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Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light

Started byLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
First post2023-06-20 15:51 -0700
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  Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 15:51 -0700
    Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-20 18:24 -0500
      Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 16:33 -0700
        Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-20 19:55 -0500
          Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 18:03 -0700
        Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-06-21 10:11 -0500
          Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 10:11 -0700
          Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-21 10:50 -0700
            Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-21 13:24 -0500
              Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-21 11:38 -0700
                Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-21 13:46 -0500
                  Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-21 15:51 -0700
                    Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-21 19:55 -0500
    Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 12:02 -0700
      Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-21 15:54 -0700
        Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 16:38 -0700
        Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-21 19:59 -0500
          Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 17:25 -0700
            Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 10:47 -0700
              Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-23 13:43 -0500
                Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-23 12:09 -0700
                Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Dustin Hassel <sald@sshsesnn.lh> - 2023-06-23 21:03 +0000
                  Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-23 21:41 -0400
                    Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Mitch Bueren <heeh@iibteeht.nc> - 2023-06-24 19:37 +0000
                  Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Bobauk Klein <bube@klkkaakk.nn> - 2023-06-24 19:58 +0000
                    Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Merrill Daal <lill@illlllle.ee> - 2023-06-25 19:27 +0000
                      Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 09:49 -0700
            Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 19:51 -0700
    Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-06-21 15:21 -0700
      Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-21 15:55 -0700
        Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 16:41 -0700
    Re: Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 11:51 -0700

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#613340 — Black Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-20 15:51 -0700
SubjectBlack Holes Prove Speed of Gravity is Faster than Light
Message-ID<a060b17f-d1c2-4bd4-8b23-94b9977559fbn@googlegroups.com>
If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself.

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#613342

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-20 18:24 -0500
Message-ID<kfeqpfF1lr6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#613340
On 6/20/2023 5:51 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself.

Are you drunk?

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#613344

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-20 16:33 -0700
Message-ID<b969b734-2393-4909-be1c-29722f753572n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613342
On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:24:35 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 6/20/2023 5:51 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself.
> Are you drunk?
The referent is "black holes." "If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would not be able to attract anything into themselves. Do you have any comprehension of context?

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#613346

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-20 19:55 -0500
Message-ID<kff04tF2biaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#613344
On 6/20/2023 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:24:35 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 6/20/2023 5:51 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself.
>> Are you drunk?
> The referent is "black holes.

That's not what your posting said. It was simply a flat declaration
with no substance. In fact it has "Jane" characteristics of declaration
with no foundation or support. That's not on a path for progress.

If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would 
not be able to attract anything into themselves. Do you have any 
comprehension of context?

Clearly you don't understand the previously well demonstrated
relationships among gravity, light, and space. You will discover,
learn, and discuss them in keeping with current theory if/when you
are ready. It is possible, indeed likely, that advances will
eventually be made, however you haven't made any here.

Based on your declarations, there's nothing here to interest my
further involvement at this time. Don't let that stop you. Enjoy.

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#613347

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-20 18:03 -0700
Message-ID<dfa1ce12-1ec8-445f-b940-d9b07bb57f50n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613346
On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 5:56:01 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 6/20/2023 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:24:35 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >> On 6/20/2023 5:51 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>> If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself. 
> >> Are you drunk? 
> > The referent is "black holes.
> That's not what your posting said. It was simply a flat declaration 
> with no substance. In fact it has "Jane" characteristics of declaration 
> with no foundation or support. That's not on a path for progress.
> If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would 
> not be able to attract anything into themselves. Do you have any 
> comprehension of context?
> Clearly you don't understand the previously well demonstrated 
> relationships among gravity, light, and space. You will discover, 
> learn, and discuss them in keeping with current theory if/when you 
> are ready. It is possible, indeed likely, that advances will 
> eventually be made, however you haven't made any here. 
> 
> Based on your declarations, there's nothing here to interest my 
> further involvement at this time. Don't let that stop you. Enjoy.
Goodness gracious!

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#613373

FromTom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2023-06-21 10:11 -0500
Message-ID<NKecnc8XibGljg75nZ2dnZfqlJ9j4p2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#613344
On 6/20/23 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would
> not be able to attract anything into themselves.

This is just plain wrong.

Just making stuff up and pretending it is true is HOPELESS. You clearly 
do not understand very basic GR, or the geometry of black hole 
manifolds. You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before 
attempting to write about it.

Tom Roberts

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#613384

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-21 10:11 -0700
Message-ID<b6f222b1-b61c-407d-9691-3494b09839a7n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613373
On Wednesday, 21 June 2023 at 17:11:59 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 6/20/23 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would 
> > not be able to attract anything into themselves.
> This is just plain wrong. 
> 
> Just making stuff up and pretending it is true is HOPELESS. You clearly 
> do not understand very basic GR, or the geometry of black hole 
> manifolds. You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before 
> attempting to write about it. 

You REALLY need to learn that we're FORCED!!!
To THE BEST WAY!!!

