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The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed.

Started byRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
First post2023-06-17 21:32 -0700
Last post2023-09-07 16:51 -0700
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  The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 21:32 -0700
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 10:44 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-18 10:56 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:03 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 13:10 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-18 15:11 -0700
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-06-19 09:31 -0500
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 07:45 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-19 07:51 -0700
                Cranks Richard Hertz, Laurence Clark and Pat Dolan keep on slobbering "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 07:56 -0700
                  Re: Cranks Richard Hertz, Laurence Clark and Pat Dolan keep on slobbering Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-19 08:01 -0700
                    Re: Cranks Richard Hertz, Laurence Clark and Pat Dolan keep on slobbering "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 11:55 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 10:24 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-19 10:53 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-19 07:52 -0700
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 14:48 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 15:24 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 15:51 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 16:29 -0700
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-20 20:05 -0500
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 18:59 -0700
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 20:19 -0700
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 21:08 -0700
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 21:11 -0700
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-21 06:23 -0500
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-21 17:41 +0200
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-21 10:59 -0700
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-21 13:39 -0500
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-22 11:04 +0200
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-22 11:04 +0200
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 02:07 -0700
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-21 12:09 -0400
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-21 10:53 -0700
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-22 11:04 +0200
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-22 11:06 -0700
                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-23 11:49 +0200
                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 08:37 -0700
                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-23 11:59 -0500
                                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 10:38 -0700
                                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-23 13:28 -0500
                                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Chaston Kuipers <rsoc@scusseee.ps> - 2023-06-23 21:42 +0000
                                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-24 10:46 +0200
                                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-24 10:46 +0200
                                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-24 08:05 -0700
                                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-24 08:20 -0700
                                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-24 09:37 -0700
                                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 10:30 -0700
                                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-24 10:54 -0700
                                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-24 11:04 -0700
                                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-24 11:07 -0700
                                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 11:21 -0700
                                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-24 11:28 -0700
                                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-24 13:44 -0700
                                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-25 13:48 -0700
                                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-26 11:48 +0200
                                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-26 07:22 -0700
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                                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-26 12:45 -0700
                                                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-26 22:53 +0200
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                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 08:44 -0700
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 11:17 -0700
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 11:22 -0700
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                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 11:26 -0700
                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-21 11:39 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2023-06-20 18:33 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 15:31 -0700
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 19:59 -0700
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 07:07 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 16:47 +0200
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 08:51 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-23 13:13 -0400
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Epifanio Schoonenburg <urou@sucinora.br> - 2023-06-23 17:28 +0000
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 10:35 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Reginal Langbroek <gorl@gblarllb.ra> - 2023-06-23 17:40 +0000
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            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 12:01 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 12:58 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 13:02 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-23 21:28 -0400
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:49 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 16:35 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:55 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 16:43 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 16:46 -0700
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 09:51 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-27 10:55 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:50 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-27 13:58 -0400
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:32 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-27 21:55 +0200
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:41 -0700
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-27 23:30 -0400
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 21:14 -0700
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-28 13:23 +0200
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 07:07 -0700
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 10:20 -0700
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-28 23:31 +0200
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 15:03 -0700
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-29 12:48 +0200
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                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-09-08 12:47 +0200
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                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-09-09 11:28 +0200
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                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-09-07 21:57 -0700
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                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 15:36 -0700
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-29 12:48 +0200
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-29 12:08 -0400
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 13:31 -0500
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                                                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 09:34 -0700
                                                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-02 19:06 +0200
                                                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:09 -0700
                                                                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-03 01:47 +0200
                                                                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 20:57 -0700
                                                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 11:13 -0700
                                                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 13:33 -0500
                                                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 12:56 -0700
                                                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 12:57 -0700
                                                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 23:17 -0400
                                                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-03 11:27 -0700
                                                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 01:26 -0500
                                                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 11:12 -0700
                                                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 13:04 -0700
                                                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 13:53 -0700
                                                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 01:15 -0500
                                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 19:39 -0500
                                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Smith Can <aanh@nnnttcth.ia> - 2023-07-01 22:10 +0000
                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-01 13:26 +0200
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Hillary Oorschot <lara@aocolror.ya> - 2023-06-29 21:29 +0000
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 17:04 -0500
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Emanuele Heel <manl@eeeeleee.ll> - 2023-06-29 22:31 +0000
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-06-29 20:30 -0400
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 19:53 -0500
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 19:46 -0500
