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| Started by | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-07-06 11:05 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-07-07 20:50 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 152 — 28 participants |
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A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:05 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:09 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:14 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:17 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:32 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 11:51 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 12:19 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-07 15:26 +1000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 01:14 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 09:33 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-07 14:57 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 13:33 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:30 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-07 16:34 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:51 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-07 16:52 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:57 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-07 17:04 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-07 16:31 +0300
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:02 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 12:09 +1000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Lou <noelturntive@live.co.uk> - 2023-07-08 01:15 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 21:45 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 12:47 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 12:48 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 13:16 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 13:17 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-06 15:17 -0500
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 13:32 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-06 16:03 -0500
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 13:37 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-06 16:06 -0500
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 11:59 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-06 23:07 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 14:46 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-06 21:07 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 20:11 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-07 10:14 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 01:40 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 10:57 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-07 22:12 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 12:43 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Kalaki Kalacos <oiis@nnnhgsoi.nd> - 2023-07-07 17:55 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:16 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 12:28 +1000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:10 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:15 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-09 11:59 +0300
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-07-09 15:09 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 18:15 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-07 22:13 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 14:22 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Duston Pantelakos <eats@sonknkdt.tt> - 2023-07-07 21:15 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 20:20 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 13:45 +1000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-06 22:54 -0500
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 20:59 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 01:16 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 21:13 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-07 10:10 -0500
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 09:28 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:09 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 18:30 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 18:33 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-08 03:16 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:08 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-08 03:33 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 09:31 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 00:45 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-08 09:49 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-07 18:49 -0500
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-07 12:20 +0300
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 02:24 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:00 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-07 17:37 +0300
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 07:53 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:05 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-08 11:52 +0300
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 12:50 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 09:51 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 23:55 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:07 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:37 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:42 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:45 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 22:00 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:33 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-08 16:07 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:10 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-08 16:59 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 22:31 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:30 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:28 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 12:42 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:02 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-08 18:54 -0500
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-09 11:58 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-09 14:15 -0500
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:13 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 19:29 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:19 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Norge Brisimitzakis <niig@tbirsnii.ie> - 2023-07-07 18:31 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:36 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 19:06 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 13:16 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 20:47 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 13:50 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> - 2023-07-07 21:12 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 09:26 +0200
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:17 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 17:40 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-07 18:51 -0500
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mervin Paraskevopoulos <eepk@aupoavsa.sl> - 2023-07-07 18:19 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 17:28 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Bertin Lolos <rblb@ltinllrt.ot> - 2023-07-07 21:53 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-07 23:46 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Nolberto Eliopoulos <looo@btoloene.pb> - 2023-07-08 19:29 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-07-08 12:58 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Bondie Antonopoulos <oebo@niononud.te> - 2023-07-08 20:36 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-07-08 15:32 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Michaes Egonidis <esnh@soddssei.si> - 2023-07-08 23:10 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-09 13:59 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-07-09 11:05 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Jeff Egonidis <noig@iegoiiio.nf> - 2023-07-09 18:20 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-06 14:56 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-07-07 11:06 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:22 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-07-07 14:28 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Deangelo Sfakianos <enoe@adaonlnd.eo> - 2023-07-07 19:28 +0000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 20:28 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 13:50 +1000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 20:52 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-08 14:56 +1000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:32 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-09 10:48 +1000
