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How do you tell who's telling the truth?

Started byLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
First post2023-06-26 12:45 -0700
Last post2023-07-03 12:27 -0700
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  How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-26 12:45 -0700
    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 09:05 -0700
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 09:39 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 11:26 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 11:50 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-28 17:55 -0500
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-28 23:04 +0000
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 16:15 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-28 18:51 -0500
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 17:54 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 09:06 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 12:58 -0500
                      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 11:39 -0700
                        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 14:21 -0500
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 16:20 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-28 16:27 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 09:25 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 11:28 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 13:52 -0500
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:06 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:19 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 16:47 -0500
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-29 14:38 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-29 16:46 -0500
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-29 21:17 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:22 -0700
    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 10:52 -0700
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 13:51 -0500
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 12:07 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 12:15 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 17:49 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:12 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:20 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:38 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 22:51 -0500
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:55 -0700
                      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 04:24 -0500
                        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:11 -0700
                          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 13:22 -0500
                            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:34 -0700
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:56 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:59 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:00 -0700
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 14:25 -0500
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 00:33 -0400
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 21:42 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Barry Schenck <ccsc@ebrrccrh.bc> - 2023-07-02 12:30 +0000
                          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:40 -0700
                            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:00 -0700
                            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-01 14:39 -0500
                              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:53 -0700
                                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 13:07 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:03 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-30 22:48 -0500
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:51 +0200
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-30 20:53 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:01 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:04 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:05 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 11:52 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:01 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-01 12:30 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 10:29 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-07-03 13:31 +0200
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 09:47 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-07-05 08:31 +0200
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Stoney Karkampasis <ttas@opiariam.ka> - 2023-07-05 18:00 +0000
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-03 11:10 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-03 11:11 -0700
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:48 +0200
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 03:01 -0700
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 12:55 +0200
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 04:26 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 23:12 -0400
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 20:13 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-02 23:24 -0400
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Hassell Chrysanthopoulos <rhss@lypnahhu.yh> - 2023-07-03 09:38 +0000
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-03 14:28 -0400
                      Re: How do you tell who Selvin Pappayiorgas <aasi@igesepap.on> - 2023-07-03 19:50 +0000
                    Re: How do you tell who's Barney Papadelias <bldb@yayaasnr.ia> - 2023-07-03 19:28 +0000
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 22:26 -0500
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 21:02 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 21:27 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 21:47 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 20:59 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-03 14:34 -0400
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 12:23 -0700
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-07-02 12:28 +0200
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 09:32 -0500
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 08:15 -0700
            Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:39 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 10:51 -0700
              Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 11:23 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 13:21 -0700
                  Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 13:28 -0700
                    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 14:47 -0700
                Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-02 14:47 -0700
                  Off the Rails (was Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth?) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-02 17:01 -0500
    Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 20:47 +0200
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-03 21:01 +0200
        Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@wanadou.fr> - 2023-07-03 19:06 +0000
          Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-07-03 21:09 +0200
      Re: How do you tell who's telling the truth? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-03 12:27 -0700

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#614059

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-29 14:19 -0700
Message-ID<8e8d5782-4330-4478-8cc5-b2bcb168e2fcn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614058
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 2:06:35 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:05:24 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > The ones trying to silence the others are lying 
> 
> > It is the relativists who are trying to silence their opponents.
> No, it only seems that way to people who don't want to do honest work. 
> 
> One fact of life is that an ignoramus cannot distinguish between his 
> own incompetence and that of his opponent. This is very characteristic. 
> And if the person is also more arrogant than average, all bets are off. 
> 
> -- 
> Jan
If such mud-slinging is not an attempt to silence opponents, what is?

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#614065

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-29 16:47 -0500
Message-ID<kg6cfsFl988U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614059
On 6/29/2023 4:19 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 2:06:35 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:05:24 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
>>
>>> It is the relativists who are trying to silence their opponents.
>> No, it only seems that way to people who don't want to do honest work.
>>
>> One fact of life is that an ignoramus cannot distinguish between his
>> own incompetence and that of his opponent. This is very characteristic.
>> And if the person is also more arrogant than average, all bets are off.
>>
>> -- 
>> Jan
> If such mud-slinging is not an attempt to silence opponents, what is?

Mirror mirror on the wall...

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#614062

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-29 14:38 -0700
Message-ID<844a0902-fe09-4222-92d2-1fa809b33dcen@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614058
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 2:06:35 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:05:24 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > The ones trying to silence the others are lying 
> 
> > It is the relativists who are trying to silence their opponents.
> No, it only seems that way to people who don't want to do honest work. 
> 
> One fact of life is that an ignoramus cannot distinguish between his 
> own incompetence and that of his opponent. This is very characteristic. 
> And if the person is also more arrogant than average, all bets are off. 
> 
> -- 
> Jan
Such chest-beating!