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's David Agteren <ainv@gvdideig.aa> - 2023-06-30 09:18 +0000
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-30 09:17 -0400
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Woodrow Richard <rwao@rwwrrooo.rw> - 2023-07-01 11:43 +0000
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Demonte Achthoven <oado@ennmoaea.ch> - 2023-06-28 16:42 +0000
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Braxton Amstel <txmt@asememtm.ra> - 2023-06-28 16:50 +0000
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Bob Rumpade <peab@orbmarer.ou> - 2023-06-28 23:04 +0000
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-28 13:23 +0200
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2023-06-28 15:09 +0200
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 17:47 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 18:46 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 20:29 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 21:24 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-29 12:48 +0200
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 05:37 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 21:21 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Lou <noelturntive@live.co.uk> - 2023-06-29 05:53 -0700
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 07:02 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-29 12:14 -0400
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 12:17 -0700
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:03 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 15:09 -0700
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 15:42 -0700
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 15:51 -0700
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 17:33 -0700
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 13:27 -0700
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 14:16 -0700
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 19:44 -0500
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-30 21:08 -0400
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 21:49 -0700
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-30 00:25 -0400
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's Peter-John Maes <a-he@t-jtrjsm.ee> - 2023-06-30 11:13 +0000
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-30 00:23 -0400
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-30 11:45 +0200
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 04:13 -0700
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-01 13:26 +0200
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 14:37 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 19:30 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 19:56 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:34 -0700
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-07 11:13 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Keaton Konstantatos <ktnn@tksatooa.ta> - 2023-07-07 19:16 +0000
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-08 11:40 +0200
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 02:59 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-08 10:23 -0400
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:24 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-09 13:20 -0400
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 13:19 -0700
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-10 13:28 -0400
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-10 13:39 -0700
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-10 18:45 -0500
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-10 17:43 -0700
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-10 20:52 -0500
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-10 19:17 -0700
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-10 19:26 -0700
                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-10 19:36 -0700
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-11 11:58 +0200
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-11 03:30 -0700
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-11 06:40 -0700
                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-12 15:02 -0700
                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-12 18:14 -0500
                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-12 16:29 -0700
                                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-12 21:30 -0500
                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-07-12 19:08 -0500
                                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-12 19:29 -0700
                                      Kapo Imbecile Richard Hertz gets to eat shit "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-07-13 18:48 -0700
                                        Re: Kapo Imbecile Richard Hertz gets to eat shit Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-13 20:48 -0700
                                          Re: Kapo Imbecile Richard Hertz gets to eat shit "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-07-14 08:29 -0700
                                            Re: Kapo Imbecile Richard Hertz gets to eat shit Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-14 08:38 -0700
                                              Re: Kapo Imbecile Richard Hertz gets to eat shit "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-07-14 08:52 -0700
                                                Re: Kapo Imbecile Richard Hertz gets to eat shit Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-14 09:47 -0700
                                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-12 21:36 -0500
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-10 23:14 -0400
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-10 20:43 -0700
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Barton Demakis <erom@akadikmr.no> - 2023-07-11 09:24 +0000
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Pasquale Nomikos <osai@qoauqsqm.ka> - 2023-07-08 20:47 +0000
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-09 12:35 +0200
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 09:29 -0700
        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:11 -0700
          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:38 -0700
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:40 -0700
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 10:44 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 12:22 -0700
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:00 -0700
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:32 -0700
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:34 -0700
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:40 -0700
            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 11:27 -0700
              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 12:03 -0700
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 12:20 -0700
                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 12:56 -0700
                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:39 -0700
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-08 13:47 -0700
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 14:20 -0700
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 22:24 -0700
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-09 11:01 -0700
                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-09 14:10 -0400
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-09 11:16 -0700
                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 12:08 -0700
                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-09 14:25 -0500
                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-09 18:43 -0400
                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 16:07 -0700
                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 16:18 -0700
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Lee Kanavos <alke@avvvvekn.ll> - 2023-07-09 19:21 +0000
                            Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 13:21 -0700
                              Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-09 19:54 -0400
                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 21:25 -0700
                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 21:58 -0700
                                  Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-10 13:31 -0400
                                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-10 10:37 -0700
                                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Jeiker Paraskos <okas@ppkiesre.rr> - 2023-07-10 22:20 +0000
                                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-10 16:30 -0700
                                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-10 23:27 -0400
                                          Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Eugene Antimisiaris <anse@neanenae.ir> - 2023-07-11 09:07 +0000
                                Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Wyouman Petrakis <iawp@eyapkrsk.or> - 2023-07-10 11:39 +0000
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 14:34 -0700
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 15:05 -0700
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-08 17:46 -0700
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-09 11:12 +0200
                        Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Fraga Kalakos <akol@fgkkakar.gk> - 2023-07-09 15:11 +0000
                    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-08 19:00 -0500
                      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 17:06 -0700
      Crank Richard Hertz refuses to concede, "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-07-08 06:16 -0700
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-18 08:57 -0700
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-18 09:05 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-18 11:21 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-18 13:05 -0700
      Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-18 13:09 -0700
    Re: The HOAX of Einstein's Mercury's 43"/century perihelion advance exposed. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-18 16:44 -0700
      Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-07-18 16:56 -0700
        Re: Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-18 18:43 -0700
          Re: Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-07-18 19:30 -0700
            Re: Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-07-18 19:46 -0700
            Re: Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-18 20:37 -0700
              Re: Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-18 21:30 -0700
            Re: Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-09-07 14:06 -0700
              Re: Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-09-07 16:20 -0700
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-09-07 16:54 -0700
            Re: Crank Richard Hertz digs up some fellow crank Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-09-07 16:51 -0700