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#613389

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-21 10:50 -0700
Message-ID<ac7db996-36a0-4a7c-a34f-efce503e3561n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613373
On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 8:11:59 AM UTC-7, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 6/20/23 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would 
> > not be able to attract anything into themselves.
> This is just plain wrong. 
> 
> Just making stuff up and pretending it is true is HOPELESS. You clearly 
> do not understand very basic GR, or the geometry of black hole 
> manifolds. You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before 
> attempting to write about it. 
> 
> Tom Roberts
Who said I was speaking about GR? Besides, Feynman said the geometrical explanation of gravity in GR "is not necessary or essential to physics." The idea of a black hole is not relativity. It was known long before. It is relativity that makes things up because it uses ad hoc reasoning. Black hole manifolds are sheer hair-brain nonsense.

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#613395

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-21 13:24 -0500
Message-ID<kfgtirFbkppU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#613389
On 6/21/2023 12:50 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 8:11:59 AM UTC-7, Tom Roberts wrote:
>> On 6/20/23 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would
>>> not be able to attract anything into themselves.
>> This is just plain wrong.
>>
>> Just making stuff up and pretending it is true is HOPELESS. You clearly
>> do not understand very basic GR, or the geometry of black hole
>> manifolds. You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before
>> attempting to write about it.
>>
>> Tom Roberts
> Who said I was speaking about GR? Besides, Feynman said the geometrical explanation of gravity in GR "is not necessary or essential to physics." The idea of a black hole is not relativity. It was known long before. It is relativity that makes things up because it uses ad hoc reasoning. Black hole manifolds are sheer hair-brain nonsense.

There's a reason it is called "hare brained."

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#613397

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-21 11:38 -0700
Message-ID<0584d8f0-b1dc-4d8f-a127-43dcdfade703n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613395
On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 11:24:31 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 6/21/2023 12:50 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 8:11:59 AM UTC-7, Tom Roberts wrote: 
> >> On 6/20/23 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>> If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would 
> >>> not be able to attract anything into themselves. 
> >> This is just plain wrong. 
> >> 
> >> Just making stuff up and pretending it is true is HOPELESS. You clearly 
> >> do not understand very basic GR, or the geometry of black hole 
> >> manifolds. You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before 
> >> attempting to write about it. 
> >> 
> >> Tom Roberts 
> > Who said I was speaking about GR? Besides, Feynman said the geometrical explanation of gravity in GR "is not necessary or essential to physics." The idea of a black hole is not relativity. It was known long before. It is relativity that makes things up because it uses ad hoc reasoning. Black hole manifolds are sheer hair-brain nonsense.
> There's a reason it is called "hare brained."
Same difference.

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#613400

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-21 13:46 -0500
Message-ID<kfgurkFbkppU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#613397
On 6/21/2023 1:38 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 11:24:31 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 6/21/2023 12:50 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 8:11:59 AM UTC-7, Tom Roberts wrote:
>>>> On 6/20/23 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>> If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would
>>>>> not be able to attract anything into themselves.
>>>> This is just plain wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Just making stuff up and pretending it is true is HOPELESS. You clearly
>>>> do not understand very basic GR, or the geometry of black hole
>>>> manifolds. You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before
>>>> attempting to write about it.
>>>>
>>>> Tom Roberts
>>> Who said I was speaking about GR? Besides, Feynman said the geometrical explanation of gravity in GR "is not necessary or essential to physics." The idea of a black hole is not relativity. It was known long before. It is relativity that makes things up because it uses ad hoc reasoning. Black hole manifolds are sheer hair-brain nonsense.
>> There's a reason it is called "hare brained."
> Same difference.

No wonder you have trouble with science.

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#613412

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-21 15:51 -0700
Message-ID<83da8891-3235-4b88-a3c0-1ad978575233n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613400
On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 11:46:16 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 6/21/2023 1:38 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 11:24:31 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >> On 6/21/2023 12:50 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 8:11:59 AM UTC-7, Tom Roberts wrote: 
> >>>> On 6/20/23 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>>>> If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would 
> >>>>> not be able to attract anything into themselves. 
> >>>> This is just plain wrong. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Just making stuff up and pretending it is true is HOPELESS. You clearly 
> >>>> do not understand very basic GR, or the geometry of black hole 
> >>>> manifolds. You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before 
> >>>> attempting to write about it. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Tom Roberts 
> >>> Who said I was speaking about GR? Besides, Feynman said the geometrical explanation of gravity in GR "is not necessary or essential to physics." The idea of a black hole is not relativity. It was known long before. It is relativity that makes things up because it uses ad hoc reasoning. Black hole manifolds are sheer hair-brain nonsense. 
> >> There's a reason it is called "hare brained." 
> > Same difference.
> No wonder you have trouble with science.
A rabbits' brain is larger than the hair's breadth of a relativist's brain.

