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How do you tell who's telling the truth?

Started byLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
First post2023-06-26 12:45 -0700
Last post2023-07-03 12:27 -0700
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  How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-26 12:45 -0700
    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 09:05 -0700
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 09:39 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 11:26 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 11:50 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-28 17:55 -0500
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-28 23:04 +0000
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 16:15 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-28 18:51 -0500
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 17:54 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 09:06 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 12:58 -0500
                      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 11:39 -0700
                        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 14:21 -0500
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 16:20 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 16:27 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 09:25 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 11:28 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 13:52 -0500
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:06 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:19 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 16:47 -0500
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:38 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 16:46 -0500
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 21:17 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:22 -0700
    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 10:52 -0700
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 13:51 -0500
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 12:07 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 12:15 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 17:49 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:12 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:20 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:38 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 22:51 -0500
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:55 -0700
                      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 04:24 -0500
                        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:11 -0700
                          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 13:22 -0500
                            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:34 -0700
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:56 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:59 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:00 -0700
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 14:25 -0500
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 00:33 -0400
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 21:42 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Barry Schenck <ccsc@ebrrccrh.bc> - 2023-07-02 12:30 +0000
                          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:40 -0700
                            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:00 -0700
                            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 14:39 -0500
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:53 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 13:07 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:03 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 22:48 -0500
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:51 +0200
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:53 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:01 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:04 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:05 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:52 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:01 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:30 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:29 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-07-03 13:31 +0200
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 09:47 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-07-05 08:31 +0200
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Stoney Karkampasis <ttas@opiariam.ka> - 2023-07-05 18:00 +0000
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-03 11:10 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-03 11:11 -0700
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:48 +0200
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 03:01 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 12:55 +0200
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 04:26 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 23:12 -0400
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 20:13 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 23:24 -0400
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Hassell Chrysanthopoulos <rhss@lypnahhu.yh> - 2023-07-03 09:38 +0000
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-03 14:28 -0400
                      Re: How do you tell who Selvin Pappayiorgas <aasi@igesepap.on> - 2023-07-03 19:50 +0000
                    Re: How do you tell who's Barney Papadelias <bldb@yayaasnr.ia> - 2023-07-03 19:28 +0000
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 22:26 -0500
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 21:02 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 21:27 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 21:47 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 20:59 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-03 14:34 -0400
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 12:23 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-02 12:28 +0200
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 09:32 -0500
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 08:15 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:39 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:51 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 11:23 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 13:21 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 13:28 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 14:47 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 14:47 -0700
                  Off the Rails (was Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth?) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 17:01 -0500
    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 20:47 +0200
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-03 21:01 +0200
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@wanadou.fr> - 2023-07-03 19:06 +0000
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-03 21:09 +0200
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 12:27 -0700

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#614215

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 12:01 -0700
Message-ID<4b2e19f5-a465-4fc9-a354-c6d912beade1n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614210
On Saturday, 1 July 2023 at 20:52:20 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 10:05:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:53:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:49:18 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > > > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. 
> > > > > Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I do believe that you are full of shit. Evidence rules... got any? 
> > > 
> > > > AGW and Marxism (vis Gender ideology) are pseudosciences functioning as ideologies. Please refer to Tony Heller's YouTube videos on NASA's fraudulent data manipulation. They fill fictitious temperature data in areas of the globe without temperature stations. 
> > > So you claim. It is Tony Heller who is doing the data manipulation, not NASA. 
> > > 
> > > Here is the media bias report concerning Tony Heller's realclimatescience.com site... 
> > > 
> > > https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/real-climate-science/ 
> > > 
> > > "Overall, we rate Real Climate Science a Quackery level pseudoscience website as well as a moderate conspiracy website based on promoting that the solutions for climate change lead to communism. We also rate them Low for factual reporting due to failed fact checks and a complete rejection of the consensus of science regarding human-influenced climate change." 
> > > 
> > > So, got any actual evidence? NO, I didn't think so... 
> 
> > The point is AGW is ideological pseudoscience. So don't you know fact-checkers are ideologues? Are you that naive?
> From Bing AI... 
> 
> "The scientific consensus is that human activity, particularly the burning of fossil fuels, is causing global warming and climate change1. The theory explaining today’s long-term increase in the average temperature of Earth’s atmosphere as an effect of human industry and agriculture is called Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). 
> 
> The term “pseudoscience” refers to a belief or process which masquerades as science in an attempt to claim a legitimacy which it would not otherwise be able to achieve2. The scientific consensus on AGW is based on empirical evidence and rigorous scientific research. Therefore, AGW is not considered pseudoscience." 
> 
> I'm pretty confident that I am not the naive person here... 
> 
> “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” 
> ― Abraham Lincoln

Oh, sure, Al, you can't, and your idiot guru Tom screaming
that we're FORCED - can't too.

