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charlatan syndrome

Started byLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
First post2023-08-13 11:26 -0700
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  charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 11:26 -0700
    Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 11:42 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 12:04 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 12:59 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:53 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 02:14 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 05:55 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:00 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:57 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:56 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:11 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 02:02 -0400
            Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:17 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 15:27 -0500
              Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 15:54 -0700
                Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 17:52 -0700
                Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 20:56 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-14 10:35 +0000
    Re: charlatan syndrome Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 21:03 +0200
      Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 12:07 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 09:25 +0200
          Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 01:15 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:55 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:01 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 15:16 -0500
          Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:57 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:03 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 19:05 +0200
              Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:16 -0700
                Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 15:26 -0500
            Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 15:20 -0500
    Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-13 15:31 -0400
      Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 12:49 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:14 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:45 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:47 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:52 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-14 10:46 +0000
          Re: charlatan syndrome patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-14 07:12 -0700
            Crank syndrome "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 07:17 -0700
            Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 10:05 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 13:43 -0700
                Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 14:10 -0700
                  Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 19:26 -0700
                    Re: charlatan syndrome Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 21:18 -0700
                      Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 21:58 -0700
                        Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 19:01 -0400
                          Re: charlatan syndrome Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:29 -0700
                            Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:11 -0700
                              Re: charlatan syndrome Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 21:56 -0700
                                Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 22:47 -0700
                      Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 23:44 -0700
                  Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 21:09 -0700
        Re: charlatan syndrome JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 16:28 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-13 19:13 -0500
          Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 21:18 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-14 10:52 +0000
            Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 09:59 -0700
          Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 01:15 -0400
            Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 23:42 -0700
              Re: charlatan syndrome Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 02:09 -0400
                Re: charlatan syndrome Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 23:22 -0700
    Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:10 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 09:27 +0200
    Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:49 -0700
      Re: charlatan syndrome Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:56 -0700

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#617572 — charlatan syndrome

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 11:26 -0700
Subjectcharlatan syndrome
Message-ID<877565ef-dce1-4dd5-9edd-31b47ca6ac06n@googlegroups.com>
charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən]
n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary.

For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion.

For example, relativists.

Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry when they point out that the emperor has no clothes. 

Authoritative source: "Einstein and the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan" by Robert L. Henderson c.2006. Not to mention many others who have made the same comparison.

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#617573

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 11:42 -0700
Message-ID<c21277b4-d39f-4c76-8134-4a133127a7e1n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617572
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> 
> For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> 
> For example, relativists. 

Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory,
just get over it and move on.

> Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry

Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to
write pseudoscientific word salad.

--
Jan

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#617579

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 12:04 -0700
Message-ID<ecd7f970-2089-4b4c-bf10-16a8d57a0160n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617573
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > 
> > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > 
> > For example, relativists.
> Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> just get over it and move on.
> > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry
> Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> 
> -- 
> Jan
It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply.

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#617589

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 12:59 -0700
Message-ID<40d2fa75-66c9-4f06-b72f-14b6268a640an@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617579
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > 
> > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > 
> > > For example, relativists. 
> > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > just get over it and move on. 
> > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jan
> 
> It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply.

It's very easy to write clever one-liners like "It is sad you are again unable
to make a coherent reply."

The fact is that one cannot answer "coherently", as you put it, to
a pseudoscientific, meaningless, word salad.

All you do is post complete nonsense that doesn't even *begin* to
touch the subject it pretends to be addressing.

So I just point it out. I suggest you switch to a hobby you can be good at
instead.

--
Jan

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#617599

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 13:53 -0700
Message-ID<36987c57-7eee-4220-a9ce-de1b8e2d1378n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617589
On Sunday, 13 August 2023 at 21:59:21 UTC+2, JanPB wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > > 
> > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > 
> > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > just get over it and move on. 
> > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Jan 
> > 
> > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply.
> It's very easy to write clever one-liners like "It is sad you are again unable
> to make a coherent reply."
> The fact is that one cannot answer "coherently", as you put it, to 
> a pseudoscientific, meaningless, word salad. 
> 
> All you do is post complete nonsense that doesn't even *begin* to 
> touch the subject it pretends to be addressing. 
> 
> So I just point it out. I suggest you switch to a hobby you can be good at 
> instead. 

Come on, trash, The Shit of your idiot guru was not even
consistent. It has been proven here,and apart of some 
moronic rants you can do nothing about it. Neither
your fellow idiots can.