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#614230

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-01 18:02 -0500
Message-ID<kgbplbFgc07U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614225
On 7/1/2023 4:00 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 7/1/2023 1:57 PM, whodat wrote:
>> On 7/1/2023 3:39 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 3:08:07 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote:
> [...]
> 
> Fwiw, this cat is pissed off! lol:
> 
> https://youtu.be/w0ffwDYo00Q
> 
> ;^)

Very nice!

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#614227

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 15:04 -0700
Message-ID<eddd7441-d1d1-4ce5-be3b-d03268daae0bn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614205
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 11:08:07 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 7/1/2023 11:59 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:47:32 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >> On 6/30/2023 10:11 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> 
> 
> >>>> There are limits, practical limits, that have to be defined, unless it be too late. AI is a very good example, hot topic these days. 
> >>> Relativity has contributed to the waylaying of cosmology for 100 years. Nonsense like the baseless assumption of a finite universe, the velocity-distance relationship, and singularities have prevented cosmologists from understanding obvious facts. For example, how could our galaxy have only spun around 56 times since its formation? Common sense is enough to see through this and understand since there is no evidence for a finite universe, that our galaxy has spun around many more times than that. 
> 
> >> Can you present evidence of a non-finite universe? The absence of 
> >> evidence is not, itself, evidence, but it does lend credibility 
> >> to a statement, "we don't know." 
> 
> >> I'll go so far as to suggest you will not provide an answer to my 
> >> question. 
> 
> > Sure, I'm procrastinating from reading, so why not? There is no evidence for a finite universe. That is a baseless assumption that some positivists thought was bright. My view is that since all evidence so far finds no limit to time or space in the universe, it is a practically infinite and practically eternal universe.
> Since this is actually a discussion AND a debate, let me carry the 
> discussion one step further. Whenever you come out with a claim for 
> an infinite universe I'll oppose that. And that's precisely what you 
> keep doing. If you actually read what I wrote above, "we don't know" 
> you'd find that all you are doing in a nasty bullish way is agreeing 
> with me. But you're so blinded by some sort of irreconcilable rage that 
> you argue blindly. 
> 
> In science, you, as someone who once claimed to be a scientist, have 
> to understand we do not know or accept facts until we actually know. 
> Your "practically," like logic, is never sufficient. 
> 
> If you came out and said, "I have good reason to believe the universe 
> is infinite" I'd stand and applaud you. But what you're doing is 
> creating "evidence" where it does no exist. As humans we have 
> limitations, and society as a whole accepts and lives within those 
> limitations. That's what you have been arguing against. Whether it 
> takes 15 minutes or a few hundred years to prove your thesis does 
> not matter. I wrote earlier about making a difference where your 
> career is concerned, this isn't it, and you know what I'm talking 
> about. 
> 
> To be clear, sometimes what it takes is to be at the right place 
> at the right time, then and there to recognize an opportunity that 
> practically begs you to take action that "puts you on the map of 
> human progress." The key is to be 24/7/365 alert to such 
> possibilities. You cannot create them out of thin air, IMO. YMMV. 
> 
> To conclude, all we have discovered is a finite universe, so that 
> is what we go with. That we keep discovering that the universe is 
> larger than we thought does not presently permit conclusions that 
> the universe is infinite. It could be that some huge science 
> conference takes up the topic in the near future and elects to 
> accept an infinite universe. But that hasn't happened either. 
> 
> If you live long enough your "infinite universe" will doubtless 
> be accepted. But as the cop writing a careless driving ticket 
> says, "I'll not allow you to slide by cutting corners."
I wouldn't hire you for a consultant since relativity has a stranglehold on you.

