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| Started by | Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2023-08-07 01:50 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-08-09 19:01 -0500 |
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Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-07 01:50 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-08-07 10:26 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 13:26 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-08-07 14:03 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-07 17:04 -0400
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-08-07 14:06 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-07 23:32 -0400
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 21:15 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Hever Zhelobinsky <zzzz@ohhsoyby.ne> - 2023-08-08 10:15 +0000
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 07:27 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-08 09:54 -0500
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-08 11:08 -0400
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 11:06 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-09 19:05 -0500
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 19:11 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-09 22:02 -0500
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 21:03 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-10 07:49 -0400
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-08-07 16:28 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-07 22:26 -0500
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-08 00:13 -0400
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-08-07 16:30 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-07 22:28 -0500
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-08 11:11 -0400
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 09:05 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-08-07 16:34 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-07 22:29 -0500
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-08 00:17 -0400
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-07 21:36 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 08:20 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-08 10:30 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-08 12:48 -0500
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 08:10 +0200
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-08-07 10:35 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-07 12:40 -0500
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-08 00:11 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-10 10:40 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-10 10:52 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 11:25 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-09 11:06 -0700
Re: Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-09 19:01 -0500
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 00:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <uasfe8$37rgj$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #617055 |
On 8/7/2023 7:28 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: >> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >> >>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. >> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as >> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > If anyone changes the distance or time in the speed formula for anything while keeping the speed unchanged, the math is incorrect. That is what happens when it is claimed the speed of light is always "measured" as c irrespective of relative motion. Sorry, that is gibberish. Say that again, but in English, this time?
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 16:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7187e5cc-6ad3-40c6-b703-a74eb0af32b2n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617041 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > > Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. > You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as > c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. If a business kept its books like that it would be guilty of fraud.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 22:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kjdr2lFc55nU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #617056 |
On 8/7/2023 6:30 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: >> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >> >>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. >> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as >> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > If a business kept its books like that it would be guilty of fraud. Once again you're not addressing the well stated issue. Is this alcohol talking or something stronger?
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 11:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <uatlv3$3eccp$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #617056 |
On 8/7/2023 7:30 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: >> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >> >>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. >> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as >> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > If a business kept its books like that it would be guilty of fraud. And just how is correctly measuring the speed of light and correctly recording the measured value fraudulent?
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 09:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <68b2a7bc-b091-46c6-a2dc-7e1a5641fcd2n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617113 |
On Tuesday, 8 August 2023 at 17:11:34 UTC+2, Volney wrote: > On 8/7/2023 7:30 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > >> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. > >> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as > >> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > > > If a business kept its books like that it would be guilty of fraud. > And just how is correctly measuring the speed of light and correctly > recording the measured value fraudulent? It;s nothing but assertions of your idiot gurus that the measurements are correct, stupid Mike. Sorry.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 16:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <88d6a221-74c9-4b8f-94fb-09858630c0d6n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617041 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > > Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. > You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as > c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. Please see: "The Special Theory of Relativity: Mathematical Refutations" by Radwan M. Kassir
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 22:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kjdr53Fc55nU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #617057 |
On 8/7/2023 6:34 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: >> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >> >>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. >> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as >> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > Please see: "The Special Theory of Relativity: Mathematical Refutations" by Radwan M. Kassir Yes, sore, because the idols you worship are better than anything.
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 00:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <uasfkd$37rgj$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #617057 |
On 8/7/2023 7:34 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: >> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >> >>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. >> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as >> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > Please see: "The Special Theory of Relativity: Mathematical Refutations" by Radwan M. Kassir Before what I do, what credentials does Radwan have? A doctorate as a child therapist or something?
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 21:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b5426a5f-57df-4d48-9c38-6b087aa9c355n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617077 |
On Tuesday, 8 August 2023 at 06:17:20 UTC+2, Volney wrote: > On 8/7/2023 7:34 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > >> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. > >> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as > >> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > > > Please see: "The Special Theory of Relativity: Mathematical Refutations" by Radwan M. Kassir > Before what I do, what credentials does Radwan have? A doctorate as a > child therapist or something? And what credentials do you have when claiming that your ISO idiocy is some "Newton mode", stupid Mike?