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#614064

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-29 16:46 -0500
Message-ID<kg6cefFl988U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614058
On 6/29/2023 4:06 PM, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:05:24 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
> 
>> It is the relativists who are trying to silence their opponents.
> 
> No, it only seems that way to people who don't want to do honest work.
> 
> One fact of life is that an ignoramus cannot distinguish between his
> own incompetence and that of his opponent. This is very characteristic.
> And if the person is also more arrogant than average, all bets are off.

Nicely put.

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#614105

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-29 21:17 -0700
Message-ID<cb45356a-1c60-45e9-a495-4acf415fcb6fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614058
On Thursday, 29 June 2023 at 23:06:35 UTC+2, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:05:24 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > The ones trying to silence the others are lying 
> 
> > It is the relativists who are trying to silence their opponents.
> No, it only seems that way to people who don't want to do honest work. 
> 
> One fact of life is that an ignoramus cannot distinguish between his 
> own incompetence and that of his opponent. This is very characteristic. 

For sure you can't, poor halfbrain.

> And if the person is also more arrogant than average, all bets are off. 

That's right too.

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#614201

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 10:22 -0700
Message-ID<b41ce0fc-03ab-4bbf-80ea-384d43c05bban@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614105
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 June 2023 at 23:06:35 UTC+2, JanPB wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:05:24 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > The ones trying to silence the others are lying 
> > 
> > > It is the relativists who are trying to silence their opponents. 
> > No, it only seems that way to people who don't want to do honest work. 
> > 
> > One fact of life is that an ignoramus cannot distinguish between his 
> > own incompetence and that of his opponent. This is very characteristic.
> For sure you can't, poor halfbrain.
> > And if the person is also more arrogant than average, all bets are off.
> That's right too.
Do you ever get the impression the relativists are territorial?

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#614145

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-30 10:52 -0700
Message-ID<d7287875-91a1-47c8-9112-bf65973dbd5fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613792
On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are lying. 
B. Relativists censor their opponents. 
C. Therefore, relativity is a lie.
Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion group.

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#614148

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-30 13:51 -0500
Message-ID<kg8miaF1qsbU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614145
On 6/30/2023 12:52 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> The ones trying to silence the others are lying
> A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are lying.
> B. Relativists censor their opponents.
> C. Therefore, relativity is a lie.
> Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion group.

Running low on meds?

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#614149

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-30 12:07 -0700
Message-ID<70b9c598-2a24-4aec-937b-a3bd853c3795n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614145
On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 10:52:19 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > The ones trying to silence the others are lying
> A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are lying. 

Is that not the scientific equivalence of Biden's politics.
The one at the top is making things happen.
Biden has flunked out america and we are
supposed to buy it... He said he doesn't intend to do
anything different...  in his failed economy.

> B. Relativists censor their opponents. 
> C. Therefore, relativity is a lie. 
> Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion group.

NASA will be known as a liar.

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#614150

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-30 12:15 -0700
Message-ID<1fffb466-c922-44fd-929b-4a85d8595dcen@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614149
On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:07:03 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 10:52:19 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > The ones trying to silence the others are lying 
> > A. The proponents of a scientific theory who censor others are lying.
> Is that not the scientific equivalence of Biden's politics. 
> The one at the top is making things happen. 
> Biden has flunked out america and we are 
> supposed to buy it... He said he doesn't intend to do 
> anything different... in his failed economy.
> > B. Relativists censor their opponents. 
> > C. Therefore, relativity is a lie. 
> > Evidence: the behavior of relativists in this discussion group.
> NASA will be known as a liar.
Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. I don't know that they censor opponents. There are a lot of critics of AGW.

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#614162

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-30 17:49 -0700
Message-ID<0432a2cb-c989-4e95-87ff-542e34a85d20n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614150
On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact.

Please present your evidence for this claim.

I do believe that you are full of shit. Evidence rules... got any?

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#614172

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-30 20:12 -0700
Message-ID<6dca412b-af24-450f-b213-8e2dce401b7fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614162
On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:49:18 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> 
> > Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact.
> Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> 
> I do believe that you are full of shit. Evidence rules... got any?
Look it up yourself. Don't be lazy.

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#614173

FromProkaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-30 20:20 -0700
Message-ID<b31c3386-c9e3-42ee-94e6-7510073f4f60n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614172
On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 10:12:55 PM UTC-5, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:49:18 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> > > Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. 
> > Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> > 
> > I do believe that you are full of shit. Evidence rules... got any?
> Look it up yourself. Don't be lazy.