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#614231

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-01 18:08 -0500
Message-ID<kgbpvqFgc07U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614227
On 7/1/2023 5:04 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 11:08:07 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 7/1/2023 11:59 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:47:32 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>>>> On 6/30/2023 10:11 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>> There are limits, practical limits, that have to be defined, unless it be too late. AI is a very good example, hot topic these days.
>>>>> Relativity has contributed to the waylaying of cosmology for 100 years. Nonsense like the baseless assumption of a finite universe, the velocity-distance relationship, and singularities have prevented cosmologists from understanding obvious facts. For example, how could our galaxy have only spun around 56 times since its formation? Common sense is enough to see through this and understand since there is no evidence for a finite universe, that our galaxy has spun around many more times than that.
>>
>>>> Can you present evidence of a non-finite universe? The absence of
>>>> evidence is not, itself, evidence, but it does lend credibility
>>>> to a statement, "we don't know."
>>
>>>> I'll go so far as to suggest you will not provide an answer to my
>>>> question.
>>
>>> Sure, I'm procrastinating from reading, so why not? There is no evidence for a finite universe. That is a baseless assumption that some positivists thought was bright. My view is that since all evidence so far finds no limit to time or space in the universe, it is a practically infinite and practically eternal universe.
>> Since this is actually a discussion AND a debate, let me carry the
>> discussion one step further. Whenever you come out with a claim for
>> an infinite universe I'll oppose that. And that's precisely what you
>> keep doing. If you actually read what I wrote above, "we don't know"
>> you'd find that all you are doing in a nasty bullish way is agreeing
>> with me. But you're so blinded by some sort of irreconcilable rage that
>> you argue blindly.
>>
>> In science, you, as someone who once claimed to be a scientist, have
>> to understand we do not know or accept facts until we actually know.
>> Your "practically," like logic, is never sufficient.
>>
>> If you came out and said, "I have good reason to believe the universe
>> is infinite" I'd stand and applaud you. But what you're doing is
>> creating "evidence" where it does no exist. As humans we have
>> limitations, and society as a whole accepts and lives within those
>> limitations. That's what you have been arguing against. Whether it
>> takes 15 minutes or a few hundred years to prove your thesis does
>> not matter. I wrote earlier about making a difference where your
>> career is concerned, this isn't it, and you know what I'm talking
>> about.
>>
>> To be clear, sometimes what it takes is to be at the right place
>> at the right time, then and there to recognize an opportunity that
>> practically begs you to take action that "puts you on the map of
>> human progress." The key is to be 24/7/365 alert to such
>> possibilities. You cannot create them out of thin air, IMO. YMMV.
>>
>> To conclude, all we have discovered is a finite universe, so that
>> is what we go with. That we keep discovering that the universe is
>> larger than we thought does not presently permit conclusions that
>> the universe is infinite. It could be that some huge science
>> conference takes up the topic in the near future and elects to
>> accept an infinite universe. But that hasn't happened either.
>>
>> If you live long enough your "infinite universe" will doubtless
>> be accepted. But as the cop writing a careless driving ticket
>> says, "I'll not allow you to slide by cutting corners."

> I wouldn't hire you for a consultant since relativity has a stranglehold on you.

What makes you think I'd work for you, regardless of the pay?

BTW, relativity had no import in the work I did. My employers were
happy with me. I could not have asked for better.

Please consider how small a role relativity -lays in most of the
world's active business. Heck, I never heard the word at work,
ever. And I doubt it ever crossed the minds of the people I
worked with and for.

