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  For Athel's ears only patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-11 11:34 -0700
    Re: For Athel's ears only Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-11 14:00 -0700
      Re: For Athel's ears only "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-12 11:27 -0700
        Re: For Athel's ears only Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-12 17:23 -0400
          Re: For Athel's ears only "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-12 16:06 -0700
            Re: For Athel's ears only Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 10:21 +0200
          Re: For Athel's ears only Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 10:18 +0200

#617383 — For Athel's ears only

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#617409

On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 11:34:18 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:

> https://breakpoint.org/which-theory-of-evolution-toppling-the-idol-of-settled-science-2/?utm_campaign=Product%20-%20Breakpoint%20Daily%20BPD&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=269714785&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8flN_83aNKTjkrLY7V5ivKMXYnfkpsMINJUlF-uxnt4g6MENK-DUBPKN8pM7o4BuEFiEMjTDX6JHzwfWjGn0D0Je_4Bg&utm_content=269714785&utm_source=hs_email

What do you expect from a very conservative Christian organization?

No actual scientist would ever call the theory of evolution "settled science", and this article is highly biased from my own point of view.

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#617473

On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 2:00:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 11:34:18 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote: 
> 
> > https://breakpoint.org/which-theory-of-evolution-toppling-the-idol-of-settled-science-2/?utm_campaign=Product%20-%20Breakpoint%20Daily%20BPD&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=269714785&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8flN_83aNKTjkrLY7V5ivKMXYnfkpsMINJUlF-uxnt4g6MENK-DUBPKN8pM7o4BuEFiEMjTDX6JHzwfWjGn0D0Je_4Bg&utm_content=269714785&utm_source=hs_email 
> 
> What do you expect from a very conservative Christian organization? 
> 
> No actual scientist would ever call the theory of evolution "settled science", and this article is highly biased from my own point of view.

Then if science is not evolution what is your science ? 
How did man originating from Africa become four different races?
How did African caveman become the different races?
If the continents drift what mechanism pushes them apart?

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#617505

On 8/12/2023 2:27 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 2:00:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
>> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 11:34:18 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
>>
>>> https://breakpoint.org/which-theory-of-evolution-toppling-the-idol-of-settled-science-2/?utm_campaign=Product%20-%20Breakpoint%20Daily%20BPD&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=269714785&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8flN_83aNKTjkrLY7V5ivKMXYnfkpsMINJUlF-uxnt4g6MENK-DUBPKN8pM7o4BuEFiEMjTDX6JHzwfWjGn0D0Je_4Bg&utm_content=269714785&utm_source=hs_email
>>
>> What do you expect from a very conservative Christian organization?
>>
>> No actual scientist would ever call the theory of evolution "settled science", and this article is highly biased from my own point of view.
> 
> Then if science is not evolution what is your science ?

Roy, it's still science, he just said it's not "settled science".

> How did man originating from Africa become four different races?

"Four races" is an obsolete concept. There's a bigger genetic difference 
  between black people from West Africa and those from East Africa than 
there is between natives of Ireland and Japan.

> How did African caveman become the different races?

Again, drop the "races" crap. Random mutations and survival of the 
fittest caused differences in people living in different areas.

> If the continents drift what mechanism pushes them apart?

Convection currents in the mantle.
> 

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#617525

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 2:23:27 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 8/12/2023 2:27 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 2:00:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> >> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 11:34:18 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> https://breakpoint.org/which-theory-of-evolution-toppling-the-idol-of-settled-science-2/?utm_campaign=Product%20-%20Breakpoint%20Daily%20BPD&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=269714785&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8flN_83aNKTjkrLY7V5ivKMXYnfkpsMINJUlF-uxnt4g6MENK-DUBPKN8pM7o4BuEFiEMjTDX6JHzwfWjGn0D0Je_4Bg&utm_content=269714785&utm_source=hs_email 
> >> 
> >> What do you expect from a very conservative Christian organization? 
> >> 
> >> No actual scientist would ever call the theory of evolution "settled science", and this article is highly biased from my own point of view. 
> > 
> > Then if science is not evolution what is your science ?
> Roy, it's still science, he just said it's not "settled science".
But paul doesn't believe it is certain in any way.
That means science is wrong.
> > How did man originating from Africa become four different races?
> "Four races" is an obsolete concept. There's a bigger genetic difference 
> between black people from West Africa and those from East Africa than 
> there is between natives of Ireland and Japan.
What are you talking about? If man came from Africa how could he become cave man
and of four races?
> > How did African caveman become the different races?
> Again, drop the "races" crap. Random mutations and survival of the 
> fittest caused differences in people living in different areas.
> > If the continents drift what mechanism pushes them apart?
> Convection currents in the mantle. 
What moves the mantle  currents? how does it move the continents?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#617547