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Bill <davos2329@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 19:16 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-07-09 12:04 +0300
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-08 00:04 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 21:15 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:24 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-09 13:32 -0400
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 13:15 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 15:03 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 21:20 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 22:13 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 22:47 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 22:59 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 23:13 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 23:37 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 23:39 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 23:47 -0700
Re: A sniper bullet trajectory & relativity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 20:50 -0700
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 11:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3ee7c8a4-d6f8-4d75-8409-91a239414bf5n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #614649 |
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 10:29:50 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > On 2023-07-07 16:50:44 +0000, Volney said: > > > On 7/7/2023 10:00 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > >> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 6:07:16 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > >>> On 7/6/2023 5:46 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > >>>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 2:07:56 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >>>>> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> A long-distance shot by a sniper (shooting from a train) must take into > >>>>>> account wind. If the trajectory of the bullet shows the lack of any wind, > >>>>>> it does not show the bullet does not share the velocity of the source. It > >>>>>> does not show the bullet velocity is independent of the source. It does > >>>>>> not confirm the constancy or invariance of the bullet's speed. It still > >>>>>> shares the velocity of the source. Therefore, the MMX did not prove the > >>>>>> constancy of the speed of light. > >>>>> Of course it didn't. > >>>>> Why kick down this open door once again? > >>>>> (and worse, with faulty arguments) > >>>>> > >>>>> Jan > >>>> Because Einstein and many relativists continue to claim the MMX proved > >>>> the constancy of light speed when that is obviously a stupid > >>>> conflation. It did not provide any evidence for it at all. > > > >>> Einstein never claimed the speed of light was constant because of the > >>> MMX. He stated the speed of light may be constant simply because that's > >>> what all the experimental results stated. > >>> > >>> (why do the anti-relativity cranks have to make up false reasons for > >>> belief in a constant speed of light?) > > > >> I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in > >> criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev > > > > Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity > > crackpot ever to darken this newsgroup. > Maybe, but there is quite a lot of competition for that title! > > I already told you this. Half of his references don't claim what > > Pentcho claims, the rest are cranks just as nutty as he is. > The important thing to realize about Pentcho Valev is not just that > he's nutty and a crank, but he's also a liar. He quote-mines and finds > something that he thinks will fool us into thinking it supports his > position, and posts it wthut paying any attention to the qualifications > and explanations the author made. > > > > <snip rest, unread> > > > -- > Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly > in England until 1987. Pentcho does well at getting the words out of the relativists own mouths. His critique is basically correct. Light shares the velocity of the source. Period.
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| From | Norge Brisimitzakis <niig@tbirsnii.ie> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 18:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <u89ll7$3deo7$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #614661 |
Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > Pentcho does well at getting the words out of the relativists own > mouths. > His critique is basically correct. Light shares the velocity of the > source. Period. fine, prove it. because the cluster bombs, delivered by the fucking corrupt america, Russia should attack the US at their home soil with nuclear weapons. That would put an end to their thirst for war far from their coasts. These fucking immigrants gringo are chemically intoxicated. They are inbreed criminals and idiots. but the bidona is doing it to cover over his crimes, and crimes against humanity. Just remember those about 45 bio_weapons labs in fucking nazi ukraine. Plus the GMO agriculture etc. With those GMO they destroyed the entire europe, People are eating now GMO without knowing it. https://%72t.com/news/579342-germany-cluster-munitions-ukraine/
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 11:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ba15e43a-7769-4ef7-a96d-3b745607fed4n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #614661 |
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 10:29:50 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > On 2023-07-07 16:50:44 +0000, Volney said: > > > > > On 7/7/2023 10:00 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > >> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 6:07:16 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > > >>> On 7/6/2023 5:46 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > >>>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 2:07:56 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > >>>>> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> A long-distance shot by a sniper (shooting from a train) must take into > > >>>>>> account wind. If the trajectory of the bullet shows the lack of any wind, > > >>>>>> it does not show the bullet does not share the velocity of the source. It > > >>>>>> does not show the bullet velocity is independent of the source. It does > > >>>>>> not confirm the constancy or invariance of the bullet's speed. It still > > >>>>>> shares the velocity of the source. Therefore, the MMX did not prove the > > >>>>>> constancy of the speed of light. > > >>>>> Of course it didn't. > > >>>>> Why kick down this open door once again? > > >>>>> (and worse, with faulty arguments) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Jan > > >>>> Because Einstein and many relativists continue to claim the MMX proved > > >>>> the constancy of light speed when that is obviously a stupid > > >>>> conflation. It did not provide any evidence for it at all. > > > > > >>> Einstein never claimed the speed of light was constant because of the > > >>> MMX. He stated the speed of light may be constant simply because that's > > >>> what all the experimental results stated. > > >>> > > >>> (why do the anti-relativity cranks have to make up false reasons for > > >>> belief in a constant speed of light?) > > > > > >> I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in > > >> criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev > > > > > > Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity > > > crackpot ever to darken this newsgroup. > > Maybe, but there is quite a lot of competition for that title! > > > I already told you this. Half of his references don't claim what > > > Pentcho claims, the rest are cranks just as nutty as he is. > > The important thing to realize about Pentcho Valev is not just that > > he's nutty and a crank, but he's also a liar. He quote-mines and finds > > something that he thinks will fool us into thinking it supports his > > position, and posts it wthut paying any attention to the qualifications > > and explanations the author made. > > > > > > <snip rest, unread> > > > > > > -- > > Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly > > in England until 1987. > Pentcho does well at getting the words out of the relativists own mouths. His critique is basically correct. Light shares the velocity of the source. Period. If light does not share the velocity of the source all that is needed is ordinary negative additive velocity equation: sqrt of V^2 - v^2. Many critics of relativity have singled out one part and shown it is not necessary without realizing all of it is.