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#617759

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 02:14 -0700
Message-ID<26b4b882-901b-442a-a933-2995b40a02c3n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617579
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > 
> > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > 
> > > For example, relativists. 
> > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > just get over it and move on. 
> > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jan
> It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply.

There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos.
So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like
frustrated screams of a madman.

--
Jan

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#617768

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 05:55 -0700
Message-ID<6a45355b-89e9-4eb7-9807-8d9cd0559ff5n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617759
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:14:32 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > >
> > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > 
> > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > just get over it and move on.
> > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry
> > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Jan
> > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply.
> There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos. 
> So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like 
> frustrated screams of a madman. 
> 
> -- 
> Jan

https://www.amazon.com.mx/Einstein-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan/dp/1419661094/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8

Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan – 9 enero 2007
Robert L. Henderson

2 reviews - 5 stars

Fiddler
5.0 de 5 estrellas Wake Up Call
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 31 de marzo de 2011
Compra verificada

Wow! This really opens one enormous can of worms!I couldn't put the book down. Einstein has been a hero of mine for many years and I love the explanation of gravity as a geometrical effect instead of a force. I love the way Einstein's relativity makes the whole universe understandable - even accessible physically as at only 0.8% of the speed of light humans could access any point in the universe in only 25 years due to time dilation. The Big Bang has been my creation story since childhood.

Henderson doesn't state it directly - but his closing sentence makes it clear: this has become a religion! No one dares contradict it - not because they don't want to - but because they don't want to look stupid. No one can successfully relate the abstract mathematics to reality - so they just pretend that they can. Ironically Einstein himself stated: "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." Perhaps someone should have listened to that!

Since being alerted by this book I have searched the internet and found a lot of scientists strongly in agreement with Henderson - many publishing videos and articles with the math explained etc.

My reason for buying this book is because I'd written a short article with the same title and then stumbled across this book by chance and was curious why he might have applied the title to Einstein. My own experience taught me that this effect is very real, so I could identify with what the author might have experienced. I am shocked however that this goes so deep into the fabric of our most advanced and venerated institutions. But then perhaps I should have expected that. This book is an excellent and thought-provoking read - but prepare to give up your scientific and mathematical religion!

[...]
I don't know if Henderson's solutions are on the right track but it's clear that we have to go back 100 years and pick up science where it took a wrong turning. No wonder they still use Newton even in the space age.


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#617770

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 06:00 -0700
Message-ID<1c2725cd-1d5e-472a-b006-0ccf6f738c61n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617768
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:14:32 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote: 
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > > just get over it and move on. 
> > > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Jan 
> > > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply. 
> > There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos. 
> > So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like 
> > frustrated screams of a madman. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jan
> https://www.amazon.com.mx/Einstein-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan/dp/1419661094/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 
> 
> Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan – 9 enero 2007 
> Robert L. Henderson 
> 
> 2 reviews - 5 stars 
> 
> Fiddler 
> 5.0 de 5 estrellas Wake Up Call 
> Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 31 de marzo de 2011 
> Compra verificada 
> 
> Wow! This really opens one enormous can of worms!I couldn't put the book down. Einstein has been a hero of mine for many years and I love the explanation of gravity as a geometrical effect instead of a force. I love the way Einstein's relativity makes the whole universe understandable - even accessible physically as at only 0.8% of the speed of light humans could access any point in the universe in only 25 years due to time dilation. The Big Bang has been my creation story since childhood. 
> 
> Henderson doesn't state it directly - but his closing sentence makes it clear: this has become a religion! No one dares contradict it - not because they don't want to - but because they don't want to look stupid. No one can successfully relate the abstract mathematics to reality - so they just pretend that they can. Ironically Einstein himself stated: "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." Perhaps someone should have listened to that! 
> 
> Since being alerted by this book I have searched the internet and found a lot of scientists strongly in agreement with Henderson - many publishing videos and articles with the math explained etc. 
> 
> My reason for buying this book is because I'd written a short article with the same title and then stumbled across this book by chance and was curious why he might have applied the title to Einstein. My own experience taught me that this effect is very real, so I could identify with what the author might have experienced. I am shocked however that this goes so deep into the fabric of our most advanced and venerated institutions. But then perhaps I should have expected that. This book is an excellent and thought-provoking read - but prepare to give up your scientific and mathematical religion! 
> 
> [...] 
> I don't know if Henderson's solutions are on the right track but it's clear that we have to go back 100 years and pick up science where it took a wrong turning. No wonder they still use Newton even in the space age. 
> 
> 
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> A 11 personas les resultó útil

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https://www.abebooks.com/9781419661099/Einstein-The-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan-1419661094/plp

Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan - Softcover
Henderson, Robert L.