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#614232

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 16:17 -0700
Message-ID<01ac9b7d-6f5b-47bc-b626-f06d8886d76bn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614231
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 4:08:46 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 7/1/2023 5:04 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 11:08:07 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >> On 7/1/2023 11:59 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:47:32 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >>>> On 6/30/2023 10:11 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>>>>> There are limits, practical limits, that have to be defined, unless it be too late. AI is a very good example, hot topic these days. 
> >>>>> Relativity has contributed to the waylaying of cosmology for 100 years. Nonsense like the baseless assumption of a finite universe, the velocity-distance relationship, and singularities have prevented cosmologists from understanding obvious facts. For example, how could our galaxy have only spun around 56 times since its formation? Common sense is enough to see through this and understand since there is no evidence for a finite universe, that our galaxy has spun around many more times than that. 
> >> 
> >>>> Can you present evidence of a non-finite universe? The absence of 
> >>>> evidence is not, itself, evidence, but it does lend credibility 
> >>>> to a statement, "we don't know." 
> >> 
> >>>> I'll go so far as to suggest you will not provide an answer to my 
> >>>> question. 
> >> 
> >>> Sure, I'm procrastinating from reading, so why not? There is no evidence for a finite universe. That is a baseless assumption that some positivists thought was bright. My view is that since all evidence so far finds no limit to time or space in the universe, it is a practically infinite and practically eternal universe. 
> >> Since this is actually a discussion AND a debate, let me carry the 
> >> discussion one step further. Whenever you come out with a claim for 
> >> an infinite universe I'll oppose that. And that's precisely what you 
> >> keep doing. If you actually read what I wrote above, "we don't know" 
> >> you'd find that all you are doing in a nasty bullish way is agreeing 
> >> with me. But you're so blinded by some sort of irreconcilable rage that 
> >> you argue blindly. 
> >> 
> >> In science, you, as someone who once claimed to be a scientist, have 
> >> to understand we do not know or accept facts until we actually know. 
> >> Your "practically," like logic, is never sufficient. 
> >> 
> >> If you came out and said, "I have good reason to believe the universe 
> >> is infinite" I'd stand and applaud you. But what you're doing is 
> >> creating "evidence" where it does no exist. As humans we have 
> >> limitations, and society as a whole accepts and lives within those 
> >> limitations. That's what you have been arguing against. Whether it 
> >> takes 15 minutes or a few hundred years to prove your thesis does 
> >> not matter. I wrote earlier about making a difference where your 
> >> career is concerned, this isn't it, and you know what I'm talking 
> >> about. 
> >> 
> >> To be clear, sometimes what it takes is to be at the right place 
> >> at the right time, then and there to recognize an opportunity that 
> >> practically begs you to take action that "puts you on the map of 
> >> human progress." The key is to be 24/7/365 alert to such 
> >> possibilities. You cannot create them out of thin air, IMO. YMMV. 
> >> 
> >> To conclude, all we have discovered is a finite universe, so that 
> >> is what we go with. That we keep discovering that the universe is 
> >> larger than we thought does not presently permit conclusions that 
> >> the universe is infinite. It could be that some huge science 
> >> conference takes up the topic in the near future and elects to 
> >> accept an infinite universe. But that hasn't happened either. 
> >> 
> >> If you live long enough your "infinite universe" will doubtless 
> >> be accepted. But as the cop writing a careless driving ticket 
> >> says, "I'll not allow you to slide by cutting corners." 
> 
> > I wouldn't hire you for a consultant since relativity has a stranglehold on you.
> What makes you think I'd work for you, regardless of the pay? 
> 
> BTW, relativity had no import in the work I did. My employers were 
> happy with me. I could not have asked for better. 
> 
> Please consider how small a role relativity -lays in most of the 
> world's active business. Heck, I never heard the word at work, 
> ever. And I doubt it ever crossed the minds of the people I 
> worked with and for.
There is a readily available video on YouTube of a Russian propagandist who left Russia decades ago explaining ideological subversion of a nation. A new generation is indoctrinated and they will never be dissuaded. Similarly, in science people are practically indoctrinated as we can tell from the well-known saying that one often has to wait for the current generation to die off. As a consultant what would you recommend be done? Should I take your advice and try to break their stranglehold or wait for them to die off?

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#614237

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-01 19:35 -0500
Message-ID<kgbv34Fh3j0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614232
On 7/1/2023 6:17 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 4:08:46 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 7/1/2023 5:04 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 11:08:07 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>>>> On 7/1/2023 11:59 AM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:47:32 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/30/2023 10:11 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are limits, practical limits, that have to be defined, unless it be too late. AI is a very good example, hot topic these days.
>>>>>>> Relativity has contributed to the waylaying of cosmology for 100 years. Nonsense like the baseless assumption of a finite universe, the velocity-distance relationship, and singularities have prevented cosmologists from understanding obvious facts. For example, how could our galaxy have only spun around 56 times since its formation? Common sense is enough to see through this and understand since there is no evidence for a finite universe, that our galaxy has spun around many more times than that.
>>>>
>>>>>> Can you present evidence of a non-finite universe? The absence of
>>>>>> evidence is not, itself, evidence, but it does lend credibility
>>>>>> to a statement, "we don't know."
>>>>
>>>>>> I'll go so far as to suggest you will not provide an answer to my
>>>>>> question.
>>>>
>>>>> Sure, I'm procrastinating from reading, so why not? There is no evidence for a finite universe. That is a baseless assumption that some positivists thought was bright. My view is that since all evidence so far finds no limit to time or space in the universe, it is a practically infinite and practically eternal universe.
>>>> Since this is actually a discussion AND a debate, let me carry the
>>>> discussion one step further. Whenever you come out with a claim for
>>>> an infinite universe I'll oppose that. And that's precisely what you
>>>> keep doing. If you actually read what I wrote above, "we don't know"
>>>> you'd find that all you are doing in a nasty bullish way is agreeing
>>>> with me. But you're so blinded by some sort of irreconcilable rage that
>>>> you argue blindly.
>>>>
>>>> In science, you, as someone who once claimed to be a scientist, have
>>>> to understand we do not know or accept facts until we actually know.
>>>> Your "practically," like logic, is never sufficient.
>>>>
>>>> If you came out and said, "I have good reason to believe the universe
>>>> is infinite" I'd stand and applaud you. But what you're doing is
>>>> creating "evidence" where it does no exist. As humans we have
>>>> limitations, and society as a whole accepts and lives within those
>>>> limitations. That's what you have been arguing against. Whether it
>>>> takes 15 minutes or a few hundred years to prove your thesis does
>>>> not matter. I wrote earlier about making a difference where your
>>>> career is concerned, this isn't it, and you know what I'm talking
>>>> about.
>>>>
>>>> To be clear, sometimes what it takes is to be at the right place
>>>> at the right time, then and there to recognize an opportunity that
>>>> practically begs you to take action that "puts you on the map of
>>>> human progress." The key is to be 24/7/365 alert to such
>>>> possibilities. You cannot create them out of thin air, IMO. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> To conclude, all we have discovered is a finite universe, so that
>>>> is what we go with. That we keep discovering that the universe is
>>>> larger than we thought does not presently permit conclusions that
>>>> the universe is infinite. It could be that some huge science
>>>> conference takes up the topic in the near future and elects to
>>>> accept an infinite universe. But that hasn't happened either.
>>>>
>>>> If you live long enough your "infinite universe" will doubtless
>>>> be accepted. But as the cop writing a careless driving ticket
>>>> says, "I'll not allow you to slide by cutting corners."
>>
>>> I wouldn't hire you for a consultant since relativity has a stranglehold on you.
>> What makes you think I'd work for you, regardless of the pay?
>>
>> BTW, relativity had no import in the work I did. My employers were
>> happy with me. I could not have asked for better.
>>
>> Please consider how small a role relativity -lays in most of the
>> world's active business. Heck, I never heard the word at work,
>> ever. And I doubt it ever crossed the minds of the people I
>> worked with and for.
> There is a readily available video on YouTube of a Russian propagandist who left Russia decades ago explaining ideological subversion of a nation. A new generation is indoctrinated and they will never be dissuaded. Similarly, in science people are practically indoctrinated as we can tell from the well-known saying that one often has to wait for the current generation to die off. As a consultant what would you recommend be done? Should I take your advice and try to break their stranglehold or wait for them to die off?

