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How do you tell who's telling the truth?

Started byLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
First post2023-06-26 12:45 -0700
Last post2023-07-03 12:27 -0700
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  How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-26 12:45 -0700
    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 09:05 -0700
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 09:39 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 11:26 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 11:50 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-28 17:55 -0500
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-28 23:04 +0000
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 16:15 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-28 18:51 -0500
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 17:54 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 09:06 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 12:58 -0500
                      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 11:39 -0700
                        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 14:21 -0500
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 16:20 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 16:27 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 09:25 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 11:28 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 13:52 -0500
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:06 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:19 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 16:47 -0500
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:38 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 16:46 -0500
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 21:17 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:22 -0700
    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 10:52 -0700
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 13:51 -0500
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 12:07 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 12:15 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 17:49 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:12 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:20 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:38 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 22:51 -0500
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:55 -0700
                      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 04:24 -0500
                        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:11 -0700
                          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 13:22 -0500
                            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:34 -0700
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:56 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:59 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:00 -0700
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 14:25 -0500
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 00:33 -0400
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 21:42 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Barry Schenck <ccsc@ebrrccrh.bc> - 2023-07-02 12:30 +0000
                          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:40 -0700
                            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:00 -0700
                            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 14:39 -0500
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:53 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 13:07 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:03 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 22:48 -0500
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:51 +0200
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:53 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:01 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:04 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:05 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:52 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:01 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:30 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:29 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-07-03 13:31 +0200
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 09:47 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-07-05 08:31 +0200
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Stoney Karkampasis <ttas@opiariam.ka> - 2023-07-05 18:00 +0000
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-03 11:10 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-03 11:11 -0700
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:48 +0200
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 03:01 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 12:55 +0200
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 04:26 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 23:12 -0400
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 20:13 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 23:24 -0400
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Hassell Chrysanthopoulos <rhss@lypnahhu.yh> - 2023-07-03 09:38 +0000
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-03 14:28 -0400
                      Re: How do you tell who Selvin Pappayiorgas <aasi@igesepap.on> - 2023-07-03 19:50 +0000
                    Re: How do you tell who's Barney Papadelias <bldb@yayaasnr.ia> - 2023-07-03 19:28 +0000
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 22:26 -0500
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 21:02 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 21:27 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 21:47 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 20:59 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-03 14:34 -0400
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 12:23 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-02 12:28 +0200
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 09:32 -0500
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 08:15 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:39 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:51 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 11:23 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 13:21 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 13:28 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 14:47 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 14:47 -0700
                  Off the Rails (was Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth?) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 17:01 -0500
    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 20:47 +0200
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-03 21:01 +0200
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@wanadou.fr> - 2023-07-03 19:06 +0000
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-03 21:09 +0200
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 12:27 -0700

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#614315

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-02 22:26 -0500
Message-ID<kgetg3F7fsU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614311
On 7/2/2023 10:13 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:12:05 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>> On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:
>>>
>> []
>>> Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have
>>> the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor?
>> I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a
>> janitor. It appears I was wrong.
> Is it just me or does that sound censorious?

It is just you, again.

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#614320

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 21:02 -0700
Message-ID<0aea31d1-6121-4733-ad39-59cb6b2f35d3n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614311
On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 05:13:48 UTC+2, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:12:05 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: 
> > On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
> > > On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said: 
> > > 
> > [] 
> > > Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have 
> > > the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor? 
> > I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a 
> > janitor. It appears I was wrong.
> Is it just me or does that sound censorious?

It's just you. Relativistic doggies don't have any
real power. They can only cast insults and
slanders, that's all.
Just Ministry of Truth, without any help from
Ministry of Love.

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#614325

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 21:27 -0700
Message-ID<1edf63fc-8133-4364-a2a7-3833d7230b00n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614320
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:03:01 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 05:13:48 UTC+2, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:12:05 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: 
> > > On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
> > > > On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said: 
> > > > 
> > > [] 
> > > > Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have 
> > > > the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor? 
> > > I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a 
> > > janitor. It appears I was wrong. 
> > Is it just me or does that sound censorious?
> It's just you. Relativistic doggies don't have any 
> real power. They can only cast insults and 
> slanders, that's all. 
> Just Ministry of Truth, without any help from 
> Ministry of Love.
You're right. No one in their right mind would think insults and slanders are ostracizing.