Synopsis

The purpose of this book is to explain how, through a strange set of circumstances, Albert Einstein became hailed as both the greatest scientist of all time and the greatest man of the 20th century. This is particularly puzzling since he was perhaps the most irrational person ever to masquerade as a mathematician or scientist. The book explains how all of Einstein's impossible concepts of the world around us--as well as his unintelligible attempts to mathematically express those concepts--became accepted solely through operation of The-Emperor's-New-Clothes syndrome: the most egregious example of this syndrome that has ever occurred.

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#617779

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 09:57 -0700
Message-ID<6037357d-6148-4fd2-849a-7348a5627d6an@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617770
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:00:37 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:14:32 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > > > just get over it and move on. 
> > > > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > > > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Jan 
> > > > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply. 
> > > There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos. 
> > > So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like 
> > > frustrated screams of a madman. 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Jan 
> > https://www.amazon.com.mx/Einstein-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan/dp/1419661094/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 
> > 
> > Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan – 9 enero 2007 
> > Robert L. Henderson 
> > 
> > 2 reviews - 5 stars 
> > 
> > Fiddler 
> > 5.0 de 5 estrellas Wake Up Call 
> > Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 31 de marzo de 2011 
> > Compra verificada 
> > 
> > Wow! This really opens one enormous can of worms!I couldn't put the book down. Einstein has been a hero of mine for many years and I love the explanation of gravity as a geometrical effect instead of a force. I love the way Einstein's relativity makes the whole universe understandable - even accessible physically as at only 0.8% of the speed of light humans could access any point in the universe in only 25 years due to time dilation. The Big Bang has been my creation story since childhood. 
> > 
> > Henderson doesn't state it directly - but his closing sentence makes it clear: this has become a religion! No one dares contradict it - not because they don't want to - but because they don't want to look stupid. No one can successfully relate the abstract mathematics to reality - so they just pretend that they can. Ironically Einstein himself stated: "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." Perhaps someone should have listened to that! 
> > 
> > Since being alerted by this book I have searched the internet and found a lot of scientists strongly in agreement with Henderson - many publishing videos and articles with the math explained etc. 
> > 
> > My reason for buying this book is because I'd written a short article with the same title and then stumbled across this book by chance and was curious why he might have applied the title to Einstein. My own experience taught me that this effect is very real, so I could identify with what the author might have experienced. I am shocked however that this goes so deep into the fabric of our most advanced and venerated institutions. But then perhaps I should have expected that. This book is an excellent and thought-provoking read - but prepare to give up your scientific and mathematical religion! 
> > 
> > [...] 
> > I don't know if Henderson's solutions are on the right track but it's clear that we have to go back 100 years and pick up science where it took a wrong turning. No wonder they still use Newton even in the space age. 
> > 
> > 
> > Leer menos 
> > A 11 personas les resultó útil
> ***************************************************** 
> 
> https://www.abebooks.com/9781419661099/Einstein-The-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan-1419661094/plp 
> 
> Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan - Softcover 
> Henderson, Robert L. 
> 
> 
> Synopsis 
> 
> The purpose of this book is to explain how, through a strange set of circumstances, Albert Einstein became hailed as both the greatest scientist of all time and the greatest man of the 20th century. This is particularly puzzling 

No, iot's not puzzling. The author is simply an ignoramus.

> since he was perhaps the most irrational person ever to masquerade as a mathematician or scientist. The book explains how all of Einstein's impossible concepts of the world around us--as well as his unintelligible attempts to mathematically express those concepts--became accepted solely through operation of The-Emperor's-New-Clothes syndrome: the most egregious example of this syndrome that has ever occurred.

Word salad.

--
Jan

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#617778

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 09:56 -0700
Message-ID<edb8cbc1-e338-4b24-b425-86e3eb508075n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617768
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:55:38 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:14:32 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote: 
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > > just get over it and move on. 
> > > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Jan 
> > > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply. 
> > There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos. 
> > So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like 
> > frustrated screams of a madman. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jan
> https://www.amazon.com.mx/Einstein-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan/dp/1419661094/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 
> 
> Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan – 9 enero 2007 
> Robert L. Henderson 
> 
> 2 reviews - 5 stars 

Another idiot.