You could be using insane conspiracy theory websites 
as your primary source of information, for all we know.
      *** PROVIDE YOUR SOURCES ***

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#614175

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-30 20:38 -0700
Message-ID<9090a90d-e687-4697-8521-190321eed78en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614173
On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:20:02 PM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Capase Homolog wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 10:12:55 PM UTC-5, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:49:18 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. 
> > > Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> > > 
> > > I do believe that you are full of shit. Evidence rules... got any? 
> > Look it up yourself. Don't be lazy.
> You could be using insane conspiracy theory websites 
> as your primary source of information, for all we know. 
> *** PROVIDE YOUR SOURCES ***
Get off your own asses!

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#614179

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-30 22:51 -0500
Message-ID<kg9m74F6a1uU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614175
On 6/30/2023 10:38 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:20:02 PM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Capase Homolog wrote:
>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 10:12:55 PM UTC-5, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:49:18 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact.
>>>> Please present your evidence for this claim.
>>>>
>>>> I do believe that you are full of shit. Evidence rules... got any?
>>> Look it up yourself. Don't be lazy.
>> You could be using insane conspiracy theory websites
>> as your primary source of information, for all we know.
>> *** PROVIDE YOUR SOURCES ***
> Get off your own asses!

He (or she) who lays a claim is required to defend it. Failure to defend
is admission of falseness.

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#614181

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-30 20:55 -0700
Message-ID<728f2afc-fb9b-45c8-a9bd-ca512003c7c2n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614179
On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:52:08 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 6/30/2023 10:38 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:20:02 PM UTC-7, Prokaryotic Capase Homolog wrote: 
> >> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 10:12:55 PM UTC-5, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:49:18 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> >>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Politics involves ideology. When it comes to climate, NASA does falsify the data. That is an established fact. 
> >>>> Please present your evidence for this claim. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I do believe that you are full of shit. Evidence rules... got any? 
> >>> Look it up yourself. Don't be lazy. 
> >> You could be using insane conspiracy theory websites 
> >> as your primary source of information, for all we know. 
> >> *** PROVIDE YOUR SOURCES *** 
> > Get off your own asses!
> He (or she) who lays a claim is required to defend it. Failure to defend 
> is admission of falseness.
You never listen so you never learn. You don't qualify for a debate, so you can't make demands. This is a discussion forum not a debate.

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#614185

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-01 04:24 -0500
Message-ID<kga9m7F915kU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614181
On 6/30/2023 10:55 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:52:08 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:

>> He (or she) who lays a claim is required to defend it. Failure to defend
>> is admission of falseness.

> You never listen so you never learn. You don't qualify for a debate, so you can't make demands. This is a discussion forum not a debate.

Although it appears that English is your first language you've made it
clear on more than one occasion that you have poor mastery of it.

"Britannica Dictionary definition of DEBATE

": a discussion between people in which they express different opinions
about something

"◊ A debate can be an organized event, an informal discussion between
two or more people, or a general discussion that involves many people."

<https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/debate#:~:text=Britannica%20Dictionary%20definition%20of%20DEBATE,discussion%20that%20involves%20many%20people.>

Secondly, as this forum can be and is the basis for this "debate"
thus the only qualification is participation. You are out of order in
so many ways it boggles the mind. You cannot impose rules that
weren't extant before you chose to participate. When you chose
to participate you accepted the charter that created this
newsgroup. If you demand a different set of rules, petition
for and start a different newsgroup. Otherwise live with what's
already here.

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#614206

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 11:11 -0700
Message-ID<1f4e8c7c-f631-4bd9-9c58-6cd344491173n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614185
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 2:24:26 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 6/30/2023 10:55 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:52:08 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> 
> >> He (or she) who lays a claim is required to defend it. Failure to defend 
> >> is admission of falseness. 
> 
> > You never listen so you never learn. You don't qualify for a debate, so you can't make demands. This is a discussion forum not a debate.
> Although it appears that English is your first language you've made it 
> clear on more than one occasion that you have poor mastery of it. 
> 
> "Britannica Dictionary definition of DEBATE 
> 
> ": a discussion between people in which they express different opinions 
> about something 
> 
> "◊ A debate can be an organized event, an informal discussion between 
> two or more people, or a general discussion that involves many people." 
> 
> <https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/debate#:~:text=Britannica%20Dictionary%20definition%20of%20DEBATE,discussion%20that%20involves%20many%20people.> 
> 
> Secondly, as this forum can be and is the basis for this "debate" 
> thus the only qualification is participation. You are out of order in 
> so many ways it boggles the mind. You cannot impose rules that 
> weren't extant before you chose to participate. When you chose 
> to participate you accepted the charter that created this 
> newsgroup. If you demand a different set of rules, petition 
> for and start a different newsgroup. Otherwise live with what's 
> already here.
You know you are a very painstaking kind of guy. You don't realize how easy it is to refute relativity. It's not a science. It is really an ideology. Elementary logic and science are sufficient. I recommend you read "A Big Howler- Einstein's Theory of Relativity" by Dr. Paul S. Gulati. I'm reading it right now.