There is an ancient adage that tells us "we have to outlive our
teachers" in order to make progress. As a former consultant I'll tell
you what I always said that was always well received. There are no
firm and fast rules. Do whatever you think is right.

Believe it or not, that garnered a very nice paycheck. YMMV

P.S. I never gave much stock to propaganda, though to be completely
honest I participated occasionally in creating some. No different
from what so many are doing here. The only difference was a paycheck.

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#614233

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 16:18 -0700
Message-ID<8bad0fd1-f8ec-493e-8d97-f79735a0684an@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614231
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 8:08:46 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote:

<snip>

> BTW, relativity had no import in the work I did. My employers were 
> happy with me. I could not have asked for better. 
> 
> Please consider how small a role relativity -lays in most of the 
> world's active business. Heck, I never heard the word at work, 
> ever. And I doubt it ever crossed the minds of the people I 
> worked with and for.

Oh!  Finally, you confessed your most inner belief on relativity,

Notwithstanding, you accused me of being an ignorant crank, a science retrograde, etc,

Take it back!

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#614234

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 16:40 -0700
Message-ID<7d27c3a1-81f7-4e00-9cf6-f3d1514f5b6fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614233
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 4:18:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 8:08:46 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote: 
> 
> <snip>
> > BTW, relativity had no import in the work I did. My employers were 
> > happy with me. I could not have asked for better. 
> > 
> > Please consider how small a role relativity -lays in most of the 
> > world's active business. Heck, I never heard the word at work, 
> > ever. And I doubt it ever crossed the minds of the people I 
> > worked with and for.
> Oh! Finally, you confessed your most inner belief on relativity, 
> 
> Notwithstanding, you accused me of being an ignorant crank, a science retrograde, etc, 
> 
> Take it back!
I guess whodat just believes in it without knowing anything about it!

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#614239

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-01 19:40 -0500
Message-ID<kgbvd2Fh3j0U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614234
On 7/1/2023 6:40 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 4:18:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 8:08:46 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>> BTW, relativity had no import in the work I did. My employers were
>>> happy with me. I could not have asked for better.
>>>
>>> Please consider how small a role relativity -lays in most of the
>>> world's active business. Heck, I never heard the word at work,
>>> ever. And I doubt it ever crossed the minds of the people I
>>> worked with and for.
>> Oh! Finally, you confessed your most inner belief on relativity,
>>
>> Notwithstanding, you accused me of being an ignorant crank, a science retrograde, etc,
>>
>> Take it back!
> I guess whodat just believes in it without knowing anything about it!

Seems like most of what you write is guesswork. I haven't seen you
provide anything significant yet.

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#614241

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 20:14 -0700
Message-ID<6ea690ae-c2bf-4275-a8e4-0e168fd6eb3dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614239
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 5:41:10 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 7/1/2023 6:40 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 4:18:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> >> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 8:08:46 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote: 
> >> 
> >> <snip> 
> >>> BTW, relativity had no import in the work I did. My employers were 
> >>> happy with me. I could not have asked for better. 
> >>> 
> >>> Please consider how small a role relativity -lays in most of the 
> >>> world's active business. Heck, I never heard the word at work, 
> >>> ever. And I doubt it ever crossed the minds of the people I 
> >>> worked with and for. 
> >> Oh! Finally, you confessed your most inner belief on relativity, 
> >> 
> >> Notwithstanding, you accused me of being an ignorant crank, a science retrograde, etc, 
> >> 
> >> Take it back! 
> > I guess whodat just believes in it without knowing anything about it!
> Seems like most of what you write is guesswork. I haven't seen you 
> provide anything significant yet.
I'm afraid I have no use for a consultant.