On 2023-08-12 23:06:11 +0000, mitchr...@gmail.com said:

> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 2:23:27 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>> On 8/12/2023 2:27 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:> > On Friday, August 
>> 11, 2023 at 2:00:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:> >> On Friday, August 
>> 11, 2023 at 11:34:18 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:> >>> >>> 
>> https://breakpoint.org/which-theory-of-evolution-toppling-the-idol-of-settled-science-2/?utm_campaign=Product%20-%20Breakpoint%20Daily%20BPD&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=269714785&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8flN_83aNKTjkrLY7V5ivKMXYnfkpsMINJUlF-uxnt4g6MENK-DUBPKN8pM7o4BuEFiEMjTDX6JHzwfWjGn0D0Je_4Bg&utm_content=269714785&utm_source=hs_email> 
>> >>> >> What do you expect from a very conservative Christian 
>> organization?> >>> >> No actual scientist would ever call the theory of 
>> evolution "settled science", and this article is highly biased from my 
>> own point of view.> >> > Then if science is not evolution what is your 
>> science ?
>> Roy, it's still science, he just said it's not "settled science".
> But paul doesn't believe it is certain in any way.
> That means science is wrong.
>>> How did man originating from Africa become four different races?
>> "Four races" is an obsolete concept. There's a bigger genetic 
>> difference> between black people from West Africa and those from East 
>> Africa than> there is between natives of Ireland and Japan.
> What are you talking about?

He's talking about genetic comparisons between people in different 
localities. If you don't understand this it will be best if you read 
about it, and come back when you think you have understood what you 
have read.

>  If man came from Africa how could he become cave man
> and of four races?

Did you not read what Volney said about this? It's even quoted by you 
in your message.

>>> How did African caveman become the different races?
>> Again, drop the "races" crap. Random mutations and survival of the> 
>> fittest caused differences in people living in different areas.
>>> If the continents drift what mechanism pushes them apart?
>> Convection currents in the mantle.What moves the mantle  currents? how 
>> does it move the continents?
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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#617546

On 2023-08-12 21:23:24 +0000, Volney said:

> On 8/12/2023 2:27 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 2:00:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 11:34:18 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> https://breakpoint.org/which-theory-of-evolution-toppling-the-idol-of-settled-science-2/?utm_campaign=Product%20-%20Breakpoint%20Daily%20BPD&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=269714785&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8flN_83aNKTjkrLY7V5ivKMXYnfkpsMINJUlF-uxnt4g6MENK-DUBPKN8pM7o4BuEFiEMjTDX6JHzwfWjGn0D0Je_4Bg&utm_content=269714785&utm_source=hs_email 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> What do you expect from a very conservative Christian organization?
>>> 
>>> No actual scientist would ever call the theory of evolution "settled 
>>> science", and this article is highly biased from my own point of view.
>> 
>> Then if science is not evolution what is your science ?
> 
> Roy, it's still science, he just said it's not "settled science".
> 
>> How did man originating from Africa become four different races?
> 
> "Four races" is an obsolete concept. There's a bigger genetic 
> difference   between black people from West Africa and those from East 
> Africa than there is between natives of Ireland and Japan.

Or even among people from West Africa.
> 
>> How did African caveman become the different races?
> 
> Again, drop the "races" crap. Random mutations and survival of the 
> fittest caused differences in people living in different areas.

He might as well drop the "caveman" nonsense as well while he's at it.
> 
>> If the continents drift what mechanism pushes them apart?

Even at the time of Wegener people were raising this objection, and 
proposing much more absurd explanations of the match between South 
America and Africa, such as "land bridges" that inexplicably sank. 
Anyway, we've learned a lot since then. Even the theory of plate 
tectonics has been around now for more than half a century. I suggest 
you read the article on it at Wikipedia and see if you can understand 
it.
> 
> Convection currents in the mantle.


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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