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#614329

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 21:47 -0700
Message-ID<c8093b51-de94-4167-8234-401ba9547aa9n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614325
On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 06:27:10 UTC+2, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:03:01 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 05:13:48 UTC+2, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:12:05 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote: 
> > > > On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
> > > > > On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said: 
> > > > > 
> > > > [] 
> > > > > Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have 
> > > > > the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor? 
> > > > I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a 
> > > > janitor. It appears I was wrong. 
> > > Is it just me or does that sound censorious? 
> > It's just you. Relativistic doggies don't have any 
> > real power. They can only cast insults and 
> > slanders, that's all. 
> > Just Ministry of Truth, without any help from 
> > Ministry of Love.
> You're right. No one in their right mind would think insults and slanders are ostracizing.

They're too small group to ostracize, too.
They're just brainwashed fanatic idiots, 
trained to insult the enemies of their 
moronic religion.

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#614319

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 20:59 -0700
Message-ID<526ef30d-fa8c-45ce-985c-32a9365678fcn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614310
On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 05:12:05 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
> > On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said: 
> >
> []
> > Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have 
> > the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor?
> I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a 
> janitor. It appears I was wrong.

And do you still believe that adjusting clolcks
to your 9 192 631 770 ISO idiocy is putting
them to some "Newton mode" You're such an
amazing idiot, stupid Mike. Even considering
relativistic standards.

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#614375

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-03 14:34 -0400
Message-ID<u7v4bf$3ou0k$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614319
On 7/2/2023 11:59 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 05:12:05 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
>> On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:
>>>
>> []
>>> Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have
>>> the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor?
>> I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a
>> janitor. It appears I was wrong.
> 
> And do you still believe that adjusting clolcks

Poor drunk janitor.

> to your 9 192 631 770 ISO idiocy is putting
> them to some "Newton mode"

You still haven't figured out what Newton Mode, Einstein Mode and ISO 
mean regarding a GPS satellite, or what the number 9 192 631 770 means.

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#614387

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-03 12:23 -0700
Message-ID<c8ed2a37-4dec-4ccc-9acc-de43d03456a1n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614375
On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 20:34:26 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 7/2/2023 11:59 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 05:12:05 UTC+2, Volney wrote: 
> >> On 7/2/2023 6:55 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
> >>> On 2023-07-02 10:01:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said: 
> >>> 
> >> [] 
> >>> Volney calls you Janitor, but I'm not sure I believe that. Do you have 
> >>> the mental capacity needed to fulfil the role ofa janitor? 
> >> I gave him the benefit of a doubt that he was smart enough to be a 
> >> janitor. It appears I was wrong. 
> > 
> > And do you still believe that adjusting clolcks
> Poor drunk janitor.

Poor lying and slandering relativistic doggie. 

> > to your 9 192 631 770 ISO idiocy is putting 
> > them to some "Newton mode"
> You still haven't figured out what Newton Mode, Einstein Mode and ISO 
> mean regarding a GPS satellite, or what the number 9 192 631 770 means.

So you still do believe. You're such an amazing
idiot, stupid Mike, even considering the average
in your moronic church.

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#614255

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-07-02 12:28 +0200
Message-ID<1qd8o9k.w1ilnf1omtgmzN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#614252
Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2023-06-30 17:52:17 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:
> 
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21?PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> >> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
> > A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are lying.B.
> > Relativists censor their opponents.C. Therefore, relativity is a lie.
> > Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion group.
> 
> Nobody is censoring the crackpots in this discussion group. They can 
> say whatever they want, and they do. Pointing out that much of what 
> they say is ignorant nonsense is not censorship.
> 
> Can you point to a single one of your posts that was "censored"?