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 08:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <540eef64-9a9d-4e30-800d-c01cde73dbean@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #617079 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:36:27 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > On Tuesday, 8 August 2023 at 06:17:20 UTC+2, Volney wrote: > > On 8/7/2023 7:34 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > > >> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > >> > > >>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. > > >> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as > > >> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > > > > > Please see: "The Special Theory of Relativity: Mathematical Refutations" by Radwan M. Kassir > > Before what I do, what credentials does Radwan have? A doctorate as a > > child therapist or something? > And what credentials do you have when claiming that > your ISO idiocy is some "Newton mode", stupid Mike? I wonder how they couldn't understand the video?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 10:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <64D27BBD.24E3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #617115 |
Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:36:27 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > On Tuesday, 8 August 2023 at 06:17:20 UTC+2, Volney wrote: > > > On 8/7/2023 7:34 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > > > >> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. > > > >> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as > > > >> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > > > > > > > Please see: "The Special Theory of Relativity: Mathematical Refutations" by Radwan M. Kassir > > > Before what I do, what credentials does Radwan have? A doctorate as a > > > child therapist or something? > > And what credentials do you have when claiming that > > your ISO idiocy is some "Newton mode", stupid Mike? > I wonder how they couldn't understand the video? pictures move too fast.. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 12:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kjfdf6Fk4otU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #617115 |
On 8/8/2023 10:20 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:36:27 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >> On Tuesday, 8 August 2023 at 06:17:20 UTC+2, Volney wrote: >>> On 8/7/2023 7:34 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >>>> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: >>>>> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of the two stars approaching each other. >>>>> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as >>>>> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. >>> >>>> Please see: "The Special Theory of Relativity: Mathematical Refutations" by Radwan M. Kassir >>> Before what I do, what credentials does Radwan have? A doctorate as a >>> child therapist or something? >> And what credentials do you have when claiming that >> your ISO idiocy is some "Newton mode", stupid Mike? > I wonder how they couldn't understand the video? As I said before, you don't actually understand it, any of physics actually.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 08:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kje4i6FdkhtU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #617077 |
On 2023-08-08 04:17:16 +0000, Volney said: > On 8/7/2023 7:34 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: >>> On 8/7/2023 1:26 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, the speed of the starlight from Sirius is 300,005.5 km/sec, and >>>> this is recognized by modern astronomy as giving the radial velocity of >>>> the two stars approaching each other. >>> You lie. Why do you lie? The speed of light from Sirius is MEASURED as >>> c, as well as predicted as c by modern physics. > >> Please see: "The Special Theory of Relativity: Mathematical >> Refutations" by Radwan M. Kassir > > Before what I do, what credentials does Radwan have? A doctorate as a > child therapist or something? Not even a "review" at Amazon for this one. Not even one by Laurence Clark Crossen saying that it must be good because it agrees with his crackpottery. -- athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 10:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a3ff8e0c-768d-4d7f-bd07-c06c898cedefn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616973 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 1:51:01 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote: > (frequency at observer) = (speed of light relative to observer)/(distance between light pulses) https://youtube.com/watch?v=bg7O4rtlwEE > > (frequency at observer) varies with speed of observer - Doppler effect. > > (speed of light relative to observer) varies proportionally (end of Einstein). > > Protective stupidity: > > George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." > > Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev Anyone wanting this refutation of relativity fully elucidated by a highly accomplished and credentialed scholar and mathematician should read "Light Velocity and Relativity by Arthur Otis c. 1963.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-07 12:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kjcokkF6lukU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #617020 |
On 8/7/2023 12:35 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 1:51:01 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote: >> (frequency at observer) = (speed of light relative to observer)/(distance between light pulses) https://youtube.com/watch?v=bg7O4rtlwEE >> >> (frequency at observer) varies with speed of observer - Doppler effect. >> >> (speed of light relative to observer) varies proportionally (end of Einstein). >> >> Protective stupidity: >> >> George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." >> >> Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev > Anyone wanting this refutation of relativity fully elucidated by a highly accomplished and credentialed scholar and mathematician should read "Light Velocity and Relativity by Arthur Otis c. 1963. Yes, after all, there isn't anything better than your idols.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 00:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <64D1EA84.108E@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #616973 |