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#614217

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 12:30 -0700
Message-ID<e4cb24af-5d66-426d-94e1-6f27329bd25bn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614210
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 11:52:20 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 10:05:40 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:53:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:49:18 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > > > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. 
> > > > > Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I do believe that you are full of shit. Evidence rules... got any? 
> > > 
> > > > AGW and Marxism (vis Gender ideology) are pseudosciences functioning as ideologies. Please refer to Tony Heller's YouTube videos on NASA's fraudulent data manipulation. They fill fictitious temperature data in areas of the globe without temperature stations. 
> > > So you claim. It is Tony Heller who is doing the data manipulation, not NASA. 
> > > 
> > > Here is the media bias report concerning Tony Heller's realclimatescience.com site... 
> > > 
> > > https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/real-climate-science/ 
> > > 
> > > "Overall, we rate Real Climate Science a Quackery level pseudoscience website as well as a moderate conspiracy website based on promoting that the solutions for climate change lead to communism. We also rate them Low for factual reporting due to failed fact checks and a complete rejection of the consensus of science regarding human-influenced climate change." 
> > > 
> > > So, got any actual evidence? NO, I didn't think so... 
> 
> > The point is AGW is ideological pseudoscience. So don't you know fact-checkers are ideologues? Are you that naive?
> From Bing AI... 
> 
> "The scientific consensus is that human activity, particularly the burning of fossil fuels, is causing global warming and climate change1. The theory explaining today’s long-term increase in the average temperature of Earth’s atmosphere as an effect of human industry and agriculture is called Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). 
> 
> The term “pseudoscience” refers to a belief or process which masquerades as science in an attempt to claim a legitimacy which it would not otherwise be able to achieve2. The scientific consensus on AGW is based on empirical evidence and rigorous scientific research. Therefore, AGW is not considered pseudoscience." 
> 
> I'm pretty confident that I am not the naive person here... 
> 
> “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” 
> ― Abraham Lincoln
Relativity does not fool all the people all the time. There have always been many who knew better.

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#614202

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 10:29 -0700
Message-ID<7a6c3b37-f43d-460c-ba5d-918783c8e936n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614197
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:53:31 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:49:18 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. 
> > > Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> > > 
> > > I do believe that you are full of shit. Evidence rules... got any? 
> 
> > AGW and Marxism (vis Gender ideology) are pseudosciences functioning as ideologies. Please refer to Tony Heller's YouTube videos on NASA's fraudulent data manipulation. They fill fictitious temperature data in areas of the globe without temperature stations.
> So you claim. It is Tony Heller who is doing the data manipulation, not NASA. 
> 
> Here is the media bias report concerning Tony Heller's realclimatescience.com site... 
> 
> https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/real-climate-science/ 
> 
> "Overall, we rate Real Climate Science a Quackery level pseudoscience website as well as a moderate conspiracy website based on promoting that the solutions for climate change lead to communism. We also rate them Low for factual reporting due to failed fact checks and a complete rejection of the consensus of science regarding human-influenced climate change." 
> 
> So, got any actual evidence? NO, I didn't think so...

Why does NASA have doctored footage of aliens flying around?
It shows they are a fake..

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#614348

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2023-07-03 13:31 +0200
Message-ID<kgfpshF4h5iU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614162
Am 01.07.2023 um 02:49 schrieb Paul Alsing:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>
>> Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact.
>
> Please present your evidence for this claim.
>

Wasn't 'NASA' the agency, who 'sent men to the Moon' ???