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#614207

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-07-01 13:22 -0500
Message-ID<kgb96tFdfr6U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#614206
On 7/1/2023 1:11 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 2:24:26 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 6/30/2023 10:55 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:52:08 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>>
>>>> He (or she) who lays a claim is required to defend it. Failure to defend
>>>> is admission of falseness.
>>
>>> You never listen so you never learn. You don't qualify for a debate, so you can't make demands. This is a discussion forum not a debate.
>> Although it appears that English is your first language you've made it
>> clear on more than one occasion that you have poor mastery of it.
>>
>> "Britannica Dictionary definition of DEBATE
>>
>> ": a discussion between people in which they express different opinions
>> about something
>>
>> "◊ A debate can be an organized event, an informal discussion between
>> two or more people, or a general discussion that involves many people."
>>
>> <https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/debate#:~:text=Britannica%20Dictionary%20definition%20of%20DEBATE,discussion%20that%20involves%20many%20people.>
>>
>> Secondly, as this forum can be and is the basis for this "debate"
>> thus the only qualification is participation. You are out of order in
>> so many ways it boggles the mind. You cannot impose rules that
>> weren't extant before you chose to participate. When you chose
>> to participate you accepted the charter that created this
>> newsgroup. If you demand a different set of rules, petition
>> for and start a different newsgroup. Otherwise live with what's
>> already here.

> You know you are a very painstaking kind of guy. You don't realize how easy it is to refute relativity. It's not a science. It is really an ideology. Elementary logic and science are sufficient. I recommend you read "A Big Howler- Einstein's Theory of Relativity" by Dr. Paul S. Gulati. I'm reading it right now.

"You know" I'm really not worried whether relativity stands or falls.

I care about what appears to work.

When something better comes along and is accepted by science I'll
jump aboard. That relativity hangs on so strongly is a sign, to
me, of its validity. I won't be upset if you manage to break its
stranglehold, but you're not there yet.

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#614208

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-07-01 11:34 -0700
Message-ID<0a5f8efd-6d6f-45d8-9323-f7b319244a61n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#614207
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 11:22:26 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 7/1/2023 1:11 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 2:24:26 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >> On 6/30/2023 10:55 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:52:08 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >> 
> >>>> He (or she) who lays a claim is required to defend it. Failure to defend 
> >>>> is admission of falseness. 
> >> 
> >>> You never listen so you never learn. You don't qualify for a debate, so you can't make demands. This is a discussion forum not a debate. 
> >> Although it appears that English is your first language you've made it 
> >> clear on more than one occasion that you have poor mastery of it. 
> >> 
> >> "Britannica Dictionary definition of DEBATE 
> >> 
> >> ": a discussion between people in which they express different opinions 
> >> about something 
> >> 
> >> "◊ A debate can be an organized event, an informal discussion between 
> >> two or more people, or a general discussion that involves many people." 
> >> 
> >> <https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/debate#:~:text=Britannica%20Dictionary%20definition%20of%20DEBATE,discussion%20that%20involves%20many%20people.> 
> >> 
> >> Secondly, as this forum can be and is the basis for this "debate" 
> >> thus the only qualification is participation. You are out of order in 
> >> so many ways it boggles the mind. You cannot impose rules that 
> >> weren't extant before you chose to participate. When you chose 
> >> to participate you accepted the charter that created this 
> >> newsgroup. If you demand a different set of rules, petition 
> >> for and start a different newsgroup. Otherwise live with what's 
> >> already here. 
> 
> > You know you are a very painstaking kind of guy. You don't realize how easy it is to refute relativity. It's not a science. It is really an ideology. Elementary logic and science are sufficient. I recommend you read "A Big Howler- Einstein's Theory of Relativity" by Dr. Paul S. Gulati. I'm reading it right now.
> "You know" I'm really not worried whether relativity stands or falls. 
> 
> I care about what appears to work. 
> 
> When something better comes along and is accepted by science I'll 
> jump aboard. That relativity hangs on so strongly is a sign, to 
> me, of its validity. I won't be upset if you manage to break its 
> stranglehold, but you're not there yet.
You don't understand relativity doesn't work. Didn't you ever listen to Richard Hertz? Relativity is an irrational paradigm. Tyrants hang on without any justification. I don't need to break its stranglehold on you. I recommend you read: Relativity A Scientific Blunder.

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