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 19:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <NKX7B-Lu74JCK9XSKxwT45310bw@jntp> |
| In reply to | #614667 |
Le 07/07/2023 à 20:36, Laurence Clark Crossen a écrit : > If light does not share the velocity of the source all that is needed is > ordinary negative additive velocity equation: sqrt of V^2 - v^2. Many critics of > relativity have singled out one part and shown it is not necessary without > realizing all of it is. With regard to relativistic velocities and their additions: why not believe Dr. Hachel? This is what I find incomprehensible. Can physicists contradict him? No. None have ever done so. Should the cranks care, since he offers an alternative to their critics. But no. None do either. For what? <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?NKX7B-Lu74JCK9XSKxwT45310bw@jntp/Data.Media:1> <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?NKX7B-Lu74JCK9XSKxwT45310bw@jntp/Data.Media:2> R.H.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 13:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a5594c0c-36c5-4fba-9232-b9f59bb585c0n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #614670 |
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 12:06:07 PM UTC-7, Richard Hachel wrote: > Le 07/07/2023 à 20:36, Laurence Clark Crossen a écrit : > > > If light does not share the velocity of the source all that is needed is > > ordinary negative additive velocity equation: sqrt of V^2 - v^2. Many critics of > > relativity have singled out one part and shown it is not necessary without > > realizing all of it is. > With regard to relativistic velocities and their additions: why not > believe Dr. Hachel? > > This is what I find incomprehensible. > > Can physicists contradict him? No. None have ever done so. > > Should the cranks care, since he offers an alternative to their critics. > But no. None do either. > > For what? > > <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?NKX7B-Lu74JCK9XSKxwT45310bw@jntp/Data.Media:1> > > <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?NKX7B-Lu74JCK9XSKxwT45310bw@jntp/Data.Media:2> > > R.H. The same equations pertain to all velocities. There is no such thing as relativistic velocities.
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 20:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hed7eSKP4X6NhoMVZXmIIMK_jvY@jntp> |
| In reply to | #614677 |
Le 07/07/2023 à 22:16, Laurence Clark Crossen a écrit : >> <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?NKX7B-Lu74JCK9XSKxwT45310bw@jntp/Data.Media:1> > The same equations pertain to all velocities. There is no such thing as > relativistic velocities. That is what I am saying. The same equation holds for all speeds and for all angles. Whether the speeds are 5m/s or 180,000 km/s. Let the angles be from 0° to 360°. This is the beauty of the general velocity addition equation. It is universal. R.H.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 13:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10b1fd9b-323c-4ea6-9850-c9076f9c82b5n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #614678 |
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 1:47:14 PM UTC-7, Richard Hachel wrote: > Le 07/07/2023 à 22:16, Laurence Clark Crossen a écrit : > > >> <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?NKX7B-Lu74JCK9XSKxwT45310bw@jntp/Data.Media:1> > > The same equations pertain to all velocities. There is no such thing as > > relativistic velocities. > That is what I am saying. > > The same equation holds for all speeds and for all angles. > > Whether the speeds are 5m/s or 180,000 km/s. > > Let the angles be from 0° to 360°. > > This is the beauty of the general velocity addition equation. > > It is universal. > > R.H. Whatever your "general velocity addition equation" is, nothing is needed but the ordinary additive velocity equation: sqrt V^2 +- v^2.