--
Jan

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#617786

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 10:11 -0700
Message-ID<c1250f53-b56d-4b0f-9166-fd2a5fa90a07n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617768
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:55:38 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:14:32 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote: 
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > > just get over it and move on. 
> > > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Jan 
> > > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply. 
> > There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos. 
> > So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like 
> > frustrated screams of a madman. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jan
> https://www.amazon.com.mx/Einstein-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan/dp/1419661094/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 
> 
> Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan – 9 enero 2007 
> Robert L. Henderson 
> 
> 2 reviews - 5 stars 
> 
> Fiddler 
> 5.0 de 5 estrellas Wake Up Call 
> Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 31 de marzo de 2011 
> Compra verificada 
> 
> Wow! This really opens one enormous can of worms!I couldn't put the book down. Einstein has been a hero of mine for many years and I love the explanation of gravity as a geometrical effect instead of a force. I love the way Einstein's relativity makes the whole universe understandable - even accessible physically as at only 0.8% of the speed of light humans could access any point in the universe in only 25 years due to time dilation. The Big Bang has been my creation story since childhood. 
> 
> Henderson doesn't state it directly - but his closing sentence makes it clear: this has become a religion! No one dares contradict it - not because they don't want to - but because they don't want to look stupid. No one can successfully relate the abstract mathematics to reality - so they just pretend that they can. Ironically Einstein himself stated: "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." Perhaps someone should have listened to that! 
> 
> Since being alerted by this book I have searched the internet and found a lot of scientists strongly in agreement with Henderson - many publishing videos and articles with the math explained etc. 
> 
> My reason for buying this book is because I'd written a short article with the same title and then stumbled across this book by chance and was curious why he might have applied the title to Einstein. My own experience taught me that this effect is very real, so I could identify with what the author might have experienced. I am shocked however that this goes so deep into the fabric of our most advanced and venerated institutions. But then perhaps I should have expected that. This book is an excellent and thought-provoking read - but prepare to give up your scientific and mathematical religion! 
> 
> [...] 
> I don't know if Henderson's solutions are on the right track but it's clear that we have to go back 100 years and pick up science where it took a wrong turning. No wonder they still use Newton even in the space age. 
> 
> 
> Leer menos 
> A 11 personas les resultó útil
On Amazon.com there is 1 Used from $1,285.03.

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#617880

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-08-16 02:02 -0400
Message-ID<ubhopo$36tth$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#617786
On 8/15/2023 1:11 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> On Amazon.com there is 1 Used from $1,285.03.

Quick! Sell yours to some bigger fool and have a little vacation!

Oh right, you never read it so you don't have a copy. Hey, you would 
make a great bigger fool for someone, why not buy that?

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#617790

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 10:17 -0700
Message-ID<7d21a933-32a2-4f58-af63-5d7e0a57d4aen@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617768
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:55:38 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:14:32 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote: 
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > > just get over it and move on. 
> > > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Jan 
> > > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply. 
> > There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos. 
> > So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like 
> > frustrated screams of a madman. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jan
> https://www.amazon.com.mx/Einstein-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan/dp/1419661094/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 
> 
> Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan – 9 enero 2007 
> Robert L. Henderson 
> 
> 2 reviews - 5 stars 
> 
> Fiddler 
> 5.0 de 5 estrellas Wake Up Call 
> Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 31 de marzo de 2011 
> Compra verificada 
> 
> Wow! This really opens one enormous can of worms!I couldn't put the book down. Einstein has been a hero of mine for many years and I love the explanation of gravity as a geometrical effect instead of a force. I love the way Einstein's relativity makes the whole universe understandable - even accessible physically as at only 0.8% of the speed of light humans could access any point in the universe in only 25 years due to time dilation. The Big Bang has been my creation story since childhood. 
> 
> Henderson doesn't state it directly - but his closing sentence makes it clear: this has become a religion! No one dares contradict it - not because they don't want to - but because they don't want to look stupid. No one can successfully relate the abstract mathematics to reality - so they just pretend that they can. Ironically Einstein himself stated: "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." Perhaps someone should have listened to that! 
> 
> Since being alerted by this book I have searched the internet and found a lot of scientists strongly in agreement with Henderson - many publishing videos and articles with the math explained etc. 
> 
> My reason for buying this book is because I'd written a short article with the same title and then stumbled across this book by chance and was curious why he might have applied the title to Einstein. My own experience taught me that this effect is very real, so I could identify with what the author might have experienced. I am shocked however that this goes so deep into the fabric of our most advanced and venerated institutions. But then perhaps I should have expected that. This book is an excellent and thought-provoking read - but prepare to give up your scientific and mathematical religion! 
> 
> [...] 
> I don't know if Henderson's solutions are on the right track but it's clear that we have to go back 100 years and pick up science where it took a wrong turning. No wonder they still use Newton even in the space age. 
> 
> 
> Leer menos 
> A 11 personas les resultó útil
Like Einstein, relativists pretend to be intelligent while championing a stupid theory.