TH

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#614358

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-03 09:47 -0700
Message-ID<cd6390c8-afd8-4274-8198-b7669600aa25n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614348
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:31:33 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 01.07.2023 um 02:49 schrieb Paul Alsing:
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> >> Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. 
> > 
> > Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> >
> Wasn't 'NASA' the agency, who 'sent men to the Moon' ??? 
> 
> TH

NASA also had their insiders that created their Moon hoax. How could
anyone else pull that off over them?

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#614490

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2023-07-05 08:31 +0200
Message-ID<kgkh1lFr197U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614358
Am 03.07.2023 um 18:47 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:31:33 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 01.07.2023 um 02:49 schrieb Paul Alsing:
>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact.
>>>
>>> Please present your evidence for this claim.
>>>
>> Wasn't 'NASA' the agency, who 'sent men to the Moon' ???
>>
>> TH
>
> NASA also had their insiders that created their Moon hoax. How could
> anyone else pull that off over them?
>


If NASA had actually staged something big, then how could you trust them 
in other circumstances?


TH

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#614520

FromStoney Karkampasis <ttas@opiariam.ka>
Date2023-07-05 18:00 +0000
Message-ID<u84b4j$2i5ip$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#614490
Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am 03.07.2023 um 18:47 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
>> NASA also had their insiders that created their Moon hoax. How could
>> anyone else pull that off over them?
> 
> If NASA had actually staged something big, then how could you trust them
> in other circumstances?

hahaha, khazar goy driven america is gonna be fucked up. With proofs. 
Because if not, no country on this planet will do busyness with the 
shithole countries merged into *_the_collective_west_*. 
Go Russia, go go go! Fuck their asses the way you like it.

*_Gazprom_sues_German_banking_giants_*
https://%72t.com/business/579238-gazprom-sues-german-banking-giants/

Deutsche Bank: The same bankster organization that was doing business with 
MOSSAD-CIA black mailer sex trafficker JEFFREY EPSTEIN and had to pay 75 
million dollars to Epstein's victims... But then again I would not count 
too much on german justice system or western justice system to be fair 
with Gazprom respecting contracts..... Now Germans elites are zionist 
neocon ssssssluts to the extreme PARTICULARLY Deutsche Bank .... We call 
them in financial circle ''Douch Bank'''.. Check what it means. With JP 
Morgan it is one of the most bankrupt and corrupt bank in the solar 
system.

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#614364

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-03 11:10 -0700
Message-ID<f51e9ce9-d3e4-468e-b193-a9da02a36aabn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614348
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:31:33 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 01.07.2023 um 02:49 schrieb Paul Alsing:
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> >> Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. 
> > 
> > Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> >
> Wasn't 'NASA' the agency, who 'sent men to the Moon' ??? 
> 
> TH
Fortunately, it funds climate satellites, but it does so by means of the AGW boondoggle.

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#614365

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-03 11:11 -0700
Message-ID<cf5b75e2-501e-4162-b2c5-a0c9a8dc2a32n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614348
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:31:33 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 01.07.2023 um 02:49 schrieb Paul Alsing:
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> >> Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. 
> > 
> > Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> >
> Wasn't 'NASA' the agency, who 'sent men to the Moon' ??? 
> 
> TH
Yes, and they didn't relativity to do it.

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#614252

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 10:48 +0200
Message-ID<kgcruaFl8jcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614145
On 2023-06-30 17:52:17 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:

> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
> A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are lying.B. 
> Relativists censor their opponents.C. Therefore, relativity is a lie.
> Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion group.

Nobody is censoring the crackpots in this discussion group. They can 
say whatever they want, and they do. Pointing out that much of what 
they say is ignorant nonsense is not censorship.

Can you point to a single one of your posts that was "censored"?


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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#614254

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 03:01 -0700
Message-ID<5e2f2cc6-6112-4427-93da-cab96cc61fe1n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614252
On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 10:48:15 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2023-06-30 17:52:17 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: 
> 
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
> > A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are lying.B. 
> > Relativists censor their opponents.C. Therefore, relativity is a lie. 
> > Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion group. 
> 
> Nobody is censoring the crackpots in this discussion group. They can 
> say whatever they want, and they do. 

Sure, they can freely scream that we're FORCED to
their BEST WAY idiocy.