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapou.net> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 21:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <YHxI9Uzt0iC-vpXw7NG5VsYxS8I@jntp> |
| In reply to | #614679 |
Le 07/07/2023 à 22:50, Laurence Clark Crossen a écrit : > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 1:47:14 PM UTC-7, Richard Hachel wrote: >> Le 07/07/2023 à 22:16, Laurence Clark Crossen a écrit : >> >> >> <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?NKX7B-Lu74JCK9XSKxwT45310bw@jntp/Data.Media:1> >> > The same equations pertain to all velocities. There is no such thing as >> > relativistic velocities. >> That is what I am saying. >> >> The same equation holds for all speeds and for all angles. >> >> Whether the speeds are 5m/s or 180,000 km/s. >> >> Let the angles be from 0° to 360°. >> >> This is the beauty of the general velocity addition equation. >> >> It is universal. >> >> R.H. > Whatever your "general velocity addition equation" is, nothing is needed but the > ordinary additive velocity equation: sqrt V^2 +- v^2. Notice, it's not dumb. This way, it will be very simple and very practical. w=v+u Effectively. I did not think about it. Thanks for your comment, I'll try to fix it. R.H. -- <http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=YHxI9Uzt0iC-vpXw7NG5VsYxS8I@jntp>
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-07-08 09:26 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <kgshcqF5b9rU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #614670 |
On 2023-07-07 19:06:04 +0000, Richard Hachel said: > Le 07/07/2023 à 20:36, Laurence Clark Crossen a écrit : > >> If light does not share the velocity of the source all that is needed >> is ordinary negative additive velocity equation: sqrt of V^2 - v^2. >> Many critics of relativity have singled out one part and shown it is >> not necessary without realizing all of it is. > > With regard to relativistic velocities and their additions: why not > believe Dr. Hachel "Dr." Hachel? You've been coy about where you did your 22 years of teaching and in what capacity, but maybe now you can tell us where you got your doctorate and what the title of your thesis was? There are certainly people here with real doctorates in physics (Jan Lodder and Sylvia Else seem likely candidates, amongst others), but who don't boast about them. I'll only be willing to call you "Dr." Hachel if you answer the simple question. As to your own question (why not believe "Dr." Hachel?) the answer is simple: because "Dr." Hachel has made it abundantly clear that he has a severe case of Dunning-Kruger syndrome. -- athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 11:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <32f48ab8-039a-4d0e-8ca6-6f844229bc66n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #614644 |
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:50:46 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > On 7/7/2023 10:00 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 6:07:16 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: > >> On 7/6/2023 5:46 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > >>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 2:07:56 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >>>> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> A long-distance shot by a sniper (shooting from a train) must take into > >>>>> account wind. If the trajectory of the bullet shows the lack of any wind, > >>>>> it does not show the bullet does not share the velocity of the source. It > >>>>> does not show the bullet velocity is independent of the source. It does > >>>>> not confirm the constancy or invariance of the bullet's speed. It still > >>>>> shares the velocity of the source. Therefore, the MMX did not prove the > >>>>> constancy of the speed of light. > >>>> Of course it didn't. > >>>> Why kick down this open door once again? > >>>> (and worse, with faulty arguments) > >>>> > >>>> Jan > >>> Because Einstein and many relativists continue to claim the MMX proved the constancy of light speed when that is obviously a stupid conflation. It did not provide any evidence for it at all. > > >> Einstein never claimed the speed of light was constant because of the > >> MMX. He stated the speed of light may be constant simply because that's > >> what all the experimental results stated. > >> > >> (why do the anti-relativity cranks have to make up false reasons for > >> belief in a constant speed of light?) > > > I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev > Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity crackpot > ever to darken this newsgroup. I already told you this. Half of his > references don't claim what Pentcho claims, the rest are cranks just as > nutty as he is. > > <snip rest, unread> Actually, Pentcho Valev gets to the bottom of it better than most. If you can't address the specific quote without ad hominem you lose.
