutherford: "No! they've got too much sense!" From The Rutherford Memorial Lecture to the Physical Society 1954 by P. M. S. Blackett, Year Book of The Physical Society 1955." - *******************************I confirmed above in Google books using the free search. ******************************* "Stephen Leacock once asked Ernest Rutherford what he thought of Einstein's relativity. "Oh, that stuff!" Rutherford replied. "We never bother with that in our work!"" -Leacock, S. 1945. "Common Sense and the Universe," in Last Leaves, Dodd, Mead & Co., New York, p. 43. "Dr.Louis Essen wrote in 1988: “Rutherford treated it as a joke; Soddy called it a swindle ...: ….Einstein's use of a thought experiment, together with his ignorance of experimental techniques, gave a result which fooled himself and generations of scientists." (Dr.Louis Essen, inventor of atomic clock, 1988) [6 ]” [Soedarto, Gatot. Logical Fallacies Of Special And General Theory Of Relativity: Second Edition: General Relativity Doesn’t Meet The Principles Of Scientific Method. . Kindle Edition.]
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 20:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kk78tjFg8dsU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #618020 |
On 2023-08-17 18:47:28 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:32:03 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: >> On 2023-08-17 00:38:36 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:>> > List of >> Critics of Relativity:> > >>> Rutherford, Ernest>> I'd be interested to seewhat evidence you have >>> that Rutherford was a> critic of relativity: reference please.> >> > >>> Johannes Stark>> Stark was a very nasty man -- a strong supporter of >>> Hitler and the Nazi> regime. His main objection to relativity seems to >>> be his hatred of> Jews: "We have to eradicate the Jewish spirit, whose >>> blood can flow> just as undisturbed today as before if its carriers >>> hold beautiful> Aryan passes.">> He sung a different tune earlier >>> (1907), when, as the editor of the> Yearbook of Radioactivity and >>> Electronics he invited Albert Einstein to> write an article on the >>> principle of relativity.>> Most of the other people on your list are >>> nonentities, rightly> forgotten. Does anyone still take Herbert Dingle >>> seriously, for example?>> --> athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but >>> detector of crackpots > Don't say I never did anything for you: Why would I say that? It's just common courtesy, not just to me, to supply evidence for one's assertions. > "Stephen Leacock, Common Sense and the Universe Wilhelm Wein: "No > Anglo-Saxon can understand relativity!" > Ernest Rutherford: "No! they've got too much sense!" From The > Rutherford Memorial Lecture to the Physical Society 1954 by P. M. S. > Blackett, Year Book of The Physical Society 1955." - > *******************************I confirmed above in Google books using > the free search. ******************************* > > "Stephen Leacock once asked Ernest Rutherford what he > thought of Einstein's relativity. "Oh, that stuff!" Rutherford > replied. "We never bother with that in our work!"" -Leacock, S. 1945. > "Common Sense and the Universe," in Last Leaves, Dodd, Mead & Co., New > York, p. 43. > > "Dr.Louis Essen wrote in 1988: “Rutherford treated it as a joke; Soddy > called it a swindle ...: ….Einstein's use of a thought experiment, > together with his ignorance of experimental techniques, gave a result > which fooled himself and generations of scientists." (Dr.Louis Essen, > inventor of atomic clock, 1988) [6 ]” [Soedarto, Gatot. Logical > Fallacies Of Special And General Theory Of Relativity: Second Edition: > General Relativity Doesn’t Meet The Principles Of Scientific Method. . > Kindle Edition.] -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 12:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ca469b51-6d48-4a94-92f5-6ea70841b317n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618024 |
On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 20:57:59 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > Why would I say that? It's just common courtesy, not just to me, to > supply evidence for one's assertions. Will you supply any evidence for the assertion above, then? Let me guess - no.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 12:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <337dd404-0c6a-4ba4-9af4-151f49d73f90n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618027 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:13:10 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 20:57:59 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > > Why would I say that? It's just common courtesy, not just to me, to > > supply evidence for one's assertions. > Will you supply any evidence for the assertion above, then? > Let me guess - no. They just like to make demands to silence their opponents. Poor Athel gets worked up easily.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 12:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c24d4be2-3351-49f0-a12c-1f6b7a1d1299n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618029 |
