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charlatan syndrome

Started byLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
First post2023-08-13 11:26 -0700
Last post2023-08-13 13:56 -0700
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  charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 11:26 -0700
    Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 11:42 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 12:04 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 12:59 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:53 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 02:14 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 05:55 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:00 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:57 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:56 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:11 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 02:02 -0400
            Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:17 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 15:27 -0500
              Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 15:54 -0700
                Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 17:52 -0700
                Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 20:56 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-14 10:35 +0000
    Re: charlatan syndrome Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 21:03 +0200
      Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 12:07 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 09:25 +0200
          Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 01:15 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:55 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:01 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 15:16 -0500
          Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:57 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:03 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 19:05 +0200
              Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:16 -0700
                Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 15:26 -0500
            Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 15:20 -0500
    Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-13 15:31 -0400
      Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 12:49 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:14 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:45 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:47 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:52 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-14 10:46 +0000
          Re: charlatan syndrome patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-14 07:12 -0700
            Crank syndrome "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 07:17 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 10:05 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 13:43 -0700
                Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 14:10 -0700
                  Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 19:26 -0700
                    Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 21:18 -0700
                      Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 21:58 -0700
                        Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 19:01 -0400
                          Re: charlatan syndrome Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:29 -0700
                            Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:11 -0700
                              Re: charlatan syndrome Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:56 -0700
                                Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:47 -0700
                      Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 23:44 -0700
                  Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 21:09 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 16:28 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-13 19:13 -0500
          Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 21:18 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-14 10:52 +0000
            Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:59 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 01:15 -0400
            Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 23:42 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 02:09 -0400
                Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 23:22 -0700
    Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:10 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 09:27 +0200
    Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:49 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:56 -0700

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#617881

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-08-16 02:09 -0400
Message-ID<ubhp74$36tth$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#617753
On 8/15/2023 2:42 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 07:15:07 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
>> On 8/13/2023 7:28 PM, JanPB wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 1:14:06 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:31:19 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>>>>> On 8/13/2023 2:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>>> charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən]
>>>>>> n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry when they point out that the emperor has no clothes.
>>>>> Why haven't any one of these "thousands of scientists" ever provided a
>>>>> proof that relativity is wrong and won a practically guaranteed Nobel Prize?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Authoritative source: "Einstein and the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan" by Robert L. Henderson c.2006. Not to mention many others who have made the same comparison.
>>>>> Another electrical engineer purporting to be an expert of physics and
>>>>> relativity. Who was it who noticed that electrical engineers were the
>>>>> biggest source of cranks?
>>>>>
>>>>> p.s. Amazon lists one copy of a paperback available for $1200+. Ultra
>>>>> rare because nobody ever bought it? If you own a copy, sell it to an
>>>>> even bigger relativity sucker and laugh all the way to the bank.
>>>> Relativity has been proven wrong thousands of times with thousands of proofs.
>>>
>>> No. That number is zero.
>>>
>>> The only way to disprove relativity is by experiment.
>>>
>>>> If you really want to defend relativity effectively, you'll have to study the critics. Then you will no longer believe in the charlatanry of relativity.
>>>
>>> You are no critic. Just another hearrogant ignoramus.
>>
>> Given the new word "agnorant", meaning being both ignorant and arrogant
> 
> And do you still believe that  9 192 631 770  ISO idiocy

And we hear from the poster boy for being an "agnoramus". Have you 
looked up what the phrase "not even wrong" means yet?