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 17:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <u8a0or$1eotm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #614659 |
On 7/7/2023 2:17 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 9:50:46 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote: >> On 7/7/2023 10:00 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >>> I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev >> Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity crackpot >> ever to darken this newsgroup. I already told you this. Half of his >> references don't claim what Pentcho claims, the rest are cranks just as >> nutty as he is. >> >> <snip rest, unread> > Actually, Pentcho Valev gets to the bottom of it better than most. If you can't address the specific quote without ad hominem you lose. As I stated, much of what Pentcho references doesn't say what he claims it says. He quotemines. Nor does he listen to anyone who tries to correct him (which goes for nearly all cranks here but that's besides the point). I killfiled Pentcho long ago, and I'm not about to unkillfile him just to find his latest mistruths and quotemines just for you. You can do that yourself.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 18:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kgrmooF1b5eU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #614659 |
On 7/7/2023 1:17 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: <...> > If you can't address the specific quote without ad hominem you lose. Since this "rule" applies to you as well just where do you think you stand?
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| From | Mervin Paraskevopoulos <eepk@aupoavsa.sl> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 18:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <u89kv9$3dcf6$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #614644 |
Volney wrote: >> I don't have my primary source handy because I'm not very interested in >> criticizin Einstein, but, thanks to Pentcho Valev > > Stop right there. Pentcho is just about the nuttiest relativity crackpot > ever to darken this newsgroup. I already told you this. Half of his > references don't claim what Pentcho claims, the rest are cranks just as > nutty as he is. <snip rest, unread> the capitalist america is delivering without shame, *_cluster_munition_*, forbidden in over 120 countries, *_to_the_nazi_ukraine_*. You fucking stoopid. So much for western "rules based order", they're ready to sell their children's souls to the Devil just to "stick it to Putin" 😂 Russia needs to start nuking the globalist bastards already. Baerbock and the party she represents are the most corrupt and the biggest liars in the history of German politics. They are guilty of nepotism, and once in power, have betrayed their constituencies by performing a 180 degree turn in favor of war, the USA, large corporations, and the rich elites. She and her party are the bullhorn of US oligarchs and Blackrock. Don't be fooled by such despicable character. If she shows any common sense or decency, it only means she's going to be twice as evil next time. Baerbock was howling with the wolves, and now....gets bitten in the hinterkuschen. Western values again in action..... LOL Even the Greenie nazi is having hesitations hey ? Slight progress... https://%72t.com/news/579342-germany-cluster-munitions-ukraine/
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 17:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <u8a02r$1eo9q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #614660 |
On 7/7/2023 2:19 PM, Mervin Paraskevopoulos wrote: > the capitalist america is delivering without shame, *_cluster_munition_*, > forbidden in over 120 countries, But Nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 isn't one of them! In fact, nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 has *already* used cluster munitions in Ukraine, which is why the US delivering them to Ukraine isn't an escalation. > So much for western "rules based order", they're ready to sell their > children's souls to the Devil just to "stick it to Putin" 😂 On the one hand, such things really should be banned. On the other hand, 卐Putler卐 and Nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 have already scattered cluster munitions and zillions of mines (including butterfly mines) all over Ukraine. Ukraine will spend years cleaning up mines and UXO once the evil 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 gets expelled from Ukraine. > > Russia needs to start nuking the globalist bastards already. And 30 minutes later, no more 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐!