And he suffers from the curious delusion that postings in this forum
are somehow relevant for 'relativity',

Jan


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#614263

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-02 09:32 -0500
Message-ID<kgdg47Fo2g8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614252
On 7/2/2023 3:48 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2023-06-30 17:52:17 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:
> 
>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen 
>> wrote:
>>> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
>> A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are 
>> lying.B. Relativists censor their opponents.C. Therefore, relativity 
>> is a lie.
>> Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion group.
> 
> Nobody is censoring the crackpots in this discussion group. They can say 
> whatever they want, and they do. Pointing out that much of what they say 
> is ignorant nonsense is not censorship.
> 
> Can you point to a single one of your posts that was "censored"?

Indeed, when asked to clarify their points, cranks such as "Jane",
"Laurence..." fail to provide information. The only person in real life
that behaved this way was (unfortunately is) a legally diagnosed
paranoid narcissistic schizophrenic. (For the uninformed, that's
a form called "dual diagnosis" even when there are more than two
diagnosed conditions as here.)

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#614264

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 08:15 -0700
Message-ID<701ae96b-196e-4702-b851-d4a6f4e1a911n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614263
On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 16:32:42 UTC+2, whodat wrote:
> On 7/2/2023 3:48 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
> > On 2023-06-30 17:52:17 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said: 
> > 
> >> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen 
> >> wrote: 
> >>> The ones trying to silence the others are lying 
> >> A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are 
> >> lying.B. Relativists censor their opponents.C. Therefore, relativity 
> >> is a lie. 
> >> Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion group. 
> > 
> > Nobody is censoring the crackpots in this discussion group. They can say 
> > whatever they want, and they do. Pointing out that much of what they say 
> > is ignorant nonsense is not censorship. 
> > 
> > Can you point to a single one of your posts that was "censored"?
> Indeed, when asked to clarify their points, cranks such as "Jane", 
> "Laurence..." fail to provide information.

Relativistic fanatic idiots, on the other hand, 
confronted eoth a clear and obvious proof
that the physics of their idiot guru wasn't 
even consistent - can only pretend they don't
see.

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#614278

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 10:39 -0700
Message-ID<ef731899-1f62-4ebd-a2d1-1be89b9518a9n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614264
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:15:19 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

> Relativistic fanatic idiots, on the other hand, 
> confronted eoth a clear and obvious proof 
> that the physics of their idiot guru wasn't 
> even consistent - can only pretend they don't 
> see.

And just what "clear and obvious proof" would that be, Woz?

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#614279

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 10:51 -0700
Message-ID<4790b5e8-6e26-4035-b956-203cdd6e52bbn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614278
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 10:40:00 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:15:19 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> 
> > Relativistic fanatic idiots, on the other hand, 
> > confronted eoth a clear and obvious proof 
> > that the physics of their idiot guru wasn't 
> > even consistent - can only pretend they don't 
> > see.
> And just what "clear and obvious proof" would that be, Woz?

Each clock cannot be going slower than the other...

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#614283

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 11:23 -0700
Message-ID<ac173cc9-31d4-4f25-8730-9ee58aeef7bfn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614278
On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 19:40:00 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:15:19 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> 
> > Relativistic fanatic idiots, on the other hand, 
> > confronted eoth a clear and obvious proof 
> > that the physics of their idiot guru wasn't 
> > even consistent - can only pretend they don't 
> > see.
> And just what "clear and obvious proof" would that be, Woz?


Oh, I repeated it dozens of times, Al. You're 
free to pretend you haven't noticed, of course,
just like your fellow idiots do.

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#614290

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 13:21 -0700
Message-ID<31428899-afcb-4f04-83e6-2af90046b468n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614283
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:23:09 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 19:40:00 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:15:19 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > 
> > > Relativistic fanatic idiots, on the other hand, 
> > > confronted eoth a clear and obvious proof 
> > > that the physics of their idiot guru wasn't 
> > > even consistent - can only pretend they don't 
> > > see. 

> > And just what "clear and obvious proof" would that be, Woz?

> Oh, I repeated it dozens of times, Al. You're 
> free to pretend you haven't noticed, of course, 
> just like your fellow idiots do.

No "clear and obvious proof" has ever been reproduced by your keyboard, Woz. All I see from you is delusion...