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#614257

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 12:55 +0200
Message-ID<kgd3c5Fmc08U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614254
On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:

> On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 10:48:15 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2023-06-30 17:52:17 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:>> > On 
>> Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen 
>> wrote:> >> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
>>> A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are 
>>> lying.B.> > Relativists censor their opponents.C. Therefore, relativity 
>>> is a lie.> > Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion 
>>> group.>> Nobody is censoring the crackpots in this discussion group. 
>>> They can> say whatever they want, and they do.
> Sure, they can freely scream that we're FORCED to
> their BEST WAY idiocy.

Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have 
the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor?


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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#614259

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 04:26 -0700
Message-ID<ca36f7fc-5e88-4a38-a3df-b84b8125132dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614257
On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 12:55:05 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said: 
> 
> > On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 10:48:15 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
> >> On 2023-06-30 17:52:17 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:>> > On 
> >> Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen 
> >> wrote:> >> The ones trying to silence the others are lying 
> >>> A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are 
> >>> lying.B.> > Relativists censor their opponents.C. Therefore, relativity 
> >>> is a lie.> > Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion 
> >>> group.>> Nobody is censoring the crackpots in this discussion group. 
> >>> They can> say whatever they want, and they do. 
> > Sure, they can freely scream that we're FORCED to 
> > their BEST WAY idiocy.
> Volney calls you Janitor

and insists that adjusting clocks to your ISO idiocy
is putting them into some "Newton mode". Volney
is very, very stupid, even considering relativistic
standards.


>, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have 
> the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor?

Rave and spit, poor halfbrain that's what your 
insane religion has trained you for.

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#614310

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-02 23:12 -0400
Message-ID<u7tea1$3jkdl$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614257
On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:
> 
[]

> Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have 
> the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor?

I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a 
janitor. It appears I was wrong.

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#614311

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 20:13 -0700
Message-ID<b85bd1a8-35d3-4fb6-819d-1dc7f1979902n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614310
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:12:05 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
> > On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said: 
> >
> []
> > Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have 
> > the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor?
> I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a 
> janitor. It appears I was wrong.
Is it just me or does that sound censorious?

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#614314

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-02 23:24 -0400
Message-ID<u7tf20$3jpbm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614311
On 7/2/2023 11:13 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:12:05 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>> On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:
>>>
>> []
>>> Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have
>>> the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor?

>> I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a
>> janitor. It appears I was wrong.

> Is it just me or does that sound censorious?

It's just you.

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#614343

FromHassell Chrysanthopoulos <rhss@lypnahhu.yh>
Date2023-07-03 09:38 +0000
Message-ID<u7u4tr$1k0pd$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#614314
Volney wrote:

> On 7/2/2023 11:13 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a
>>> janitor. It appears I was wrong.
>> Is it just me or does that sound censorious?
> It's just you.

this is so cool. The polakers are fucking badly the women of uKurine. That 
was the whole idea, from the beginning. I was a fool.

*_Exiled_Ukrainian_Politician_Has_Urgent_Message_* for his Compatriots
https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/35ARHJdluwhm

*_Ukrainian_Man_Gives_His_Thoughts_On_True_Culprits_of_the_War_*
https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/i7AJetcxWbsq

*_Ukrainian_Man_Says_100,000_AFU_Died_in_Artemovsk_Bahmut_*
https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/OwWxEpAhLCEu

Exiled Ukrainian Politician Says The 
*_People_Need_to_March_on_Kiev_To_Save_the_Country_*
https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/lhCzf2F91J3g

*_American_Marine_Corps_Veteran_Mercenary_Confirmed_Killed_* in Kramatorsk 
Pizzeria Strike
https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/xT18Re5ZdwqS

*_Ukraine_Update_July_2,_2023_*
https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/ufZ0ssKUvurm

also, khazar gypsy goy zelenske wants uKurine to speak engilsh, not 
russian. ANglo_saxoning his people. This khazar goy is stupid like shit.

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#614374

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-03 14:28 -0400
Message-ID<u7v417$3ou0k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614343
On 7/3/2023 5:38 AM, Hassell Chrysanthopoulos wrote:

> also, khazar gypsy goy zelenske wants uKurine to speak engilsh, not
> russian.

He needs to teach Ukrainian more. Actually the Russians should also be 
teaching Ukrainian in their schools. Isn't the Russian language just a 
corrupted form of Ukrainian?