On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 21:15:50 UTC+2, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:13:10 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 20:57:59 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > > > > Why would I say that? It's just common courtesy, not just to me, to > > > supply evidence for one's assertions. > > Will you supply any evidence for the assertion above, then? > > Let me guess - no. > They just like to make demands to silence their opponents. Poor Athel gets worked up easily. They just like to spit, insult and slander. Just like any other group of fanatic idiots.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 16:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <07efe7d8-342d-4673-baac-7b3eb2afbe4fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618024 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:57:59 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2023-08-17 18:47:28 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:32:03 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > >> On 2023-08-17 00:38:36 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:>> > List of > >> Critics of Relativity:> > > >>> Rutherford, Ernest>> I'd be interested to seewhat evidence you have > >>> that Rutherford was a> critic of relativity: reference please.> >> > > >>> Johannes Stark>> Stark was a very nasty man -- a strong supporter of > >>> Hitler and the Nazi> regime. His main objection to relativity seems to > >>> be his hatred of> Jews: "We have to eradicate the Jewish spirit, whose > >>> blood can flow> just as undisturbed today as before if its carriers > >>> hold beautiful> Aryan passes.">> He sung a different tune earlier > >>> (1907), when, as the editor of the> Yearbook of Radioactivity and > >>> Electronics he invited Albert Einstein to> write an article on the > >>> principle of relativity.>> Most of the other people on your list are > >>> nonentities, rightly> forgotten. Does anyone still take Herbert Dingle > >>> seriously, for example?>> --> athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but > >>> detector of crackpots > > Don't say I never did anything for you: > Why would I say that? It's just common courtesy, not just to me, to > supply evidence for one's assertions. > > "Stephen Leacock, Common Sense and the Universe Wilhelm Wein: "No > > Anglo-Saxon can understand relativity!" > > Ernest Rutherford: "No! they've got too much sense!" From The > > Rutherford Memorial Lecture to the Physical Society 1954 by P. M. S. > > Blackett, Year Book of The Physical Society 1955." - > > *******************************I confirmed above in Google books using > > the free search. ******************************* > > > > "Stephen Leacock once asked Ernest Rutherford what he > > thought of Einstein's relativity. "Oh, that stuff!" Rutherford > > replied. "We never bother with that in our work!"" -Leacock, S. 1945. > > "Common Sense and the Universe," in Last Leaves, Dodd, Mead & Co., New > > York, p. 43. > > > > "Dr.Louis Essen wrote in 1988: “Rutherford treated it as a joke; Soddy > > called it a swindle ...: ….Einstein's use of a thought experiment, > > together with his ignorance of experimental techniques, gave a result > > which fooled himself and generations of scientists." (Dr.Louis Essen, > > inventor of atomic clock, 1988) [6 ]” [Soedarto, Gatot. Logical > > Fallacies Of Special And General Theory Of Relativity: Second Edition: > > General Relativity Doesn’t Meet The Principles Of Scientific Method. . > > Kindle Edition.] > -- > Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly > in England until 1987. Free copy of: Last Leaves at https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php?pid=20140455 Stephen Leacock "Common Sense and the Universe," in Last Leaves, Dodd, Mead & Co., New York One must not confuse Rutherford's work on atoms with Einstein's theories of space and time. Rutherford worked all his life without reference to Einstein. Even in his later days at the Cavendish Laboratory at Cambridge when he began, ungratefully, to smash up the atom that had made him, he needed nothing from Einstein. I once asked Rutherford—it was at the height of the popular interest in Einstein in 1923—what he thought of Einstein's relativity. "Oh, that stuff!" he said. "We never bother with that in our work!" His admirable biographer, Professor A. S. Eve, tells us that when the German physicist, Wien, told Rutherford that no Anglo-Saxon could understand relativity, Rutherford answered, "No, they have too much sense."