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#617828

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-08-15 15:27 -0500
Message-ID<kk25drFlkqaU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#617790
On 8/15/2023 12:17 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

<...>

> Like Einstein, relativists pretend to be intelligent while championing a stupid theory.

Quiet!!! Madman speaking!

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#617840

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 15:54 -0700
Message-ID<ae7aa208-2954-4fba-b166-027535f1788en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617790
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:55:38 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:14:32 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > > > just get over it and move on. 
> > > > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > > > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Jan 
> > > > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply. 
> > > There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos. 
> > > So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like 
> > > frustrated screams of a madman. 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Jan 
> > https://www.amazon.com.mx/Einstein-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan/dp/1419661094/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 
> > 
> > Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan – 9 enero 2007 
> > Robert L. Henderson 
> > 
> > 2 reviews - 5 stars 
> > 
> > Fiddler 
> > 5.0 de 5 estrellas Wake Up Call 
> > Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 31 de marzo de 2011 
> > Compra verificada 
> > 
> > Wow! This really opens one enormous can of worms!I couldn't put the book down. Einstein has been a hero of mine for many years and I love the explanation of gravity as a geometrical effect instead of a force. I love the way Einstein's relativity makes the whole universe understandable - even accessible physically as at only 0.8% of the speed of light humans could access any point in the universe in only 25 years due to time dilation. The Big Bang has been my creation story since childhood. 
> > 
> > Henderson doesn't state it directly - but his closing sentence makes it clear: this has become a religion! No one dares contradict it - not because they don't want to - but because they don't want to look stupid. No one can successfully relate the abstract mathematics to reality - so they just pretend that they can. Ironically Einstein himself stated: "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." Perhaps someone should have listened to that! 
> > 
> > Since being alerted by this book I have searched the internet and found a lot of scientists strongly in agreement with Henderson - many publishing videos and articles with the math explained etc. 
> > 
> > My reason for buying this book is because I'd written a short article with the same title and then stumbled across this book by chance and was curious why he might have applied the title to Einstein. My own experience taught me that this effect is very real, so I could identify with what the author might have experienced. I am shocked however that this goes so deep into the fabric of our most advanced and venerated institutions. But then perhaps I should have expected that. This book is an excellent and thought-provoking read - but prepare to give up your scientific and mathematical religion! 
> > 
> > [...] 
> > I don't know if Henderson's solutions are on the right track but it's clear that we have to go back 100 years and pick up science where it took a wrong turning. No wonder they still use Newton even in the space age. 
> > 
> > 
> > Leer menos 
> > A 11 personas les resultó útil
> Like Einstein, relativists pretend to be intelligent while championing a stupid theory.

No need to confabulate weird conspiracy theories. What's happening is
you simply don't understand this theory (and probably nothing in physics
but this I cannot tell for sure yet).

As to why an adult would choose to throw invective at something he
does not understand is a question for a specialist in mental derangements.