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#614390 — Re: How do you tell who

FromSelvin Pappayiorgas <aasi@igesepap.on>
Date2023-07-03 19:50 +0000
SubjectRe: How do you tell who
Message-ID<u7v8pv$1nnsg$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#614374
Volney wrote:

> On 7/3/2023 5:38 AM, Hassell Chrysanthopoulos wrote:
> 
>> also, khazar gypsy goy zelenske wants uKurine to speak engilsh, not
>> russian.
> 
> He needs to teach Ukrainian more. Ac̶t̶u̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ t̶h̶e̶ R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ a̶l̶s̶o̶ b̶e̶
> t̶e̶a̶c̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶i̶a̶n̶ i̶n̶ t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ s̶c̶h̶o̶o̶l̶s̶. Isn't the Russian language j̶u̶s̶t̶ a̶
> c̶o̶r̶r̶u̶p̶t̶e̶d̶ f̶o̶r̶m̶ o̶f̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶i̶a̶n̶?

of course not. You just display *_that_fucking_stupid_you_are_*. No brain 
in that fucking corporation country. ran by criminals, anymore. You can't 
even be used *_as_cheap_labour_*. They take latin america and mexicans. 
Want more proof? There are 87% Russians in fucking uKurine. Read 
wikipedia, you fool.

    87.3% Christianity
    11.0% No religion
    0.8% Others
    0.9% Unanswered

> *_Exiled_Ukrainian_Politician_Has_Urgent_Message_* for his Compatriots
> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/35ARHJdluwhm
> 
> *_Ukrainian_Man_Gives_His_Thoughts_On_True_Culprits_of_the_War_*
> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/i7AJetcxWbsq
> 
> *_Ukrainian_Man_Says_100,000_AFU_Died_in_Artemovsk_Bahmut_*
> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/OwWxEpAhLCEu
> 
> Exiled Ukrainian Politician Says The
> *_People_Need_to_March_on_Kiev_To_Save_the_Country_*
> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/lhCzf2F91J3g
> 
> *_American_Marine_Corps_Veteran_Mercenary_Confirmed_Killed_* in
> Kramatorsk Pizzeria Strike https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/xT18Re5ZdwqS
> 
> *_Ukraine_Update_July_2,_2023_*
> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/ufZ0ssKUvurm

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#614389 — Re: How do you tell who's

FromBarney Papadelias <bldb@yayaasnr.ia>
Date2023-07-03 19:28 +0000
SubjectRe: How do you tell who's
Message-ID<u7v7gv$1nnre$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#614343
Timothy Golden wrote:

> On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 5:38:14 AM UTC-4, Hassell Chrysanthopoulos
> wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>> 
>> > On 7/2/2023 11:13 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> >>> I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a
>> >>> janitor. It appears I was wrong.
>> >> Is it just me or does that sound censorious?
>> > It's just you.
>> 
>> this is so cool. The polakers are fucking badly the women of uKurine.
>> That was the whole idea, from the beginning. I was a fool.
>> 
>> *_Exiled_Ukrainian_Politician_Has_Urgent_Message_* for his Compatriots
>> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/35ARHJdluwhm
>> 
>> *_Ukrainian_Man_Gives_His_Thoughts_On_True_Culprits_of_the_War_*
>> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/i7AJetcxWbsq
>> 
>> *_Ukrainian_Man_Says_100,000_AFU_Died_in_Artemovsk_Bahmut_*
>> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/OwWxEpAhLCEu
>> 
>> Exiled Ukrainian Politician Says The
>> *_People_Need_to_March_on_Kiev_To_Save_the_Country_*
>> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/lhCzf2F91J3g
>> 
>> *_American_Marine_Corps_Veteran_Mercenary_Confirmed_Killed_* in
>> Kramatorsk Pizzeria Strike
>> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/xT18Re5ZdwqS
>> 
>> *_Ukraine_Update_July_2,_2023_*
>> https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/ufZ0ssKUvurm
>> 
>> also, khazar gypsy goy zelenske wants uKurine to speak engilsh, not
>> russian. ANglo_saxoning his people. This khazar goy is stupid like
>> shit.
> 
> Maybe it's time for Biden to give neo-nazis life insurance policies to
> go to the front line in Ukraine?
> Do it for your family?
> 
> Thanks for the links. The 'politician' link looks extremely fake.

not fake, just you stupid.

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