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#617882

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 23:22 -0700
Message-ID<5c048030-e506-4310-95c3-11a76ccf69acn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617881
On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:09:45 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 8/15/2023 2:42 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 07:15:07 UTC+2, Volney wrote: 
> >> On 8/13/2023 7:28 PM, JanPB wrote: 
> >>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 1:14:06 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:31:19 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: 
> >>>>> On 8/13/2023 2:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>>>>> charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> >>>>>> n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry when they point out that the emperor has no clothes. 
> >>>>> Why haven't any one of these "thousands of scientists" ever provided a 
> >>>>> proof that relativity is wrong and won a practically guaranteed Nobel Prize? 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Authoritative source: "Einstein and the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan" by Robert L. Henderson c.2006. Not to mention many others who have made the same comparison. 
> >>>>> Another electrical engineer purporting to be an expert of physics and 
> >>>>> relativity. Who was it who noticed that electrical engineers were the 
> >>>>> biggest source of cranks? 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> p.s. Amazon lists one copy of a paperback available for $1200+. Ultra 
> >>>>> rare because nobody ever bought it? If you own a copy, sell it to an 
> >>>>> even bigger relativity sucker and laugh all the way to the bank. 
> >>>> Relativity has been proven wrong thousands of times with thousands of proofs. 
> >>> 
> >>> No. That number is zero. 
> >>> 
> >>> The only way to disprove relativity is by experiment. 
> >>> 
> >>>> If you really want to defend relativity effectively, you'll have to study the critics. Then you will no longer believe in the charlatanry of relativity. 
> >>> 
> >>> You are no critic. Just another hearrogant ignoramus. 
> >> 
> >> Given the new word "agnorant", meaning being both ignorant and arrogant 
> > 
> > And do you still believe that 9 192 631 770 ISO idiocy
> And we hear from the poster boy for being an "agnoramus". Have you 
> looked up what the phrase "not even wrong" means yet?

For this case it means "right", stupid Mike.
You have written it many times and insisted -
adjusting the clocks to 9 192 631 770 ISO idiocy
means some "Newton mode" for you.
That's because it doesn't work, of course.

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#617591

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 13:10 -0700
Message-ID<49dbe45f-6aaa-4e29-b7b4-21aca91596b0n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617572
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> 
> For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> 
> For example, relativists. 
> 
> Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry when they point out that the emperor has no clothes. 
> 
> Authoritative source: "Einstein and the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan" by Robert L. Henderson c.2006. Not to mention many others who have made the same comparison.
The question is, who is pretending to know? The answer is relativists and relativity.

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#617644

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-14 09:27 +0200
Message-ID<kju3bpF14kqU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#617591
On 2023-08-13 20:10:24 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:

> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən]> n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who 
>> claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 
>> (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from 
>> Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary.>> For 
>> example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance 
>> and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of 
>> relative motion.>> For example, relativists.>> Thousands of scientists 
>> have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry when they point out 
>> that the emperor has no clothes.>> Authoritative source: "Einstein and 
>> the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan" by 
>> Robert L. Henderson c.2006. Not to mention many others who have made 
>> the same comparison.
> The question is, who is pretending to know?

You. That is clear, and I'm surprised there should be any argument about it.

> The answer is relativists and relativity.


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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#617597

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 13:49 -0700
Message-ID<589e6c2d-20ff-41c8-88b3-941eadfe0d0an@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617572
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> 
> For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> 
> For example, relativists. 
> 
> Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry when they point out that the emperor has no clothes. 
> 
> Authoritative source: "Einstein and the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan" by Robert L. Henderson c.2006. Not to mention many others who have made the same comparison.
Let me give clueless relativists a clue:
You could reply:
1. No relativity does not say you can change the distance and time in the equation to keep the speed the same. 
OR:
2. Yes, it does, but there is actually a rational reason why this is not lying.

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#617600

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 13:56 -0700
Message-ID<ebf58501-889a-4db3-a869-38e905b9722cn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617597
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > 
> > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > 
> > For example, relativists. 
> > 
> > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry when they point out that the emperor has no clothes. 
> > 
> > Authoritative source: "Einstein and the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan" by Robert L. Henderson c.2006. Not to mention many others who have made the same comparison.
> Let me give clueless relativists a clue: 
> You could reply: 
> 1. No relativity does not say you can change the distance and time in the equation to keep the speed the same. 
> OR: 
> 2. Yes, it does, but there is actually a rational reason why this is not lying.
That is if you are even capable of directly addressing the issue.

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