--
Jan

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#617853

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 17:52 -0700
Message-ID<b92530cd-58fa-4905-8e32-094d745a07afn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617840
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:54:53 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:55:38 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:14:32 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > > > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > > > > just get over it and move on. 
> > > > > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > > > > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > > > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply. 
> > > > There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos. 
> > > > So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like 
> > > > frustrated screams of a madman. 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Jan 
> > > https://www.amazon.com.mx/Einstein-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan/dp/1419661094/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 
> > > 
> > > Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan – 9 enero 2007 
> > > Robert L. Henderson 
> > > 
> > > 2 reviews - 5 stars 
> > > 
> > > Fiddler 
> > > 5.0 de 5 estrellas Wake Up Call 
> > > Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 31 de marzo de 2011 
> > > Compra verificada 
> > > 
> > > Wow! This really opens one enormous can of worms!I couldn't put the book down. Einstein has been a hero of mine for many years and I love the explanation of gravity as a geometrical effect instead of a force. I love the way Einstein's relativity makes the whole universe understandable - even accessible physically as at only 0.8% of the speed of light humans could access any point in the universe in only 25 years due to time dilation. The Big Bang has been my creation story since childhood. 
> > > 
> > > Henderson doesn't state it directly - but his closing sentence makes it clear: this has become a religion! No one dares contradict it - not because they don't want to - but because they don't want to look stupid. No one can successfully relate the abstract mathematics to reality - so they just pretend that they can. Ironically Einstein himself stated: "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." Perhaps someone should have listened to that! 
> > > 
> > > Since being alerted by this book I have searched the internet and found a lot of scientists strongly in agreement with Henderson - many publishing videos and articles with the math explained etc. 
> > > 
> > > My reason for buying this book is because I'd written a short article with the same title and then stumbled across this book by chance and was curious why he might have applied the title to Einstein. My own experience taught me that this effect is very real, so I could identify with what the author might have experienced. I am shocked however that this goes so deep into the fabric of our most advanced and venerated institutions. But then perhaps I should have expected that. This book is an excellent and thought-provoking read - but prepare to give up your scientific and mathematical religion! 
> > > 
> > > [...] 
> > > I don't know if Henderson's solutions are on the right track but it's clear that we have to go back 100 years and pick up science where it took a wrong turning. No wonder they still use Newton even in the space age. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Leer menos 
> > > A 11 personas les resultó útil 
> > Like Einstein, relativists pretend to be intelligent while championing a stupid theory.
> No need to confabulate weird conspiracy theories. What's happening is 
> you simply don't understand this theory (and probably nothing in physics 
> but this I cannot tell for sure yet). 
> 
> As to why an adult would choose to throw invective at something he 
> does not understand is a question for a specialist in mental derangements. 
> 
> -- 
> Jan
Saying "pretending to be intelligent" is not invective. Try to up your comprehension.

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#617866

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-15 20:56 -0700
Message-ID<6ad30e94-3d89-4dd2-b150-4e6af773489fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617840
On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 00:54:53 UTC+2, JanPB wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:55:38 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:14:32 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > > > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > > > > > > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative motion. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For example, relativists. 
> > > > > > Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory, 
> > > > > > just get over it and move on. 
> > > > > > > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry 
> > > > > > Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to 
> > > > > > write pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > It is sad you are again unable to make a coherent reply. 
> > > > There is no such thing as "coherent reply" to complete mental chaos. 
> > > > So I just pointed out your post was nonsense. It looked like 
> > > > frustrated screams of a madman. 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Jan 
> > > https://www.amazon.com.mx/Einstein-Emperors-New-Clothes-Syndrome-Expose-Charlatan/dp/1419661094/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 
> > > 
> > > Einstein and The-Emperor's-New-Clothes Syndrome: The Expose of a Charlatan – 9 enero 2007 
> > > Robert L. Henderson 
> > > 
> > > 2 reviews - 5 stars 
> > > 
> > > Fiddler 
> > > 5.0 de 5 estrellas Wake Up Call 
> > > Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 31 de marzo de 2011 
> > > Compra verificada 
> > > 
> > > Wow! This really opens one enormous can of worms!I couldn't put the book down. Einstein has been a hero of mine for many years and I love the explanation of gravity as a geometrical effect instead of a force. I love the way Einstein's relativity makes the whole universe understandable - even accessible physically as at only 0.8% of the speed of light humans could access any point in the universe in only 25 years due to time dilation. The Big Bang has been my creation story since childhood. 
> > > 
> > > Henderson doesn't state it directly - but his closing sentence makes it clear: this has become a religion! No one dares contradict it - not because they don't want to - but because they don't want to look stupid. No one can successfully relate the abstract mathematics to reality - so they just pretend that they can. Ironically Einstein himself stated: "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." Perhaps someone should have listened to that! 
> > > 
> > > Since being alerted by this book I have searched the internet and found a lot of scientists strongly in agreement with Henderson - many publishing videos and articles with the math explained etc. 
> > > 
> > > My reason for buying this book is because I'd written a short article with the same title and then stumbled across this book by chance and was curious why he might have applied the title to Einstein. My own experience taught me that this effect is very real, so I could identify with what the author might have experienced. I am shocked however that this goes so deep into the fabric of our most advanced and venerated institutions. But then perhaps I should have expected that. This book is an excellent and thought-provoking read - but prepare to give up your scientific and mathematical religion! 
> > > 
> > > [...] 
> > > I don't know if Henderson's solutions are on the right track but it's clear that we have to go back 100 years and pick up science where it took a wrong turning. No wonder they still use Newton even in the space age. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Leer menos 
> > > A 11 personas les resultó útil 
> > Like Einstein, relativists pretend to be intelligent while championing a stupid theory.
> No need to confabulate weird conspiracy theories. What's happening is 
> you simply don't understand this theory (and probably nothing in physics 
> but this I cannot tell for sure yet). 