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#614291

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 13:28 -0700
Message-ID<be0625af-8860-4da8-bf7e-89988c1fb9d2n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614290
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 1:21:43 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:23:09 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 19:40:00 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:15:19 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > Relativistic fanatic idiots, on the other hand, 
> > > > confronted eoth a clear and obvious proof 
> > > > that the physics of their idiot guru wasn't 
> > > > even consistent - can only pretend they don't 
> > > > see. 
> 
> > > And just what "clear and obvious proof" would that be, Woz? 
> 
> > Oh, I repeated it dozens of times, Al. You're 
> > free to pretend you haven't noticed, of course, 
> > just like your fellow idiots do.
> No "clear and obvious proof" has ever been reproduced by your keyboard, Woz. All I see from you is delusion...

Relativity has a contradiction. Contradictions are what never belong paul.
There can be more than one frame comparison. So how do we keep them all?

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#614293

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 14:47 -0700
Message-ID<52df3aea-5aa5-48d1-983a-cf86bfe4de22n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614291
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 1:28:59 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 1:21:43 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:23:09 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 19:40:00 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:15:19 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > Relativistic fanatic idiots, on the other hand, 
> > > > > confronted eoth a clear and obvious proof 
> > > > > that the physics of their idiot guru wasn't 
> > > > > even consistent - can only pretend they don't 
> > > > > see. 
> > 
> > > > And just what "clear and obvious proof" would that be, Woz? 
> > 
> > > Oh, I repeated it dozens of times, Al. You're 
> > > free to pretend you haven't noticed, of course, 
> > > just like your fellow idiots do. 
> > No "clear and obvious proof" has ever been reproduced by your keyboard, Woz. All I see from you is delusion...
> Relativity has a contradiction. Contradictions are what never belong paul. 
> There can be more than one frame comparison. So how do we keep them all?
Right. Once a third frame of reference is introduced, special relativity is self-contradictory nonsense.

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#614294

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 14:47 -0700
Message-ID<b20ac196-f169-4d94-94cd-e21bc9dc0667n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614283
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:23:09 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 19:40:00 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:15:19 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > 
> > > Relativistic fanatic idiots, on the other hand, 
> > > confronted eoth a clear and obvious proof 
> > > that the physics of their idiot guru wasn't 
> > > even consistent - can only pretend they don't 
> > > see. 
> > And just what "clear and obvious proof" would that be, Woz?
> Oh, I repeated it dozens of times, Al. You're 
> free to pretend you haven't noticed, of course, 
> just like your fellow idiots do.
Never mind the hecklers...

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#614295 — Off the Rails (was Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth?)

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-02 17:01 -0500
SubjectOff the Rails (was Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth?)
Message-ID<kgeae4Fs52vU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614294
On 7/2/2023 4:47 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:23:09 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 19:40:00 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:15:19 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Relativistic fanatic idiots, on the other hand,
>>>> confronted eoth a clear and obvious proof
>>>> that the physics of their idiot guru wasn't
>>>> even consistent - can only pretend they don't
>>>> see.
>>> And just what "clear and obvious proof" would that be, Woz?
>> Oh, I repeated it dozens of times, Al. You're
>> free to pretend you haven't noticed, of course,
>> just like your fellow idiots do.
> Never mind the hecklers...

<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Off_the_Rails.jpg/1280px-Off_the_Rails.jpg>

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#614381

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-03 20:47 +0200
Message-ID<kggjdpF8dcjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#613792
On 2023-06-26 19:45:20 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:

> The ones trying to silence the others are lying

Who is trying to silence anyone? You have had complete freedom to spout 
whatever nuttery crosses your mind. Pointing out that it is nonsense is 
not censorship.


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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#614382

FromPython <python@invalid.org>
Date2023-07-03 21:01 +0200
Message-ID<u7v5v3$3p7d1$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614381
Le 03/07/2023 à 20:47, Athel Cornish-Bowden a écrit :
> On 2023-06-26 19:45:20 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:
> 
>> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
> 
> Who is trying to silence anyone? You have had complete freedom to spout 
> whatever nuttery crosses your mind. Pointing out that it is nonsense is 
> not censorship.

All cranks share this claim that critics against them is censorship :
Valev, Hachel/Lengrand, etc.


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