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#614242

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 21:11 -0700
Message-ID<41e1e84f-59ea-4ef8-9c87-6c3f0f0566fdn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614241
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 12:14:08 AM UTC-3, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

<snip>

> I'm afraid I have no use for a consultant.

You can use a consultant in the fields of astronomy/cosmology to answer this simple question:

Why a 1897 Newcomb's calculation of missing 43"/century in Mercury's perihelion advance, which seemed to be
reasonable in 1915, was certified by Clemence in 1947, and STILL is being used as the landmark of GR 127 years after, when:

1) Masses of known planets had a significant difference with modern values. For instance, the mass of Mercury was estimated
as being 2/3 of current value, with an error of +/- 50%!. NOTE: Newcomb used the current value PLUS 50% MORE MASS in 1895.

https://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1980QJRAS..21..400L

2) When the size and mass of the Milky Way was unknown, when Pluto was discovered ob Feb. 1930, and the main efforts 
to determine solar oblateness were done after 1917. All these unknowns greatly decrement the missing value for Mercury,
well below 43", as the total contributions increased above 530" for a calculated total of 573" +/- 2" (Clemence, 1947).

3) What is the deal with the 43"/cy erroneously calculated by Einstein in his 1915 paper? Why is it sacred?
His equation (13) ε = + 3π α/[a (1 – e²)] , with α = 2GM/c², contains an error of +1% with respect to 2023 values.

The total error, as of today calculations, exceed +0.43" + 0.5" > 0.93"/century. So, 43" are really lower than 42.1".
And still, this value IS CALCULATED, not MEASURED.

Maybe, a good consultant can earn his money if honest. Pay even more money if he dares to publish his research.

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#614247

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-02 00:46 -0400
Message-ID<u7qvel$37rkg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614242
On 7/2/2023 12:11 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:

> The total error, as of today calculations, exceed +0.43" + 0.5" > 0.93"/century. So, 43" are really lower than 42.1".

oooh, you found a total error of more than 2%! The magical 43"/century 
doesn't bring the total predicted value difference to exactly 0! Must be 
because the error in the mass estimates of planets, Pluto and the Milky 
Way itself!

Hint: If Newtonian mechanics was sufficient by itself, there would be no 
43"/century difference, nor a 42.1"/century difference, it would be 0"!

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#614248

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 22:13 -0700
Message-ID<075b78d6-94c6-46d2-9ef5-0a9e70e691e8n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614247
On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 06:46:16 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 7/2/2023 12:11 AM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> 
> > The total error, as of today calculations, exceed +0.43" + 0.5" > 0.93"/century. So, 43" are really lower than 42.1".
> oooh, you found a total error of more than 2%! The magical 43"/century 
> doesn't bring the total predicted value difference to exactly 0! Must be 
> because the error in the mass estimates of planets, Pluto and the Milky 
> Way itself! 
> 
> Hint: If Newtonian mechanics was sufficient by itself, there would be no 
> 43"/century difference, nor a 42.1"/century difference, it would be 0"!

Can't you even distinguish between Newtonian
mechanics and Newtonian gravity, stupid Mike?

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#614262

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 07:27 -0700
Message-ID<2346c378-eeb5-4f39-952b-a713d96d93ben@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614247
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 1:46:16 AM UTC-3, Volney wrote:

<snip>

> oooh, you found a total error of more than 2%! The magical 43"/century 
> doesn't bring the total predicted value difference to exactly 0! Must be 
> because the error in the mass estimates of planets, Pluto and the Milky 
> Way itself! 
> 
> Hint: If Newtonian mechanics was sufficient by itself, there would be no 
> 43"/century difference, nor a 42.1"/century difference, it would be 0"!

Shill!  Newtonian precession exists on every planet in the Solar System, and is known with good accuracy!

It's like what happens with your head spinning along with your body axis when you come out of the "happy bar", heavily drunk.

I think that the missing factor in the Mercury's calculation of its precession is due to the UNKNOWN behavior of the
layered composition of matter within the Sun, as close to Mercury as you're from the door of the "happy bar", when you start
spinning being drunk at the gate: "What to do? Go home or take another? Stop the world!

Who in the hell know what's going on into your head, at those moments in the dawn?