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| From | Bertin Lolos <rblb@ltinllrt.ot> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 21:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <u8a1gs$3ef9k$2@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #614688 |
Volney wrote: > On 7/7/2023 2:19 PM, Mervin Paraskevopoulos wrote: > >> the capitalist america is delivering without shame, >> *_cluster_munition_*, >> forbidden in over 120 countries, > > But Nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 isn't one of them! In fact, nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia shut up, fool. You don't know what a nazi is. It's not concentration camps with swimming pools, theater, chocolate and sport activities. Don't be that idiot this time. You fucking braidead mollusc. >> So much for western "rules based order", they're ready to sell their >> children's souls to the Devil just to "stick it to Putin" 😂 > On the one hand, such things really should be banned. On the other hand, >> Russia needs to start nuking the globalist bastards already.
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-07-07 23:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <u8am6h$1ks4t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #614692 |
On 7/7/2023 5:53 PM, Bertin Lolos wrote: > Volney wrote: > >> On 7/7/2023 2:19 PM, Mervin Paraskevopoulos wrote: >> >>> the capitalist america is delivering without shame, >>> *_cluster_munition_*, >>> forbidden in over 120 countries, >> >> But Nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 isn't one of them! In fact, nazified 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia > > shut up, fool. You don't know what a nazi is. I do know there's a whole bunch of Nazis in the 卐Kremlin卐 right now. I also know the best way to "denazify" Ukraine is for their Fuhrer, one 卐Владольф Путлер卐, to withdraw all his troops to the 1994 borders which Russia agreed to.
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| From | Nolberto Eliopoulos <looo@btoloene.pb> |
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| Date | 2023-07-08 19:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <u8cdfj$3ra7v$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #614721 |
Volney wrote: >>>> the capitalist america is delivering without shame, >>>> *_cluster_munition_*, forbidden in over 120 countries, >>> B̶u̶t̶ N̶a̶zi̶f̶i̶e̶d̶ 卐R̶u̶⚡︎⚡︎i̶a̶卐 i̶s̶n̶'t̶ o̶n̶e̶ o̶f̶ t̶h̶e̶m̶! I̶n̶ f̶a̶c̶t̶, n̶a̶zi̶f̶i̶e̶d̶ 卐 R̶u̶⚡︎⚡︎i̶a̶ >> shut up, fool. You don't know what a nazi is. > > I̶ d̶o̶ k̶n̶o̶w̶ t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶'s̶ a̶ w̶h̶o̶l̶e̶ b̶u̶n̶c̶h̶ o̶f̶ N̶a̶zi̶s̶ i̶n̶ t̶h̶e̶ 卐K̶r̶e̶m̶l̶i̶n̶卐 r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ n̶o̶w̶. > I̶ a̶l̶s̶o̶ k̶n̶o̶w̶ t̶h̶e̶ b̶e̶s̶t̶ w̶a̶y̶ t̶o̶ "d̶e̶n̶a̶zi̶f̶y̶" U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶e̶ i̶s̶ f̶o̶r̶ t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ F̶u̶h̶r̶e̶r̶, o̶n̶e̶ > 卐Владольф Путлер卐, t̶o̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶d̶r̶a̶w̶ a̶l̶l̶ h̶i̶s̶ t̶r̶o̶o̶p̶s̶ t̶o̶ t̶h̶e̶ 1994 b̶o̶r̶d̶e̶r̶s̶ w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ > R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶ a̶g̶r̶e̶e̶d̶ t̶o̶. the fucking nazi ukraine is not a country, idiot. It can't agree or disagree in anything. It got partial self_dependence 1994 under special condition, they violated. You fucking immigrant of america. You have nothing to do in ukraine, europe and everywhere. You'll soon be kicked out of all countries you occupied. Fuck off. You are a *_terrorist_country_*.