Your beloved Shit has been proved inconsistent, poor trash.
Tour wise faces are not changing anything.

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#617649

FromRichard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr>
Date2023-08-14 10:35 +0000
Message-ID<1tbLlF3He8-6XJE6zeLetu0NyW4@jntp>
In reply to#617573
Le 13/08/2023 à 20:42, JanPB a écrit :
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
>> n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than he 
>> actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of supposed remedies): 
>> from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
>> 
>> For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the distance and 
>> time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same regardless of relative 
>> motion. 
>> 
>> For example, relativists. 
> 
> Stop fantasising. This is just silliness. You don't understand the theory,
> just get over it and move on.
> 
>> Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is charlatanry
> 
> Oh patent nonsense. Not even wrong, gobbledygook. You do know how to
> write pseudoscientific word salad.
> 
> --
> Jan

"However, it is clear that many things do not stick" Doctor Richard Hachel

"It doesn't fit, sir, my wife says that there is the cherrue before the 
oxen, it's not logical" Inspector Columbo

"There's something wrong with Hasting, why did that woman walk into the 
hotel with a green hat and come out with a red hat?" Hercule Poirot

"We must cultivate our garden". Voltaire

R.H. 

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#617578

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 21:03 +0200
Message-ID<kjsnofFp2q5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#617572
On 2023-08-13 18:26:37 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:

> charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən]
> n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than 
> he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of 
> supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to 
> babble'."-Babylon Dictionary.
> 
> For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the 
> distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same 
> regardless of relative motion.
> 
> For example, relativists.
> 
> Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is 
> charlatanry when they point out that the emperor has no clothes.
> Authoritative source: "Einstein and the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome: 
> The Expose of a Charlatan" by Robert L. Henderson c.2006. Not to 
> mention many others who have made the same comparison.

Citing another crackpot with no evident qualifications in physics won't 
convince anyone apart from other crackpots who are convinced already.

What's the basis for your "Authoritative"?


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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#617580

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com>
Date2023-08-13 12:07 -0700
Message-ID<ef72ece3-649e-4f32-9795-a7e7ffa3ed88n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617578
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:03:49 PM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2023-08-13 18:26:37 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: 
> 
> > charlatan[char·la·tan || 'ʃɑːlətən] 
> > n. quack, impostor, fraud, one who claims more skill or knowledge than 
> > he actually has....Origin: C17 (denoting an itinerant seller of 
> > supposed remedies): from Fr., from Ital. ciarlatano, from ciarlare 'to 
> > babble'."-Babylon Dictionary. 
> > 
> > For example, one who says 2 + 2= five or that he can change the 
> > distance and time in the speed equation to keep the speed the same 
> > regardless of relative motion. 
> > 
> > For example, relativists. 
> > 
> > Thousands of scientists have long recognized that relativity is 
> > charlatanry when they point out that the emperor has no clothes. 
> > Authoritative source: "Einstein and the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome: 
> > The Expose of a Charlatan" by Robert L. Henderson c.2006. Not to 
> > mention many others who have made the same comparison.
> Citing another crackpot with no evident qualifications in physics won't 
> convince anyone apart from other crackpots who are convinced already. 
> 
> What's the basis for your "Authoritative"? 
> 
> 
> -- 
> athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
The basis is reasoning. The reasoning of the critics is correct, and the defenders of relativity are gibberish. The point is relativity is totally phony, as has been shown if you would ever deign to examine the critic's works which you are ignorant of because of your weak-minded inclination to appeal to authority.

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