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#613427

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-21 19:55 -0500
Message-ID<kfhkfoFf11mU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#613412
On 6/21/2023 5:51 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 11:46:16 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 6/21/2023 1:38 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 11:24:31 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>>>> On 6/21/2023 12:50 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 8:11:59 AM UTC-7, Tom Roberts wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/20/23 6:33 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>>>> If the speed of gravity were not faster than light, black holes would
>>>>>>> not be able to attract anything into themselves.
>>>>>> This is just plain wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just making stuff up and pretending it is true is HOPELESS. You clearly
>>>>>> do not understand very basic GR, or the geometry of black hole
>>>>>> manifolds. You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before
>>>>>> attempting to write about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Roberts
>>>>> Who said I was speaking about GR? Besides, Feynman said the geometrical explanation of gravity in GR "is not necessary or essential to physics." The idea of a black hole is not relativity. It was known long before. It is relativity that makes things up because it uses ad hoc reasoning. Black hole manifolds are sheer hair-brain nonsense.
>>>> There's a reason it is called "hare brained."
>>> Same difference.
>> No wonder you have trouble with science.
> A rabbits' brain is larger than the hair's breadth of a relativist's brain.

Cleverness with words garners no points. Sorry.

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#613402

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-21 12:02 -0700
Message-ID<e2652c12-fcbf-4628-a307-caaf50034bd8n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613340
On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 3:51:44 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself.

If gravity is everywhere it does not need to act FTL.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#613413

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-21 15:54 -0700
Message-ID<07ba4c01-b7f5-4ecf-8c04-e29cd1459fc3n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613402
On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 12:02:02 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 3:51:44 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself.
> If gravity is everywhere it does not need to act FTL. 
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
Gravity is obviously not and cannot be everywhere from any one source due to the inverse square law.

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#613419

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-21 16:38 -0700
Message-ID<u701kq$31mv2$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#613413
On 6/21/2023 3:54 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 12:02:02 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 3:51:44 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself.
>> If gravity is everywhere it does not need to act FTL.
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> Gravity is obviously not and cannot be everywhere from any one source due to the inverse square law.

It just might ripple out getting infinitesimally small, but never 
reaching zero?

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#613428

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-21 19:59 -0500
Message-ID<kfhkngFf11mU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#613413
On 6/21/2023 5:54 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 12:02:02 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 3:51:44 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself.
>> If gravity is everywhere it does not need to act FTL.
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> Gravity is obviously not and cannot be everywhere from any one source due to the inverse square law.

Obviously it is everywhere. Banerjee acquires a point in this and you 
have to appreciate how badly I feel having to accept that fact.

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#613502

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-22 17:25 -0700
Message-ID<aad9cdf1-becd-4c90-88db-d908c7f30865n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613428
On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 5:59:31 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 6/21/2023 5:54 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 12:02:02 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 3:51:44 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>> If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself. 
> >> If gravity is everywhere it does not need to act FTL. 
> >> 
> >> Mitchell Raemsch 
> > Gravity is obviously not and cannot be everywhere from any one source due to the inverse square law.
> Obviously it is everywhere. Banerjee acquires a point in this and you 
> have to appreciate how badly I feel having to accept that fact.

Gravity moves with a source.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#613548

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-23 10:47 -0700
Message-ID<a7546487-eae0-4d97-afe9-98bb1357b926n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613502
On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 5:25:47 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 5:59:31 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> > On 6/21/2023 5:54 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 12:02:02 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > >> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 3:51:44 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > >>> If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself. 
> > >> If gravity is everywhere it does not need to act FTL. 
> > >> 
> > >> Mitchell Raemsch 
> > > Gravity is obviously not and cannot be everywhere from any one source due to the inverse square law. 
> > Obviously it is everywhere. Banerjee acquires a point in this and you 
> > have to appreciate how badly I feel having to accept that fact.
> Gravity moves with a source. 
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
Then it is not left behind and is not everywhere.

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#613557

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-06-23 13:43 -0500
Message-ID<kfm7doF5qrvU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#613548
On 6/23/2023 12:47 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 5:25:47 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 5:59:31 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>>> On 6/21/2023 5:54 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 12:02:02 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 3:51:44 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>>> If the speed of gravity was not faster than light, it would not be able to attract anything into itself.
>>>>> If gravity is everywhere it does not need to act FTL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>> Gravity is obviously not and cannot be everywhere from any one source due to the inverse square law.
>>> Obviously it is everywhere. Banerjee acquires a point in this and you
>>> have to appreciate how badly I feel having to accept that fact.
>> Gravity moves with a source.
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> Then it is not left behind and is not everywhere.

Sorry, that makes no sense at all. A single mass, no matters its size,
projects gravity in every direction. Then consider all the mass in the
universe and at every known location and what do you have?

In the first instance you have gravity everywhere. In the second 
instance you have gravity everywhere. No matter where you are you
will experience gravity. To me that means everywhere. If you think
there is an exception someplace, I'm listening. Show me.

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