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-21 13:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a91b55fb-6a77-472b-b788-969c1a444fben@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618020 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:47:30 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:32:03 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > Most of the other people on your list are nonentities, rightly > > forgotten. Does anyone still take Herbert Dingle seriously, for example? Every rational person will forever continue to take Dingle seriously since he definitively refuted special relativity forever.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 13:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8d8455f4-6f10-4612-9766-9687d59602d8n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617998 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:03 AM UTC-3, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2023-08-17 00:38:36 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > > > > Rutherford, Ernest > > I'd be interested to seewhat evidence you have that Rutherford was a > critic of relativity: reference please. > > > > Johannes Stark > > Stark was a very nasty man -- a strong supporter of Hitler and the Nazi > regime. His main objection to relativity seems to be his hatred of > Jews: "We have to eradicate the Jewish spirit, whose blood can flow > just as undisturbed today as before if its carriers hold beautiful > Aryan passes." > > He sung a different tune earlier (1907), when, as the editor of the > Yearbook of Radioactivity and Electronics he invited Albert Einstein to > write an article on the principle of relativity. > > Most of the other people on your list are nonentities, rightly > forgotten. Does anyone still take Herbert Dingle seriously, for example? > > -- > athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 14:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fa3d91a6-353f-42d5-9b84-2d33321d1ff1n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617998 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:03 AM UTC-3, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: <snip> > > List of Critics of Relativity: - Ernest Rutherford - Oliver Heaviside - Nikola Tesla The forgotten genius of Oliver Heaviside Basil Mahon 2017, Prometheus Books A Force of Nature The Frontier Genius of Ernest Rutherford RICHARD REEVES 2008, Atlas & Co
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-17 14:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e395600c-f331-4392-995d-4f70168b843fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #618046 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:04:53 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:03 AM UTC-3, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > <snip> > > > List of Critics of Relativity: > - Ernest Rutherford > - Oliver Heaviside > - Nikola Tesla > > The forgotten genius of Oliver Heaviside > Basil Mahon > 2017, Prometheus Books > > > A Force of Nature > The Frontier Genius of Ernest Rutherford > RICHARD REEVES > 2008, Atlas & Co The loser Einstein running away, like a rat, from a public discussion about special and general relativity (never, ever, accepted a challenge like this one). He devoted the next 8 years to give conferences on relativity at different countries. But he slipped again at Paris, in March 31, 1922, when he was informed of a hostile audience waiting for him. In particular, he was shocked by the news that THREE former colleagues of the Patent's Office were waiting for him, to discuss PLAGIARISM. Jacques Hadamard, a brilliant french mathematician, told Einstein about the big flaw of the Field equations in his theory of General Relativity, which Karl Schwarzschild had already told him in 1916. It highlights the fact that his theory failed to determine the space-time structure of a massive star, and that space and time concepts didn't make sens anymore at some points. Henri Bergson, a first class philosopher, discussed with Einstein in a very bitter confrontation, days before, at the same place, the Collège de France. Almost HALF of french scientists refused to attend the different presentations, leaving the auditorium before Einstein came in, every single time. Bergson did fundament his critics backed by prominent French physicists and mathematicians Langevin, Painlevé, Hadamard, Becquerel, Sagnac, and Kastler. Einstein was lost in the discussion and found excuses for NOT RETURNING TO THE PLACE, once he temporarily left the premises. ******************************************* At a meeting of the Society of German Scientists and Physicians in Bad Nauheim in September 1921, Einstein and Lenard were pitched head to head in a debate about relativity. Accounts of the debate differ – some newspapers reported that it was conducted calmly and objectively, but others say that Planck, who moderated the event, had on several occasions to intervene to prevent hecklers from interrupting Einstein. Lenard criticized relativity for violating «healthy common sense», the implication being that it represented not just a wrong idea in physics but a kind of insidious malaise. Einstein was highly agitated afterwards – he later admitted his regrets at «losing myself in such deep humorlessness» (cited by Van Dongen, 2007) – and his wife Elsa seems to have suffered something of a nervous breakdown. After a break proposed by Max Planck, Einstein sized the opportunity by running away from the forum. The discussion didn't have an end.
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