Pentcho Valev wrote: > > (frequency at observer) = (speed of light relative to observer)/(distance between light pulses) https://youtube.com/watch?v=bg7O4rtlwEE > > (frequency at observer) varies with speed of observer - Doppler effect. > > (speed of light relative to observer) varies proportionally (end of Einstein). > > Protective stupidity: > > George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." > > Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev I see people writing Variable Speed of Light everywhere, but i don't see anyone writing here the short version of it...(VSL). Learn grasshopper. The VSL varied since the big bang and even before dat. all numbers that are set today were varied in the past. Even colors varied. At the beginning of the big bang the first color was Red. Then Green...then blue. Before the big bang it was Greem. Blue was the first color before the big bang. After the big bang things got red hot. The VSL changes from the beginning of the big bang till it slowed down to a steady number...and increases in other parts of the universe. It's VSL. Now, Question...What is the speed of light? is it 300,000 km per second, or is it 186,000 miles per second???? It varies, doesn't it? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-10 10:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <64D52105.2184@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #617087 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > > > (frequency at observer) = (speed of light relative to observer)/(distance between light pulses) https://youtube.com/watch?v=bg7O4rtlwEE > > > > (frequency at observer) varies with speed of observer - Doppler effect. > > > > (speed of light relative to observer) varies proportionally (end of Einstein). > > > > Protective stupidity: > > > > George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." > > > > Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev > > I see people writing Variable Speed of Light everywhere, but i don't see anyone writing here the short version of it...(VSL). > > Learn grasshopper. > > The VSL varied since the big bang and even before dat. all numbers that are set today were varied in the past. > > Even colors varied. > > At the beginning of the big bang the first color was Red. Then Green...then blue. Before the big bang it was Greem. > > Blue was the first color before the big bang. After the big bang things got red hot. > > The VSL changes from the beginning of the big bang till it slowed down to a steady number...and > increases in other parts of the universe. > > It's VSL. > > Now, Question...What is the speed of light? is it 300,000 km per second, or is it 186,000 miles per second???? It varies, doesn't it? > > In other words, if you're using today's speed of light to measure the age of the universe... when in fact the speed of light was billions (if not trillions) times faster at the bebinning of the big bang, then the age of the universe today has been calculated ...WRONG! Not only dat but the speed of light is...slowing down, Sir! VSL Look up at the night sky. You see dat big dipper? Dats the center of the universe. It's like looking at the first page on Google. No matter what keyword you use in Google search, you will always get the first page. Why would you want to look at the last page? What will dat get you?? nothing. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-10 10:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <64D523C1.61C3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #617292 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > > > > > (frequency at observer) = (speed of light relative to observer)/(distance between light pulses) https://youtube.com/watch?v=bg7O4rtlwEE > > > > > > (frequency at observer) varies with speed of observer - Doppler effect. > > > > > > (speed of light relative to observer) varies proportionally (end of Einstein). > > > > > > Protective stupidity: > > > > > > George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." > > > > > > Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev > > > > I see people writing Variable Speed of Light everywhere, but i don't see anyone writing here the short version of it...(VSL). > > > > Learn grasshopper. > > > > The VSL varied since the big bang and even before dat. all numbers that are set today were varied in the past. > > > > Even colors varied. > > > > At the beginning of the big bang the first color was Red. Then Green...then blue. Before the big bang it was Greem. > > > > Blue was the first color before the big bang. After the big bang things got red hot. > > > > The VSL changes from the beginning of the big bang till it slowed down to a steady number...and > > increases in other parts of the universe. > > > > It's VSL. > > > > Now, Question...What is the speed of light? is it 300,000 km per second, or is it 186,000 miles per second???? It varies, doesn't it? > > > > > > In other words, if you're using today's speed of light to measure the age of the universe... > > when in fact the speed of light was billions (if not trillions) times faster at the bebinning of the big bang, then > the age of the universe today has been calculated ...WRONG! > > Not only dat but the speed of light is...slowing down, Sir! > > VSL > > Look up at the night sky. > You see dat big dipper? > Dats the center of the universe. > > It's like looking at the first page on Google. > > No matter what keyword you use in Google search, you will always get the first page. > > Why would you want to look at the last page? What will dat get you?? nothing. > Red-Shift?? Are you kidding me? Yous actually measure the universe by a red-shift? 'the speed of light is...slowing down, Sir!' -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-08 11:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d5c4b752-b16c-4995-a8f3-cd394919df32n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616973 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 1:51:01 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote: > (frequency at observer) = (speed of light relative to observer)/(distance between light pulses) https://youtube.com/watch?v=bg7O4rtlwEE > > (frequency at observer) varies with speed of observer - Doppler effect. > > (speed of light relative to observer) varies proportionally (end of Einstein). > > Protective stupidity: > > George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." > > Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev I predict we will measure light accelerating in the future. I will be shown to be right over an increasing speed. How old is our astronomy?
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-08-09 11:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f50a4597-f0c7-4a1b-8dcd-b3500c7f0d33n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #616973 |
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 1:51:01 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote: > (frequency at observer) = (speed of light relative to observer)/(distance between light pulses) https://youtube.com/watch?v=bg7O4rtlwEE > > (frequency at observer) varies with speed of observer - Doppler effect. > > (speed of light relative to observer) varies proportionally (end of Einstein). > > Protective stupidity: > > George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." > > Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev "In order to officially abandon an established scientific theory for being deemed invalid, the concerned scientific authorities must issue in consent a well-documented statement declaring such desertion with tangible justifications. Ironically, refutation of the Special Relativity cannot possibly be emanated from the physics community. The reason is that a physicist’s mind is formed to take established physics theories, especially Relativity, for granted. Physicists are systematically educated and brainwashed to the point that this theory becomes an unquestionable, blindly followed belief. They are so unreasonably convinced about the correctness and validity of the “proven” theory, they are appalled at the idea of questioning it, even at considering any challenging ideas or doubtful views; Relativity has been brought for them to the level of a religion!" - Radwan M. Kassir - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mathematical-conflicts-special-theory-relativity-radwan-m-kassir/
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