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#614267

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-07-02 12:07 -0400
Message-ID<u7s7bj$3btlk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614262
On 7/2/2023 10:27 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 1:46:16 AM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> oooh, you found a total error of more than 2%! The magical 43"/century
>> doesn't bring the total predicted value difference to exactly 0! Must be
>> because the error in the mass estimates of planets, Pluto and the Milky
>> Way itself!
>>
>> Hint: If Newtonian mechanics was sufficient by itself, there would be no
>> 43"/century difference, nor a 42.1"/century difference, it would be 0"!
> 
> Shill!  Newtonian precession exists on every planet in the Solar System, and is known with good accuracy!

That's right! Once you add up all the Newtonian causes of precession on 
Mercury and subtract it from the observed value, there's a difference of 
43"/century. Or perhaps 42.1"/century, if your claim can be trusted (a 
VERY questionable claim)

> I think that the missing factor in the Mercury's calculation of its precession is due to the UNKNOWN behavior of the
> layered composition of matter within the Sun,

Nobody cares what you think. Real scientists think the difference is due 
to GR's effect on the orbital precession. Since GR is 100+ year old with 
no contradictions, GR is essentially settled science to scientists, 
while the whining crackpots such as yourself are ignored.

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#614270

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 09:34 -0700
Message-ID<894ef5f5-d2df-4489-a81d-8ef61eddcf54n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614267
On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 18:07:19 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 7/2/2023 10:27 AM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 1:46:16 AM UTC-3, Volney wrote: 
> > 
> > <snip> 
> > 
> >> oooh, you found a total error of more than 2%! The magical 43"/century 
> >> doesn't bring the total predicted value difference to exactly 0! Must be 
> >> because the error in the mass estimates of planets, Pluto and the Milky 
> >> Way itself! 
> >> 
> >> Hint: If Newtonian mechanics was sufficient by itself, there would be no 
> >> 43"/century difference, nor a 42.1"/century difference, it would be 0"! 
> > 
> > Shill! Newtonian precession exists on every planet in the Solar System, and is known with good accuracy!
> That's right! Once you add up all the Newtonian causes of precession on 
> Mercury and subtract it from the observed value, there's a difference of 
> 43"/century. Or perhaps 42.1"/century, if your claim can be trusted (a 
> VERY questionable claim)
> > I think that the missing factor in the Mercury's calculation of its precession is due to the UNKNOWN behavior of the 
> > layered composition of matter within the Sun,
> Nobody cares what you think. Real scientists think the difference is due 
> to GR's effect on the orbital precession. Since GR is 100+ year old with 
> no contradictions, GR is essentially settled science to scientists, 

but in the meantime in the real world, forbidden
by your bunch of idiots improper cllocks keep
measuring improper t'=t in improper seconds.

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#614274

FromPython <python@invalid.org>
Date2023-07-02 19:06 +0200
Message-ID<u7sarf$3c5fv$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614270
Braindead idiot Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> ... improper cllocks keep measuring ...

serrious cllocks or funnny cllocks?


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#614276

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 10:09 -0700
Message-ID<03073237-945b-4832-b198-2ecd3e7d85bdn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614274
On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 19:08:10 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> Braindead idiot Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > ... improper cllocks keep measuring ... 
> 
> serrious cllocks or funnny cllocks?


Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
and trying again to pretend he knows something.
Tell me, poor stinker, have you already read 
definition 9 and learnt what a function is?

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#614302

FromPython <python@invalid.org>
Date2023-07-03 01:47 +0200
Message-ID<u7t2b5$3eqqt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#614276
Demented Polish Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 19:08:10 UTC+2, Python wrote:
>> Braindead idiot Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> ... improper cllocks keep measuring ...
>>
>> serrious cllocks or funnny cllocks?
> 
> 
> Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,

You didn't answer my serrrious question.

> and trying again to pretend he knows something.
> Tell me, poor stinker, have you already read
> definition 9 and learnt what a function is?

Still struggling with that? Sad...



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#614317

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 20:57 -0700
Message-ID<a8e15cdf-0f8b-4ba3-8c42-1d0100c0c377n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614302
On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 01:47:52 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> Demented Polish Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 19:08:10 UTC+2, Python wrote: 
> >> Braindead idiot Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> >>> ... improper cllocks keep measuring ... 
> >> 
> >> serrious cllocks or funnny cllocks? 
> > 
> > 
> > Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
> You didn't answer my serrrious question.

Neither you did mine.

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#614282

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-02 11:13 -0700
Message-ID<a08b2ce0-de2d-422e-bfa5-df04a4b97a49n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614247
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:46:16 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 7/2/2023 12:11 AM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> 
> > The total error, as of today calculations, exceed +0.43" + 0.5" > 0.93"/century. So, 43" are really lower than 42.1".
> oooh, you found a total error of more than 2%! The magical 43"/century 
> doesn't bring the total predicted value difference to exactly 0! Must be 
> because the error in the mass estimates of planets, Pluto and the Milky 
> Way itself! 
> 
> Hint: If Newtonian mechanics was sufficient by itself, there would be no 
> 43"/century difference, nor a 42.1"/century difference, it would be 0"!
It is zero.

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