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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
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| Date | 2023-07-08 12:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <inronj-2sc01.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> |
| In reply to | #614783 |
In sci.physics Nolberto Eliopoulos <looo@btoloene.pb> wrote: > Volney wrote: > >>>>> the capitalist america is delivering without shame, >>>>> *_cluster_munition_*, forbidden in over 120 countries, >>>> B̶u̶t̶ N̶a̶zi̶f̶i̶e̶d̶ 卐R̶u̶⚡︎⚡︎i̶a̶卐 i̶s̶n̶'t̶ o̶n̶e̶ o̶f̶ t̶h̶e̶m̶! I̶n̶ f̶a̶c̶t̶, n̶a̶zi̶f̶i̶e̶d̶ 卐 > R̶u̶⚡︎⚡︎i̶a̶ >>> shut up, fool. You don't know what a nazi is. >> >> I̶ d̶o̶ k̶n̶o̶w̶ t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶'s̶ a̶ w̶h̶o̶l̶e̶ b̶u̶n̶c̶h̶ o̶f̶ N̶a̶zi̶s̶ i̶n̶ t̶h̶e̶ 卐K̶r̶e̶m̶l̶i̶n̶卐 r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ n̶o̶w̶. >> I̶ a̶l̶s̶o̶ k̶n̶o̶w̶ t̶h̶e̶ b̶e̶s̶t̶ w̶a̶y̶ t̶o̶ "d̶e̶n̶a̶zi̶f̶y̶" U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶e̶ i̶s̶ f̶o̶r̶ t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ F̶u̶h̶r̶e̶r̶, o̶n̶e̶ >> 卐Владольф Путлер卐, t̶o̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶d̶r̶a̶w̶ a̶l̶l̶ h̶i̶s̶ t̶r̶o̶o̶p̶s̶ t̶o̶ t̶h̶e̶ 1994 b̶o̶r̶d̶e̶r̶s̶ w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ >> R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶ a̶g̶r̶e̶e̶d̶ t̶o̶. > > the fucking nazi ukraine is not a country, idiot. It can't agree or > disagree in anything. It got partial self_dependence 1994 under special > condition, they violated. You fucking immigrant of america. You have > nothing to do in ukraine, europe and everywhere. You'll soon be kicked out > of all countries you occupied. Fuck off. You are a *_terrorist_country_*. Kiev founded 482. Moscow founded 1142. First Russian conquest of Ukraine 1654. Russia has ALWAYS been an asshole, imperialistic, warmonger.
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| From | Bondie Antonopoulos <oebo@niononud.te> |
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| Date | 2023-07-08 20:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <u8chca$3ra60$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #614787 |
Jim Pennino wrote: >> the fucking nazi ukraine is not a country, idiot. It can't agree or >> disagree in anything. It got partial self_dependence 1994 under special >> condition, they violated. You fucking immigrant of america. You have >> nothing to do in ukraine, europe and everywhere. You'll soon be kicked >> out of all countries you occupied. Fuck off. You are a >> *_terrorist_country_*. > > Kiev founded 482. Moscow founded 1142. > First Russian conquest of Ukraine 1654. kiev and "ukraine" are Russian, you fucking imbecile. Read wikipedia. About 87% of ukraine is Russian population Christians. The khazars of vest want to steal a country of Russians enslaving them. Enslaved to the khazar nazis since before 2014. A few khazars walking in north, decolorates their skin pigments and now they they are "arians". You stupid uneducated piece of shit.
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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
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| Date | 2023-07-08 15:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cp4pnj-06j01.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> |
| In reply to | #614793 |
In sci.physics Bondie Antonopoulos <oebo@niononud.te> wrote: > Jim Pennino wrote: > >>> the fucking nazi ukraine is not a country, idiot. It can't agree or >>> disagree in anything. It got partial self_dependence 1994 under special >>> condition, they violated. You fucking immigrant of america. You have >>> nothing to do in ukraine, europe and everywhere. You'll soon be kicked >>> out of all countries you occupied. Fuck off. You are a >>> *_terrorist_country_*. >> >> Kiev founded 482. Moscow founded 1142. >> First Russian conquest of Ukraine 1654. > > kiev and "ukraine" are Russian, you fucking imbecile. Read wikipedia. > About 87% of ukraine is Russian population Christians. Thanks to the Russian conquest of the Ukraine in 1654.
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